The Idol is worse than you could possibly imagine... 

no

how this comment 1 day ago?

@@pi3.14etc lol

​@@pi3.14etcyoutubers can release their video in advance of releasing it publicly

@@elzzz2000 ohh k thanks

I mean women through trauma might say that but it’s weird cuz it’s written by a male

@@pde8444I literally doubt that

@@lilydamian1477 idk. I am a woman and have been w sus men due to vulnerability and have said something along those lines sometimes. Which is not good.

​@@pde8444You're right, I believe I've read somewhere in psychology about that

@@xbluebirdx yeah like one time a guy said something bad and for some reason it turned me on and that’s how I realized I’m super fucked up. So it definitely is true.

absolutely and the way hes responded to the very valid criticism makes him seem like a 7th grade boy who just discovered the word “roasting” for the first time

@@sk3lut yea Rolling Stones did warn us

In the rolling stone article one of the people they interviewed said that the weeknd was barely there and barely participated in the writing if he even participated at all so the fact alone that the weeknd most probably didnt even participate in the writing and still had his name in the credits it's just a wtf? Cause it ain't like anyone would like to be credited as a script writer with that "stretch that tiny little p*ssy" 💀

He should have just stuck to singing

I've never heard of his music. I just know him from that meme of him looking lost while walking through those hallways. 😅

Omg I was reading about that. It would’ve been more interesting as a female perspective. I feel like Jocelyn is a character written by a man and she has no real personality.

@@juliehayden123the whole show reeks of a woman having nothing in her mind but trauma and is too happy to show her tits to anything with eyes. Not surprised to know it was directed by the same guy who directed Euphoria.

It wasn't written by a woman, Amy Semeitz was supposed to direct it, but I don't think she wrote it. I read it was Tesfaye's story from the start. There's a lot of hearsay going around anyway. I only hope that if it was THAT good and thought-provoking, it wouldn't have been scrapped. Guess we'll never know.

I mean the show is based on a female…so why not be from her pov

Tbh even if that's true, it was still very bad from the beginning

For real

Then dont watch it there is literly tags for every movie about nudity and violene

@@nqmaznachenie woooosh

@@Yasmine-mm1yc if that’s true then it shouldn’t be an exception, and I agree with you that it’s wrong

​​​@@Yasmine-mm1yc woman walk around with their private parts showing also. It's only illegal for straight men. It should be illegal for everyone though.

I mean all romance movies since twilight are basically that

Broken*

So it's like the Boring guy meets manic pixie girl?

@@javierlopez9789 I hate how right you are

For once I'd like to see a couple where they are both obviously insane

right? all that money , time, wasted and so much controversy just for it to be boring

Agree at the end of the day the worst "sin" od a show is being boring

I Watch it to crack on it lol. The show is ridiculously bad. It’s basically a long soft porno with The Weeknd’s music on the background every 5 minutes.

Yes! I've found is so long and boring 😂😅

This show is so boring that watching D'Angelo summarize it was boring. And I've never found him unentertaining.

Lol

Dude Tedros seems like a big loser I'm so sorry

Frr the cringey “are you lost baby girl” is suddenly more creative and interesting compared to the lazy “hello angel” haha

I know

wash you mouth to talk about the masterpiece that 365 is close to this shit

As much as I wanna agree, why would any actress agree to even deliver those lines? I think the female actors should take part of the blame too. But yeah, still equally disgusting.

The top search women make on porn sites is "rape fantasy" but let's pretend that isn't part of women's sexuality

Unfortunately there are women that have openly stated that they find it sexy, even on the news.

​@@freespeechchampsusanwojcic2528exactly, don't forget their sick romantic novels like 50 shades, and how millions of women fall for serial killers.

