my university instructor mentioned him almost in every session of our algorithms and data structure course. he used to ask us: "Who is the father of computer science??"....
@@eliokhattar yeah but that's uni :) my uni also mentioned him in an embryology course (the Turing pattern), and I already knew about him because of the imitation game, but I mean he was never mentioned even once in my high school and I even live in Europe in a decent country.
What gets me is that he was only 41 when he died. Had people simply left him the fuck alone we would've had another 30+ years of him and his genius pioneering in the field when it was in its infancy . I wonder how much faster computers would've become a reality, and how much more they would be advanced today had Alan Turing lived the full life he more than deserved.
Benedict explained that while turning off the lights and smiling looking at the machine, he was thinking of reuniting with Cristopher on the other side.
it makes me so sad that alan turing will never know how appreciated he is in modern day and how much we owe to him as a society, and that he died probably thinking something was wrong with him
Many brilliant people get recognized far after their death. Charles Darwin, victor van Gogh, and Alan Turing don't even scratch the tip of the surface.
Trust me, almost none of us scientists do. Turing was brilliant and influential, but so are the likes of Ed Witten, Stephen Weinberg, Alan Guth, and numerous others. Turing was certainly wronged by the world but in today's world which glorifies fame and wealth and worshipping celebrities and gives no spotlight to scientific endeavors and brilliant minds, I'd say we are subjecting every scientist, every engineer, every medical practitioner to injustice, although this injustice pales in comparison to what turing endured.
I am sure Benedict would have won best actor if it wasn't for the equally brilliant Stephen Hawking's film out same year. Won by Eddie Redmayne. I wept tears watching this in the cinema. I sat next to this elderly lady who's father was in the war she had so much to say when she discovered Alan Turing's achievements. Sad he wasn't alive to see his pardon.
I’m sorry but The Theory of Everything was a terrible film. It had nothing to do with Eddie’s portrayal of Stephen Hawking. It was just an overrated piece of crap film.
It's disgraceful how even today he is ignored for what he did for his country and the world. He deserves to be up their with Churchill for what he did it was the most important thing anyone has or will have ever done. God bless him for the lives he helped save.
@@happybear3706 they helped immeasurably as without their work the task would have been impossible but it was the collosus machine built by Turing that helped shorten the war, it was a combined effort as Poland had to because they were being invaded. They did a fabulous job as without their help it would not be possible to do it but it was Turing who finished the job.
Turing’s achievements are severely underrated! He laid the groundwork for computer science which ultimately led to us being able to watch this on our phones/tablets/laptops! My grandfather was in WW2, which was shortened by two years because of Turing. He could’ve been killed in those extra two years that Turing saved, which would mean I wouldn’t be here writing this comment as my grandparents hadn’t met yet! What a thought..
If it makes you feel any better, in 2009 the British prime minister issued an official apology on behalf of the British government: "Thousands of people have come together to demand justice for Alan Turing and recognition of the appalling way he was treated. While Turing was dealt with under the law of the time and we can't put the clock back, his treatment was of course utterly unfair and I am pleased to have the chance to say how deeply sorry I and we all are for what happened to him ... So on behalf of the British government, and all those who live freely thanks to Alan's work I am very proud to say: we're sorry, you deserved so much better."
Rest in Peace Alan Turing, a hero who went so unnoticed just because of the type of work he chose to do, and had to end his life because of a genetic variation that the government considered as gross indecency. The scene truly shook me when it said he committed suicide aged 41.
As a german im must thank this man because those words "saving over 14 million lives" most of those lives were germans. this man has saved entire generations of us
@@happybear3706 Not a competition, but yes, we have failed to give the acknowledgement to so many brilliant people who deserve it, and have saved countless lives
Alan deserves his work taught in schools across the world. You see a lot of films based on true stories or inspirational people, but Alan Turing is far above them all. I’ve never watched another true story and felt so connected to it. He’s a special man, quite literally the most special man in my opinion.
