I know but he is in a movie. Its cool all that but I always saw every dbz movie as canon as well GT. Idc if they feel out of place, I love them all xD Kind of dissapointed we still havent got a movie were Goku meets his father
Cooler would probably be the easiest to make canon, with his first movie being able to easily be placed within the 3-year timeskip pre-android saga with only average-for-dbz levels of continuity errors
I want a cooler movie frieza and cooler teamed up goku and vegeta are about to loose but goku remembers something and remembers broly and teleports to vampa and gets broly to help and cooler has the cool mask form but golden to mask form to match broly and then they realize broly, goku and vegeta are not enough to take on both frieza and cooler so vegeta and goku make gogeta and then gogeta and broly put on the platara ear rings and we get a new type of fusion
I always found it ridiculous how fifth form cooler lost to super Saiyan 1 goku just as easily as final form frieza. He’s supposed to be a whole transformation ahead of frieza, ssj1 should be a breeze
@@madjaster9620 Remember that this is a Goku who spent 1 year training on Yardrat, and is in the middle of training to fight the androids. Yeah Final Form Cooler probably shouldn't have lost as easily, but Goku is way stronger than he was when he fought Final Form Freeza.
@@TheMole2005 Like someone up top said. Super had a very lazy animation process. Both SSJ god and Blue are just recolored versions of SSJ. SSJ evolution ( mastered SSB ) was just a more more navy bluish. Golden Frieza is just a recolored Frieza with minor changes to positioning to his purple gem like attire and a bit more muscle. What i do like is that characters such as Jiren weren't given a transformation after a power up. Just his shirt got ripped and gained more muscle, which was fantastic and didn't way overdo the powerups with form changes.
Smart is sort of subjective when you talk about Dragon Ball villains. If he was really smart he would have just blown the hell out of Earth after he lost Goku.
+bluhmer1990 What did he do that was really smart? By the way, not trying to be an asshole, I just can't remember anything remarkable besides him learning a ton of techniques in the second movie.
Cooler's Revenge was the first DBZ movie I ever owned, back when it came out on VHS. I love Cooler as a villain. He has a more complex reason for attacking Goku and co. He wants revenge, but only because he feels it's necessary, not because he had any love for Freeza or King Cold. Even then, he puts his all into the fights, and doesn't mess around. And don't forget, he swam up a Kaioken Kamehameha like it was a gentle stream.
Think of Cooler's fifth form this way: It's not that he trained his body to unlock more potential, it's that he simply used his race's innate shapeshifting to build a better body. If it helps, think of Frieza and Cooler as being structures made of legos. Frieza used training to harden the plastic until they were like steel, while Cooler rebuilt himself into a stronger structure using the material he already had. No contradiction.
Apple Lysol I dont think Cooler woke up and was like heeeeyyy now Iam so huge and 4 timea stronger than my bro in his 100% Form( If we can trust the powerlevels Cooler Final Form has a powerlevel of 470 Million and 100% Freezer 150 Million or something) So I don't know Golden Freezer powerlevel but I would say its doubled as strong as Final Form Cooler so probably Cooler trained 2 Month when Freezer trained 4. So I would say yes Cooler trained but trained less than Freezer
The DBZ fanbase has become predictable. There are always going to be people trying to make logical sense of things in DBZ, when in reality the actual answer is just that the writers felt like making something so.
Benjamin Blümchen Cooler was actually born with a much lower power level than Frieza. This infuriated Cooler to no end, especially when King Cold liked Frieza and spoiled him. That’s his motivation for training, anger and hatred for Frieza. He trained his entire life to become stronger than his little brother.
Sebastian Amado He treats the manga like the bible, and all the anime filler, movies, and various other specials and games like the f**king false gods, lol.
One thing that always struck me was how Cooler's accent (in the English dubs) was different from Cold's and Frieza's. In my headcanon, he was originally supposed to inherit Cold's throne, but Frieza was born and had more innate power, so he was shoved aside and raised by his mother, thus explaining the difference and also his resentment towards his sibling. This could also imply that Cooler is more willing to do hard work and train in order to gain power, unlike Frieza who seems to be comfortable with the power he was born with.