@@thecensoredmuscle563 see, the thing is these kinds of people (because quite frankly this can happen with both sides and I've seen it happen) usually romantise it because they are (again usually, not all the time) so touch starved that they begin to think its actually ok, which is a whole other pile of unsolved mental problems that if it was physical it would be a practically a island made of garbage and doesn't help that usually in young adult books they put in stuff like rape and abuse but "make it seem just fine" which in turn makes those people who read them become desensitised to it I will never understand the people who think its ok if I'm honest

Zendaya IS an actress! wym

What is going to happen with episode 6 will it still air at a later date

Everyone on euphoria can act, zendaya was only the star in the first season, Sydney took it to another level.

@@souldiving4197 how is the idol

Hiring someone with acting experience tends to be a better decision. It's not that some singers can't act, but the weekend is not one of them.

Wow, very well said. And it's actually a very sad realization...

Not shocking given his track record with Euphoria

But breasts are just breasts. Men can be topless and women should be able to aswell. It's a sexist doubles standard. Breasts shouldn't be sexualised and censored in this way. It's oppressive

@@user-bq2ko2tb2wso a woman can go shirtless on the beach like a man?

Which part

@@Hello-ix5qo18:40

Yeah despite her shitty acting

bro i was scrolling the comments to see if he said anything about jennie thank god bro didnt get traumatized by blinks

@@ayaanqazitrBut it’s not like he was lying. But of course, you probably prefer mr rapey and ms cheekbones

Now it'll be "still a better love story than the idol"

I mean whoa but also yeah. And sadly.

but who's watching all those shows that worse than twillight like cmon

Arguably oh hoe the turn tables is more fitting 😂

To be fair after watching this garbage I consider 50 shades a well written movie XDDD

Wow wtf bro

Wow, no wonder it sucks. I would have liked to see the original.

Heck yeah, the way its supposed to be done 🎉

But isn't Jocelyn FEMALE ?? It's better if a woman writes it, there's no man than can understand a woman better than a woman

@@usernotfound7481 Edgy

Its similar to "trauma porn"

Billie eilish would approve that quote

​@@michaelelohiminnocentmadia8128 Real😵

We all cringed

"Mental illness is sexy". Anyone who has seen or visited skid row: not sure about that one chief.

Pain.

Unfortunately, most likely a child molester. I bet they all thought they hit good with that one. Smh.

Same. My mouth fell open. How would someone laugh at that? Was the idea to laugh? Yeesh

Time stamp?

@@breeandmegs6156 just watch the video. I'm not rewatching to tell u when to watch. Lol. Gtfo.

@@breeandmegs6156 16:25

Agreed. He’s so gross and creepy

@Ks-101 Giving me Sangwoo vibes

NOT SANGWOO LMFAO

Fr

exactly

Maybe it was him

Hope someone called an ambulance and got him the help he needed lmao

Wtf That Is Really Insane I Am Dlying All lot What That Drunk Guy Say Jennie Is The Main Character In Idol Bro I Found it Ridiculous All lot

I like blackpink but sry her acting can only work on drunk people😂

Kpoppers are running the rumor that she is gonna be nominated for an Emmy; and they are also saying that if she doesn't win it is because they "Hate her because she is pretty and not American". I wish I was joking, I worry for the future of the world with these 12 year olds.

😂😂😂

Lol

Oh damn, that has got to be the biggest roast to a show I've ever heard 😅

It’s okay. Depp will do another Tim Burton film and buy her a new show

Her ass can though 🥴

And rat tail

My biggest flex is that I never liked the weekend as an artist and now even less as an actor 😭😭

​@@suatalunathe rat tail makes me so angry at him omg. I can never forgive him for that plague he unleashed on Earth😢

@@suatalunafor real. He looked much better with short hair

@@therailfan8947 i mean i can actually tolerate/like the pineapple🍍 he had on his head but this is atrocity

Nah he's not even a good musician. He worked with a lot of classic french producers to make some great music, but that was because of them, not him. So many misogynistic lyrics and utter lack of self awareness. Also his later stuff is just straight up bad.

