She wasn't beheaded because she was no longer at court along side her sister Anne, she had married beneither her station without permission from the King to a Captian in the Royal Army and therefore she was banished from court never to return. She wouldn't have been beheaded because she was no longer considered Noble by Nobility Society. That in itself was a great punishment for a young woman who was born into a Nobel household and given priviledge not just by one Royal Court but two. She was treated like a Royal Mistress and in those days it was better than being a Queen that is placed under such stress and demands to produce an heir for the succession of the blood line of the King. She was pampered and given lavish gifts and did nothing all day but have fun and by night she serviced the King in his Royal Bed chambers. Mary's fall from Grace was of her own doing and several years before Anne arrived at the English court to serve as Katherine of Aragons Land in Waiting. She had already given birth to Henry's Bastard Son and some say she also gave him a daughter he never claimed. She was forced to marry William Carey (a sickly man) who later died from his illness. She lived out the remainder of her life far from her glory days at court after her marriage to the Army Captian and never saw her Father, Mother, Sister or Brother again during her lifetime. Though it is well known that Anne provided for her sister by a yearly income until her death, afterward Mary petitioned her Father for financial help and he reluctantly gave it of $100.00 pounds a year until his death. Mary's life ended sadly at the age of 44 giving birth to her last child, a son, who also died. Women in those days had very little say in how their lives turned out. They were married off to the highest bidder so to speak. Political connections in those days were impairative to assure a better station in life. Parents used their beautiful daughters as political pawns to entice Royals into bedding them for capital gain. To have a daughter in the bed of a King was Gold to these ambitious men. Thomas Boleyn did that to poor Mary glamourizing being the whore of a King as some privilegde and status. Even though even in those days Royal Concubines were as frowned upon as any street walker by the Nobels. Her sad end came as a result of the poor choices she made and the greed and desire for power of her father and uncles at court.
@@Meriale46 lol you sound like someone who would discourage the American colonies from revolting against your beloved king! I have no such blind loyalties.
I really hate assigning the title "mistress" to a woman who more than likely was not a consenting party to the "affair(s)" she was in. After all what woman can say no to a literal king who can destroy you and your entire family on a whim?
All the suffering of so many, just because Henry VIII couldn’t keep his pants closed and stay faithful to his wife. He wanted to break from the Catholic Church, he just used Anne as a scapegoat reason to do it. What a coward he was.
@@chelseacarr9598 That is exactly correct. He even wrote the Seven Sacraments together with the RC zealot Bishop Stephen Gardiner who did his best to get Katherine Parr executed of heresy.
@@jiminiescakes he was as in my belief he had inherited his father’s paranoia over the way he gained his throne, Henry vii was a very suspicious and untrustful man as a lot of men and women were still alive with Plantagenet blood. (The rightful to the throne through bloodline). So the Tudors desperately needed male heirs to carry on the house of Tudor. This is also the reason a lot of the Plantagenets where murdered on trumped up charges or married off to men loyal to the Tudors. It’s all very intriguing
Mary B died peacefully in her bed with her head still attached to her shoulders. While she is the lesser known of the Boylen sisters, Mary has living descendants today, including members of the current royal family of England and 1-2 U.S presidents.
“Graced the bed of two kings”🤮 dude why the hell would you say something like this? I’m sure if it were up to the girl, she wouldn’t wanna grace any old fat man’s bed.
My own belief is that Mary Boleyn and Anne of Cleves were similar; they were both used as pawns in Henry Viii's love life - Mary did marry the love of her life and Anne of Cleves escaped Henry's clutches and managed to live a happy life away from court. I think both were strong and lucky women compared to the others in Henry's life.
Hviii was actually pretty decent and generous with Anne of Cleve's after hviii rejected her. She was given homes and money by Henry and had a nice life after he annulled marriage.
@samantha smith yes. He was kind to Anne and apparently they became friends. She was invited to functions and had a pleasant rich lifestyle. No guillotine.
@@edp3202 indeed, this is why Cleves is, in part, considered to be the lucky wife. She could enjoy many of the privileges of the royal class without the stress and eventual heartache that came with being a spouse to Henry VIII
The woman were just pawns in the mans world. I do not envy any woman living in this time period. I couldn’t imagine this life at all. I wonder if any of them really did love Henry or were just doing what they were told them must do?