That happened three years earlier, and the statement was released by the British Prime Minister. The official apology said the following: Thousands of people have come together to demand justice for Alan Turing and recognition of the appalling way he was treated. While Turing was dealt with under the law of the time and we can't put the clock back, his treatment was of course utterly unfair and I am pleased to have the chance to say how deeply sorry I and we all are for what happened to him ... So on behalf of the British government, and all those who live freely thanks to Alan's work I am very proud to say: we're sorry, you deserved so much better.
But the thing is, she shouldn’t have to pardon someone being homosexual. It should have never been against the law. Loving who you love does NOT mean you need to be pardoned for it to be alright. It’s disgusting and horrible. And an apology. Oh my goodness, how could you cause a man to commit suicide, only to pardon him AFTER his death and NEVER APOLOGISE. Why is the government so sick and twisted? He contributed to winning the war and saved 14 MILLION LIVES. And what’s his reward? Being put on hormones that lead to his suicide. F*CK THE GOVERNMENT AND F*CK HOMOPHOBES. anyways there’s my big ass rant lmao
@@sashastocks7846 The problem is that the law was there because of the Chirch. For centuaries a lot of the laws are influensed by religian and the hate for homosexuals spand centuries. Long ago it was different. In anchient times people ware much more enlightened about lots of things - unfortunatly the decline of the Roman empire, rise of christianity and the dark ages changed a lot of things. During the hight of the Roman empire , gay marages ware actualy allowed but with a twist (because of roman masculinity it was considered normal to f**k guys but not been f**ked - because that made you more of a woman) so during the marage cerimony 1 of them had to ware a woman toga. A fun example of this is the yunger years of Julias Cezer. He caused a scandal in Rome because he was in a diplomatic mission to Pontis and he was sleeping with king Mithridates. The scanadal wasnt about him sleeping with a forein king but for the fact there was a rumor that he was the bottom in that relationship.
Well actually its the government that had to issue that, and the pardon, all the Queen does is give such things her ascent, technically speaking she could refuse ascent to any law parliament creates but that would be a very extreme situation indeed, especially considering that the Queen has for over 70 years ensured a very low political profile, most things she does are "duties" and the Government is running the show unhindered from her. Gordon Browns government apologised to Turing on behalf of the British Government.
I watched this for the first time today with my sister. I read the sentences to her on the screen because she can't see them very well and I just couldn't. The first sentence broke my heart into two, I was sobbing so hard and my heart was so broken for him and anyone who wasn't able to live their life, to be who they truly are. No one should have to live in fear, no one. It hurts deeply how he spent his last years on earth in pain, because no one should be treated that way. Also we don't want a pardon, we want an apology. An apology for Alan turing and anyone else who has been suffering or suffered by this horrible horrible system. We will always love you Alan ♡
It’s sad how Turning is so under appreciated. This man spent most of his life coming up with the machine in which today we now call computers he deserves 2 b honored so much more. R I P Alan thank you 4 inventing something so helpful 2 us today
If it wan’t for him, fields like computer science or computer engineering wouldn’t even exist today, you can forget about scrolling on your phones either we are still using landlines
I still got chills until this day, watching the end credit scene. And it's obvious that they made him look like a "criminal" just because of his sexual identity but what's with the Queen's pardon? - why does he need a "pardon", he did NOTHING WRONG.
the queen gave him a pardon because homosexuality was illegal in Britain until 1967, and if a charge for a crime is revoked, it's called a pardon. even though he did nothing objectively wrong, the revoking of the 'crime' he commited was still called a pardon.
@@sloppyjoes7 I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that actual gross indecency like exposing your genitals in public must remain illegal, but that you're not refering to homosexuality
Im glad my history teacher taught us about this man even though it wasn't part of our curriculum he went out of his way to teach us about him and actually made me sick that his own government made him commit suicide
The things, that were told at last, make me wonder, during these all years, how many like this are there. The ones who probably saved millions, but faded away in time, didn't get recognition. Damn the recognition, the least they could do was honour it. Man and about the thing about conviction of homosexual men? Suicide? Cried like a baby, I did. Hell. Dunno how to continue.
