You know what my take is, remove La Fidéle, remove the whole Le Jour D'Amour crap, and just make a mirror version of the first movie, by having Sarousch be the gypsy Frollo, where he has similar motivation to Frollo, but in reverse, and it would be out of retaliation (essentially a sort of humans vs mutants type storyline). I can't think of how Madellaine would fit, but I would have her had a similar role to Quasimodo in the first where she's been fed with all these false accusations of people, and when she sees Quasimodo living among the humans, she'll be surprised to find a deformed hunchback living peacefully, and Quasi would be her Esmeralda, as he would teach her what Esmeralda have taught him, which would make her question Sarousch's Philosophy in the same way Quasi had questioned Frollo's, which would soon eventually lead to her turning against him in the end, and decided to be with Quasimodo, romantically as they've gone through similar experiences. I know this sounds like a beat for beat retelling of the first, but if they want to make a movie solely for the reason of Quasimodo a love interest, they could have gone with that take, but I guess RaiserBlade's take would've been fine I guess, if they aren't gonna try to repeat themselves.
Five reasons why I don't like this sequel. 1: the tone is too light hearted 2: the new clothes on Quasimodo look ridiculous. 3: the animation is a down grade even if it's decent. 4: the characters are dumb downed and the new ones have no development. 5: NO ONE asked for this sequel to exist 😲
May I add something? The animation isn't even decent. And Quasi's clothes are suposed to be seen as ridiculous even in-universe by other characters... But then why did the movie market the heck out of the new clothes?
Oh also, I hate the love-stuttered protagonist stumbling like this. I hate it here, I hated it in Big Hero 6 the series, & even in good movies(The Goofy Movie) it gets annoying. Like, I get it, people do feel awkward around a girl, especially when both love each other, but it’s odd that most shows(Gargoyles, Class of Titans, & Avatar) we’re able to create convincing scenes of people trying to show love to each other, but both have trouble showing it. Love-Stuttered Protagonists, Twist Villains, & Fake Out Deaths are the most annoying trends in media.
This is the best way to describe the bell in The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q19Zd3gGDUE.html So with that said, those that should also go to hell are the people that whine that Drake’s ex-girlfriend Melissa Lingafelt (and that other accuser with her aunt who would have known that Drake was gonna go Dan Schneider on her) lied to us about him beating her up (re: raping her, punching her and screaming at her like Josh Peck’s character in MC m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--LAEDwpKxRw.html).
One thing I liked about the Gargoyles in the first movie is the implication that they are Quasi's guardian angels. Since it's implied that God let Lucifer get Frollo's soul, why not imply that God sent three guardian angels to Quasimodo, especially since Frollo kinda, sorta killed someone on the steps of a majestic cathedral named after the Queen of Heaven.
I mean, they helped in the fight against the siege of the cathedral. I would be more inclined to agree if it didn’t show Hugo having this cringy obsession with the goat. But yeah, I don’t like how they changed the gargoyles’ physical nature in the sequel to them being actually alive, despite they can’t do that around Esmerelda or Phoebus
Well, technically the Gargoyles kinda did originate from the book, albeit from this quote from it: “He therefore turned to mankind only with regret. His cathedral was enough for him. It was peopled with marble figures of kings, saints and bishops who at least did not laugh in his face and looked at him with only tranquillity and benevolence. The other statues, those of monsters and demons, had no hatred for him - he resembled them too closely for that. It was rather the rest of mankind that they jeered at. The saints were his friends and blessed him; the monsters were his friends and kept watch over him. He would sometimes spend whole hours crouched before one of the statues in solitary conversation with it. If anyone came upon him then he would run away like a lover surprised during a serenade.”
