Join host Pete Pardo of Sea of Tranquility and his special guest Chris Alo as they discuss the career & music of the mighty heavy metal legends, Black Sabbath.
The guy who ran IRS Records was Miles Copeland, Stewart’s brother, who also managed The Police. Otherwise, phenomenal retrospective, guys! I especially liked the fact that you gave Ray Gillen some props and Tony Martin the respect he deserves as a part of Sabbath history. They made some really great metal with Martin, which only gets overlooked because it was called Black Sabbath and didn’t have Ozzy or Dio. Imagine if Headless Cross or Tyr just happened to be four unknown dudes. People would have been poopin’ their kulats!
Love the extended comments on Born Again. Fantastic album, super heavy and badass, and criminally maligned. Was waiting for the typical "here is this clunker of an album" but you guys really get it about Born Again and I salute you. And The Fallen? Woww, as heavy as anything on Born Again. Great song!
Every time Dio put life back into the band, Ozzy finds away to steal the thunder. The Dio stuff will always be my favorite. Heaven and Hell is one of the best albums for both Dio and Sabbath.
'Great 2 part video boys. laughed when reading the sabbath book symptom of the universe when as Gillan sort of squatted down to read the lyrics, someone from the audience said 'Ronnie, Ronnie's back' :) gold
Eternal Idol, Headless Cross, and Tyr are without question the best Sabbath albums post Dio. All absolute classics and Tony Martin's voice rocks big time.
I agree with you big time! I love all three albums big time, especially The Headless Cross. The Headless Cross is one of my all time favorite albums. It is a Masterpiece to me.
I saw Sabbath in 2000 at The Astoria in London, a relatively small venue. When the band kicked into the riff to ‘Sabbath Bloody Sabbath’ I got goosebumps. It was immense. A brilliant show, I’m so pleased I saw them with the classic line up.
Thank you guys, this was fantastic, I've always been a big Sabbath fan but never got interested in much beyond Sabotage. Sabotage and MOR are still my go-to's for any day of the week, and now your incredible enthusiasm and knowledge have really inspired me to explore the entire catalogue.
The albums Born Again all the way up to Cross Purposes are extremely underrated and most Black Sabbath fans don't like them or have not listened to them because Ozzy and Ronnie James Dio are not the lead singers on them accept for Dehumanizer. Albums like The Seventh Star, Born Again, The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, TYR, Dehumanizer, and Cross Purposes are Phenomenal albums. I hope one day really soon that albums like The Headless Cross, TYR, Cross Purposes, and even Forbidden get the deluxe edition treatment like most of the previous albums. I would love to hear unreleased live songs and studio songs on those deluxe editions and to be remastered for a much better sound. This history of Black Sabbath was so amazing to watch. I watched all three parts back to back and really enjoyed it big time. You two have awesome chemistry and you can tell that you guys had a ton of fun doing this too. Thanks again for doing this.
I'm creeping up on 50 years old and grew up on Sabbath. My sisters were both considerably older than me, so I had access to all their records from a very early age. By the time Ozzy was fired, and the Dio era started......I was a big fan and collected all the 80s/90s Sabbath iterations. As well as all the Ozzy years. I have to say, I find myself listening to post Ozzy Sabbath more than anything.
the eternal idol is such a great album,i`m glad there is a deluxe version with Ray & Tony Martin singing,the tony martin era of sabbath is great i feel some of the albums are better than some of the ozzy stuff
I saw them twice in Dehumanizer tour. I bootlegged that gig on cassette... I probably have it somewhere but those gigs are on youtube... My first Sabbath gig was with Tony Martin and I think it was Vinnie on drums... Cross Purpose tour. 13 tour was the last time I saw them... 13 if it was jot produced by Rick Rubin, it would have been a different beast... love that album.
In the UK I believe Born Again was Sabbath's highest chart placing since Sabotage, at number four I think. The mix is bad (and Iommi says that can't find the master tapes in order to remix it) but I loved it when it was released and Ian's vocals are fantastic.
Yeah I agree , the mix was terrible , to much bass sounding. Even the remastered one with the live version along with the studio one isn't any better. But I still love this album , Hotline is one of the sickest song's on the album IMO!
Your history of the born again album cover us a bit off. “The one of the baby was actually the front cover of a 1968 magazine called Mind Alive. I took some black and white photocopies of the image that I overexposed, stuck the horns, nails, fangs into the equation, used the most outrageous colour combination that acid could buy, bastardised a bit of the Olde English typeface and sat back, shook my head and chuckled.”
You guys are great and knowledgeable so glad I found your channel. I never even heard born again and I've been listening to it yes it's very muddy my first impressions of it aren't very good maybe it's a grower.