It's funny, Anne's insistence on wedlock before impregnation has always been put forth as a conniving power play. Pretty different story once you understand that womanizer's history with her own sister.
Mary's fate always made me unhappy as she was legit a fairly decent person. Despite all the bullshit that went down in her time. Very few people had the moxy to tell Henry no, and let's face it. Either Mary's husband or Catherine had any say in any of this.
Really, and you know this how? The Other Boleyn Girl Movie? Mary wasn't some shy wall flower who was coaxed to be a Royal Mistress, Mary quite enjoyed it. She was the Mistress of 2 Kings, not just Henry VIII and she had countless sexual relationships with both French and English Noblemen and Officers. She wasn't taken advantage of by any means. She was spoiled and given great priviledge being a royal concubine... she was lavished with gifts, given land and houses and did nothing all day accept wait for the King to want to have sex with her. So poor Mary wasn't poor Mary. She even turned on her Sister after Anne and George were arrested and lied by telling her Uncle Thomas Howard that she beleived Anne and George had slept together out of spite. Even though her affair with Henry VIII was long over by the time Anne returned home from France. Jealousy was her driving force behind her involvement in her siblings demise. She was vindictive and as a result she screwed herself by marrying a Captian of the Royal guard knowing she had to obtain permission from the King. She was banished from court by Anne still supported her after she was sent away. She cut her nose off to spite her own face by being a party to her siblings deaths. She recieved very little support from her father afterward and that is why she lived like she did prior to her death. It really gets to me how so many people feel sorry for Mary when she doesn't deserve sympathy.
I always thought that all things co considered she did better than most: she has an awful reputation, but may have benefited from it herself, then was fell in love and married her younger and allegedly handsome lover, while disgraced she kept her head, then inherited bunch of land and money...not bad at all compared to how everyone around were dropping disgraced, thrown into tower and dead
Henry Viii was a monster. An embossed carbuncle in the corrupted blood of English history. Yet, the English seem to regard him as a sort of likeable rogue. He was nothing of the kind. The narrative should change. His villainy and brutality as king is unrivalled. In comparison, Charles I - that “man of blood” who lost his head in the English Civil War - was a Latter-Day Saint.
Charles the first was no Mormon watch the Netflix documentary keep sweetbto see the disgraceful way girls and women in the godsfindamentalist LDE are treated
If mary had been queen and died our queen wouldnt have been born he was a king and did as he pleased he is part of our great history no mater what people think that cant be changed
Lol I commented similar. One lady mentioned she was relayed to nearly all famous royalty in the past 😂😂😂 Although maybe she is as they all married their cousins etc
I love your videos thank you for posting. However, I think you have it wrong that Mary died in abject poverty. Her parents died within 3 years of Anne's death, as Mary was the only living relative, she inherited the Boleyn's wealth and homes and lived out her life with plenty of money and love as well. Mary was the winner after all.
@@HL-xz8zf James actually was Mary's uncle. There were only 3 Boleyn children that survived to adulthood, Mary, George, and Anne. But, yes, it did revert to Henry VIII's possession and he ended up giving it to Anne of Cleves. Perhaps, Sharion Sadler, she didn't die in abject poverty, but she did die in obscurity. But there is the letter to Cromwell, practically begging for financial assistance, so obviously she wasn't doing well. Mary is the winner only in that she didn't lose her head and her children both had positions at court.
I'm with you, sharion. The historian Allison Weir wrote a biography of Mary - Mary inherited the entire Boleyn Estate but unfortunately died soon afterwards. She had several children and a husband who loved her deeply . Mary's life wasn't long but it wasn't tragic. Tbh I take issue with just about every claim made in this video, about both the Boleyn girls.
I love period dramas about the Tudors but we shouldn't take them as actual history. What is provable about Mary Boleyn's life would make for a much duller video, I think. If the Tudors (TV Show) is to be believed, Mary was traded at the Fields of Cloth of Gold by Wolsey as a sweetener to the deal. If Anne of a Thousand Days is to be believed, Mary bore Henry's illegitimate child and was tossed aside, which showed Anne not to follow her sister's path. If The Other Boleyn Girl is be believed, William Stafford was a noble and good as Mary's letter to Cromwell made him out to be and if Wolf Hall is to be believed, Mary probably had a third bastard with Henry, and passed it off as Stafford's since her husband was no longer living. It's all interesting possibilities and makes for great drama, but none of it can be verified. If she was having sex with Francis, she would have been very young, and the term "mistress" should be changed to human traficked sex worker.
