The Illusion of Separation Dissolves -- Fetter 6 with Kevin Schanilec 

The look on this guy's face is like a permanent surprised/bemused expression

Interviews with Kevin and material on the 10 fetters in general can be real hard to find... So deeply grateful for this series, Angelo! I'd truly love to hear his take on breaking the first 3 fetters as well...

The part about habits was great. That’s exactly how I overcame the binge/purge cycle when I had an eating disorder. This was years ago, but somehow I figured out that when I noticed the urge I could actually sit with it and it would eventually pass. For a while the urge was super intense and very hard to sit with, but eventually it loosened and became a lot more bearable.

Non-duality is growing up. 🙏❤️

‘ I was something like everything else’

This is what has been happening here for a while now naturally and it’s so helpful to. Hear you explain it so clearly. Thanks so much.❤

I worked with the practices in this video for weeks. It wasn't until I was working with Angelo's video on '5 Steps to Realease from illusion of Seperation' that it was realised this fetter had fell away already! It was such a subtle shift and felt so natural it went unnoticed. Probably because of all the 'hardwork' daily videos Angelo was giving us these last few weeks!Thank you so much Angelo and Kevin for this workshop. It was difficult, frustrating, emotional and fun!

There is definitely still a subject/ object experience when I try this exercise. Looking within to try and find the experiencer there is none, but a sensation arises in my upper chest area going towards my throat, its a felt sense. I'm looking at an object and this is what happens during this inquiry. The object is still out there and I'm the most important! I realize this will take time and practice for the rewiring to occur, the willingness is there. Thank you both very much for this important material.

I like that "what am I shuttling back to?"

"neurologically dysfunctional " stabbed me in the heart!! I'm only dysfunctional because the world is run by neurotypicals.

Amazing talk! It would be awesome if he made a RU-vid channel and once in a while posting all kinds of exercises to break the fetters. This model is awesome no doubt about it. But I don't think it's for everyone, definitely not for me. I have been doing the first fetter for 2 years, for a very long time everyday, and no shift would happen. So I just gave up on it

Thank you!!! Ty Kevin for the periphery exercise!!

Think I'll stop at this one for a while. I never really understood the subject/object thing. It does seem to explain the spear/pole that stabs me right where Kevin points. And listening to him it seemed to dissipate quicker than usual. It's odd to be the stabber and the stabbed. Thank you both. 🙏

Kevin's website is really great. Would love to also see an interview more focused on the first 3 fetters. Thanks!

I watched the first one twice. Really amazing.

awesome!! this is even better than the last one x)

This is soooo helpful!!! Exactly what I was fumbling to see into but without much luck. Wow, huge thanks to you two!!!🥰

Thank you Kevin and Angelo! These really are great instructions.

Are you following these 10 fetters? Ten Fetters 1. Self-illusion (self-identity views; belief in personality) 2. Scepticism (uncertainty) 3. Attachment to rules and rituals (grasping at precepts and practices) 4. Sensual lust (craving) 5. Ill-will 6. Craving for fine-corporeal or material existence (passion for form) 7. Craving for incorporeal existence (passion for what is formless) 8. Conceit 9. Restlessness 10. Ignorance The ten fetters that bind us to the cycle of birth and death are listed as follows in the Pali canon (from the Anguttara Nikaya (AN 10.13): “Sanyojana Sutta - Fetters.”): “There are these ten fetters. Which ten? Five lower fetters and five higher fetters. And which are the five lower fetters? Self-identity views, uncertainty, grasping at precepts and practices, sensual desire, and ill will. These are the five lower fetters. And which are the five higher fetters? Passion for form, passion for what is formless, conceit, restlessness, and ignorance. These are the five higher fetters. And these are the ten fetters.”

Thinking Todd rungren and Utopia... "Underneath it all... We are here together" from "Just One Victory"

noun plural noun: fetters a chain or manacle used to restrain a prisoner, typically placed around the ankles. "he lay bound with fetters of iron"

Thank you both of you! Side note - the three video thumbnails with the rainbow colours 🌈 are beautifully in sync.

This is outstanding. Thank you for doing this. Reading his work AND hearing him discuss brings so much more light. He is a joy

Absolutely incredible resource. Total cheat code obtained through intense research and deconstruction. Beautifully facilitated. Besides all the incredible wisdom delivered by these two regarding fetter 6, Angelo gives a masterclass in listening and responding with true grace. It is truly special to be going through this in this time and having you both pointing the way to for no one to get nowhere with such precision. Gratitude.

Great discussion. Noticing the energetic back and forth between the assumed object and subject is so valuable in breaking the illusion that someone is here inside looking outside. It is also important not to expect any shift to happen while doing the exercise. Otherwise, we may overlook the subtlety of the exercise.

