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The IMPact of poor choices - the Hillman Imp Story 

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The Imp is a car of contradictions. While it sported a cutting edge, aluminium engine with a motorsport pedigree, it was mounted at the back when the rest of the car industry was moving to front wheel drive. It was built in a brand-new facility with the latest machinery, but hundreds of miles away from its suppliers. This all produced a car that was modern, yet outdated. Why did Rootes Group, a car company with a long history of making conservative, reliable cars in the heart of the car producing Midlands, decide to make their first economy car near Glasgow?
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@charlesflint9048
@charlesflint9048 2 года назад
I had an Imp some years ago, and I loved driving it; the handling was superb. One night I was trying to outrun a Ford Granada behind me, I would lose them easily on the bends, but they would catch up on the straight. Then they put on their police lights and pulled me over, fortunately it was all very amicable.
@brianmuhlingBUM
@brianmuhlingBUM 2 года назад
What a great story, well told. The IMP was 4 or 5 years too late. If it had been launched in 1962 and all the bugs ironed out, it would have given the Mini 850 a run for the money. I have a 16mm colour film of the design and building of the IMP and shows the enormous amount of work that went into the design of the body and the motor. But I bought a Morris 850 in 1962, thank goodness!
@MrOldhoot
@MrOldhoot 2 года назад
@@brianmuhlingBUM I had a Sunbeam Stiletto which I think I bought somewhere around 1969. It was an ex demo, light blue. I guess this was the luxury version of the Imp at the time, manufactured by Chrysler using the Coventry Climax engine. Whilst courting we used to go to the same pub most evenings and would often see a Ford Granada which would stop there as well. I remember one day at the start of our trip to the pub it turned out in front of us and he put his foot down. I put my foot down, although I could just about keep up I didn't have the power to overtake. I had a lot of problems with the head gasket which was forever blowing, in the end we used some gunk and stuck it down. I had it for about 4-5 years but got rid of it as it was getting costly due to various problems but I had a lot of fun in it, although it would have been fatal if one had a head on crash with so little in the front, plus a fuel tank! Oh yes, and the windscreen leaked like mad. Never did solve that one despite having a new screen fitted. I married my then girlfriend in 1972, just had our 50th. anniversary. We drove away from our wedding reception in that car for our honeymoon at our new house which only had a cold tap and some surface wired electric lights. Spent our honeymoon doing DIY. I don't recommend papering a ceiling together, it's a good way to test a marriage:)
@brianmuhlingBUM
@brianmuhlingBUM 2 года назад
@@MrOldhoot What a fantastic story, a good old memory from yesteryear. I loved going to the drive-in pictures on a hot night in the mini, wasn't too comfortable if you wanted a cuddle. Thanks for your story. Brian. Western Australia
@harveycope-robinson3108
@harveycope-robinson3108 2 года назад
@@brianmuhlingBUM 60mm trust me you
@topcat4759
@topcat4759 2 года назад
@ Mr Old hoot my cousin used to own a Stilleto back in the early '80's. Do not think I ever seen another one after he sold it.
@v1nando
@v1nando 2 года назад
Worked on a building site during the summer school holidays in 1981 and my payment was a 1960’s white Hillman imp (£50). I learnt to drive in the imp and passed my test in 1982. I drove that car for another 2 years, sharing it with my Mother before eventually upgrading to a bigger engined car. The imp was great fun, steering wheel like a bus but handling was good…between the mini and the imp, the imp was more impressive for me💪🏻
@peterread239
@peterread239 2 года назад
The story of the Hillman Imp really sums up the story of the entire British car industry.
@koro287
@koro287 Год назад
Yes..whinging poms and strongmen unions payed for their own funeral, we had one,i coasted backwards into our newly build double garage as a 13yr old kid but forgot to close the door! The centre pillar came off worse,oh and my arse when the old man came home! LOL. love from NZ.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Год назад
@@koro287 Are these strongmen unions anything to be said about the union leaders taking action today?
