The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug - Fighting the Darkness Scene (5/10) | Movieclips 

U havent seen the other wizards soloing hav u... haha

@@anoobiscooking1193 Saruman.

@@soybasedjeremy3653 yupz

He was getting in practice for the Fellowship of the Ring when he left the party while they were in Moria to solo the boss and get all of the xp to level up to white.

The Blue Wizards likely died on such a quest

Not to mention the light is perfectly shaped while the dark has no shape at all.

@@smangy5442 Yes you do

Eh...not exactly true. Sauron didn’t “scare the crap out of him” necessarily at all. He felt himself much weaker than Sauron, sure. but mostly just humbly felt simply far un-worthy of such a task.

@@antielric482 I think what he said was that Gandalf was the only one in Middle-Earth who had the capacity to truly wrest the Ring from Sauron's control forever and become its new master. Which would, however, eventually turn him into a benevolent tyrant.

@@masamune2984 Yeah, but I seem to remember it was exactly Gandalfs fear of Sauron that made him not want to go. But Manve told him that is why he needed to go, to overcome that fear.

Just to clarify: Gandalf WAS afraid. Just not in the way the OP originally made it out to be (no offense to the OP whatsoever...it was a great comment). That’s why he was so amazing and humble. 🙂

He's the "unseen presence". We see him only for few minutes, yet his influence and threat are felt 80% of the franchise.

Melkor: I'm I joke to you?

@@azagorod8479 Well in the First Age he always shows up, but the Elves and Men are scared of Sauron's presence. When Sauron attacked Minas Tirith(watchtower of Finrod) The elves quickly retreated to Nargothrond. So Sauron was so dreadful in presence.

@@azagorod8479 dude you need to read the books man melkor literaly was defeated like 11 thousand years before this movie he was banished into the infinite void never to return again NEVER.

Kinda wish that the Balrog had had a similar visual presence. A dark shadow surrounded by demonic fire + whip + dark blade. This sauron feat is perfect

Plus he is one of the very very rare type of villains of "serous pure evil". There are no jokes at his expenses, he has no funny moments and so on. Sauron is almost in every scene he is potrayed as an intimidating force.

@@pyktukasplays4945 do you know any 10 movies that have six limbed dragons (two wings four legs) in them with a quite a lot of screentime? and that they are not cartoons, hard to find movies like that because most of the movies have wyverns instead of dragons

@@toxicdino8676 @EpicDino867 those are dragon's, but you meant to write what D&D calls wyverns. Mythological wyverns were snake-dragons. Not everything is "Dungeons and Dragons", please understand that. So most movies use dragon's, just the type of dragon that D&D calls "wyverns". Yes, there are movies that use traditional western dragon's with four legs and two wings: Eragon (2006) Dungeons and Dragons (movies) Dragonheart (movie series, so this should be enough)

If you thought Sauron was pure evil, then hoo boy you are not prepared for his boss, Morgoth.

​@@gevans446Tell me about it. Morgoth at his weakest could be compared to Sauron at his strongest.

Very bold of him indeed

Michael Weinstein sauron was far more powerful than Gandalf so there wasn’t much risk

@@MrDuck797 never watched LOTR? Balrog vs Gandalf remember

Good joke. Did not get it till someone mentioned the balrog.

@@MrDuck797 The point is it's a joke. You don't need to take it seriously.

I agree. His power was always to settle.

@@Nepthu He's not allowed to use his power to it's full capability, just like the other Istari. They are merely supposed to aid the lifeforms of middle earth.

Yeah I like seeing magic in these movies

@@glennlittle6356 thats what i noticed too. It's like as long as there is a way, he will not use his power. Plus he is definitely a combat mage.

Glenn Little Why that ?

BigGeek2256 this...puts a smile on my face. Sauron would beat thanos because he would always come back.

@@BlackDiamond2718 Thanos is easy money for him, sorry Mcu fans

@@boriskostic6964 but sauron brings balance by continuing the fight against good. Balancing both ideals.

@@BlackDiamond2718 Yes Orks killing and destroying everything really brings balance. Pol Pot really achieved balance in Cambodia.

@@michaellaidler7143 life versus death dude

Calvin Kinz that’s an amazing insight

Day versus night. Magento versus doctor strange. Holmes versus holmes.

