@@jamesgratz4771 with kaldheim there are cheap giants now tho also theres a card called stinkdrinker boggard or something, it reduces giant spells by 2. Pretty major
I can't wait to see the rest of the series. I'd love it if you took a look at some decks of the past that don't have a modern day equivalent as well, but for now I'm really happy to see this! keep it up
I'm 0:01 in and I'm already hating life. So that's appropriate for the subject at hand. Congratulations on 6 years and I can't wait for more videos in this series.
The history of Dredge decks, or Dredge-like decks would be so cool. Manaless Dredge is a deck that I just cannot ever wrap my head around, so it'd be fun to find out more about how it got assembled by better minds within the competitive scene
Ramp is definitely my favorite archetype and would love to see a version of this video about that. Ramp is definitely one of the more diverse archetypes around as well. Eldrazi would cool for a tribe. Anybody who wasn't around during Eldrazi Winter that deck was so stacked im definitely sure it would still be top tier despite how much power Modern has now.
Honestly my favorite part of the top 10s is the little bits of historical context you provide for why the cards made the list so this might actually become my preferred series if you do more, so yes please do more.
Worth noting that Extended and Legacy goblins decks also functioned as pseudo land destruction decks, with 4 Wasteland and 4 Rishadan Port, which could steal games against clunkier decks / manabases. One interesting spin on Goblins was the Legacy version that splashed white for Thalia, Guardian of Thraben. The idea being that quickly flooding the board with goblins, Thalia's taxing and the various land disruption could be enough to keep the opponent off balance or straight up locked out entirely, while your board of goblins ran them over. It was a bit of a flash in the pan though, although it did score some decent finishes at SCG events back in 2013 (I think). In terms of ideas for other decks, one could be blue-white control. Starting with The Deck and also covering Caw-Blade, Delver (this is more aggro-control, but still), Sphinx's Rev, Flash and finally Teferi, HoD. I'm sure there are others, but there's a lot just in the last 10 years.
Loving the new series! Having a history of of deck archetypes further adds insight to the original Top Ten series. Would love to see deck archetypes that are not usually seen in standard or historic. Maybe Maverick, Rock, and Lands decks.
Great idea! I think you should focus on archetypes more! Maybe like a "lantern control's evolution" or "turbo fog evolution" type thing. It's interesting to see how archetypes evolve and change with the times!
Have you considered covering things like combo decks or graveyard decks as big overall archetypes or maybe specific combos and specific kinds of graveyard decks like threshold, reanimator, dredge, etc?
I'm obviously biased but the history of Death's Shadow is an interesting one. Great video! Would love to also see: Eldrazi, Dredge, Tron, Zombies, Vampires, Humans, Rebels, Spirits, Burn and even Control. This is a great idea!
This is a great idea to create its own series about. Having played Goblins throughout the years and seeing were I dropped off at should be interesting, if my current build is even on the list. Which should say something that even not watching more than the introduction, am hyping this video and would love to see more when like Drew Armstrong, the Glorious Lobster Emperor put it, that means more Nizzahon videos, which is a Win/Win however you look at it.
Yes, please do many many more. I have never played in the competitive scene and started playing back in 2017, so this stuff and the top 10's always fascinates me and introduces me to cards I am sometimes unfamiliar with, as well as teaches me a lot about the game I never knew about because I wasn't around then.
Make it one more comment that's totally stoked for this series. Started playing way back in revised, with big gaps away from the game, so I adore this sort of history of the game. Whatever you find interesting, keep it coming, I'll watch all of em.
This is exactly what I was talking about! A few months ago I commented on talking about decks in Magic’s history as a whole like the history of the B&R. I’m so grateful to see this content!
This series' idea is so good that, when it popped up in my notifications I thought it was a follow-up to an older video, and not a brand new series. This format fits quite well into the purposes of this channel, and makes a powerful contribution to the informative aspect of the MTG Top 10s. I hope to see more, especially with my favorites tribes (wizards, hydras, soldiers and giants)
Great video. I like this new series, there is so much topics to cover along with tribal based decks too (affinity, D+T, the rock, etc) as they evolve thru the years. Hope this is the first of many.
Love the idea. Would like to see necropotence and fires of yavimaya next. Would also like to ask - I like to see what cards are part of the deck, could you rotate more the specific cards on the video? - What are the win condition on these decks, like... what are the 2 or 3 cards one has to draw to swing a win? - Onde created, what happened to the deck after the next rotation of sets? Did it migrated do other category? New cards got in? Which ones? - Does the deck exists today? Does it have a spiritual sucessor?