@koro287
@koro287 Год назад
@@toyotaprius79 My first job was in spareparts and the union guys were all english and quite lazy, if you pick a fight with a bear you might come off second best is all.
@gbwildlifeuk8269
@gbwildlifeuk8269 Год назад
@@toyotaprius79 nowhere near it. Maggie destroyed the power of the unions. In the 70s they were striking every 10 minutes for any reason. Just militant lazy bastards. Maggie starved then back in 👍👍👍👍
@paulmchugh8695
@paulmchugh8695 Год назад
Yep hope could anyone look a design like that and think ? That’s good ? What AND THEN THEY BUILT A FACTORY TO MAKE IT WITH HUNDREDS OF GLASGOW DOCKERS ?
@nalakprince6376
@nalakprince6376 2 года назад
I had 2 Imps and absolutely loved them. They were so easy to throw round corners and wave the front inside wheel in the air while doing so! My friend rallied an Imp with his brother and I spent many long nights working to get the car ready for its next Rally. I used to compete in Production Car Trials in an Imp as well...
@49commander
@49commander 10 месяцев назад
I think it was a product that had it been built close to Hillmans main production and engineering facilities could had the teething problems solved quickly and made a serious competitor to other small cars. It was a nice looking car and with Chryslers help could had been a winner for Hillman.
@MonicaandMervyn
@MonicaandMervyn 2 года назад
My dad had a forest green Hillman Imp. I remember as a kid going with him to pick it up. I also remember there was fear about the aluminum engine and head overheating (which never happened on our car), although the clutch would overheat in stop-start traffic. We loved that car, and my dream car as a student was a clan crusader.
@islaws4589
@islaws4589 2 года назад
Yes I thought the Clan would have gotten a mention rather than the Probe as they were (still are!) highly regarded and a helluva lot prettier!
@Graham_Langley
@Graham_Langley 2 года назад
Forest Green was what my '66 Super was. Same colour as British Racing Green according to rattle cans.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 2 года назад
Green was dangerous. Could be mistaken for moss. Red was best.
@gingernutpreacher
@gingernutpreacher 2 года назад
Happen on our car as well
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 2 года назад
Well good luck with your white supremacy goals but id keep wanting to join on the low my man
@garyneilson1833
@garyneilson1833 2 года назад
The engine from the Imp was still used into the late 1980's as the power unit for the Rapier missile system. It was used to power a generator to produce the 3 phase supply required.
@stevencross9953
@stevencross9953 Год назад
Very easy to strip and recondition - 875 overhead cam - loved working on it.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Год назад
Fire engine pumps too.
@CGAT147
@CGAT147 2 года назад
My dad had a blue one.. apparently I called it the "broom broom'!! no doubt because of the noise the engine made. He said it had a great engine and could cruise at 70mph all day. I also remember our neighbour had a Stilletoe version.. posher version with more dials.. happy days. I can even remember the day we went and changed it for a Hillman Avenger in 1974... now that was a great car!
@BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left
@BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left 2 года назад
I had a couple of Avengers, if I remember correctly, a 1275cc version and 1500 GT, they were like chalk and cheese. I really liked the GT, not so much the other one.
@CGAT147
@CGAT147 2 года назад
We had a GT .. was the envy of the cortina L boys😅 after that my dad had fiat 131 racing … my fav dad car if all time… it was so much better than the Ford rubbish !
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 Год назад
The IMP shook violently above 60mph
@stirlingnougher8559
@stirlingnougher8559 Год назад
My dad made the Hillman Stiletto in Australia. Only one hundred were made. He went by the pseudonym Jack Eiffeltower. I never saw one.
@leoroverman4541
@leoroverman4541 Год назад
My mum was a Rootes sales manageress in Kensington in the mid sixties and as a result we had a Hillman imp. I thought it was brilliant. I learned how to drive in one. I later drove the Mini, I'd take the imp in a heartbeat.