@@nathancruz9172 The only Disney DTV Sequels that I love are The Return of Jafar, Aladdin and The King of Forty Thieves, Pooh's Grand Adventure The Search For Christopher Robin and The Buzz LightYear of Star Command Movie. All other Disney DTV Cheapquels SUCK
I'll be Petty. They made esmeralda's eyes blue in some parts and her eyes in the first movie are DEEP GREEN she's named after the (or one of) the greenest mineral EVER. As for Madeline, she isn't even half the woman Esmeralda is.
Don’t forget how Esmeralda’s skin tone is hella inconsistent in this movie too and gets a lot lighter in some shots to the point she looks hella whitewashed
I never really noticed the whitewashing of Clopin and Esmeralda, since they play with the lighting so much that Quasimodo's bright red hair looks jet black in some scenes, but I just can't ignore Esmeralda's *green* eyes being *blue* now! And she has a ton more personality than Madeline, as you said! Disney, you really dropped the ball, here. But I can't lie, the end credits song is beautiful to me. It's no "God, Help the Outcasts," but it's beautiful. That's what I remember loving about this one as a kid. The animation? 👎 The story? 😑 The music? 😓 That song, in particular? 🥲
@@PhoenixJohnson29I’d argue Clopin was so much worse. His skin is pasty white in comparison to his clearly dark skin tone as a Romani man. Plus I feel he lost all of his eccentric yet fun personality and became so bleh in this movie. Doesn’t help he barely appeared at all. The biggest thing that drove me nuts about Es was the fact her hair lost all its curls and volume she had before, her hair looks more wavy and skimpy. Plus I absolutely hate how she lost all her fun and feisty personality and basically became so judgmental towards her husband and never apologized for wrongfully accusing him
It's a trapdoor. A trapdoor under the bell that leads all the way down to the catacombs. Thing is, how does Quasimodo, living in the Cathedrale NOT KNOW of it, and how does Sarouche actually know? Are even small children expected to believe that Sarouche created the trapdoor? That's what I hated about that scene. Not the pretence of magic. The dumbass of it. Also, Zephyr existed for one reason - to be a small child that looks remarkably like his father.
What is worse is the implications of said trapdoor on the first movie. I mean getting Esmerelda out of the tower in the first movie was a major plot point. As was finding the Court of Miracles which was in the catacombs.
I heard somewhere the reason why they made Zephyr a child version of Phoebus, literally having no Romani traits, was to prove it was Phoebus’s child. Who the h*ll is gonna assume Frollo managed to get Esmerelda in bed when he literally asked her before she spat in his face, basically telling him to go f*ck himself?
Nah. The part with the disappearing elephant I’m still not getting, not to mention most of the circus tricks performed by Saruge isn’t even close to actual circus tricks from back then. Maddie said there was a tunnel under the stage, but how the heck did the elephant get through the tiny platform it was standing on?? Also the stage is NOT that freaking tall even for a small Asian elephant to fit under. The whole explanation of how he got the bell out with the same trick is just a bunch of hooey. At least with Esmerelda’s disappearing acts it clearly showed her using dust as a smoke screen and also using a big robe for dramatic effect while she slipped away. Frollo simply didn’t understand how either trick worked (which is the entire f*cking point of it being a MAGIC trick) and actually believed she was a witch. As for Zephyr, I don’t find him as annoying as everyone else does, aside he is pretty loud and noisy. But I don’t get why Disney didn’t do ANYTHING with him being half Romani as well as being half French. Why did he just become the child version of Phoebus??
Imagine how poor Haley Joel Osment felt after watching this movie. He was 9 when when he recorded the lines for Zephyr but 14 when the movie actually came out. If I were him I would’ve cringed so hard.
It’s 50/50% The creators stated that they are part of Quasimodo’s imagination due to him being lonely, but also you have a valid point, however it’s kinda unconfirmed if they are or not.
Yeah the Jason Alexander gargoyle ate some stones and then just started flying like an airplane, spitting the rocks like machine guns on an airplane at the soldiers. I was certainly wishing they weren’t real. But that moment proves they are unfortunately real.