This was because she was married to William Carey at the time she had both children and in Tudor times it was generally accepted that any children the wife had were the husband's offspring, this was one of the reasons why she was married as acknowledging a royal bastard would cause many complications. The contemporary portraits of the the two children as adults show an uncanny likeness to Henry and Elizabeth I gave them both prominent positions at her court, seeing as they are were cousins, not half siblings as this video says. The fact that the had their portrait done at all suggests that they were held in higher esteem, certainly by Elizabeth, and in the absence of DNA testing we have to look at both possibilities given the sources of the time.
@@kenthompson3730 There's no such thing as a half cousin. They were half siblings, all fathered by Henry VIII. And elizabeth I would have been a half sibling and a cousin of the children.
Lettuce knollyes Elizabeth's coursing by Katherine Mary's daughter was known for her similar appearance to her Elizabeth It is highly likely Catherine at least was his
Katherine Carey is likely Henry's daughter. He was having an affair with Mary at the time, paid Mary's husband a suspicious amount of gold when Catherine was born. Mary's son was likely not Henry's, though. Their affair was said to have ended by the time Mary's son was conceived. Katherine Carey looks like Henry, never thought her brother did.
@greneellen8 There is such thing as a half cousin. The child of one of your parents half sibling is a half cousin or half 1st cousin. But in this case Elizabeth I and Mary's kids were always 1st cousins not half and suspected half siblings too.
Both Ann and Mary must have been very attractive women to catch the eyes of the king. I wonder what their secret thoughts were , as their family seemed so ambitious. I wonder if at any time they reached out to each other in a quite way.
Mary had already been Francis's mistress. Might have made her stand out to Henry so he could prove he could have her too. I assume once the favours started disappearing as his enthusiasm waned they decided to give him the next sister. But she decided mistress was not enough.
Catherine Howard (5th wife of King Henry VIII) is Mary Boleyn's first cousin. Mary Boleyn → Elizabeth Boleyn, Countess of Wiltshire her mother → Edmund Howard her brother → Catherine Howard (5th wife of King Henry VIII) his daughter
Poor Anne. I believe she got a bad deal w the King. At this point after having her beheaded I started to believe King Henry was a sort of serial killer. He had wives beheaded and threw them away like garbage. It angers me to hear couriers called her a witch I don't believe he ever had one decent emotion for Anne. She would have been better off had he never laid eyes on her. God rest her soul.
Mary Boleyn is my ancestress and I always admired her, especially over her sister, Anne. Mostly what everyone knows about her is that she was an infamous mistress to (allegedly) two Kings but behind that, she was a nice, decent woman who married for love in the end and was cast aside by her family for it... she deserved way better than what she got.
Just pausing the video for a bit to say that I am very proud of Mary she eventually married for love & happy for her she got to do that even if her selfish family didn't approve. Yeah, her family really did go power hungry for sure. I watched a movie called, "The Other Boylen Girl." I will say that Scarlett Johansson did a really great job playing that role. When I looked at these old pictures of the real Mary Boylen I am reminded of the expression Scarlett Johansson used playing her in that movie. Also in that movie Mary was the one I felt sympathy for & I could tell the girl's mother was upset with what the dad & uncle was doing with her daughters. Ok I am getting back to the video. I just had to share that.
She also inherited Rochford Hall from her grandmother Margaret Butler just days before her death...so sad we don't know where she is burried...and we don't know what happened to her baby with William Stafford (she came to court heavily pregnant and was banished by Anne)
According to wiki: Mary's marriage to William Stafford (d. 5 May 1556) may have resulted in the birth of two further children:[18] Edward Stafford (1535-1545). Anne Stafford (b. 1536?), possibly named in honour of Mary's sister, Queen Anne Boleyn.