If cooler ever became canon with a backstory like that then it would basically only work if he had trained like crazy for like 50 years... Otherwise he would never be able to touch his brother.
If I remember correctly Frieza implies that he intentionally made his higher form golden so it would be more distinguishable, maybe Cooler just had different (less gaudy) style
Cooler is my favorite Dragon Ball movie villain. I just always loved his design (especially in fifth form) and personality. Felt like a more low-key but cooler (pun intended) version of his younger brother. Cooler's Revenge was also the movie I saw the most of as a kid, along with Dead Zone- as I had those 2 on VHS. After seeing that movie so many times, he truly became my favorite.
Cooler is my favorite character overall in the DBZ Universe. You don't have to remind me he's non cannon but just overall and I'd actually say Meta-Cooler over Cooler but still. Meta-Cooler learned from his mistakes, was much smarter and kicked both Goku and Vegetas asses. The way he can generate power in seconds, instant transmission and humorous smartallic insults made me like him even more lol. Wish he was cannon, oh well
RomanceHD People throw canon around all the time, lol. Doesnt mean its unofficial. The movieverse is just a different Dragon Ball dimension, or even timeline. Just like GT, or Episode of Bardock.
Cooler literally says in the movie that his brother Frieza had the upper hand until he discovered his fifth form. This obviously implies that he wasnt born with the form but obtained it some other way most likely through training.
Not really. Don’t consider filler and non canon things as facts. It’s been stated that frieza was born in his final form. Non canon movies don’t really exist it’s much more for our entertainment. Nothing will ever make sense in this movies more likely are parallel universe in some way
@@footballfan283 Yes frieza was we know that but were talking about Cooler who wasnt born with his new final form. He discovered the form beyond the one Frieza was born with which implies Cooler didnt always have it and gained it through some other way. We arent here talking about canon Frieza but a what if scenario where Cooler exists and its just fun speculating as fans of DBZ.
Cooler has ways been my favourite character, something about him being the underdog amd perhaps the overlooked family member of the Colds, plus that 5th form looks badass, he certainly needs to be bought into Canon somehow
You skipped over that the U.S. soundtrack to Cooler's Revenge is the single most kickass album ever with some seriously sick songs, the song that kicks in as Goku begins to get overwhelmed, Revelation by American Pearl, is just awe inspiring
+Hussein Alsalami I think he is talking about how Danny hates the word Weeaboo. Because it's simply not the right word to use in the context of him watching and promoting the Japanese source material.
They need to bring back Cooler and give him a gold form but a gold form of his 5th form. Gold Freiza and Gold Cooler vs Goku and Vegeta and Trunks and Gohan and Piccolo.
@@HoaNguyen-bd3th Just looked it up on Google. Cell Saga is 29 episodes. Frieza Saga in DBZ alone is 33 episodes, then Frieza returns in Super playing a big role in Resurrection Of F, Super Broly, and the anime. We've had much less Cell then we've had Frieza or even Buu.
since they have a female broly, they should make it so frost has a new transformation (which would be like coolers second form). that would bring a lot of fans. Just like how they want broly to be cannon, they also want cooler to be cannon as well.
Also no, My 5th form is a Form I created because my 4th form can only handle 50% of my power so my 5th form allows me to handle all of my 100% power, Also because of this I can achieve the golden form in 3 months of training, So I can achieve a "5th" form Golden Form. That answers your question I hope Mr. Geekdom
Cooler is just a great character and concept. Its been believed his 5th form( thank you for not calling it his final form) is paying a nod to the shredder, but in general was a fantastic idea we all hope becomes canon one day!
Have you ever done a History of Bojack and the Galaxy Soldiers from Bojack Unbound? That's actually my favorite DBZ movie, to be perfectly honest. Bojack and the Galaxy Soldiers are just really cool to me, and I actually want them to be incorporated into the canon like Broly. I also wouldn't mind if they made Cooler canon either.