I’ve heard theory’s that say when that defended the castle it was just dumb like (like old bricks and stuff falling off the walls) and qausi’s imagine that it was done by the gargoyles
I don’t think they are. Part of it is Frollo NEVER questioned why they weren’t outside on the architecture with the other gargoyles, he simply asked Quasi why he was talking to a bunch of rocks. Plus the part Esmerelda is running after Quasi in the belltower and they try encouraging him to not run from her, somehow she doesn’t hear them?? Only part I have a gripe with (aside them clearly helping defend Notre Dame in the finale) is Hugo’s weird crush on Jolly the goat. It doesn’t even say as to how they became alive or why the other gargoyles can’t do that. The only other one that comes alive is the one Frollo stands on before falling to his death, and many have argued it was perhaps divine intervention and God Himself made the gargoyle alive to show Frollo the true nature of his heart
This movie sucked so bad that I made my own version with Quasimodo paired up with an OC because Madellaine is SOOOO BOOOOOORIIIINGG!!!!! She's nice but that's about it that's her ONLY personality trait! Fanfics were better than the actual sequel! At least the fans actually care about the story and characters than trying to appease the part of the fandom that bitched about Quasi not getting the girl at the end. Edit 1/15/20: And why the focus on Quasi getting a love interest in the first place? It's kinda weird given his actor is gay IRL; they COULD have made a storyline where he discovers more about his mother. Maybe he finds out he has more relatives. But NOPE they had to push the love interest trope instead. As for the villains, literally an OC or another character like Frollo's brother or Fleur-de-Lys would have been way better than Sarousch. Heck the concept of Sarousch was wasted as it could have shown that evil isn't just restricted to wealthy religious zealots, that anyone regardless of ethnicity or class can be a malicious jerkass.
I bought the movie in 2003 after a year of anticipation, as the first Hunchback was at the time one of my favourites movies ever. Even then, at 12 years old, I remember thinking the animation was as ugly as a badly restored old animated movie, and I found it so bland I didn't even finish it.
They should have made her part of the circus "freak show". Maybe made her frustrated because she just wanted to do the tight rope but she's just a "freak". Her and the other "freaks" don't want to steal but they have no choice because they can't live in normal society. That way you can keep the "don't judge the circus folk" arc. They see Quasi accepted and want to live honestly showing not all of them are actually bad. Quasi and her can bond maybe even have conflicting views because he lived a isolated life while she lived a life of being treated like a prop for people to stare or mock. It would have made the Madeline's relationship mirroring Quasimodo's theme they seem to be going for make more sense because she has no choice but to live with the circus making her trapped in a cage of her own. I dunno could have at least ran with the "looking past appearances to see the real person" angle they dropped the ball on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Disney's original HunchBack of Notredame is a MASTERPIECE in my opinion But it get's 9 out 10 ********* because The song A Guy Like You Sucks I do however think that The Gargoyles are really good comic relief To bad the sequel nerfs The Gargoyles and makes their characters FUCKING UNBEARABLE The sequel nerfs everyone and makes everyone UNBEARABLE
Hunchback was my first move, and when I saw this, I was horrified. I actually wrote a whole sequel myself with a new version of Madelline (she was actually the little girl from the first movie after a few years) and there was hypnotism involved and my girl had a facial deformity.
I honestly liked the Gargoyles in the first film, and I do like some of their humor and the song they sang (despite happening at a REALLY bad time). Say what you want about them, but they at least helped drive the story forward and encouraged Quasimodo to disregard Frollo's orders by going outside, basically they were my Timon and Pumbaa. What did this sequel do to the 3 of them!?