I believe her grandmother who ran Rochford Hall was either Margaret Beauford or Lady Rochford. In any case, The Hall was like a girls schools/foster care/juvenile hall for loose rich girls, and Catherine Howard spent some time there. Apparently the boys would come around at night, and Kathryn got some of her initial experience that way. It was totally unsupervised and seemed almost like a whorehouse
Back then, if you had daughters, they were treated as bargaining chips amongst the men of the family. Basically they told you what you were going to do and when. Even up into the 18th century and who knows how long after, female were children were often used to unite two family's for advantageous reasons. Seen almost always within royal family's and people of nobility. I'd imagine it wasn't uncommon for lower people to arrange such things from time to time as well.
Yes, the local daughters of the nobility were used as pawns and married off to increase power and status and create familial connections/connexions or pimped as mistresses of the king to receive gifts of land, titles and garner influence. Kings used their daughters as pawns for political reasons. The reason Henry VII was so keen to have Arthur marry Catalina was to enhance his legitimacy to the throne of England and create a powerful ally on the world stage. Catherine had an even closer connection to John of Gaunt. After Arthur’s death, Henry VII wanted to marry Catherine, in order to keep her dowry and the Spanish affiliation. Her mother wouldn’t allow the marriage - Henry VII was too old and in poor health. Upon his death, Catherine would become a dowager queen, and be powerless. Also, there was the issue of her being his daughter-in-law.
I see Francois I exculpates his own misconduct towards Mary, all sin is landed on Mary, what a nerve. He evidently was not familiar enough with God's conversation with Adam, who tried to blame all misdoing on Eve.
lolol. And considering some of the men she shagged, drugs might not have been such a bad thing. Too bad they weren't around but at least there was alcohol ! I hope she took a few swigs before going to bed with Henry (although I hear he was quite a babe before that leg injury!).
There is question as to whether the portrait at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3">0:03</a> is Mary Boleyn, because the sitter wears ermine, a fur only worn by royals and peers of the realm, and Mary was neither.
I am a direct descendant of Mary Boleyn and Henry VIII through their son Henry. It was shocking to learn this while I was doing Family History but I have truly learned to care for Mary and feel for her abuse by the men in her life.
@@empandora123 how do you find this out? How can you go back so far? I’m from Ireland so maybe it’s different here as alot of documentation got burned in the civil war
There’s really not evidence to back up the opinion that Thomas Boleyn used his daughter’s as pawns to gain power and encouraged them to sleep with the king. He was already very successful and powerful long before Mary and the King’s affair (he was prominent courtier during Henry VII’s reign) and wasn’t thrilled at the thought of either of his daughter’s being the King’s mistress. The misconception about the Boleyn men using Anne and Mary as pawns seems to come from historical fictions instead of actual history. As for when Henry first became interested in Anne, I don’t believe it was as soon after his affair with Mary as many believe. Mary’s affair with Henry occurred for sure prior to her marriage to William Carey in 1520. While it may have continued after their marriage, we don’t know for sure. She gave birth to her daughter, Catherine, in 1522 which was the same year Anne returned from France. I don’t think it was until 1526 that Henry started pursuing Anne.
That's great history if its factual. The thought that Mary was so used shows the utter sexism and power males had over women in that day. Perhaps it is presumptuous to say that, as all people of that time bowed to all the kings power. But women had it the worst. So Anne was a rarity in that she had motives, skill and apparently brains to maneuver herself into a marriage, instead of as another mistress to Henry. Because of Anne's intelligence, she produced the greatest monarch in English history...Elizabeth 1.
I like the Joanna Denny book "Anne Boleyn". She makes the point that being the King's mistress, wasn't such a great thing, and not something Thomas Boleyn would have wanted. Whereas Henry VIII was, a stalker with enablers.
Could it also be that that Henry didn't chase Anne until 1526 because she was still a teenager in the early 1520's and they were looking for her marriage mate? I'm one of those who think Anne must've been born around 1505-07 which would make her 20-21 years of age when Henry started pursuing her.
Yep. I think you're right. Henry wrote to Anne in - I think - 1528 stating that he'd been "struck by the dart of love" for her for over a year, suggesting he fell for her in 1526. I don't think the Boleyn men used Mary and Anne as pawns either. I know this isn't evidence of anything but have you ever read the inscription their brother George wrote to Anne in a book he gave her? It's so loving and sweet - and no, not in a creepy way! What evidence there is suggests George at least had enormous respect for Anne. Most of the stuff about how vile the Boleyn men were comes from books like The Other Boleyn Girl, which is a grotesque and unfair depiction of everybody (with the possible exception of Mary Boleyn herself).