It’s fitting because Sauron craves for order, as his Master Morgoth, the former Valar and first Dark Lord, craves ruin and destruction, Sauron is driven by order, admiring the Elves most of all. His original plan was to bring unity to Middle Earth through the Rings of Power, as they originally intend to control the leaders of each race, allowing Sauron to rule through them But the Elves foresaw the treachery and took off their Rings, the Dwarves the most resilient of the races, resisted his control but became greedy, most of the Dwarf Rings were lost or destroyed Only the 9 rings of men were successful, creating the Nazgul To Sauron the Orcs, Darkness, were all means to an end to achieve Order under his control

Also a sphere has the most volume per surface area so it’s technically the most stable too

@@christophersanchez7731 Even then Orcs are corrupted elves.

That litteraly demonic fire. It doesn't count

@@maddriim still light

Galadriel the lady of light appears ..

Matthew 11:15 KJV He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. Are you saved? Where will you go when you die? Heaven or hell? The Gospel, which means the Good News is the news that God Almighty, the Creator came in the flesh as Jesus Christ to take away the sin of the world. The one God is a trinity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son came and laid down his own life to save ours. His sacrifice on the cross paid the price for our redemption with his own blood. On the third day he rose from dead and offers the gift of salvation and forgiveness to those that repent and trust in him. Although God's creation was created perfect, having no death, sickness and disease, the creation became corrupted through Adam and Eve in them disobeying God. In this rebellion the creation became fallen through the curse of sin and mankind became separated from God. This world is fallen, but God offers reconciliation to him through his provision at the cross. Ultimately God will restore his creation to perfection when he returns but those that who reject his offer of redemption will remain condemned by their sins and go to hell. John 1:1,14 KJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. [14] And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, 1 John 3:8 KJV He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Isaiah 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and THE WORLD KNEW HIM NOT.

@@jesusisgod2953 god is man made stupid.

And don't forget the new eye design.

Excellent analysis

This is too poetic for a RU-vid comment.

A ancient horror unlike anything seen... 😏

Some like master yoda finding a resurrected darth nihilus

I always thought it was a clever touch to make Sauron’s silhouette be the pupil.

this part stuck with me. It is such a gorgeous and masterful shot

I actually want to see an alternate reality of LoTR where Sauron actually gets the One Ring in his hands and what kind of power would be released. If this scene shows a weakened version of Sauron, then I can only imagine how powerful he would be with the ring.

Yet he was almost killed by a hound of Oromë

He held more power because his powers were not diminished. In the book commentaries to the Lord of the Rings, Istari (magi, mages) are the Maiar, who took the flesh of humans as their form to diminish their own power and thus to avoid the battle of Powers and the second destruction of Arda. Therefore one Maya in human form could not overcome a dark Maya (be it Balrog or Sauron). Gandalf managed to fight off and destroy Balrog but died in the process. In 1vs1 battle with Sauron spirit Gandalf also lost.

@@darkner2390 None of you fools read the books then. Gandalf and his council are NOT allowed to utilize their full strengths. They are only supposed to be a guiding force for the lifeforms of Middle Earth. The Istari were at max allowed to use MAYBE 30% of their capability. Galadriel herself was said to be strong enough to defend against Sauron. After the Hobbit events, she straight up went to Dol Guldur, and ripped it apart rock by rock using her power.

@@Raiseflag_Surrender Okay its good to see that you actually understand the meaning behind the Istari being limited by their purpose.

zs23100 I know, the best one

I know, right? When I heard it again, I had chills!

epic

So it begins. The great battle of our time.

No it's not the same one. You mean the same motif. Howard Shore is known to 'reuse' the same motifs in creating the music of TLOTR to evoke familiarity in reference to certain themes. In a way yes it is the same. But more like a different piece that works around the same motif.

And then Saurons theme kicks in in one of the most epic villian reveals of all time

@@thebaron2277 Once his theme kicked in, it was over.

SenMysrana fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your master

It actually means "The Abominable/Abhorred" and is intended as a mockery of his true name Mairon ("The Admirable"). He is also called Gorthaur, which is translatable as "Dread Abomination".

@@ratelvora8014 Olorin was called me in days of my .... don' rememberits over 25 years when i read sil

@@ratelvora8014 Huh, I always thought Gorthaur meant "cruel", that's why he was called "The Cruel".

