The Homeless GoFundMe Scam 

He was in on it. All three are guilty

These effs have screwed every homeless person ever😢 so many r never gonna give a less fortunate actual good human being, a seconds glance, just remember these pieces of dog shat…good job folks😢

@@MasterMayhem78 That's not the argument Markus was making. We know he's in on it. But we also know he was homeless. He had nothing to lose and really knew it was a scam after it was already underway. So it was going to go on with or without him. If it was an opportunity to get off the streets and actually have a place to live again and know I'll have food everyday, I'm not sure I'd have made a different call. Now since drugs *did* get him there in the first place, I'm not sure how long that "happy ending" would have stayed in place since I don't recall if he actually beat the addiction or not

​@@Mon937Honestly let's say it was just a white lie to help a homeless veteran, and the intention was to actually help. It wouldn't be that hard to get him a rental apartment for a year, a car, and a small monthly living budget over that year. Then put the rest of the money in a trust that would pay for rehab/medical expenses, and only allow him free access to the money after a year of sobriety with regular drug test. What makes trust so powerful is they are a very customizable financial asset when set up right.

​@@MasterMayhem78Don't care. He was never in a position of power. He was a desperate man in a desperate situation he should never have been in if society was a better place. The other two are scum, and the fact that the only thing separating him from eternal poverty was if or not he had committed a single kind gesture that was reported is more of an indictment on us than it could ever be on him.

Yeah, when I first heard of this I was thinking the same thing. Just take what you owe, seeing as you have jobs, a house, and stability, then give the rest. 10k of 400k can be made to look like taxes or something if they put in a little effort

They could've taken half and still have easily gotten away with it. Thank god for human greed and stupidity though as it was the cause of their downfall. Just another reason I hate humanity, we're capable of such greatness but instead greed and selfishness always take the wheel

The sort of sociopaths that scam a homeless man won't settle for less than infinite wealth. They could *have paid their bills and followed through with the post. But they thought of it as *their* money, sickening.

And how exactly could have they taken the rest of the money? Don't you think their banks will ask them where the money came from?

White people like those two are never that selfless.

They're also very silly. They could have used a fictitious homeless man and gotten away with it

They kinda did, 3 and 5 years compared to all those travels is actually less than most people. For 300k, some people would work the same or more time and still be afraid of falling ill one day then going into debt over hospital bills. "White collar crime", aka rich people stealing, is like a slap on the wrist. If the duo were punished so would billionaires, so they paid the equivalent of a fine.

Well that makes it okay.

Doesn't make it ok!

@@donniev8181 you immune to sarcasm or dumb?

doesnt make it ok he still guilty, but his punishment should be basically nothing

yeah, and ordering him to pay back 25k is like the most pointless punishment too. where is he going to get that money now?

You were really strong for avoiding the easier path and Im so sorry you had to go through that in your life. I really admire you.

What do u mean by this

​@@op8ztvfor real, like what were the lies?

Greed tends to override logic.

Exactly they definitely could have profited and taken care of the homeless guy and noone would be the wiser.

They spent more on their transportation than his RV.

@@kaynkayn9870 Wasn't even his RV, it was theirs which they temporarily tolerated him living in. Crazy.

@@bernhardlabus8511 I forgot about that. Truly saw him as nothing but a homeless person. Some lowly homeless person who didn't deserve money *they* made. What a joke.

The guy didn't have much of a choice. It was either a chance at turning his life around, or to keep sitting on the sidewalk, hoping for the generosity of random strangers. It is bewildering to me that throwing a 25k debt on top of a homeless guy is considered justice.

He enabled the crime though that's the main point.

​@@tomr6955 the State enabled it by ditching its responsibilities unto private individuals, only to punish them for not doing the right thing.

​@tomr6955 No it isn't.

3 years is a long time.

i hope he was at least able to get himself into a better enough living situation beforehand to withstand it definitely a case of "justice is blind" not bein' some'n' to brag about

People act like they would never do the same thing if placed in the same situation, it shows a lack of empathy

If they had the smallest amount of decency they never would have started the whole thing

If you want to help homeless person, might as well look at athlete dorm. They're pretty much living like homeless haha. The worst i've lived was a ex-locker room/corridor makeshift into dorm for 12 people.

6 years ago my 4 month old daughter passed away. I was 27 and did not have the nearly 15k her funeral cost us, along with time off work and therapy. My wifes best friends started a gofundme and we were incredibly fortunate to have had everything paid for and a bit more. We didn't have to cheap out on a headstone for our daughter and didn't have to stress about what we were going to do. It was amazing and the reason I always donate to gofundmes for similar things. I don't for a second believe that the "vast majority" are complete bullshit. I do think its tacky to start your own but ya.

@@emorrow6441 Sadly, there's always going to be coverage of when these good intentions are actually just to line a villain's pockets over when they genuinely help people. I didn't even know The Completionist ran a charity fund for dementia until it turned out to be a scam.