I’m too very grateful for these videos/teachings/exercises with Kevin. Thanks for it and for sharing it 🙏❤️

Thank you both for making this available publically. I'm finding this Fetter work approach very helpful. A tangible approach systemised and handleable- Very very useful to the modern human mind! Certainly the 'chunking up' in this manner toward the a more 'complete' dissolution of more tenacious aspects of the illusion of a self is hugely helpful in areas where more standard meditative approaches hasnt been able to dissolve in everyday life, off the cushion so to speak. Gritty, and uncomfortable work much needed in my case, so really, Thank you!

Really enjoying the presentation of these additional techniques; lovely vibe this man has😊

I can remember many times in my life from when I was a kid when I’d look at something and it would appear flat. It would only be for a few seconds but it was very noticeable. I would blink a time or two and it would look normal again. It’s disorienting for sure.

Having read the descriptions of all ten fetters on the website, they are rather hard core. It struck me that, even if one does not intend to take that approach, it does give an excellent illustration of a method derived from Buddhist teachings. That can be useful when practicing simple, self inquiry as it fills in a few blanks conceptually. Although, simple is fine, too. Whatever floats your boat to the other shore..

You are so authentic. All the things you said about Harry Mack leaving his mark and spreading love?-turn that back around to yourself. ❤️

This is awesome. Thank you.

So clear ! sooo helpful ! 👌Thank you 💜

8:20 sixth fetter discussion begins 19:50 turning towards exercise 33:24 summary of investigation steps 35:37 staying out exercise 41:11 staying in the gap

When I look at object I see a shadow around it , to describe, it's like and aura,I look up to the sky when relaxing and see particles all around..

I had a Nihilistic view 6 Months to 2 Years after a 5Meo-DMT experience , , , it was really Dark. I'm happy I went there , it seemed like a Karmic purge looking back now. At the Time it was pure horror ! Still a bit stuck in Sadness, but sometimes I remember it's Mind

Hi Angelo please can you put the link to the previous one which you’ve suggested to watch first. Many thanks! ♥️

Living every day normally while understanding everything goes together ..

Amazing

Turning toward exercise... when an object becomes an object and I become a subject 19:51

Thanks for this great series Angelo and Kevin. Just wonderful. Kevin mentioned that there are two stages to breaking the 4th and 5th fetters - 1st weakening the fetters, and then breaking them. Would it be possible to go into those two steps in a little more detail? Thanks again.

Liking! Thank you!

Do the fetters always fall away in order??

I think I need a written version of this lol. I've had that flat 2d effect with vision before. Its funny. The sky usually has that effect for me consistently. It looks fake. Flat. Wallpaper!

There's something beyond Awareness? The unconscious mind/emotions. The body doesn't lie the mind does.

Thinking the word "I" is useful for shining a spotlight on a specific set of goings-on .. for defining and setting aside one set of goings-on from other sets of goings-on. Trying to think of a word useful to represent more of a floodlight .. hmmm ..

funny, that it took me 57 years too to notice with Kevin’s help that we do this Radar thing with the surroundings 😅

I had an experience of simultaneous infinite depth and 2 dimensional vision while riding a bike down an extremely straight bike path, but only for a couple minutes total. I'm assuming this is a taste of what's being pointed to?

Hello Angelo. Can you point me towards the video that this short is taken from? Thank you 🧡

My furbaby is suffering. I know choosing to suffer in reaction just causes more suffering but how do I be with this?

Breaking this fetter made me realize that everyone (including me) has Main Character Syndrome 😅

Hi, I’ve been looking daily since the first video download. There was a fetters 4&5 listed for a minute. When I went there it was actually the first again. Then that disappeared. Now I still don’t see 4&5. Just the first and now this , 6th fetter. Am I missing something? I also don’t see previous video linked in description 🤷🏼‍♀️ Thanks 🙏🏻

50:13 where he gives the example of experiencing a chair, what does he really mean? Just cannot grok it, although I watched that part twenty times 😢 and I wouldn’t have made it a problem if Angelo did not appreciate the distinction that much. His response made me think that I need to grasp what was meant here.

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Why then should we go beyond the fifth 😅 looks like suffering kind of quiet down at fifth stage, stopping here sounds reasonable 😊 to me

What about 1,2,3 fetters? This is the second video I’ve watched about fetters and this is wildly helpful. But where’s the first or intro to fetters? I’m new to this channel so don’t judge harshly please

If the first fetter-there is a separate self that we have or are-has truly been broken, haven’t they all been broken?

I personally don’t resonate with this 10 fetters model. I believe things are way more fluid than this and that the unfolding of the awakening process happens differently through each mind/body mechanism and can’t be controlled or predicted in such a way.

Back again 😂