@@writer7997 Nope, Gorthaur means "Dread Abomination", but he was called Gorthaur the Cruel by the Sindar elves. The Sindar gave him the Cruel as an epithet, so it would make no sense, if that was already the meaning of the name.

Yeah same haha, Inoukianaln, burzum nul naldjidar.

I liked the old voice better. Cumberbatch's voice for Sauron is too high pitched. Maybe it would have been better if PJ decided to use Cumberbatch's "Smaug" voice for Sauron.

It would have been sick, but I think calling him “wizard” despite knowing Gandalf’s true identity as a Maia was a way to mock and belittle Gandalf, both for hiding in a limited form pretending to be a mortal ‘wizard’, and for being less powerful than he.

"I was the Olorin of my youth in the forgotten west"

He should have called him some random name like ”Klampfendorf!” Just to waste some of Gandalf's brain cycles trying to figure out what the heck is going on.

Agreed

Would have been neat, probably not possible due to them not having rights to the silmarilion thoug. Much like how Gandalf says he forgot the 2 blue wizards names.

Morgoth literally raised the Thangorodrim volcanoes and shaped the surface of the earth. He would be magnificent to see indeed

That was never Gandolf's motivation for what he did.

@@tigqc, I never meant to state anything about Gandalf's intentions, but since you brought it up: Gandalf could have continued his attempt at fleeing, but instead he chose to defy the darkness. Note that towards the end of the duel, he walked towards a collapsed bridge, and not away to relative safety (and yes, I am assuming this was not the only way out). In that moment of defiance, what was Gandalf trying to accomplish except maintaining the conflict? He may have not known at that moment that he was facing Sauron, but he was still opposing a dark spirit that had clearly claimed this area as a domain.

Gandalf as a Maia spirit was always a little afraid of Sauron and never certain he could match him. The Ring once he made it gave him a boost. But Galadrial taps into dark magic that Gandalf will not and gave Sauron a but kicking in the next movie

EdricLysharae I think Gandalf’s motivation was to discover who the Necromancer was and to ultimately expose him. Ever since the earlier discovery of the Morgul blade, he had a sneaking suspicion that it was indeed Sauron residing at Dol Guldur but he wanted to be absolutely sure. He knew he was walking into a trap but the guaranteed abduction that was sure to take place would summon more powerful beings who could ultimately go toe-to-toe with Sauron once he was exposed. The wizard turned himself into a “sacrificial lamb”...as he knew no one else had the time, will, or interest to investigate. His choice to remain inside of the fortress after confronting Azog (while reckless on the surface) was brilliant as he forced Sauron’s hand. He could have continued fleeing with the minimal information he had acquired from the Pale Orc...but hearsay wouldn’t be enough to sway Elrond and Saruman as after all...Orcs were known to take over abandoned fortresses for their own nefarious needs and as such...they would not be any real threat without a powerful leader to organize them. He would need to hear it straight from the horse’s mouth and thus; Gandalf had to find the source of the evil as well as be 100% certain that it was indeed the Servant of Morgoth. That took some serious guts if you think about it as he knew the result of the coming face off would be be capture, torture, and eventually death. Just my thoughts. God bless!

Gandalf went armed with a device of Saruman's making and simply drove Sauron out.

I never even noticed it takes the shape of an arm…

Damn that’s cool

Yes... but can we take a moment to appreciate that it got disintegrated this time instead of the staff breaking apart like Legos. Much better effect.

He didn't break the one he had in Lord of the Rings it just fell into the darkness beneath Cazad Dum

Peter Jackson broke Gandalf's staffs. Canon Gandalf broke his staff only once.

LightgreenLP but its gone now, even if it was found by dwarfs they would think of it as a broken trunk of wood

One was taken by Saruman in orthanc.

The detail on this one

That went from 1 to 100 real quick

in reverse, now anytime someone mentions the minas morgul theme, mine will invariably go soft

You know movie theaters are businesses, too, and concessions are a significant portion of their income. You wouldn’t pack a Pepsi in your bag and break it out at a restaurant. They respectfully ask for no outside food or drink be brought in. Come on, Michael.

