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The HP 110 Portables and the (somewhat) DOS-incompatible HP 9114 Floppy Drive 

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@excessionary
@excessionary 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, there is very little information on RU-vid about these old HP portables. Great video!
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 10 месяцев назад
My pleasure!
@AdrianuX1985
@AdrianuX1985 Год назад
8:00.. I know they are different technologies, but when I first saw the name "HP-IL" I remembered the name "HP ILO". ;-)
@Anangelspath
@Anangelspath Год назад
Great story subscribed
@crabdonkey6381
@crabdonkey6381 Год назад
xmodem, zmodem or kermit would be used with the RS-232 to transfer files to an external computer. The non-standard RS-232 may be to be a receiving mode as opposed to host mode.
@AdrianuX1985
@AdrianuX1985 Год назад
At first I thought I had confused the YT channel. ;-))
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
Surpriiiise 🎉😂
@AdrianuX1985
@AdrianuX1985 Год назад
0:16.. I wonder if the concept of transmitting the TCP/IP protocol over radio waves was already in the minds of engineers in the early 1980s.
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
I would imagine so, that this was already in some heads at the time. TCP/IP prototypes go back to the 70s, although IPv4 came to standards only in I think 1983-ish. Mobile evolution with 1G and 2G came to standard terms in the very early ninetines, and soon after introduced packet communication, although with a meager 9600 bits in the first iterations. But mobile networks pre-G1 ("G0") already existed since the 70s. And, as far as WiFi data communication technology goes, it was IIRC demonstrated in the early 70s as well. So I believe the concepts were surely known at the time, though no actual use-case had yet materialized, and technology was also not yet ready.
@AdrianuX1985
@AdrianuX1985 Год назад
@@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Seriously, the concept of transmitting digital data over radio waves dates back to the early 1970s??
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
@@AdrianuX1985 Yes, it was called ALOHAnet. It's certainly not what we think of WiFi networks today, but somewhat a distant precursor technology. And some of the ethernet characteristics we still use today date back to this original concept.
@computeraidedworld1148
@computeraidedworld1148 Год назад
Your channel name made me laugh, very creative
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
Thanks 😅
@AdrianuX1985
@AdrianuX1985 Год назад
2:24.. Have you tried archiving this antique on "WEB ARCHIVE"?
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
Nope, as it's propably archived already on the www.hpmuseum.org/ I didn't check though, TBH.
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
Actually it all seems there on www.hpmuseum.org/software/swcdp.htm, available for purchase on CD/DVD for 38$ (=contribution to the operating costs)
@HTMLEXP
@HTMLEXP Год назад
This may also explain why ACT's Apricot PC format 3.5 inch disks are not compatible with the IBM disk format, as the Apricot PC was developed in 1983. The Apricot PC also ran MS-DOS 2.11 and CP/M-86
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
Yeah, it's well possible. Don't have an Apricot, so I never dug into that topic. But I have another machine here, which came in the same period with 3.5" drives, and originally with MS-DOS 2.11 as well. It too, when running MS-DOS 2.11 has floppy interop issues, but works just fine when using a later release of MS-DOS 3.2.
@asanjuas
@asanjuas Год назад
i think the formats work well for the CP/M-86 and PCP/M 86(Personal CP/M 86)
@AdrianuX1985
@AdrianuX1985 Год назад
4:18.. I wonder if it would be possible to login to a computer with, for example, Debian via the RS-232 connector? Terminal session from HP 110 to Linux Debian.
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
Yeah, that is hopefully possible. There‘s a Kermit version specific for the 110, I will need to look into it. I‘m curious as well.
@AdrianuX1985
@AdrianuX1985 Год назад
8:18.. I would like to see how the mentioned devices interacted with the calculators.
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
I‘d think very much like in the same way as the floppy drive. You configure it‘s presence. Like for the floppy, telling in config there is 1 (up to 3 floppy drives sre supported), and then you can start using it. I‘d assume for printers and other extensions it woulf be likewise. Can‘t demo it, as the only HP-IL devices I currently have is three shown in the video. Would love to get though the HP-92 (www.hpmuseum.org/hp92.htm), my father had this one, with many accessories. Though everything thrown away in the years…
@asanjuas
@asanjuas Год назад
The topic of the floppy drive is for a second part not? right? right???
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
@asanjuas If you're referring to the open point of the SYDEX drivers, yes. I intend to do a follow-up on this topic.
@asanjuas
@asanjuas Год назад
@@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR i appreciate that. Of course i want a video on the topic of DR-DOS even Concurrent DOS 386.
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Год назад
@@asanjuas there will be, there will be!
@asanjuas
@asanjuas Год назад
@@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Thank you very much!!
@AdrianuX1985
@AdrianuX1985 Год назад
+1
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