The movie, The Other Boleyn Girl, although I feel like there were some adjustments to accuracies & inaccuracies, is what made me feel for Mary. She was definitely an unwilling pawn from the beginning & if she was as beautiful as they say, where TWO kings wanted to bed her, then its no wonder she gained a reputation for being "easy"...women didn't really have alot of say during that time & if the king wanted to sleep with you, then it likely WASN'T up to YOU, to say no... especially, if certain family members were in the kings' favor, part of the court, then it likely also risked the entire familiy's status.... which honestly, I think that was more on Anne's head, then Mary's... the movie showed Mary as being the younger sister to Anne & very devoted to her. Yet regardless of what she was put through, she was still able to survive this horrific ordeal & go on to marry a man who truly loved her & she, him. It seems what Anne did, caused the entire family's downfall, because Norfolk & the father, were addicted to the prestige & esteem it gave them. Their mother, Lady Elizabeth, I feel for her too. She was an unwilling participant & being of higher stature than Thomas, married HIM for love, yet ended up losing all of her children, as a result of the mens' greed for power... & I'm of the mind that George & Anne did NOT sleep together, & that George was also an innocent victim of certain other family members obsession with fame. Yet when it comes to Mary, just so sad. It seemed like all women back then, were pimped out & couldn't complain about it. So many wrong & immoral things were covered up & made excuses for back then, its just sad!
I think maybe your timeliness is wrong . I've always read Mary was used as mistress and then married off to her first husband arranged by Henry. Also the Anne Bolyn files channel and author of Tudor history books states this timeline.
Henry preferred that his mistresses have husbands. That way, he could deny paternity of any children they gave birth to and when he got tired of them he could just send them back to their husbands.
@@ladyv5655 it was also a man that was willing to look the other way while he played with their wife. He’d give the man a title or property as “payment” in a way. It also might have been seen as giving the woman a retirement plan too. When her relationship with the king was over, she’d still have a husband who made decent money to take care of her.
Henry was very generous to William Carey granting him property and offices. This was the norm when a king of the period beds one’s wife or had done. So to say Henry wasn’t generous towards Mary is incorrect
She was referring to after William Carey when Mary married the soldier, Edward Stafford,who was considered less than her in status. I thought the narrator did a very good job of explaining that Mary was left destitutely poor at the end of her life.
@@waterdragon9274 why would Henry be responsible for her on her second marriage? First marriage is expected yes but I shouldn’t think the second especially as it was not an accepted match and when she hadn’t got permission as sister of the Queen?
He wasn't so much generous to Mary as he was giving gifts to Carey to show his appreciation for letting him sleep with his wife. Mary's father also benefited from her relationship with the king. Thomas Boleyn always seemed more like his daughters' pimp than their father.
@@Chipoo88 Although not DNA tested ,it appears there is a more than probable likelihood that Mary had one or two children by Henry. That would put a vested interest in it.
I truly admire Mary and her resilience.She did nothing wrong just did what she was told.She kept doing things just to help her family,if she used what she had to do this.Who cares?Was it her fault? I think not.
@@cherylande1558 actually Lettyce Knowllys was Mary Boleyn's granddaughter. She was the daughter of Katherine Carey- Mary's daughter & Elizabeth's cousin. Lettyce was the wife of Robert Dudley- favorite of her Mom's 1st cousin...
Mary died in her early 40's in about 1543. Elizabeth was about 10 by that time so I would say there is more than likely no chance that she ever meet Mary
Ann’s shockingly, judgmental and cold treatment of her older sister is notable. She was also also cruel to her stepdaughter, Mary. Many want to romanticize Idealize Anne, somehow a noble victim, but she can stab people in the back as well, including her own sister.
She was abused by Henry and her family. But in the end she married for love not status or money or power. She died of natural causes. She did better than Anne or George did.