@@DhruvMongabro doesn’t know music 💀

Ok,Ik I may seem biased,but I am a long time The Weekend fan his music is pretty good,when the weekend has full on creative control,he makes sum pretty good shirt films

She wasn't a victim. Watch it again

There were no victims in this show. it turns out she knew he was crazy but wanted to have more trauma so she could make better music.

​@@nibirueWait what? That actually happens in the show??

@@-lee-2867 Yes. The last episode showed this. It was honestly a stupid ending IMO.

@@nibirueright! I was like you mean to tell me she lied about the abuse from her mother and got off on hurting herself and the people around her? That’s sick

NO BUT FRRR

He wanted to be in a "bad guy" edit so bad💀 or like, a y/n thing

He wanted to be edited in a Lana or chase Atlantic song so bad🤌

@@Taylorc0de the only song for him is put me in a movie cus it's about a predator😬😬

He wanted his own Dahmer edits😂😂😂

I mean as silly as the Twilight movies are the cast is actually good and Rob Patinson never took himself that seriously 😭

And Christian Grey.

​@@collinkeyser6827woah woah woah let's not take it that far 😂

I hate how people made that his entire character, the poor guy hated it and is actually a competent actor, even he regrets getting the role 😮‍💨

@@Ditto.007 I don't think he should regret it, it allowed him to get other roles that he likes more ! He is a great actor I'm sure most people agree with that.

💯💯💯 🤣🤣🤣

Is it supposed to be a comedy?

​@@DebNKY I don't see any comedy in this show just bad writing and acting

Euphoria really has its moments where I think it’s good but there’s still so many glaring problems with it that it’s hard to overlook.

It's sick that the show is almost decent till tedros rat tail comes on the screen

i guess somethings wrong with me because i like this a little more than euphoria

@@whoisdis8201 seriously tho like i watched a different commentary video about the show, and there was the scene of jocelyn talking with the cult members while one of them is singing, the acting in that scene was so good and drew you in to the characters stories ….and then the weekend comes back on screen

@@lesliexhale Yah well said. Euphoria is honestly a very confusing show that had many unnecessary things especially the first season. But I feel like everyone who's watched Euphoria can say that the second season had a more intriguing storyline and the actors 1000% ate their roles.

Holy f*ck, what a great quote. Didn't euphoria nail the mental illness part, i mean at least a part of it ive heard? How did they make that sound like a parody

⁠@@user-sg4ov7ng4hthe actors of euphoria had some say even if not enough about the script, the casting is full of really talented people and the writer actually suffered with addiction so he took away from his own experiences, this show doesn’t have any of it, just the objectification of women part

@@orpheousreads exactly

What does that mean 😅

You mean really depp

She's pretty, that's probably why

@@milkyway4827 Yep, 80% of popular people are just extremely attractive and that's about it

Wait, who are we talking about

It did, but that`s a lie lol they only said they wanted to criticize to get away with it and see if people fall for it, because then, if folks don`t like it they can always try to pull off the "I guess you are not smart enough to get it" card, wich fits the egotistical pretentious nature of Sam Levinson,...I mean, the guy had the audacity to claim at Cannes that this thing would be the biggest show of the summer 😂😂

​@@samantharamos276I think they tried the same thing with BvS

hey hey leia said it was bad in the latest episode that means it's against that.

@@samantharamos276crying at the festival too like 😭😭

before levinson stepped in, a female director lead the show but she ended up quitting. it was supposed to be satirical and more female focused before levinson scrapped 80% of the show and made it a wannabe revenge porn. rolling stones wrote a lengthy artical on it and interviewed the staff that quit, and they said "the idol became a parody of itself" or something along those lines

No experience with this myself but I'm so happy about these comments. Don't let these hollywood weirdos normalize shit like this.

Yeah it's disgusting.

Thank you for pointing this out. I’m in the same boat and really appreciate that Alex talked about this too.

❤

I thought Euphoria just shows what high school teens go through? It doesnt romanticize it.

yeah she already filmed scenes with the original script

You ok? ❤

felt this :)))

Ain't that the truth!