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 2 года назад
I found one of these 15 years ago in an abandoned garage in Hamilton Ohio. The garage was being torn down. I tried to get it but the new property owner was a jerk about it. I watched them drag it out with a backhoe and proceeded to destroy it and threw the pieces in a dumpster. It's the only one I've ever seen in my life.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 2 года назад
Sad.
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 2 года назад
@@BigCar2 It was very sad. When I saw it I had no idea what it was and had to look it up on my phone. Someone cared enough to ship it from the other side of rhe world only to have some 400 pound douche destroy it.
@Rapscallion2009
@Rapscallion2009 2 года назад
You should have gone to him the following day exclaiming it was a rare, valuable classic and he was now a very wealthy man! - provided he still had the car.....oh....
@MrManBuzz
@MrManBuzz 2 года назад
Should've told him it was rare and valuable the moment he destroyed it.
@williamsporing1500
@williamsporing1500 2 года назад
Hamilton! Oh, forgot, you guys dropped the ! Lol My neck of the woods. That’s a shame about the little car. What jerks….
@Iain1962
@Iain1962 Год назад
I learned to drive in my mum's Hillman Imp and then appropriated it when required, haha. It was a great wee car, great fun to drive on the winding Scottish roads.
@rotax636nut5
@rotax636nut5 2 года назад
Back in the early 70's I had a twin headlamp, coupe roof Sunbeam Stiletto with a tuned 998cc engine, there was twin Weber DCOE40 carbs, loud tubular exhaust manifold, hot cam, ported head etc and the car made nearly 100 bhp on Jon Mowatts rolling road in Basildon Essex when I got Jon to set the engine up. The rev limit was over 8K and with lowered suspension, upgraded brakes and wide wheels and painted Daytona yellow bodywork and with gloss black wheels the car looked brilliant and was seriously quick with it's light weight and 100 bhp and was an absolute riot to drive on the road with the most perfectly controllable oversteer you can imagine, I had so much fun with that little car you can't imagine! If only they came that way from the dealer Roots might have had a real hit on their hands like Ford did with their RS2000 cars
@davidbewick9208
@davidbewick9208 2 года назад
My first car was an Imp. Tuned it over a year or so keeping the 875 rather than the 998. They could be sleeved out to 1140cc and Hartwell had a 998 at 118bhp. Mine drove well on the 875 with about 85bhp and a 4 speed jack knight box. One inch driveshafts and a special tool to change the doughnuts! Neg camber kit and triumph herald discs. Shocked many a so called sports car on the road.
@ethelmini
@ethelmini 2 года назад
I don't think the RS2000 could be called a hit commercially. It might have helped a bit with the Escort's image generally.
@dandare1001
@dandare1001 2 года назад
Great cars. good to hear people who've had similar experiences. People often overlook the cheaper cars, but they are brilliant to drive.
@petercooper2387
@petercooper2387 2 года назад
@@ethelmini The RS 1600 was the escort to go for with its Cosworth BDA engine.
@patagualianmostly7437
@patagualianmostly7437 2 года назад
@@ethelmini If I recall correctly, even the Escort aficionados were not at all impressed with the RS2000...preferring the RS1600 (Peter Cooper confirms I now see.)(Sorry Peter, your comment was below when I replied to erhelmini)
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 2 года назад
Despite all the disastrous decisions that destroyed this little car, overall it was very cool and interesting 👍
@boomerhgt
@boomerhgt 2 года назад
They were shite
@dudleyhewett7211
@dudleyhewett7211 2 года назад
I have a 1970 Hillman Super Imp. I use it whenever the roads are dry and it’s great! Loads of fun, exempt from everything and very efficient. I love it!