This channel once again highlight that. Even game developer on there are at best a coinflip, and the coin is not on your side.

And unfortunately alot of major charities are scams. I remember like 10 years ago some of the top charities were actually corrupt and barely donated

Easy money is spent easily!

gambling addiction is like being a junkie. They cant help it

My grandma told me a saying that eventually I saw on some lame CW show. But it has stuck with me forever: Two people can only keep a secret if one of them is dead. She had so many good mottos and sayings. I miss her sometimes 😢

Crime 101

@@TikkiNikkisure she did, you definitely didn’t just hear that tiktok song and think its very deep and meaningful

@@Froggycolouring okay

@@Froggycolouringwhat tiktok song bro 😂 you’re just chronically online

problem is they got him involved in the lie which incriminated him too.

"... and threw Bobbit under the bus saying he probably spent it on drugs." Well, it's not like he spent it turning his life around.

@@stormisuedonym4599 the video states they opened a bank account with 25k of the 400k in it. Even if he bought 25k of drugs he didn't have enough to do anything except pay his utilities while he found a job. If they had given him at least 200k of it that would be a different story.

@@azinyefantasy4445 Bullshit. 25k is more than enough to get a car and an apartment, with thousands left over to spare. Try again, but keep in mind I'm old enough to remember the pre-COVID economy and have done that whole homeless thing before.

@stormisuedonym4599 no. 25k isn't enough. I'm old enough to remember pre COVID economy too. 25k 20 years ago wasn't enough. I also was homeless. I also work. 25k today is the same as $100 50 years ago. I'm also old enough to remember when the USD was supposed to afford the basics - which includes car, rent, savings - and no matter what you or others say - the Internet. All on a single job that literally was min wage. Which for the uneducated, that means you, the minimum wage at which the basics are afforded without any assistance. Which literally means no food stamps, no subsidized living, no government programs, social security. Etc. We haven't had '25k is plenty" for many decades. In today's economy, 80k isn't enough. But hey, it sure is enough while half the country is below poverty and are the only ones that are paying the taxes that are supposed to be for our food. Our infrastructure, our citizens. We got enough money to send to other nations, we have 3nough that 26 an hour regardless of where I work gets a house. No bank loan No 2nd job. No government assistance. Maybe 25k is enough for LeBron James....but it's different right?

"ravel across Europe or Asia" with 20k there could've done both!

Shocking eh I couldn’t believe bobbit got that much of a fine and probation. Goes to show they don’t care for would they would see as lesser than people. Makes me sick! They lived amazing for 3 months aswell holidays etc!

gotta love the american "justice" system

But…but that can’t be true. The patriarchy wouldn’t go easy on her!!!

She's a woman. Its just statistics.

Male "privilege"

Most of the Food Not Bombs fundraisers on GoFundMe reached their goal. But none of them mention anything like you do. They ask for limited support to buy a van, or a kitchen appliance, hospital bills, legal bills. Two of them reached their goal and said ongoing donations would help and they are both food kitchens. Even the hospital bill one for workers injured in some attack raised it's goal of $40k. Maybe it will help or maybe it won't but I don't see how you can be mad if there isn't even a post on there asking for the help.

yea as i grow up i realize government figures literally choose for people to be homeleey

Is this actually true? Benefits make up a giant amount of the federal budget, do they not? Lots of people are housed on other people's taxes already; is it really this simple?

@centerfield6339 There have been multiple studies comparing the costs that go into doing sweeps and the costs of court cases and the costs of prison per head and the increased medical costs due to living in the elements, etc. Versus what it would cost to build and maintain public housing units and provide food, universally these find that it would cost less to do the latter. Some studies find that it would cost three times less, but even if you took a more conservative estimate that we just broke even, the side benefits are reduced crime and that people who go into permanent supportive housing end up with a very high rate of getting back into the workforce and actually contributing back into the system. It really is that simple. We just need the political will to do it. The carceral approach is expensive and ineffective, *unless* your only goal is to create a permanent underclass of de facto slave labor to work in prisons...

@@Frakkle yeah it's got to be evil people wanting slaves. Can't just be that studies don't mean it will work. Social sciences papers are barely worth the cost of the paper. If you want it to work then I get that, but people don't like studies that are so multivariate as to be almost useless. The fact that you don't mention that is a bit worrying for someone wanting to trust your own analytical skills.

We live in a patriarchal society, unfortunately. Until we TRULY change that, this will continue to happen

@@CoreDump451 🤣

That's the P-pass. I wonder if there is a study on female judges vs male judges and their sentencing.

@@CoreDump451 If by "patriarchal" you mean "only men are really expected to be adults," then yes.

@@stormisuedonym4599 that is one of the things folks who complain about "the patriarchy" tend to hate, yes not having full accountability and not having full agency are two sides of the same coin

good deed if true. good on ya

He knowingly supported the fraud (though it's hard to blame him).

