The Horse That Attacks You - TRT Rescue S01E01 

Whaaaaat? The only blamed here is the horse! It seems that the horse has no control over his own body for what he said! This horse needs just being in a pasture with other horses to release some energy! No science fiction here, just treat the horse like a horse and don't keep it in a stall the majority of the time!

Maybe a helmet hard hat??

I have one just like him. She is turned out 7-8 hours every day plus riding. This doesnt make a difference for these highly intelligent, high energy horses. But Tristans exercises do help.

I was thinking the same....after 20 yrs of being in the horse world I've always found that dressage riders in particular are the worst at leaving horses in stalls with little turn out.....I hate this for the dressage community, wish they'd do better

This was the first thing I thought during the intro with no horses in the field. He’s pretty playful looking.

I am also afraid this horse doesn't get out too often. But we can't know as I also own a (young) horse that shows the same behaviour and he is hardly locked in the stable but most of the time living in an open stable with connection to a field and with other horses. And still everything he does is with very high energy, even tho he runs around like crazy in the field everyday. I think some horses just have this kind of energy and it is important to get it into the right direction

I think it’s the intelligence of the animal as opposed to turn out, my mare is in a herd and has 24 hour turnout and it makes no difference, it’s the breeding and competitive breeding but they can be helped. If you’ve never had one it’s difficult to understand

that's what i thought when i saw his reaction when he entered the big open space

Lol I thought the same about letting him out with some sassy mares

A herd of Shetland lol

Oh my gosh, that’s hysterical and so true! 😂 I was from the city side of my family, so I had the hunter ponies, my cousins had working horses that showed sometimes. Strictly speaking about cattle, which I know are in no way the same… Way back when, if people had show cattle that wouldn’t lead, they would tie it to a mule and by golly, at some point they figured it out. If you’re told to follow me, you’re better off following me. People would pay good money to rent a good mule! 😂 I’ve also heard of tying one to a tractor to teach it to lead. That may sound horrible, but tractors can go much slower than you think, aren’t going to lose the battle of strength and can take a head butt. Still, it was a last resort. All those stories certainly made me appreciate my pony more! 🫣😁

We had a colt that was barn named Randy. Because he was. He thot he was the isht, harassed all the mares, even before he was weaned, and was too sassy to respond to my mom when ground training happened. Wouldn’t come when called. Wouldn’t pay attention on a lead. Screamed at the mares like a stallion. And his balls still hadn’t dropped. Just a rude fellow. (Additional points of info, he was extremely well bred and a fantastic stud prospect. Otherwise he would have gotten a quick attitude changing operation. We stood 2 senior stallions and had 3 junior stallions, so Randy was for sale. But regardless of future life/job, every horse was expected to be mannerly.) So when he was about 14 months old, and she was done with his shenanigans Mom took the very pregnant and cranky boss mare from each herd, (3) put them in a quarter acre paddock, and before they started sorting out who would be boss mare of the boss mares, she tossed Randy in. Stepped outside and stood and watched, rope and halter over her shoulder. Oh Man! Randy was In Heaven! 3 beautiful ladies! He screamed his sexay stallion calls of love, and proceeded to prance towards their kerfuffle, oblivious to the fact that there was Important Mare Business being discussed. Maybe he thought the squeals of anger were squeals of love for him. He was so slow between his ears because he just knew every mare would feel blessed by him that he didn’t notice that at his first bellow three heads whipped around to him, 6 ears went back flat against necks, six nostrils flared, and 6 eyeballs became laser focused on him. It’s amazing how fast pregnant mares can reverse direction and charge with out becoming over balanced. Randy was a third of the way across the paddock when he realized he might have misjudged the situation… To his credit, he whirled and ran. Too late. They were on him in a flash. Upon arrival they spun around again, and proceeded to unloose both barrels, consecutively. BLAM BLAM BLAM! BLAM BLAM BLAM! And not just coordinated, but all while running backwards as he fled. Into a corner. Mom starts calling him. “Randy, want out? C’mere Randy…” Apparently not, as he squirted out from under the barrage and headed away from her. He kept circling and moving, avoiding angry mares, so he thought he was fine. Then came feeding time. He arrogantly headed to his trough, only to be beat up again and his feed eaten by 3 squabbling pregnant ladies. They also ran him away from the water until they were absolutely positive they were done. Same for hay. And every time he got near a corner, the ladies did their best to pummel him. They had become bonded through their mutual need to teach the creep a lesson. Several times a day Mom stood just inside the gate and called him. Only to be ignored. Hope lived on somewhere inside Randy that they did want his attentions. It took three days for him to figure out that, no, they did not, rude kid. On the third day, round noon, Mom found him standing by the gate, waiting for her (and dodging the occasional flying hoof if he didn’t move off fast enough.) She asked, “Randy, are you ready to come out now?” And yes! Yes he was! And can you take me out now? Please? I will behave I promise! And he did. (Incase anyone is worried, Mom obvs made sure he was as safe as possible. No one had shoes, most corners were rounded, he had places he could escape to if he wanted, etc.)