Technically Laverne and Victor weren’t annoying and actually did have some good and encouraging moments with Quasi. But Hugo is straight up annoying and is the typical fat guy who loves to eat, has rude manners, cracks stupid jokes and makes sexist comments. The song a Guy Like You isn’t 100% terrible, but its definitely so ill timed in the movie and kinda uses French stereotypes regarding love. Only part of that song I actually enjoyed and laughed at was the part with the saints snapping their fingers, everything else was just dumb, especially with Hugo dressing up as Esmerelda 🤮
I was very young when this movie came out and I watched it like it was nothing. Obviously I watched the 1st movie without knowledge of genocide and lusty sexual desire (was born in '95). I realized how much I LOVE the first movie more than any other Disney animated movie (not including Pixar) and have huge HATRED for this trash of a sequel... This is probably the sequel I hate the most because of how great the first movie was. I just heard (I'm a year late) that Disney is doing a live-action remake. While I'm already scared they might ruin the movie, hopefully they do take more liberties and include more elements from Victor Hugo's book. Don't be too safe, but don't be too "out there" (see what I did there...?) I know Disney for the most part appeals to kids with the exception of Zootopia, but it wouldn't hurt for them to include more "adult storytelling." It probably could make a big difference someday. This was long post but I never have people to really vent to about Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." Great and funny review RaisorBlade! Thank you! 👍
I have an idea: in regards to Phoebus's racism, what if he was made the true antagonist instead of Sarouche? Like he ends up becoming Frollo? In a more misguided way.
Still better than Hunchback 2 and the Mulan remake (then again, anything is. M2 still sucks tho, even if it can only be given credit where credit is due).
I appreciated the gargoyles only in the sadly unknown German musical (later adapted in English, with beautiful new songs by Alan Menken), where they are just a figment of Quasimodo's mind and they're funny but also a great tool to explain the thoughts of Quasimodo.
Zephyr is about six or so in this movie, and wasn't even conceived yet in the end of the original. So shouldn't the girl seen at both the ending of the original and the opening song here be about 12 or 13, and thus participating in the festival in some way, by the sequel's opening song?
It's ironic that Hayley Joel Osment is in this movie since it came out the same year as Kingdom Hearts and 10 years later we got a Hunchback of Notre Dame world in a Kingdom Hearts game.🔔🐐🎪🕹
“In this action-packed adventure” 😂😂😂 That’s a good one, considering that there IS no action in this movie! Also, when Zephyr tells Sarousch that his dad is the captain of the guard, my only reaction was “😒You stupid idiot.”
I find it hilarious that Disney has never, and most likely will never, understand or show that it really is not what's on the outside that matters (especially with their mary sues and "pretty" remakes now), but Dreamworks got it in, what, their 3rd or 4th movie? Shrek did what Disney will never understand.
By the time this movie takes place, everyone is Quasi’s friend and they’ve gotten used to him. He shouldn’t have a problem going to the circus to see Madeleine. But I guess they needed a conflict and they used a rehash of the plot from the original.
Sarousch would have been an interesting villain if he did practice legit witchcraft. Would make him a more compelling villain and more of a legit threat compared to Frollo.
Ok but can we all agree that the Jennifer Love Hewitt song made for this films soundtrack is possibly the best product of this thing. I will continue to pretend to not know where the song comes from.
I actually kinda like 2 of the gargoyles. The fat one brings the others down but the other two are mostly funny and helpful. Also your idea on how to fix the movie would be too much for a disney sequal like this. We don't come for quality, we come to laugh lol
First of all, the main villain in _this_ reminds me more of Silence of the Lambs. Y'know, "Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me." Second of all, why should he bother to go steal... whatever it was he's after when he can potentially set his assistant up to take the fall should she fail to deliver and get caught? That's my theory on what he's up to, anyway.
15:21 that girl doesnt deserve to be in this ugly movie her quality just looks so good that she looks like she doesn't fit in with that movies horrible quality and writing
My personal analysis: I felt like your humor was kind of hit or miss, but that your character and plot ideas are really interesting and would work really well, so I "liked" the video. I think you could become really popular if you made videos breaking down the flaws of bad movies and shows, and came up with alternate stories and characters that would work well. Maybe come up with two or three possibilities for each video, and have people discuss in the comments which one they preferred. Just a thought, because I was really impressed with your ideas here.