And on the Cross Purposes tour, there were a few shows in South America where Bill Ward joined Tony and Geezer onstage. It was literally a reunion without Ozzy.
You guys should have spoken about Iommi's solo album from 2000 and the DEP Sessions (1996) and Fused (2005) with Glenn Hughes on vocals, which essentially they were Part 2 and Part 3 of Seventh Star. There was also Geezer's band GZR which released 3 albums.
The Dehumanizer tour from 1992 was imo the heaviest and best Black Sabbath every sounded live (and in the studio). By 2006 through 2009 Dio's voice was a pale shadow of what it had once been (the cracks started in 2005). He had so much power and anger in 1992 during those live shows. He couldn't even come close to duplicating that kind of power, range and energy when they reformed as Heaven and Hell in the late 2000's. Little did we know he was battling with stomach cancer at that time.
Nooo , but I agree Dio's voice was waning by 2007 , don't forget he was in his 60's and battling stomach cancer. So maybe that weakened him to an extent...P.s. The Devil You Know was a good album and Bible Black is a classic Sabbath song!!
I absolutely love Born Again....saw them on tour in New Haven CT.....they played Rock and Roll Doctor.....Dehumanizer is awesome...the Tony Martin era for me unfortunately sounded a lot like commercial metal...there are 4 Tony Martin tracks that are absolutely killer...the title track Eternal Idol and Lost Forever.....and from Cross purposes Virtual Death and Evil Eye....these tracks are at the top of the heap....maintaining that evil doom laden Sabbath sound....lyrics and vocals as well.....
I'm familiar with all the albums up to 7th Star and I agree with most of the reviews except 7th Star and Never Say Die cause Never Say Die is such an interesting albums with great songs, weird atmospherics and lots of experimentation, so different from any other album and has a lot of feel, some people have said is like a prog album.. on the other hand 7th star let's get real it's standard 80's hard rock done with great musicians but no feel or amazing songwriting. Watching this video made me wanna listen to the rest of the albums, so thanks guys
Another thing from the Dehumanizer demo period was that one of the tracks rehearsed but not released became the basis of "Raising Hell" off Tony Martin's Scream album. Cozy gave Tony the drum tracks. Before Vinny joined again, and after Cozy's injury, Ronnie wanted Simon Wright as drummer, as he'd enjoyed working with him in Dio. Geezer and Tony vetoed this, so Vinny came back.
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All dio times here at home - Heaven and hell 1980 - Mob Rules 1981 - Dehumanised 1992 (most hard periode) - HEAVEN & HELL THE DEVIL YOU KNOW 2009
You guys forgot to mention that TV Crimes off of Dehumanizer was on the Wayne's World soundtrack, but it was a different version. Also, that 3 disc bootleg Chris brought up has a few songs with Dio on vocals that were not released on the album, but were amazing.
I saw the Heaven and Hell version of Sabbath in August of 2009 at Merriweather Post Pavilion in Maryland, Megadeth and Machine Head opened. They were both great, Dave Mustaine reminded me of Satan (the acid probably had something to do with it smh). Sadly, it was the next to last concert of the tour, and Ronnie really struggled from the opening song (Sign of the Southern Cross)to get his voice out, I could tell he wasn't well 😥 On an upbeat note, I saw RJD on tour with Motorhead and Iron Maiden in 2005 I believe, and Ronnie was on fire. Motorhead sounded just as I had imagined, loud and distorted LOL Dio played next, then Iron Maiden. The first half of Maidens set was great, but the three yard cups of beer I drank kicked in arpund then, and the rest of their set was kind of a blur the next morning, has been ever since. Smh
I am honestly quite sick of all the "this is bad"-talk because of changes in a band and not about the actual music. Talking about 13 Black Sabbath had so many different line ups it was almost silly. Yes, they should have had Bill Ward on 13 but that is not the case. I can't say that I love the production sound on it. It is not their best "sounding" album but it has energy and strong songs. If it is the last Black Sabbah album ever it is a good way to go out.
I didn't like 13 much at all and the fact that they screwed over Bill Ward for the tour and album it has put a very stinky taint on their legacy. Bill Ward is not replaceable
1. Dio (but I LOVE the Ozzy era Sabbath too) 2. Ozzy 3. Glenn Hughes (check him out on the DEP Sessions and Fused) 4. Ian Gillan 5. Ray Gillen 6. Tony Martin
jethrodassam You gotta be delusional if you think Ozzy is a better singer than DIO, Gillan or Martin. He has charisma and he is more of a character but the others had the talent
I think the "Eternal Idol" album was a pretty plain and uneventful album. That album along with the "Forbidden" one are my two least favourite Black Sabbath albums. They are the only two Black Sabbath albums I personally rank as two star albums. Every other album of theirs I rank three stars or above. Tony Martin didn't have time to contribute much to the album (writing wise) and had to do a rush job finishing the album off vocally. He and Geoff Nichols discuss this in an in-depth interview that can be found on RU-vid. But Tony Martin did after this make some great contributions to the Black Sabbath catalogue.