... a small group of buddies... does he have that possibility of an energy outlet? I do not want to judge, but lots of things are solved by herd dynamics, and the possibility of free movement. Mostly and sadly its not for high price sport horses.

You are so right,,horses don't start out this way ,, but when you have them boosted up by the Modern FEEDING routine,,they soon become unable to deal with confinment,,or pretty much anything .and yes I do have the 60plus years of breeding training etc;experience . Dressage is not the pinicale of expert training it once was ,, especially as the international standards for collected movement are ignored,, where the front line of the horses head is vertical,should only happen in airs above the ground ( and piaffe ) yet they are all overbent and contricted,,,,Also the break downs that happen in public ,reveal to anyone with experience ,the story behind in the training.All the money and glamour modern dressage is full of, is not enough to hide anything from people who know better. The trainers are just as bad ,because they want their job,,there are also huge insurance scams going on ,so yes dressage needs to take a long look at its self , because others are🤔🙏🐎

I now own a perfect example of this horse. Bred and sold for $200,000 as a yearling to race. Didn’t work out, long story short TB’s are bred adrenaline junkies, high energy workaholics, that need a job or an outlet. I end up getting a call, to take on a 7 yr old, I’m the 5thish owner, the mother calls me begging as she’s concerned he’s going to kill her daughter, he’s already put her in the hospital. They keep him in a stall 23 hours a day, he’s destroyed round pens, injured other horses (OTTB on a Warmblood/dressage boarding/training facility). They only handle him with a chain, he attacks from behind, charges, strikes, bites and it’s me or an auction. First thing I did was bring him home and turn him out in a 1 acre private paddock for 3 months where it was just him, me, my husband, his dinner routine in his outdoor paddock, daily brushing and his hay. But other than that, we just let him be a horse. Then we introduced him into our mixed herd (geldings and mares, he’s a gelding, we don’t do stallions). His private paddock was beside the main pasture where he could see and visit with the other horses, just separated by a double fence line and isle. So the knew each other existed. He challenged my one big warmblood mare day 3, (he’s a solid 16.3, she’s a stunning 17 hand of a fiery red lol) she dropped him like a hot potato with one hoof to the chest when he tried to take a bite out of her behind. The only thing injured on him was his pride, he’s been in love with her ever since, and went into training the following month. He’s now my husbands personal horse as he’s always had a special place for the high strung, super sensitive TB’s and his other similar TB is now 25 and also a former rescue. While J isn’t perfect and has his days, hubby gets him, and let’s him have them. But he’s a strong rider and just laughs them off lol, but he also doesn’t try to make him a show pony, something his last owners did, and J doesn’t have the mindset for it. But neither does hubby. You have to sometimes let the horse tell you who they are, and actually freaking listen. Sigh…..

What?

Poor poor horse. Stupid stupid humans. Can they not see how miserable this horse is? Did he choose this life?

@@Restlessgypzy fantastic job!! God bless you & your family for true horsemanship & saving that horse. He now has a beautiful life thanks to you beautiful people😇🙏🏼

It's these daft dressage people who think that they are automatons that is the problem. Nine years old, it can't even walk in hand, something it should know at six months old.

I had BaBy, trained to lead, to tie up, wear a harness, a saddle, a rug, load on a trailer,walk along roads in hand, swim in the river etc etc by the time she was a year old. Spend fifteen minutes per day per youngster, you never need to break them. When BaBy was living in a stable with his dam, in a freezing winter, we all went out to the loose school, with my other boy, and had an hour at walk, trot, canter, and small jumps, we all had great fun, and they all knew the basic verbal commands. They the had a few hours outside to relax, with some hay, so even though it was not possible to walk on icy roads they were fine.

You are so intuitive to needs of horses ❤

Bullshit, he needs to live naturally , he's been kept in a zoo, but in a smaller cage.

The horse is intelligent, whats wrong, with the rider, she has not enough experience handling horses. I used to work with racehorses, and the most badly behaved were those from amateur homes, they need to learn to behave and to work when asked, and otherwise allowed to be horses

Any horse I have had from birth has been an absolute joy. Those that I've taken from other people ,because at some time they have been mistreated, or confused. Once they have lost trust they will be very difficult. If this rider has doubts, and I have doubts she should find him a good home.

YES ! It made me cry to see the horses response !!!!

