The History Of The Piston Honda 1 World Record 

I get like 1 30 r1 don't be diminished

It took you over 44 minutes to beat Piston Honda?

@@LoverBoy-im7xv no 44 second

Just wait until he gets to Don 2, Soda, and Macho.

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Yeah

Idk man Honda 2s pretty tough.

@@wontontavious Both are, I just think 1 is harder.

@@rockettbennett eh idk I'm kinda torn on which ones the hardest. 1 is one of the worst fights in the game when it comes to luck but 2 is one of the hardest fights in the game when it comes to execution.

@@wontontavious Well failing just because you got unlucky is significantly more aggravating.

Back in the day, everyone named the strategies and they had awesome names. Shame we dont do that anymore lol.

@@Papamanual Yeah now we just name strats/skips after either runners themselves or stuff in the game.

As far as I know, what Adelikat and sinister worked out was at least on par with Turks strat, so they claimed they had cracked it - although the odds were tremendously bad... The thing with Honda 1 is there is so much randomness and small variations, that many strategies could achieve similar times. The exact strategy they claimed was the one Turk used has since been lost to time - and I've spoken to Turk and he also doesnt remember. If the strat had a guard manipulated max damage uppercut, im sure they would remember such a thing.

​@@Papamanual Thanks for the response. I agree that they probably would have remembered anything like guard manipulation, especially since you describe it as being new at that point.

@@gmofftarki Well just regular guard manip has been a thing for a long time. Just tapping up to land a gut punch was not new. Guard manipulated max damage uppercuts is what McHazard discovered (and thats when that sort of knowledge of such things became public)

So, there is no editing done. Its all one single movie file that gets played back. Think of it like my TAS sheet (where I put all of the button inputs) is like a long essay with no spelling errors. RNG is manipulated through my own inputs so i have to make sure my 'essay' is perfect. Lets say my essay for an ideal run was: "The quick brown fox jumped over the grey fence" if i go and change the "x" in fox to a "g" - then what happens to my essay is this... "The quick brown fogpoklsadjnfkjl;nwasdl;j;k;fn" it messes up everything from that point. And that is literally the only thing I changed. If I go back and change that one input, then everything is restored. So as Im constructing the TAS. I go through step by step to make sure everything is the way I want from the very start of the game. Hope this helped.

@@Papamanual Thank you Pap, that was very helpfull ❤

Yeah because you can’t kill him until 42.00 or later

I believe the ones ive made have been put here mtpo-speedrunning.fandom.com/wiki/MTPO_Speedrunning_Wiki Keep in mind ive spotted a few minor errors and they have not been updated quite yet lol

I never mentioned that Nolan came up with the 24 second phase 1 - only that he was first to hit it along with the rest of the strategy. If you want to claim that you invented the phase 1 which Nolan used, you would be wrong. The "Triple face punch" wasn't your invention, it was knowledge from Phil & G's TAS way back in 2004. The second I came up with the phase 1 I used, I knew triple face punch was possible and I knew it would save a chunk of time. I am NOT saying I came up with the 24 second phase 1. Subbing out the Triple Right Gutters for Triple Face Punches was so obviously a time save to me, I concluded that it was extremely obvious to any good/knowledgeable MTPO runner, saying it is a "new" strategy is laughable - its a small variation at best. I know you have created small variations of other strategies such as changing a max damage star punch into a reverse max damage star punch - but that doesnt even save time, or change anything structurally about the strat, its a preference of how you want to perform the strat. You and I have very different standards on what constitutes a new strategy.

Hiding strats was far more common back then. He did share almost everything else, so its at least a little understandable.