@@gavelston3943 I don't care about buisness. I just care about having a good time

I personally love it and I see this film as the best of the 3 not to mention it being an equal if not better than the first two LOTR films. I think maybe the 3rd film strayed too far from Bilbo's story but it was still epic

Gandalf is actually a demigod/lesser angel (whatever denomination best suit your style) and thus cannot be killed. Even tasked with guidance for middle earth with very diminished power, his mortal shell is a vessel. Once destroyed he'll come back to continue his task. Sauron knows this and would rather have him forever stay a prisoner to render him useless.

@@Furyel2 It's not a given that he would come back, because his spirit would go back to the undying lands. the valar would need to send him back again

Darth memeboi it’s morally wrong to say it is equal/better than the first 2 LOTR

@@Furyel2 bro gandalf can be killed the only reason he came back is because no wizard can ever die and just die without doing what they're supposed to do and what they're supposed to do is destroying all evil but it does not mean they're like super powerful it just means its annoying to fight one since you know you cannot truly win.

That's correct that is indeed saurons arm doing that he dose have that power

I really don't like that about the movies. Staffs are breaking left and right. In the books only once did a staff break and that was Saruman's staff at the command of Gandalf the white.

@@baledain Hear hear, the idea of staffs breaking so willy-nilly annoys me too, it's the badge of office of the Istari, not easily broken. to say the least.

@Erin B There's alot of thing that don't make sense in movie. But i still enjoy them :P

He didn't escape the Maia who lend the assault on Morgoth, told him to ask forgiveness and repent to the valar in valinor, but Sauron was to ashamed and stayed in middle-earth... Then as time past he became evil again, I think because the corruption of Melkor in Arda never vanished.

Except this never happened in the books. Gandalf wasn't captured or defeated by Sauron in a weakened state and when the White Council comes to Dol Guldur, Sauron simply flees.

Idk but I think it was pretty obvious that the necromancer was Sauron.

Silver Wolf i don’t know if it’s a good idea... we like him because he’s mysterious. will he still be fascinating if we learn too much about him?

I hope so to

The Amazon show is going to set in the Second Age so we'll probably see plenty of him then

SAURON NEEDS MORE SCREEN TIME!!!

@Wilfri Castillo but not as badass

Underrated comment

Gandalf: "well crap on a-"

It's basically a magical spell that allows Sauron to see what he wants and keep a tab on things. Kind of like the palantir used by Saruman and Denethor.

@@tehdipstick In the books the "Eye of Sauron" is a metaphor for his intelligence network of birds, beasts, and informants (both willing and unwilling). IE: The men asking Pippins about Baggins at The Prancing Pony were just normal men promised simple coin rewards from sauron's servants for intel about anyone named Baggins. Those men would be part of the "eye."

That's why I think this was the best of the 3

They did more then just adapt the Hobbit they included elements from the LOTR Appendicies, History of Middle-Earth, Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales

@@namast3260 i agree this movie was easily the best one

snakes3425. Like whaat Elements exactly are Youu talking about/referring to ?? Please tell ? I do wanna know !

@@RaisedxFist The whole Galguldor and Necromancer scenes come from the LOTR Appendexs and Unfinished Tales

He's on screen why wouldnt it play? It's not a good choice it's an obvious choice

Yesssssss

How crazy is it that Gollum actually saw Sauron himself and lived to tell the tale?

@@halagaafar9448 for sure friend, but that is what gollum said in the book, maybe see gollum for sauron is special because after his return he didn't know that the one ring still existed (Sauron thought that the One Ring was destroyed in the war of the last alliance, according gandalf in the Elrond Council), and because of this he himself go take some information for gollum

@@gustavorocha1967 it's still interesting how though Sauron was cruel, he also did not kill blindly. His intelligence made him all the more dangerous.

@@halagaafar9448 of course, you see this in Silmarillion, even when sauron was killing or torturing he makes it with some cunning and thinking ahead

This is hobbit not lotr but in case I agree. 😅

@@eliaskurzfilme8319 same universe, you know what he meant.

@@alexanderm.635 Yes i know what he meant. And what is your problem now?

Sauron wasnt even mention in the book of The Hobbit

@@primordialone6523 The Necromancer is Sauron, which the necromancer is mentioned. And in later books Gandalf goes to the White Council to seek help in confirming if it's Sauron.

Funnily enough people play the games (shadow of -) for sauron too

that’s sad

@@RZ_2K usually yeah

I mean they weren't wrong to do so. Look how Saruman ended.