You're not a real Black Sabbath fan unless you recognize the entire catalog. Sabbath didn't end with Never Say Die, despite what Sharon Osbourne tells you. In fact, their best stuff came after he left, best as in more musicianship, better vocalists and better production.
Gillian said when he saw the album, he almost puked. But, when he heard it, he did puke. As evil as disturbing the priest sounds, it's just about a priest asked if they could keep the music down cause they were having choir practice
To this day, Tony Iommi says that Glenn Hughes "Was never a member of Black Sabbath" because, in Tony's mind, Seventh Star was not a Sabbath album. Side note: before Glenn Hughes, Jeff Fenholt, Broadway's Jesus Christ in Jesus Christ Superstar, recorded some demos for Seventh Star. After he was fired from the project, Fenholt, now an evangelist, would travel round to churches billing himself as the former lead singer of Black Sabbath.
I love that "Heaven and Hell" album, but I was very lukewarm on "13," as I have been on everything Ozzy has recorded since about 1991. And even those first two Zakk Wylde albums weren't all that great, just above average. IMO, Ozzy hasn't recorded anything that I feel *obligated* to buy since 1983. He doesn't really need to, and his legacy is cemented by the first six Black Sabbath albums plus his first three solo releases, but it still feels disappointing to me.
A pet Sharon Osborne has no right or say about that Tony iomi can or cannot use the name of black Sabbath name from Ronnie James dio they went with heven hell Because they did not want be stuck with the classic black Sabbath songs
Born Again never clicked with me. The album sounds like Tony Iommi joined Deep Purple. Ian Gilligan's voice sounds like an old grandpa, and too much unnecessary screaming in the songs.
I'm sorry but "The Devil You Know" is the slowest and most booooring Black Sabbath album EVER! No where near classics like Heaven and Hell or Mob Rules! Those albums have diversity and excitement. The Devil You Know is great to listen to if you want to fall a sleep
I agree with you that The Headless Cross is the best Tony Martin era album. The Headless Cross is even in my top five favorite Black Sabbath albums ever. I do also really love The Eternal Idol and TYR alot also. The Tony Martin era is extremely underrated big time. I hope to one day see albums like The Headless Cross , TYR, Cross Purposes, and even Forbidden have deluxe editions with unreleased live and studio songs and remastered for much better sound.
The Born Again album is one of the best and most under rated Sabbath albums of all time. Tony's riffs are evil on it and Ian's screams are insane , the album is the perfect fit for the time. We loved it so much we named our band Digital Bitch!🤘 Sabbath rules!!!
Sharon and Ozzy took Tony to court to stop him using the Sabbath name. So wrong of them to do that to Tony, I'm amazed he even spoke to them ever again after that, let alone play and record with Ozzy again. Dio said that he didn't care if they weren't allowed to use the name because it everyone knew they were Black Sabbath. Ozzy should be ashamed of doing that, Dio was so many leagues above him as a singer and musician. Thanks for the video guys, always a pleasure. Cheers from the UK. Ronnie
I'm a little late to the party here but this Retrospective/ History is awesome. In depth facts and a little anecdotal, this made for an entertaining watch. Have you ever considered doing videos about the re-releases from any given band? I ask because you showed several of the 2 disc re-issues and was wondering what the second disc offers. Would you consider talking in depth about the bonus tracks, and different versions on those discs?
I never quite bought the theory that Gillan ruined his voice on the Sabbath tour.....I think it was a combo of Giilan (band), Sabbath and the Purple reunion tour (1984/85). With that being said, he sounded good on the two Deep Purple shows I witnessed in 1987.
I have been a huge Black Sabbath fan for over thirty years, and not until two years ago I only listened to the Ozzy and Dio eras only. I finally two years ago gave the rest of the eras a chance and I regret not doing it a long time ago. I love The Seventh Star, Born Again, The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, and TYR alot. Those albums in my opinion are amazing Black Sabbath albums, especially The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, Born Again, and The Seventh Star. Ian Gilian, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, and especially Tony Martin did an amazing job singing for Black Sabbath. The Headless Cross should have been a huge seller. It does not have one weak song on it. TYR and The Eternal Idol are also very strong albums. I do love Cross Purposes and Dehumanizer alot also. Tony Iommi is definitely by far the most important member of Black Sabbath ever. Most would have given up after being the last original member left, but Tony Iommi kept going forward.