The fact we can share this video and speak about his legacy purely electronically is a standing testament to his legacy. Far beyond the millions he saved during WW2, so many more owe their lives to him. We are forever in your debt, Sir Alan Turing.
Alan Turing helped save the world and change it for the better as technology has come so far thanks to him. His family deserves a apology not a pardon and he deserves a statue right next to Churchill in London. Manchester has a lovely one but he needs the full recognition of his achievements in saving the country and the world by being right next to Churchill for future generations to learn from.
A beautiful, heartbreaking film. Benedict Cumberbatch put on one of the greatest performances I’ve seen on screen. It’s next level, the subtle expressions, the way you go from disliking him to liking him throughout the film. Just masterful stuff. Should’ve been the Oscar win, imo
Once I saw Alan refuse the crossword or whatever he was doing while he was crying a word appeared in my head- "suicide". I didn't have a clue why, because even though I knew that this movie was based on reality, I had no clue how it was to end- and, well, not even two minutes later..
Without him probably some of you won't exist because your grandpa or grandma died in the war. Some of you may never use tik tok or instagram because computer was found later. ...And his government made him suicide. What a joke. You guys owe him a very big-fat-juicy apologize.
Not just us guys the world. The experts believe the war may have continued for 2 more years with 14 million more dead. Many people in the world should be grateful to him as their grandparents could have died. The UK government owe him the apology and our children should be taught about him in school. All the British people are not to blame for his bad treatment only the government back then.
You know Alan Turing wasn’t alone right? Where’s Gordon welchman? Where’s Harold keen? Where’s everyone? What about the codebreakers who worked on Lorenz which was significantly more complex than the enigma? Like Bill Tutte or Tommy flowers? Without Turing’s help. What about the ones who worked on the Japanese messages like red and purple? This movie prays on ignorance from viewers who seem to think that all geniuses act like Sheldon cooper from big bang theory.
I am currently researching Alan for school, and no one knows who he was except for one of my teachers. So many people use their laptops, PCs, MacBooks, not realizing where they all came from. Alan Turing needs to be more appreciated as a person, and as a queer scientist.
"... today, we call them computers." My throat tightens and the hair stands up on the back of my neck, every single time I see that line in this movie... no matter how many times I watch it. That line on it's own is a BIG hitter, but when partnered with the rousing and moving music behind it, it resonates with me almost as much as the moment that Schindler (Neeson) lays the rose on the grave of Oskar Schindler. (And, when the cemetery scene is playing, if there is someone else is on the room, I have to leave the room, because the scale of the emotion cracks me. And, I'm a grown man.)
"We call them computers" this line makes me wanna cry. He began something that, today, we all use: PC, Smartphones and so on. And now AI. Is so beautiful and yet so sad, becouse he didnt get the chance to see his creation almost literally "coming to live"
Alan Turing was an incredibly talented, gifted, and heroic genuis. I just wish he was treat better, like so many others watching this awe enducing movie. And can we just mention that score, Alexandre Desplat did incredibly well in encapsulating alan turings legacy, and turning it into a wonderful soundtrack.
Many people in the comments have lamented the loss of Alan Turing, and they are absolutely justified to do so! What the British govt did was indeed heinous, but not because Turing was a genius - its because he was just a human being trying to live his life authentically. NO ONE, regardless of their intellectual stature or perceived worth to mankind, deserves to be persecuted for simply being themselves. Let us collectively vow to never let this happen again.
We tortured to death the man who defeated the Nazis and changed our world forever because we couldn’t accept that he was gay. The march of human progress, compassion and understanding is far too slow, but we are getting better.
"Sometimes it's the very people who no one imagines anything of who do the things no one can imagine" and the ending "His machine was never perfected, though it generated a whole field of research into what became known as "Turing Machines". Today we call them "computers", gives me goosebumps everytime. 🔥❤️
RIP Alan Turing (June 23, 1912 - June 7, 1954), aged 41 RIP Joan Clarke (June 24, 1917 - September 4, 1996), aged 79 RIP Hugh Alexander (April 19, 1909 - February 15, 1974), aged 64 RIP John Cairncross (July 25, 1913 - October 8, 1995), aged 82 RIP Peter Hilton (April 7, 1923 - November 6, 2010), aged 87 RIP Jack Good (December 9, 1916 - April 5, 2009), aged 92 Thank you for your service.