I WORKED IN A RESTAURANT WHOSE OWNER LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE HENRY VIII. MY COWORKER WAS A HISTORY TEACHER DURING THE DAY AND SHE AGRRED WITH ME THAT THE BOSS WAS A DEADRINGER FOR HENRY RIGHT DOWN TO THE RED MOUSTACHE,BEARD AND BODY BUILD. THE BOSS WAS A MONSTER, AL WAYS YELLING AT THE THE WAITRESSES. UNCANNILY ENOUGH, THE WAITRESSES ALL LOOKED LIKE HENRY VIII 'S WIVES. IT WAS ALMOST LIKE REINCARNATION COME TO LIFE. THIS BOSS OF MINE HAD BEEN MARRIED BEFORE BUT DIVORCED HIS WIFE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE KIDS AND ENDED UP MARRYING AN 18 YEAR OLD AND HAD KIDS WITH HER BUT SHE LIVED IN FEAR OF THIS MAN ALL THE TIME.
This was because she was married to William Carey at the time she had both children and in Tudor times it was generally accepted that any children the wife had were the husband's offspring, this was one of the reasons why she was married as acknowledging a royal bastard would cause many complications. The contemporary portraits of the the two children as adults show an uncanny likeness to Henry and Elizabeth I gave them both prominent positions at her court, seeing as they are were cousins, not half siblings as this video says. The fact that the had their portrait done at all suggests that they were held in higher esteem, certainly by Elizabeth, and in the absence of DNA testing we have to look at both possibilities given the sources of the time.
@Grundm He or she is right. It's highly unlikely Henry fathered Mary's son. He inherited William Carey's estate, which could only happen if he was "lawfully begotten in marriage (to William Carey)". There may not have been DNA testing at the time but people weren't blind or stupid - had there been doubts about his paternity, it's highly unlikely he'd have inherited Carey's estate. Of course it's theoretically possible Henry fathered him but we can't just take that as a given. There isn't one iota of evidence to support the claim. This video claims his birth "coincides" with Mary's affair with Henry - that's total bollocks. Nobody even knows when their affair took place, except that it was prior to Henry meeting Anne.
Mary's two children were fathered by Henry VIIIth although they took her husband's surname. The eldest, Catherine Carey, was one of Elizabeth 1st favourite ladies-in-waiting and her son, Henry Carey, grew to be a close confident and supporter of Elizabeth who was very generous to both of her 'cousins' (although also, half siblings) so I think Mary had the last laugh.
Why is it disgusting? This was normal 500 years ago. Women wanted to be part of the court and sleep with nobles. That’s like if 500 years from now people criticize IG models
His wife was Queen Claude, a very pious woman who Anne served. Queen Claude's husband who was sleeping around with anything that moved and had power, which Mary Boleyn did not, should keep his mouth under that HUGE nose, quiet.
This is unfair to the Boelyn Family. Mary's inconsiderate marriage removed the oppertunity for what might have been a crucial ally. The Tudors show nailed it "You your honest soldier can go. To. Hell." - Papa Boelyn
Preposterous moralising. People of that time did not have the same scruples and perspectives as we do now. Another way of looking at it, perhaps closer to the way she considered her career was that she wielded her sexuality and personal qualities with some skill. She was the mistress of two kings (no doubt a profitable occupation) and managed, by avoiding politics and overplaying her hand, to survive the downfall of the Boleyn faction at court. She then managed to live out her days in wealth and with status - and in peace. No mean achievement
Opinions vary, apparently, about whether she lived out her days (not the wording we usually use when someone dies in their forties, but anyway) in 'wealth and status', in reduced but tolerable circumstances, or in abject poverty .... I have no idea, but I'm surprised there is such discrepancy.
@@hilariousname6826Mary left court to marry for love. This outraged her sister who felt that it insulted the new rank and status of the party of the Boleyns. Mary's husband came from a family of some means however and while they weren't rich on the scale of the magnates of the Tudor establishment, they were wealthy enough to live well on the proceeds of the family estates. The fact that there were no further punitive actions taken against them - death or banishment was a fairly normal proceeding for nobles who married without royal consent and 'below their station' - is a strong indicator of the respect that Henry continued to have for her. It's been a long time since I read this stuff so please excuse any vagueness in my memory. When the liason between Henry and Mary ended, Henry continued to use her as a form of sounding board, someone to try his ideas on. There's a quote somewhere in the black hole of my memory in which he remarked that the sweetness and goodness of her nature served to quiet the anger and tempests of his humours. Mary was far less radical about religious matters than Anne and the people around her. After Henry's jousting injuries, he was diminished in various ways, most notably by a head injury and a leg injury which never healed. It seems that for a time, Anne was able to run rings around him mentally and make him follow her like a bull with a ring in his nose. When their failure to produce a male heir continued, her stock began to fall away eventually to nothing. After the fall of the Boleyns at court ( which Mary seemed to have been prescient about) there is some evidence that Henry resumed communication with Mary intermittently and through intermediaries and sent her at least on piece of jewellery. He spoke kindly of her for the rest of his life.