Damn, I've never related to this more. Also, i am so sorry

so real, also, are you doing okay? 💜

They can be vicious 😂

They are the most toxic fandom. Ngl...its pretty common for that fandom to bully people/give them death threats online...even gaslight people against the one they don't like. More than half of the fandom is a red flag and you can't even say anything to them because most of them are kids. Jeez! They're basically drug addicts...and if you say anything about their habits...well you know!

Tbh there isn't anything much to say about her character bc she doesn't even appear much from what I've heard 😭

Thank god he did. Cause Jennie's not fully blamed for all the hate she's having. It's the show's fault.

You have "kdrama" in ur name.. You only care abt jennierather than the show writters and directors.. Pls get ur priorities straight

I have to imagine there's a couple of new executives that just really love this edgy shite that keep everything else back.

Blame the people who "hate watch" these shows, therefore boosting the ratings despite the negative reviews.

It’s all due to the direction of David Zaslav the current CEO

Don't worry, given the reports coming out of WB they will either sell themselves off piece by piece or and just start producing nothing but cheap reality shows.

Westworld 💔

I think that line is a great example of them becoming the thing they were supposed to satirize. I wish they had stuck with the OG director, I think it could have been a good dark satire

That’s kinda the point they say that metal illness is sexy then don’t do anything with it like? They literally do what they were telling us the audience not to do….like….

Like Alex said, instead of being satirical, it ends up being the show's "mission statement."

“encouraging it” 💀

I feel like anyone who has uttered those words or thinks mental illness is sexy has never suffered from the indescribable anguish that is true mental illness

Wtf is going on at hbo? Does Sam Levingson have blackmail on everyone or something?

I just can‘t get over the fact that his name is Tedros Tedros hahhaha it gets me every time 😂

​@@MagicCardboardBoxfr cause this is ridiculous lmao

They wanted a more female perspective so they fired the female director and hired a male one?

@@MagicCardboardBox he’s a nepo baby, don’t forget that… is not only actors and models who benefit from it, the bulk of executive producers in Hollywood is full of nepotism and they’re the ones making the big decisions.

He’s always been a phony, wearing a wig. I’ve never understood how he has so many hits, and the fact he doesn’t write his own songs, just make his pop hits feel even hollower. The show should be about him.

Imo that’s just..that’s just cruel to make a joke out of that. Children suffered and people didn’t do anything about it for a long time.

​@@CorbCorbinwait he doesn't?

​@CorbCorbin almost no pop singers write there songs. The only artist that actively write there songs are rappers

@@RFJ0KER "the ONLY artists" to write their own songs being rappers is one hell of a stretch lol

Yes, Hailee can sing and act really well. The Weeknd can't act at all

@taylardotson8100 It's ashame because in terms of music he's excellent...Hopefully he gets given a second chance and you can improve on his acting I mean Hailee steinfeld's very first roll wasn't the best and immediately afterwards she was great so hopefully the same thing happens with him

@@taylardotson8100eh she’s just an okay onscreen actor. But she’s fantastic at voice acting

@godofnothing428 Everyone in the spider-verse and Arcane voice acting cast is top tier with thier performance's

​@@godofnothing428Bumblebee is a great movie and Hawkeye is also good

That's the whole point, I don't want that experience. 😢 that's why I said no.

I am glad this show is getting cancelled.

I will gladly deny myself the experience of watching this show.

@@erenssister.5535 thank god, cause the way this show is promoting trauma is just yikes…

This line and Jos saying she likes Tedros, not just in spite of, but BECAUSE he gives of a rape-y vibe was when I realized that the people behind this show are as much a mess as the actual show.

Now we can see how sam Levinson views nudity coordinator

It's like when that comedian whipped it out and got cancelled. Just bc you're a women doesn't mean it's ok. You're still flashing people.

@@mukta4689nudity coordinator are never needed and not necessary

@@Hkamerica273there absolutely is a need. I bet you enjoy flashing people without their consent, you perv

@@Hkamerica273 to you. says a lot tbh. get help.