What does Disney have against Halye Joe Osment? They had him as Chip in "Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas", and in "Belle's Magical World", they had him as Zephyr in this sequel, and as a fucking bear in "The Country Bears", which came out the same year this movie came out.
I actually kinda like Quasimodo's song here. I know it's not at all as grand as "Out there", but it still has a cute melody and it kinda continue what he felt in the first movie, that he wanted someone to love him. :)
*The Hunchback of Notre Dame II - AniMat’s Classic Reviews (aka “The Worst Disney Sequel - The Hunchback of Notre Dame II Review”)* *Release* November 5, 2021 *Description* Yuck *Score* Story: 1 Animation: 3 Characters: 3 Songs: 3 *2.5/10*
I have to agree. I watched this movie and its really bad, it doesn't have the music I've always loved and half of the songs are pretty bad. Just don't watch this movie you guys should watch the original.
I remember seeing Mrenter's review on this movie, and hopefully your review on it is good too. I haven't seen this movie, but it does sound pretty stupid.
Well, one of the Fridays of this month is the perfect day if you want to see them at the same time (a watch-a-thin of deservedly unfavourable reviews of one of the worst Disney movies), whichever one he will review it (I predict a few days later on 11/5/2021).
This was really well done, and gave me a ,, much better insight on the movie without watching it myself. Haha. You made some REALLY good points and you sound like you know exactly what youre talking about
i really hate these kinds of sequels I'm referring to the one's that literally only exist to give the main character a love interest movie's like despicable me 2 the santa claus 2 and that frosty the snowman sequel they all just automatically assume you can't be happy unless you're in love well i guess this movie's very existence satisfies the people who whined on the internet about Quasimodo not getting with esmeralda despite saving her ignoring one of the theme's of that movie and that esmeralda isn't a sexy lamp for Quasimodo and that's basically frollos mindset these kinds of sequels also have the same mindset as that episode of the fairly oddparents
Cause Disney probably hates his guts. He was Chip in the Beauty and the Beast sequels, and was a anthropomorphic bear in "The Country Bears" which came out the same year this sequel came out.
I won't say that it's worst than Belle Magical World; yeah Quasimodo, Esmeralda and the others are useless or dumbs but at least they aren't as stupid as the Beast. Also, the animation is better than in Belle's magical world for sure! The songs are more memorable and represent what the characters's feel. They are horrible but there's a few efforts in them unlike in the garbage prequel. Another thing, the Beast is a jerk; even more than in the first movie. He treated Belle like crap, constantly complains on dumb things, almost beat her for no reasons and isn't sincere. He loose all his kindness and charm as well U-U Quasimodo is ok in the sequel; really creepy and stupid however not as much as the Beast.
You basically had me with “LET’S MAKE THE SEQUEL ABOUT A CIRCUS!” And I never even reeeeealllyyyy hated this movie thaaaat much. It’s terrible, I mean it’s truly terrible, but I had it on the other night while playing Dreamlight Valley, and it was the perfect combination of “I don’t need to actually look at the screen” and “I don’t need to actually pay attention or listen!” …Actually maybe I would have been just as well off if I had a blank screen going. Love the review though and subbed
Is no one gonna mention how the second movie had 10x worse animation than the first? It looked like some cheap TV series that would come before the original movie!
As bad as the animation quality of this movie, this is not even Disney TV animation standard, because even Disney's TV cartoons of the time have way better animation than this - instead it's on par with the cheap direct-to-video animated mockbusters like the ones from Golden Films.
The film is animated by Walt Disney Animation Studio Japan (same studio who animated 18 episodes of Gargoyles). This explains why the animation reminds me of Gargoyles so much. Now getting to the actual film itself, the film is straight up garbage. It was an insult to The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
I think the gargoyles were real considering how they interacted with others in the first movie, including fighting Flodo's men in the climax, or the goat noticing one of them coming to life.