Your In Depth's videos are the best! Once in a while I learn something new from them and I thought I knew almost everything from DBZ. Great job though man. Always drop a like for you
In response to 5:24, here's how I make sense of it. Frieza was always naturally stronger than cooler. As a result, Cooler trainedand eventually reached a level of power that required him to transform in order to maintain this strength. Frieza would later make a similar discovery when training to beat Goku. The difference in appearance is simply a matter of taste. Frieza outright says that he "chose" gold to represent his superiority. Cooler designed his 5th form appearance out of his insecurities. He's taller, has a deeper voice, and hides behind a mask. In short, 5th form Cooler and Golden Frieza are the same transformation with a vastly different look. Frieza's natural talent just exceeds Cooler's by that much.
I'd love to see a King Cold and Cooler interaction. Even though Frieza is technically a only child, I feel like King Cold definitely treats him like the baby!
Cooler's Revenge was the first DBZ movie I ever owned as a kid. And I always thought that Cooler was an awesome character! I honestly wish that he had been made a canon character so he could get some more character development.
I get so hyped when the intro pops up for dragonball in depth. I think it tricks my brain into thinking I'm about to watch and old episode of dragon ball.
Hey geekdom101! Maybe do a video covering the name puns throughout the dragonball universe. Didnt know about the cooler armored squad/condiment puns, and im still trying to figure out the all of the god of destruction liquor puns. ...unless you already have?
Cooler (after making the big glowing death ball): “I have to ask before I throw this did my brother do this?” Goku: “Yeah but his was smaller” Cooler: “KNEW IT HAA!”
Cooler's revenge is the film that got me into dragonball. My uncle was served in us army in the early to mid 2000s, and while in a "liberal" iraqi area he managed to get his hands on just about all of the dbz movie dvds and Brought them home. I watched coolers revenge hundreds of times as a kid.
Coolers fourth form is like an Augmented version of the 100% form. In terms of size, strength and speed, its a drastic change. In terms of power level however, its not all that different from Frieza's 100% form. Now it is possible that his power level could be slightly higher then 100%, but not by a vast margin. In fact I think the purpose of this form was to increase his strength and speed, which I have no doubt that it beats 100% form in those regards. And I do realize that Cooler was beaten way faster then Frieza, however I think it was his own undoing. Although Cooler maybe more mature and intelligent than Frieza, he's far more impatient. He had no intention on dragging out the fight, he prefers to finish things quickly. He just didn't count on Goku repelling his attack back at him, which took him completely by surprise. Honestly though, I think Cooler could have made the fight way longer, maybe even longer than Frieza, you never know.
In the Philippines, both Cooler's Revenge and The Return of Cooler were joined in a single movie entitled, THE GREATEST RIVALS. The title seemed to be close to the first movie of Cooler.
Geekdom I just want to say I respect you greatly for videos like this I tried once just finding the pictures you used was hard and The amount of research that goes in these is unreal I dont even know where you learn half of it I guess kanzenshuu so props to you keep up the great work
The way I understood it, Cooler's fifth form was him using the transformation technique Frieza used to conceal his strenght to force it to a greater height instead. I thought of it as a different branch of transformation, not unlike how Super Saiyan God is attained in a way completely different from Super Saiyan 1-2-3.
I really wish Toriyama would feature Cooler more in the franchise. I find his character more fascinating than Frieza, tbh. We'll see as time wears on. Thanks for your videos. I enjoy them. Keep up the good work.
A genuine theory; what if Frost is Freeza's brother? Not literally, but biologically. Frost looks a lot like Freeza, and like him is Emperor of the Universe. So, what if in Universe 6, King Cold conceived Frost instead of Freeza. And in that universe King Cold wasn't a terrible father, so Frost wasn't a raging douchebag
+John Porteous they are from diffrent universes same race doesnt mean he is from same family why? because fasha and goku arent related but are from sayian race
Basically, its only called Dragon Ball Z in the anime side. In the manga, there is only Dragon Ball. The manga of Dragon Ball is the official story. The anime is an adapation.
coolas revenge was the first DBZ movie me and my family watched in cinema.. i was maybe 4 years old back then.. it was so cool back then, saw the clips today, and the animation and the story is still great.
I didn't learn anything I didn't already know. I was hoping to hear more about his past and most stuff from the movies I've watched multiple times. Great video though. Cooler is my favorite!