It was so direct. I found it really funny.

And calling mental illness sexy is so disgusting

At least they admitted it 😂

“Mental illness is sexy!” Until you’re weeping on the floor for spilling your drink. Or you get overwhelmed by the big loud events by happening by your house and start screaming your head off. Or the days when you can’t do shit cause your brain decided to be filled with fog. Or you having a depressive episode and not cleaning your living space for two months. Or you not having the energy to actually do basic self care like showering and brushing your teeth and hair. I can keep going. I have loads of these

@@Grim_Sister are you ok?

Not really. Sam Levinson made Euphoria, and that show by itself made hbo tons of money. So they let him do whatever. The thing is that Sam Levinson had help writing euphoria, but the Idol was all him.

​@@georgehernandez2156Euphoria has Zendaya in it so the point of shows getting popular because of popular actors still applies- I'm actually pretty sure a lot of people started watching Euphoria specifically because of Zendaya, too-(?)

​@@TiaTam True. The only reason I ever even thought of sitting down to watch it (I still didn't) was bc "Yay, Zendaya's getting more serious roles since K.C. Undercover!".

I've heard Jennie barely gets any lines, or screen time.

@@n4z1f4 considering how bad the show is, that's probably a blessing

Charles Manson 💀

You chose to speak facts today eiii 👏👏👏👏

literally. most cult members are more lowkey or charming and try to lure you in without you noticing it until ur too deep

@@gosick442 I don’t know much about him, but I doubt he ACTED like a serial killer. You know, all creepy and weird. A cult leader wants to lure people in, not make them hide and call the police

EXACTLY!! Real life cult who try/succeed in killing people never act like it’s their goal. An example I recently read about was a Japanese cult(who’s name I forgot but if you look up some Japanese cults they will most likely show up.) The cult leader presented himself as other worldly and magical. He literally took a picture that looked like he could float in the air, and used it to gain followers. He claimed that he could help others reach that point as well, and it seemed pretty chill at first, probably because it started as a yoga club.(might not have been yoga, I might remember it wrong) He literally became a trusted instructor, and then slowly turned his students to his side. When he later started doing morally bad stuff, like performing dangerous human experiments, he framed it as the way to reach his level of divinity. If you survived, you were one step closer to being just like him, and if you didn’t, then you were never meant for such power. (According to the cult leader of course) of course, like any other cult, they also portrayed non-cultist as below the cult. Claiming they were less worth, and that when dooms day came, only the cult would survive. Cause you don’t just make it clear you want to hurt others, you easy people into believing hurting others is for the greater good. This cult was so good at it, they got some seriously smart scientists into the cult, and used them to start producing some really dangerous gas. They then used the gas on some of Tokyos trains, killing and hurting a lot of people. Especially cause one of the gas packages made it onto a station, and therefore hurt even more people then just those on the train. Obviously commuting theorisem means the police and the government start coming after you, and the cult leader was eventually caught. And now Japan is a lot more strict when it comes to keeping an eye on religions and cults. If you’re interested I recommend looking into it more yourself, because I can’t tell everything with all the facts in a single comment. But it’s super interesting on how cults function. And how a leader can manipulate people. Although you need a bit of a stomach. Some stuff that went on is seriously messed up, and not for the faint of heart.

Underrated

To think a show managed to be worse than 356 days is true talent fr Twilight is an absolute masterpiece now and Edward is a Greek God, Christian grey is the most handsome angel ever , massimo is a hot rich bad boy now

😂😂😂😂

"made big mistakes, you made the worst one look fine" - olivia rodrigo

​@@lumityviktuuristanartist4100I'd take Jasper's creepy a** over this rat-tail any goddamned day.

Most of us wish she started on a better show

@@charlottedekievit3874 totally true like she got barely any screentime and the show is bad so hopefully her future projects will allow her to showcase her talents more

I really wished she could have starred in the marvel series instead, im trying so hard to defend her choices atp, but I still love her as Jennie of BP instead of Jennie Ruby Jane, wish she could take a better series next time!