I really like this idea for a series. One thing I like to do from time to time for a little blast from the past is get on xmage and play old decks that won high level tournaments in standard throughout the years. So hearing about them in this context is definitely enjoyable for me.
I had a casual izzet goblin deck way back when that focused on pinging everything to death. Was such a fun deck. Intruder alarm, quicksilver dagger, pemmin's aura, sigil of sleep, razorfin Hunter were some of the blue I splashed. Of course, being a casual deck it exploited recruiter and lackey, naturally.
Answering your question, I totally enjoyed it! As a casual player, this video brought me a lot of interesting information about one of my favorite decks.
Really enjoyed this and looking forward to more. I'd be interested in seeing a somewhat deeper discussion of the decks -- how they fared in their meta at the time, more focus on each card in the deck rather than just the key ones. There's a similar kind of brevity here as with your top 10s but this series seems like a opportunity to take a slightly different approach perhaps. One of the things I sometimes wonder about in the top 10s in the relevance of the "lesser" cards in the decks and I'd be into that kind of analysis here.
This is a very interesting idea for a series, I look forward to more of it! I’d love to see more tribes covered (slivers, elves, merfolk, Fae, etc.). I’d say vampires but I’m not certain the deck has much history to cover just yet (though I could be wrong.). I’d also love to see a history of some deck archetypes. I was thinking Reanimator may be interesting?
Excellent! I love Goblin Tribal, so this was a big hit for me. I’d love to see more tribal decks (merfolk, rogues, slivers, etc.). A history of colorless decks would also be super interesting.
Yay! Some love for my little green men! I won my first local tourney in 95 or 96 with them (back then Goblin Shrine was awesome and no one ever used it!).
comment before watching this video: i played "goblins" with raging goblin, mogg fanatic, goblin war buggy in a rdw deck.. ball lightning as a finisher, goblin grenades for damage and ofcourse the usual burn package with lightning bolts... but that was when damage was still going on the stack to make more use out of the mogg fanatics.. gonna love this serie, same as i enjoyed your history of the b/r list.
I am very excited for this series as I care even more for how the cards in MTG work together rather than just individual snapshots into one cards history
This is a great idea and I love watching anything that has to do woth the rich history of magic the gathering. You have so many cool decks to talk about. You can even look at overall arch types such as White Weenie, Sligh/mono red Aggro, Red Deck Wins ect.... UW control, GB The Rock, UB control, GR Ponza, Humans, ect!!!
Great video, great idea for a series. The friends that got me into magic were legacy players so i jumped from kitchen table draft common elves to legacy goblins and was like "what the deck is this power level?"
Absolutely love this style of video. One of the hardest things about getting into magic for me was learning the jargon; especially deck names! I look forward to seeing videos about decks with interesting names like "Cheerios" or "8rack". Thanks!
More of these please! Something you will start to note in these videos is how much Onslaught changed Magic; before, sure, there were tribal payoffs, but Onslaught really kicked the concept of tribal decks into high gear. Nobody was running zombies until Onslaught, and then, it was like we couldn't get rid of them! I really like the lesser tribes, the ones that never quite made it, but I'm sure there isn't a lot of room in this series for Vedalken or Minotaurs. Dwarf Tribal was lackluster in Fallen Empires and only recently became viable. My vote for the next video is Spirit tribal, which I think only started with Kamigawa block.
That's the content I was excpeting for. In fact, I'm usually to do my own research in this matter, since it's not that easy to find videos or even articles talking about it. Thanks for bringing it up in a organized way! I'm looking forward to seeing more of this. Please talk about old archetypes that evolved or simply vanished from competitive scene, like "The Rock", "Legacy Fish", "white-weenie"...
Excellent, this is exactly the content I was always hoping you would decide to make. Your top 10s pack in a lot of context for the format, but always leave me wishing for deeper dives on the decks you talk about. I can't wait to see a Storm episode in this series!
Okay, I really love that combo goblin became a thing. Combo red/black has always been one of my favorite playstyles, and goblins my favorite tribe. :D May need to give that a shot some time.
Most of the ones I can think of were based around specific metas or cards, like Landstill and Skred Red and Stasis decks. Some weird ones I never really understood, like KBBK and Zoo. Otherwise combo decks like Goblin Charbelcher, different Tendrils of Agony decks like Sensei Sensei and Iggy Pop, and of course the dumb reanimator decks.