​@@nninjastrike2127yeah p much this. Whether or not you agree or disagree/blame him is irrelevant since you gotta follow the law on it and still punish him for being a part of it.

@@bass1sam Nah it's not irrelevant. Something being deemed illegal isn't the same as it being wrong.

I think he was used, taken advantage of and he was in vulnerable position. Unless there is something more to this story, I would argue that he was more of a victim on the two as he seemed to speak in forthcoming manner when he was asked about the things. At least in the country where I live, things can be viewed quite differently depending on the position of the person like elderly person with dementia, person with mental health problems, young child or other such cases. They are easier to take advantage of and get exploited.

This country beats people when they are down. Legally he was in the wrong, but I have no doubt being homeless the cops would have picked him up at some point. Hell, maybe his life did get saved this way.

True, the couple was desperate for his silence, and that made the situation potentially dangerous.

Same. I'm from West Philly (not born, but raised) and Philly is the asshole capital of the United States. This story is the fakest thing ever.

tbf the guy was a total bum. he worked min wage and gambled. The girl is a total loser for choosing this guy, like the square jaw dont mean shit todays age. Im one of the chads. (TALKING BOUT WEALTH HERE)

all he cared about was getting help, that lie in the middle? just noise. Morality is only fit for the healthy.

Thank you I’m also a grammar person too. Hope he noticed lol. Edit: to distract the grammar, I’d like to say this video was amazing, including the quality! If there is anyone seeing my comment now, please tell me any random Wikipedia articles are your fav. It’s a hobby of mine and I literally search random things! Ex: Clippy from Windows XP

Went to post for the same reason

also November 21th 2017 at 7:26

You have been promoted to lieutenant for this

@@Ilikememes0 grammar is not spelling.But we're getting into trivialities.

Most people are greedy

He got 75k out of this.

How much would it cost to house two people for 30 years? We aren't the British who dump people into Australia and call it fair!

He spent money he got by fraud. It wasnt a fine it was restitution. You dont get to steal donations just because you aint got a crib bro.

@@Six_Gorillion From what's presented in the video, he *didn't* spend the money. McClure and D'Amico were the ones who spent all of it. Even the RV and car they gave him were in McClure's name and the couple ended up selling them out from under Bobbit and kicking him off their property. That was why he wound up homeless and panhandling again, which incidentally was what led to the media picking up on what happened and Bobbit getting lawyers who tried to get the $150,000 for him from the couple who'd already spent it all. I agree that he was wrong to steal donations, but I also think that charging him $25,000 when he's literally homeless is ridiculous. He has no actual way of paying it off.

@@MissCookieThief Watch the video they set up an account in his name with 25k on it.

@@Six_Gorillion I looked into it a bit. According to an article I found on The Independent: "The money that came to Mr Bobbitt could not stop his addiction. He went through two unsuccessful stints in rehab that brought him no closer to being sober. Some of the money GoFundMe donors gave to him ended up in the pockets of drug dealers, Mr Bobbitt told The Inquirer." So yeah, he got $25,000 but some of that went to paying for *two* stints in rehab trying to kick an addiction, and unfortunately some of it went to funding said addiction. That doesn't make it okay, but it would be ignorant not to acknowledge how difficult it can be for some people to fight their addictions. There's a reason substance abuse disorders are treated as mental heath disorders. And honestly, I don't know where you live but $25,000 is not enough to buy a home and support yourself without a job. Especially if he'd already spent some of it on rehabilitation clinics. There was another article I saw that said the couple claimed Bobbitt had also spent some of that money on his family. We don't know how much the combination of those things left him with, but probably not a huge amount. All of this was also *before* he was charged with $25,000 for the crime, so he didn't have that money still in his account in order to pay the restitution. What he did was wrong, yes. No one is arguing that he should get a free pass. But to charge a huge fine like that for someone who is literally homeless is still dumb. Unless he had found a job and the plan was just to garnish his wages until the $25k was paid off, then the fine makes no sense. He didn't have the money to pay it and has no means of getting that sort of money now. This just means that whatever money he gets from now on would have to go towards paying off the fine, which only prolongs his homelessness and makes it harder for him to clean himself up and get his life together, which also means it's more likely that he'll fall into shady or illegal actions to try and get money again. It's more likely to perpetuate a criminal cycle. A short jail sentence and a smaller fine that he could reasonably be able to pay off would make far more sense from a deterrence and restitution perspective. Also, there was no mention of that $25,000 fine going back to the people he took it from, and GoFundMe already stated they would repay the donors anyway.

​​@@Six_GorillionWhich he had no access

Its a deterrent so he never thinks about scamming again. And mostly, it's a deterrent for others planning to defraud. Its not about the money, its about the message.

​@@Six_GorillionWhat a useless message

Not 'love'...but 'the lust...."