@robbflynn4325
@robbflynn4325 2 года назад
Great video. I recall a holiday back in the mid 70's, my sister and I were probably 8 and 9 and squashed in the back of our gold colored Imp sitting atop a suitcase or two. We were traveling in convoy with our uncle and aunt and their kids, they were fortunate to have a big Ford Granada. I recall the Imp really struggling up the hills on the M62, my uncle had to keep stopping to wait for us. The journey from Lancashire to Scarborough can be done in less than a couple of hours but I recall it taking us most of the day! Got to say the car had a lot of character. I now live in the US and I see them popping up for sale every now and again on specialist websites.
@jeffb9903
@jeffb9903 2 года назад
great story i live close to the m62 had a few imps and loved em .
@kennedysingh3916
@kennedysingh3916 2 года назад
I live in Jamaica which is hilly and the Imp do struggle on the hill.
@billholmes6639
@billholmes6639 2 года назад
What a fantastic channel this is, so professionally done, bags of research and interesting footage - this should be on TV!!
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 2 года назад
If you have the YT app on your TV, it can!
@robotronuk
@robotronuk 2 года назад
Drove an Imp this weekend just gone for the first time 34 years at the Drive Dads Car experience in Derbyshire. Though it seems very basic by modern standards it was a fun experience more akin to a giant go-kart and I have to say out of the three cars I drove (XJS and MG Maestro) it was the one that brought the biggest smile!
@rafaelfiallo4123
@rafaelfiallo4123 2 года назад
"Coventry Climax" is such a great name....it sounds like something a Connery era James Bond would give Ms. Moneypenny in a broom closet at MI6
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 2 года назад
🤣
@DL-ls5sy
@DL-ls5sy 2 года назад
Lady Godiva on her horse
@Romartus
@Romartus 2 года назад
Coventry Climax. Have you met Pussy Galore?
@rafaelfiallo4123
@rafaelfiallo4123 2 года назад
@@Romartus Coventry Climaxshhh
@tomlee812
@tomlee812 2 года назад
Nostalgic. My best friend and I both had Singer Chamois. Really loved that car.. HUL 736C . Funny how you can always remember your early car number plates but struggle to remember your current one!. Nice video, thanks.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 2 года назад
Errata: The smallest Mini engine was 848cc, not 875cc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini Clearly my very simple depiction of the Suez crisis could have been better, and is pretty one sided. More study needed.
@Graham_Langley
@Graham_Langley 2 года назад
@Uncle Joe The Imp was only ever 875 or 998cc.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 2 года назад
The Pie Machine Strike was a wildcat strike with the union steward taking the side of the management. The Pie Machine wasn't heating the pies and a strike wasn't helping. Sounds mad when you write it down.
@adrianchetwynd1334
@adrianchetwynd1334 2 года назад
Big Car, what was the front to rear weight distribution of the humble IMP? What was the front to rear weight distribution of the sort after Porsche 911 of that time?
@adrianchetwynd1334
@adrianchetwynd1334 2 года назад
I forgot to mention the VW Beetle which was also rear engine'd
@Graham_Langley
@Graham_Langley 2 года назад
@Uncle Joe NP
@sandrafoxley735
@sandrafoxley735 Год назад
Singer Chamois JBH 635C decambered - would love to have it all over again. As long as you torqued to the book you never had a problem - first time I did the shims was 1.5 days second time I bought a micrometer and took two hours! Evidently 4 hours in the garage manual so doing well. Fantastic car - brilliant holding the corners and 80 in third gear-the only thing I could never shake off was the Ford Cortina - but those were the days when you could have fun......
@johndoyle4723
@johndoyle4723 2 года назад
I was always a mini man. Sad end to all the famous UK marques, quality control, labour issues, management issues etc. I remember seeing my first Datsun Cherry and thought then this will conquer all the small cars.
@MindSump
@MindSump 2 года назад
My Granddad was part of the management at Linwood, he had little good to say about the workers, as you'd imagine, and said that any car produced on a Friday or immediately before the lunch break was completely unsalable. There was also apparently instances of workers literally throwing spanners into the works because they wanted a break. Safe to say I did not hear a fair or balanced account of life at Linwood, so it's interesting to hear it fleshed out a little! There was a BBC documentary about it in about 2007, he was interviewed and his views had not mellowed with the passage of time.