@@seraphina111 She definitely needs to build more experience first before she can go over to Marvel😭

i'm upset she's even there

I love Bojack Horseman! Sarah-Lynn is such a tragic character.

Bojack Horseman is a great show! I still go back and watch few episodes from time to time.

yes please read oshi no ko, its so good

yea cause bojack horseman is atleast dark in a way that isn’t appealing for 14 y/o XD

​@@pokix1215 oh God this! That's the reason twitter people hate this Cartoon lmao

Well maybe you should because most of what he's said about the show is outdated as of the final episode

​@@joshnicholson2934The show is bad

Underated comment 😂

Lol

Yep. Pretty much

Yessirr

I think “An Alex Meyers a week stops thoughts ever so bleak.”

Sam Levinson have a history of use plot points to talk shit about people he doesn’t like and is well known how much he fought the guys enforcing the intimacy contracts in Euphoria. And like Ryan Murphy with Glee but on steroids.

@@biazacha Ohhh what creepy shit did Ryan Murphy do on the set of Glee?

im sure there are a few glimpses of it on the plot, the only good scenes like jocelyn calling for her dead mom, troye getting electrocuted and admitting to have resentment towards jocelyn, the table debate on how pain makes the best art. But it's all lost in the sea of shtty acting and horrible unnecessary scenes and writing.

definitely less s*x scenes 💀

The og team was kicked cause they’re too focused on the “female experience” for The Weekend’s taste so that says all we need to know about what could have been.

@@biazacha ...and about the man himself😬😑

I know that bothered me too, depression is truly awful. Sending love ❤

I hope your okay I'm going through the same thing

I’m sending you both lots of love and strength ❤️ you’re not alone in this and it will get better

Calm down snowflake

Its crazy that we need to add it to make comment valid, but sure - i also suffer from depression half of my life, doctors, medications, you name it. But because of my condition i cannot ban movies to make scripts. By the way i think you completely missed the underline message behind this "mental illness is sexy" in movie. Are people not able to think beyond the lines when they watch movies or read books? I actually think this sentence in movie as well as lot of other things which were included actually was trying to show the harsh reality media is dealing with when deciding what show to society. Yes, she was sexy, depressed and it brought money. Thats how f up is society, because boring don't sell. The movie gave as possibility to criticize our sick society, yet again we missed the point and just jump on movie and one more time are offended about something. I think this movie have deep message and most of people missed it. Nobody is able to think anymore : D

they need to release Amy Seimetz's cut just for my mental health i need to know how much they ruined the original work but they probably wouldn't because they know that verson is better and they'll be more critisized for it

@@windyp0d i agree! Would love to see an actual woman’s perspective take on this , I really wish they’d give us more than 5 episodes 🫤 it felt so unfinished

Yes!! They had shot about 80% of the show when apparently The Weekend didn't like that it was "focusing on the 'female perspective'" and Levinson got in and they re-shoot most of it, turning it into a whole different show. I want to see the Amy Seimetz's cut!

Since they changed the point of view, and gave more importance to Tedros (The Weeknd), why didn't they also change the title of the series ? "The guru" or "Guru in Hollywood", instead of "The Idol" 😉. By the way, there are no clues about how Jocelyn is so famous and popular around the world ...

Na, it was going to be soft core trash no matter what.

Heck, Nathan from Euphoria got a handful of thirst edits too. He's a problematic character from a show Sam Levinson has creative control over too.

@@lactosened9178 Honestly as terrible as Nate is, he is pretty fascinating, mostly because Elordi IS a good actor and he can pull it off.

Because Dahmer is a real person

@@jojo-xh5ik that wasn't the point I was making. Plenty of people could love a character like Tedros no matter how toxic he is. Him being bad or toxic or an abuser could be compelling. But The Weeknd can't inject any charisma in his 'acting' and it makes the character look ridiculous.

true😂😂

Eddie Cull was a saint compared to whatever Tedros, Hardin and Gray got goin' on frfr

Wtf is going on at hbo? Does Sam Levingson have blackmail on everyone or something?