Was there ever a doubt we would want more of this? Your content is top notch Nizzahon, I always look forward to seeing you in my notifs and the idea that I will get even more variety content from you is a delight! Please keep it up, stay well, and I hope this comment caught you on a good day sir~
That's a lovely format! I was expecting mentioning Krenko (Mob Boss at least, for its massive token spawn ability), Goblin Wizard (which is an Eather Vial but better) and the one I love the most because ti creates a funny infinite combo: Lightning Crafter. I loved the black combo which drains the opponent, its way sneaky!
loved the video. It's great to see the history of these decks. My cousin's goblin deck is what got me into magic way back around onslaught. hopefully we'll get another set with goblin support after all the elves recently.
I remember the 7th edition goblin deck. Started playing around scourge and was my favorite deck especially since it was mono color, fast and easy to use
A goblin deck was my first deck I made as I started playing during onslaught.. I still have my deck. It was basically raging goblins, lightning bolts, goblin kings, and reckless charges
I LOVE THIS KIND OF VIDEO. I’m not keen on most deck archetypes but I love artifacts and would love to see one of the artifact centric types get a video
I really enjoy this episode. Especially because goblins. True, we so have some history lesson with the "top 10", but a more focused episode about something is welcomed.
I am hyped for this series as "Tribal Wars" is what my FNM group plays a ton! I can't wait for Zombies as the Zombie Lord was the first black "Lord" card as well as the other original tribals and their "Lords", blue with Merfolk etc. I also would love to see more obscure tribes eventually. I've been running a janky Minotaur deck and upgrading it since original Theros, so the lesser known and played of the lesser know and played tribes are my favorite.
I have a bunch of the older goblins but I started my goblin deck during Lorwyn and it focuses on the enchantment goblin shenanigans. As for the next deck to talk about, since you did goblins, throw the elves a bone.
This series is so good! I love reading about old decks. Some deck ideas: Astral Slide, Tog, Fires, Turbo Xerox (and it's evolution to modern day delver).
This series is the perfect next level for someone who's watched all of your top 10s an average of 1.5 times 13/10 good idea for series keep going pleade
I love the video, and I think this series is a great idea for you. Not only does it fit neatly into the kinds of videos you make, I think the addition of a coherent narrative of "these cards came out and made the deck viable in X format, but it also brought back these other older cards, etc." does a lot for the format. I think this is a great idea for you, as someone interested in history, and I'm stoked to see what else you choose to cover in it! Personally, I think Burn, Storm, and everyone's favorite Tron should come up at some point
quite the fun series I'd say :) as someone who never played competitive mtg, it's really interesting to see a whole other side to the game and how it works!
Love the new format! And you're highlighting my favorite tribe! Muxus is such a powerhouse in historic (doesn't even need to have attacking goblins to get big) makes me wonder if he could catch the ban hammer
Thanks. Nice view of the history of MTG. Dragons are a theme of the upcoming forgotten realms set. Vampires or zombies for the upcoming Innistrad sets. It will be interesting to see if history repeats and what upgrades to the classic themes will come.
This is awesome. I'd love to see more about Cawblade decks. I haven't followed Magic since Shards of Alara (until I found your channel) so I'd love to catch up on what I missed. I have heard you reference it in a few videos, and it sounds like a nasty deck
I also started played during the onslaught and stopped around timespiral. Playing on mtga to learn about the new stuff and i still have fun playing the goblins!
Nice video! This new series will certainly be a success! As a long term goblin fan, I was expecting to see 8-whack in this video, as well as other honorable mentions like Krenko Mob Boss and Mogg Fanatic. Thanks for sharing!
I learned a lot in this video and I really encourage you to continue. I often hear you talk about dominant decks in your top 10 videos, but I never know what they are or what powers them.
3:15 while I understand the focus is on goblins one of the most important factors of this decks success was tangle wire which is amazing in any deck that can accelerate under 3 mana.
It'd be really cool to hear about Mono Black Control. From the early days with Necropotence to the Torment-era Cabal Coffers/Phyrexian Arena meta, the RTR Underworld connections one and so on.
Love the new series! You talk a lot about the history of blocks and sets in your “top 10” videos. I’d love to see you theme videos around block history in addition to deck history. I.e. what was WOTC goal for the block, what went into development, what actually transpired after print, how did the block affect the previous or next block, dominant deck types vs predicted deck types, etc.