@G.5.B.H.M
@G.5.B.H.M 2 года назад
Militant weegies, who'd have thought it 🤔
@jonadams7608
@jonadams7608 2 года назад
My Dad competed in the British Saloon Car Championships in 1972 with a Hillman Imp, winning the private entrants award that year. Really enjoyed the video, thank you
@nothanksguy
@nothanksguy 2 года назад
Mad melvyn is your old man? What a legend
@jonadams7608
@jonadams7608 2 года назад
@@nothanksguy yep that’s him! he really was a legend 😊
@jonharnew
@jonharnew 2 года назад
Remember Bill McGovern in the George Bevan imp brilliant
@jonadams7608
@jonadams7608 2 года назад
@@jonharnew yes, a rival of my Dads, the Bevan imp was hard to beat! My Dad kept in contact with George Bevan for many years
@andrew_koala2974
@andrew_koala2974 2 года назад
There were a small number of HILLMAN IMP(s) in AUSTRALIA in the 1960s - and an interesting 'zippy' little car with its own unique sound/note Also it is HILLMAN and not Hillman Learn an understand the difference
@Oyasumi52
@Oyasumi52 Год назад
I remember one of these way back in 1974 when I was looking for my first ever car I ever bought with my own savings. It was a green E reg used one in a dealer's lot. I was granted a test drive, but the first thing I had trouble with was getting it started as it sat on the forcourt for so long the battery went dead. A quick replacemnt later I was driving round town going through the gears, or should I say grinding through the gears because shifting it was like stirring a bucket of bricks (It obviously needed a replacement clutch). Needless to say I didn't buy it, but shortly later bought an H reg Ford Escort instead. I loved the Escort and was a little sad to have to trade it in for my first ever new car, a new R reg Fiesta later on. 😄
@SeattleSoulFan
@SeattleSoulFan 2 года назад
One reason the Imp was rushed into production: the Linwood plant was located where it was to bring jobs to a depressed area. At some point they had announced that Imp production would start on a certain date, so they thought they had to keep their word.
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 2 года назад
Couldv'e had them paint and clean up the factory until it was ready. There are many ways to employ people. Paying a bit more in the short run to keep people fed and happy can reap great rewards when you have loyal workers in the long run.
@orchidhouse297
@orchidhouse297 2 года назад
I took my test on one of these. It was rally/race tuned and could''t use third gear in built up areas. It was incredibly fast. I failed on improper use of gears. The examiner had never been in a fast sports car.
@dandare1001
@dandare1001 2 года назад
Great work, Big Car. I have had a few Imps, and still have a modified Imp Californian. Great handling cars when lightly modified. The gearbox is still the best I have ever used. I can change gears so quickly that it sounds like like a motorbike or a modern dual clutch gearbox.
@warriorpoet9629
@warriorpoet9629 2 года назад
Had one in the 80 s in London. Loved it. Never let me down, even when I accidentally filled it with diesel.
@macjim
@macjim 2 года назад
My uncle had one and when he visited us, the asked my dad to have a look at he car as his drivers side floor was damp. On looking under the car, he found the problem… there was no floor; it’s was only the mat/carpet that was stopping his feet from hitting the road! I kid you not
@Vinnie101a
@Vinnie101a 2 года назад
That must have been the Fred Flintstone model.
@nk53nxg
@nk53nxg 2 года назад
All cars from that era rusted like a bastard.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Год назад
That was normal for all cars back then - they would start rotting as soon as you got them out the showroom!
@iatsd
@iatsd 2 года назад
My brother was running a business for most of the 90's and early 00's rebuilding New Zealand assembled Imp's and exporting them back to the UK and to Japan and the US. Made a good living at it, exporting ~15 cars a year. Funded his classic racing fix where he ran a race Imp, beating Minis constantly.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Год назад
Its that where they all went? 😆 Haven't seen one in NZ for ages.