Yes, I'm absolutely agree. Thanks e-net I can watch it in St Petersburg Russia

I will have to say my boy isnt that bad at all but i see some things in this i am deffently going to take back and work with my boy. He can be a handful at times. He doesnt get rode everyday and is getting borded so some of these training idears i think we could really learn together with. And i have another going back under saddle full of energy and was a bit worryied and now i feel like i have a way to manage things a bit. I have been rideing sence the age of 5 but theres always someone that can teach me more. ❤

I think this goes well beyond groundwork. My stallion can yield any part of his body like a snake, is super responsive to all cues and even when highly excited a simple gesture will send him steadily trotting arond me instead of fighting, but although all that makes him safe to lead in any situation, it does not make him feel as good about himself as this horse shows in the end of the session. I have only done some preliminary TRT work with my stud and already I see a huge difference in crossing spooky stuff: he willingly lowers his own neck and tries to relax himself without any help from me! He also tries to get his head low when too excited about a mare scent. He still rears more than I wish he did, but its a slow motion lower energy stunt now... getting them self aware is a miracle worker.

you might need to study more than if the only thing you took from it was teaching horse a lesson... horse is an animal, the only lesson taught was to the owner who created and escalated this disrespectful behaviour. I love reading comments like that and than listening about bad horses and magnificent owners... uneducated owner to have a horse at 9yo which can't even yield its hindquarters- my foals at 7months know how to do that... uneducated people and very very poor horses.... feel sorry for your horses if this is a conclusion you have drawn out of it.... depressing really.

@@butwhatisreality sometimes it is handling, and sometimes it is genetics. I appreciate the vulnerability (rather than arrogance) of owner to ask for help…a true demonstration of horsemanship.

Absolutely agree!

Also a fan of Ryan rose, but some of this is very interesting too!

Have you watched Jake on the Pear Tree Ranch channel? And I’ve come to really appreciate Steve Young.

Yes! I love Jake's art of the circle, and Steve had a no nonsense approach I like as well.

I adored Black Beauty! I was 12 (1974) years old then, glued to the TV at 5:30 every Sunday afternoon ( I'm 61 years old now and still remember what time it was on!!😂) Without him I would never have met my Angel.(13 years later) We were together for nearly 16 years. I always remember my mum saying "We'll see how long it lasts" when my Dad bought me my first pony back in 1975. My Girl crossed the Rainbow 🌈😢 over 20 years ago at the grand age of 27. So much Loved and Missed 😍. I also had small pets and looked after every one myself. Today I still have pets. 3 Guinea Pigs and a Hamster. My Mum and I have a chuckle about 'how long it's lasted'!! 😂

Try Warwick Schiller.. his attuned horsemanship is connect first relationship second.. this horse has been abuse according to the horse's thinking.. he knows he's caught.. and listen eventually be cause he has to.. not because he wants too.

@@audreye7078 I've watched and met a lot of the natural horsemanship guys. They're all excellent in their methods. I've watched a lot of Ryan Rose recently on RU-vid and I have to say he may be the best at explaining things to us and the horse both. My girl has come a long way and we're still trucking. We have a clear path forward but it will always be a trial. ❤️

Warwick is not a natural horsemanship any longer.. he has moved on since he took his own improvement journey and discovered our needs are very similar to horses and likely all animals.. natural horseman.. this guy included ends up with learned helplessness and shut down to a degree that they seem very docile and well trsined.. but they've tuned out in live because they can't handle the stress and that is one of the primary coping mechanism.. avoid the unpleasant repercussions by doing absolutely nothing until told what to do.. If your fine with that and not ready for one on one relationship with a sentient being with its own set of cultural, emotional and intellectual needs.. that's ok.. we all aren't.. it requires really hard look at our own fallacies and willingness to work on our own faults and needs.. to truly understand the position we've put the horse in. Their herd basic hierarchy is what we tend to base current training methods on.. being able to develop a freedom based,c where the horse chooses to interact and is free to say no can be quite difficult for our own psyche.. but itvis quite possible be cause I learned from someone who let his horses teach him.. whenvthey choose you over the herd because you make them feel safe, teach them how to understand words and short phrases that help them be good horse/human citizens and stimulate their intellectual capacity.. then it becomes so much more than a horse that needs to be trained to be useful.

@@audreye7078 So you're now attacking me and claiming that I am abusing my horse into learned helplessness. I'd appreciate it if you went out to the barn and attacked people face to face and perhaps leave alone people on the internet that you've never met! You don't know me or my horse. We're doing great. She has a personality and I'll never shut that down. There is NOT one way to train or work with a horse - there are many and many are correct, kind and create lasting partnerships. 90% of of horsemanship of any discipline or type requires the human to be HUMBLE. Try it sometime, you need the practice.

@@topolinofarm9343 i didn't attack you.. the consequences are fact.. years ago it was considered orooer and some still do, to just truss up a horse..sadke them..bet them loise and buck them out.. inthe mudfke ages horses were hirtiblyvtorturedvinto submission.. they did know better and neither did we until recently. I am exposing you to the current training and what trained etioligists have determined m inedvit causes and what the attuned methods are now showing us what that method brings out in our relationship with the horse. You lashing out at that prospect is a natural reaction. Do what you want with the information. Your were not attacked. Merely an attempt to awaken you to a new possibility.

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I think these skilled, tuned-trainers do have something more than their techniques. The way they flow their energy is admirable.