This movie is so inaccurate, Alan Turing was actually known for being super social and charismatic, always the life of the party as they say. he was not autistic or socially awkward at all, like they make him out to be in the movie. Also around 3000 people worked on the ultra project not just a couple dozen like they make it out in the movie and Alan touring was the final step in a million steps done before him. Also fun fact Alan Turing was fairly openly gay throughout this time made before. He would openly flirt with men and take male dates to parties and formal events, which is crazy given the time period.
Churchill had the original Bombe destroyed at the end of the war which was a shame, but he did it apparently because of the rightful fear or espionage.
He invented Theoretical Computer Science, which is a branch of Computer Science, he did not invent Computer Science and most definitely did not invent computers. The development of computing machinery involved the work of many individuals over several decades, with key milestones including the work of Charles Babbage, Ada Lovelace, Alan Turing, John Atanasoff, and John von Neumann, among others.
And now Elizabeth Swan is now married to Will Turner and Stephen Strange became a Sorcerer of Mystics arts and Illusions and everyone is celebrating that the war is finally over
I’m an autistic and I’m gay. That makes me different too ! I don’t know much about people in general. But I do know this, most people don’t like different. They like people who are the same as them. They say that if “ your not like me, your wrong “. He didn’t deserve any of this, just because he was different…
It makes me so angry at the British elite and society of that time including the monarchy, that they nailed the person to a cross who saved their lives from annihilation. It’s not the first time the indifferent stiff upper lip aristocracy has failed to see the pain of a human being and in this case murdered him themselves violating the sovereign right of an individual. Another great was Ramanujam who faced discrimination, poor health and diet and died a premature death. These crimes against humans is equivalent to Galileo being hanged to death for speaking the truth of science. Disgraceful society of that period.
Turing deserved a grand house, a large estate, a pension of £500,000 per year, the government turning a blind eye to his "illegal" homosexuality, AND a statue of him in gold, platinum and diamonds in Oxford Circus for what he achieved and what he did for us all. The treatment he actually got from his country after the war was shameful and outrageous. RIP Alan Turing, one of the great unsung heroes of our time.
Alan Turing shortened a World War by two years and save millions of lives, but his pardon came some 60 years too late, much too late to save his own. Never mind that that "pardon" was just triggered by a public petition, it's the Queen that should seek pardon not the other way around.
One of the most historically incredible movies. Alan Turing did not crack the Enigma code first. Because this code has long been cracked by Polish cryptologists. For the first time, the cryptograms encoded with Enigma were deciphered by Polish cryptologists in December 1932 at the Saski Palace in Warsaw, which housed the Cipher Bureau of the Second Department of the Polish Army General Staff. The work of Poles, mainly Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski, allowed for further work on decoding the ciphers. Around October 1938, Rejewski developed another electromechanical device, called a crypto bomb, whose task was to automatically break the Enigma code. Despite modest funds, the team of Polish cryptologists continued to work on Enigma, perfecting mathematical methods of decryption and still deciphering German correspondence. Shortly thereafter, in Great Britain, in the decryption center in Bletchley Park under the direction of Alan Turing and based on Polish materials, work began on the decryption of Enigma using extensive and modified cryptology bombs.
What is a fundamentally flawed depiction in this movie as “the Enigma” is a just unbreakable machine and Alan had this brilliant eureka moment is fundamentally false infact the enigma was “family of machines” that would be constantly upgraded and refined..yes the poles did cracked the initial enigma machines but as war progressed the enigma started to become much complex and intricate, Alan and his team were also constantly updating and upgrading their machines and having a series of constant epiphanies..but yeah the work of poles and Alan did may well have extended the war by an year if enigma coded were not cracked you would have been speaking german. Also machs gut 😊