@doraexplora9046
@doraexplora9046 Год назад
Are you telling me the Imp was assembled in NZ? Were they Knock Down Kits by chance?
@iatsd
@iatsd Год назад
@@doraexplora9046 Yes, CKD kits. Assembled by Todd Motors in Wellington, I think.
@doraexplora9046
@doraexplora9046 Год назад
@@iatsd Australia Mini in those Knock Down kits up until 1964. I owned a 1961 English assembled Morris 850 Deluxe with a Turbo charged and heavily modified MK1 Cooper S motor under the bonnet, putting out 200+BHP at the wheels. I added a 5 speed G'box and a Quafe LSD in the mid 80's to it. Everything was hand built and modified by an engineer who worked for Qantas. Fastest and most mental car on the road, at the time.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Год назад
@@iatsd Yeah, in Petone.
@johang7498
@johang7498 2 года назад
I always enjoy reading the comments here from people who once owned the car from the video and their experiences. Being 43 years old and not British, I rarely ever saw an imp, but its angular shape with subtle curves in to me looks more attractive than that of a mini. With its layout and engine, it must have been much fun to drive I think, especially the imp sport and the stylish stiletto. The conclusion I can come to then must be that the imp is probably the greatest missed opportunity in British car history, as its design had so much potential. A rear engine-layout wasn't that outdated either in 1963, if you consider that a year later Fiat and Skoda still launched new models with it.
@arbjful
@arbjful 2 года назад
And also the VW beetle had a flat rear engine
@nkt1
@nkt1 2 года назад
I'm 45 and I don't recall seeing all that many either, despite living in Scotland. I do remember that one of my primary school teachers had one in the early '80s. It looked so old-fashioned compared to the other cars in the staff car park.
@dandare1001
@dandare1001 2 года назад
Yes it was sad that the Imp wasn't so successful. They had lots of quality problems from the factory. I heard a story that the engine block castings were affected by the water supply dropping every time the workers had their tea-breaks. We have had many missed opportunities in the British car industry. We built some of the most innovative and beautiful cars ever. Sadly we often had quality problems. I think we should have licenced everything to be built in Germany and Japan. They are usually better with production quality.
@arbjful
@arbjful 2 года назад
@@dandare1001 but it would no longer be British
@johang7498
@johang7498 2 года назад
@@dandare1001 There are examples of British cars that were solid and had a beautiful or innovative design I think, though perhaps not as much in the 1960s and 70s. Reading the comments regarding the more controversial British cars, it always seems to me like there was a 50/50-chance to get lucky and have a car with no real issues. Which of course is not really acceptable. On German cars: these days they aren't as good as they used to be anymore. Build quality may be ok, but I hear and read a lot about technical issues with them that usually are expensive to fix. I imagine that would have been different in 1960s/70s-Britain with technology being less complex (sometimes a little old-fashioned too). Anyway, I don't regard German cars as really superior anymore to British, French or Italian ones; maybe back in the day they were, but not in 2022.
@hwica2753
@hwica2753 Год назад
I had a Singer Chamois (fancy Imp) when I was at college. Great car except when the roads were wet. With the engine in the back there wasn't enough weight over the front wheels for good traction going around corners. Had to change the clutch twice, but the engine was so light I could pick it up and carry it. Sold it for £40 when I moved after college. Wish I had kept it in storage.
@bruce6014
@bruce6014 2 года назад
My first car. It was of course, pretty rubbish. But like your first love, your first car is always somehow special and memorable.
@caeserromero3013
@caeserromero3013 2 года назад
Old guy who worked in the same engineering company as my dad had one these running into the late 90's. He hand made replacement parts. He was quite old by then. He was an interesting guy. Manx TT rider in his youth, his parents were refugees from the Chinese civil war and moved through Europe, and we're in Berlin when Hitler came to power. They soon moved on to England!