Yes. The Boleyn blood line is continued through Mary Boleyn. The current British royal family are directly descended from Mary Boleyn. Mary is the 13th great grandmother of the current monarch, Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Northern Ireland. This makes Anne Boleyn the 13th great grandaunt of Queen Elizabeth II. The late Princess Diana of Wales was also a direct descendent of Mary Boleyn. Diana was the 14th great granddaughter of Mary Boleyn. Her sons, Prince William and Prince Harry, are also both descended twice from Mary Boleyn.
When u say this 2as a time when it was acceptable for the king have mistresses as Mary was...... What about Charlie boy now... After Diana had fulfilled the Windsors need for an heir an spare, he could get back to full time affair with Camila and dainae could amuse herself as best she could.......
Different times - we want our royals to be adhere to conventional notions of morality nowadays. My understanding is that Queen Victoria promoted the 'healthy normal family' image, and that image has helped to prop up the status of the British royalty, even if honoured more in the breach ....
both Boylen sisters were at the French court and when Henry 8ths sister Mary Tudor married the king of Fance her ladies mary and anne Boylen were sent away...this is when Anne and Boylen were sent to be Catherine of aragon's ladies in waiting! and this is where my douchbeag cousin Henry got his hooks into them......ugh! I hat the Tudor line of my family so much..except foe Elizabeth of course...she made the familial abuse end with her!
Indeed. It's not well researched either and the presentation is unprofessional. This was the first video I watched from this channel and it's certainly going to be the last.
Out of curiosity how did you find this out? The Bloodline of Mary Boleyn to this very day are connected to Nobility by one manner or another just as they were in her day. Which side of the Boelyn family are you decendant from exactly? If you are related to the Carey's then you are not related to Mary Boleyn because her 2 children were not by her husband, but Henry VIII...The Carey's are directly related to either side of the Boleyn or the Tudor family unless you are are a decendent of Henry VIII bloddline through his bastard children. The Boleyn's direct bloodline died out after the death of Thomas Boleyn, his only son was beheaded along with Queen Anne Bolelyn...her daughter Elizabeth was the only child other than Mary's 2 children to have decended from the Boleyn's. The only Boleyn to survive was Mary and she passed 7 years after her Sister and Brother. She had the 2 surviving children, Henry and Catherine both supposed Bastards of Henry VIII. So which side are you related to? Henry Carey or Catherine Carey and by what proxy? I'm a Tudor Histroian and would love to hear just who you're akin to and how you came to know this.
My lovely daughter, you will be useful to me if you marry someone of importance or be the king's mistress. It will put in me in a better position and help me to advance the future of my sons
I'm a direct descedant of one of Mary and Anne Boelyn's servant's uncle illegitimately legitimate stepson servant's stepsister servant's cousin's play cousin thrice removed by uncommonly common marriage making me pretty much the nobelest knobbly kneed bowleggedyesty byproduct of this illaligned lineage of this take-out dynasty! Making me pretty much THE MOMENT. THE MOMENT has passed...passing to the next Second a.k.a THE MOMENT JR. Long Live the TIME..☠️ TIME is currently standing still for portraits.
There is no record that Anne Boleyn hold sex with Henry until the marriage... that's always in representations... but there is no record of it. Also, there's no record of Mary Boleyn being blond either. But for being different of the catholic dark eyes and hair that Anne Boleyn was, they made Mary Boleyn blond on representations.
I think she gets called name's like mistress n others I won't print an it's unfair. Katherine Howard is called abuse child n it's said she was pressured into it which I don't agree with her teacher yes but after marriage to the King no . However Mary a young girl was at a different country n I do believe abused she was a young girl far away from home an the King took advantage , Then she is married and the King took advantage her father and husband pushed her into a affair an yes her Uncle her father got promoted her brother got a position at court and was promoted an Mary herself got little , Then when used up her father doesn't want to help her with any money her father put his wife n two daughters in the Kings bed n then was happy to b on the jury of Ann an George in which they were beheaded