@@halagaafar9448 and remember Morgoth raised Thangorodrim when he was already greatly diminished, and already stuck in his physical form. In his prime he was no match even for all the Valar together

It's because sauron is stronger and more powerful than barlog

IIIII SHALL NOT!! Radagast: Spy on tom bombadil's tea-time discussions with the decaying spirit of ungoliant while dipping morgoth's lost silmarions in his smaug-vape and nomming them like milk and cookies? With the void as tea?! ADMIT IT SNEAKY TOMBOMBADILSTALKER! Sauron: *sneezes*

This is dispel magic. Thats kinda how you deal in magical areas.

"Are there any girls there?"

Sorry shield spell.

Summoner!?!

We can do it!

I was fully sober but it was so dizzying and mesmerising to see Sauron displayed like this. Could not help but keep staring and was in awe and terror at the whole thing.

i fell asleep

gandalf has an unkown hatred for all things bridge like

Dont forget the golden gate bridge...gandalf destroys bridges to prevent crossing and Magneto destroys them to cross himself.

@@BlackDiamond2718 *takes glasses off* dear god

Morgoth was indeed more powerful, but he diluted his power to his servants. His monster armies was far more powerful Than Sauron’s. Smaug was an arguable remant of that army and he was nearly invulnerable Morgoth was also more of a brute as his goal was basically to corrupt and ruin creation to spite Eru Illuvatar, his blazen atrocities caused the Valar to interfere and imprison Morgoth in the Earth Sauron even at his height may not been more powerful than Morgoth, but he was more dangerous because he was more cunning and patient Sauron expanded his power with the One Ring and used his cunning to outwit or destroy his enemies The prime example was Numenor, the then greatest Kingdom of Middle Earth Sauron then having his One Ring, could have destroyed it if he wanted to, but instead he did worse to it, he despite his power surrendered to Numenor, and played on their pride in capturing him He became from a prisoner to adviser of the King and seduced the Kingdom to worship himself and Morgoth. They fell so horribly the Valar Interfered and destroyed Numenor with a flood, denying Sauron their allegiance, but he still won in destroying. Numenor as an enemy, Even when he lost his power and body, he plots and rebuilds his armies as the world thought he was gone, and Nearly succeeded conquering Middle Earth without the Ring That highlights how much s threat Sauron was, Morgoth would simply destroy and corrode everything, Sauron would see the whole world is conquered with free will stripped, and he had the will to do it, only stopped because of plot armor and meddling heroes lol

uexplorer XD

Omg 😂😂🤣👏

Japanese sauron

Mine too!!❤❤❤❤

When u aint leveled up😂

good one

Novice vs Omega Weapon FFVIII

well, the final boss's lackey

darkness still exists. so they did not defeat it. And morgoth is still alive. he is just banished into the void.

​@@HeavyMetalGamingHD So if Mike Tyson beats you to a pulp in a boxing match, you would say he did not defeat you because you are still alive somewhere in the hospital? Your definition of defeat is a lil off lol.

@@Paivren your logic is a bit off

​@@HeavyMetalGamingHD You don't know the difference between "kill" and "defeat", you are unable to counter my illustrative example, and then you talk about logic as a desparate attempt to save face. Pathetic^^"

@@Paivren so you are coming with semantics and then you insult me. wow. What a nice guy you are.

... watch extended edition part where Aragorn speaks with Sauron through palantir and you should be satisfied about that.

Its not closer to the books because he's intentionally supposed to be a faceless evil like satan

Sharku or "Shalokû"

My Master is stronger than all Maiar

I believe Galadriel uses her ring of power.

Gandalf: *Welp, I tried.*

You are stupid fake of my greatness!

Gandalf lost 3 staves in all six movies.

He’s showing plenty of fear.

What would you think about Snyder's Darkseid voice? Well movie version of Sauron works like this: book Sauron - book silly Sauron = book Evil Sauron (Book evil Sauron + book Morgoth) decided by 2 = movie version of Sauron.

He wasn't sure about it and wherether it really was that ring. Technically he found out that Bilbo had that Ring closer to Bilbo's birthday.

nam dang Light vs darkness

Ha! IKR?!

The Writer of Harry Potter JK rowlings Was inspired by Jrr Tolkien's books, So We Can Say that Patronious was taken from Tolkien Books,