@@MagicCardboardBox just a perv honestly

Who on the set was out there thinking rat tail ponytails are cute? They need help.

The woman who was fired was the original director. About 80% of the series was completed before The Weekend essentially fired her and replaced her with Sam Levinson.

Sam levingson probably has a lot of power and is just allowed to keep going and going without any pushback, like the nickelodeon foot fetish guy and the US gymnastics team doctor. We'll probably be getting a lot more content from this egotistical "man."

And that rat tail, Oh my gosh... It is hideous

My thoughts exactly! Abel just doesn't have the suave or charisma to pull off this role.

I can maybe see where people think Durden is cool but I'd argue going the same route with Patrick Bateman and Derek Vinyard weren't paying attention to the movie even a little bit.

Honestly i think abel should just stick to music, he's good at it. I love his songs but idk about acting. Like i feel like he was made to be a singer. He's terrible at acting lol

Same !

That's a great book. I couldn't get through one episode of this.

I Wonder What Jenette Thinks Of This..

Jesus christ Jennete doesn't fucking OWN the disorder or having abusive parents wtf is up with you people

I also saw theories on TikTok that the Idol is based off of Selena Gomez

I have a friend who thinks everything The Weeknd did in this show is sexy 😭

And their jokes are terrible. "Mental illness is sexy" and the absolutely disgusting reference "shes making me have IBS im shitting more blood than a kid at epsteins island" 🤢🤮 like omg, i didnt mind euphoria but these shows are terrible

I vaguely remember Emilia Clarke kind of had to do the same thing for Game of Thrones and the internet kind of had a similar reaction that because she did it early on when she was unknown then they somehow figured she was making a big deal over nothing once she had the audacity to use her newfound leverage to stand up for herself.

This, and I honestly think it’s hypocritical how they want to critize the oversexualization of women in the industry while literally sexualizing a woman in the industry

how do you know it was sam levinson and not the weeknd and reza fahim as well?

​@@liste302it was all of them

@@liste302 It was all of them but from what I've read more so Sam then anyone else

Unsurprising there was another writer running the show with Sam on season 1 of euphoria and he bullied them out too. Idk why he doesn’t just become a pornography writer and leave the rest of us alone

This 'mess' is phenomenal. All y'all haters are just doubling down on your bad opinions

I honestly forgot she was part of the project with how much the weekend and sam Levinson get talked about

@@Bisexualdragon4042it’s sad, they literally filmed six episodes with her as the director before sam; and then scrapped it.

​@@YelloHoesthose episodes should be released as an apology for whatever this show was supposed to be

They need to release the Amy Seimetz cut fr

Hold up, this was originally Amy Seimetz's??? She's the creative that Barry Levinson's kid sacked??

Exactly this. I've been trying to find a way to explain this feeling. It's like you watch a horrible, tone deaf, shallow scene but you can immediately see how the showrunners would justify it as something with a deeper meaning that we, the audience, can't fathom. But it's really just all poorly written with little subtext or subtlety, that CAN be read into (in a way the writers probably never intended)

Well since the director (a woman) was replaced because the show was too focused on "female perspective", I guess the new one (a man) didn't like the message so he changed 98% of the old script😒

Joss is more than a narc, she abused troye sivan(can't remember his character name sorry, LOL) and let leia get treated like shit. she lost all sympathy i had for her the past episodes.

@@lead6186 Agree! I tried so hard to get along with Joselyn but even with her trauma she has no right to be an a*shole to everyone

It is showing the dark side of the industry you actually have to be in the music industry to understand everything that’s going on. Exploitation of women in music is only one aspect. They explored how labels treat their artists, how someone you can trust can turn into competition, the gatekeeping of some artists, how the media portrays stories, the cult like parties and violence that goes on. I don’t think this show is for everyone to understand it

@@UncleT525 okay sam levinson.