@grandadians2362
@grandadians2362 2 года назад
I loved my Imp. I remember one of the first things I did was paint a yellow Starsky and Hutch go faster stripe. I then proceded to fit a roof rack and loaded with a frame tent and a load of camping gear went on a tour of Europe through France, Belgium, Luxembourg. Switzerland and in to Italy ending up in Naples then it was off back into France and up into Andorra ending up south of Barcelona then back to Blighty. This was with the wife navigating and 2 kids crammed into the back. The only problem was a blowing exhaust which was temporarily fixed with a gun gum bandage. An amusing moment was coming out of Andorra into Spain when a grumpy spanish border guard insisted on me getting out of the car and opening the boot for inspection. The look on his face as he saw the engine and not the load of smuggled contraband he was hoping for was priceless. Like other comments I was a bit surprised no mention was made of the Clan Crusader which was always a dream car of mine.
@pmacc3557
@pmacc3557 2 года назад
Great story. What year was the roadtrip?
@grandadians2362
@grandadians2362 2 года назад
@@pmacc3557 I can't remember exactly but around 1973 or 1974.
@pmacc3557
@pmacc3557 2 года назад
@@grandadians2362 Wow, 3 or 4 years before i was hatched 😆 im livn in that area now so have done my bit of drivn also but not in an imp and im sure things were much nicer back then... great journey.
@martinsaunders2942
@martinsaunders2942 2 года назад
Actually, they drove very well and were great fun. My brother and I had a modified one that we used for trials… it had excellent traction, and sprint racing… once the technique had been learned for driving a rear engine car, they cornered brilliantly.
@Graham_Langley
@Graham_Langley 2 года назад
The technique was basically to throw it into a corner.
@ivorjones6618
@ivorjones6618 2 года назад
yes they did i had one for autograss racing in the mid 70s was very good once you got used to the rear engine rear drive it was better than a mini i drove both
@russellclark5718
@russellclark5718 2 года назад
My dad had a blue Hillman Imp in the early 70's in Rhodesia, after collecting me from school one day and on heading home in a split second we both noticed a wheel shooting off in front of us, my Dad said where the hell did that come from? Next thing we knew the front of the Hillman collapsed on its right hand wheel hub/axle...we walked the rest of the way home! Fond memories.
@a.gordon.1385
@a.gordon.1385 2 года назад
My aunt had an imp. She said it was prone to spontaneous outbursts of adverse handling. I think it may have been broken, or her driving!
@Badjujubee
@Badjujubee 2 года назад
The Imp had a very busy suspension. They would rotate super easy, which is great for rally but not so much for a daily driver for most people. You could make them dance like a dragonfly if you could move the weight around though 😆
@NigelMorton
@NigelMorton 2 года назад
I had a '67 Imp Californian. One of the tricks was to replace the radial tyres with cross-plies - the back end broke away sooner but very, very controllably. Don't ask me how I know. Another common and cheap tweak was to replace the points with much stronger ones from a Cooper S. It cured points bounce and was a cheap way of allowing the gem of an engine to rev to 8000 rpm. The rubbish carb meant that nothing except noise happened after 6000 though. I remember that operating the windscreen washers meant pushing a rubber bulb on the side of the instrument binnacle. Push hard to clean the top of the screen, push gently to clean the bottom. Automotive genius.
@antoniomonteiro3698
@antoniomonteiro3698 Год назад
My parents had one - from what I remember of what my mother remembered: it stopped on the first red light on the deliver day and had to be towed back to repair; it stopped the day after the warranty expired (or fully payed?) and never ran again. It was lots of fun: me and my brothers often kneel behind the back seat for small trips :)
@rob_in_stowmarket_uk
@rob_in_stowmarket_uk 2 года назад
I remember, distinctly, seeing the first example of an Imp in my local Rootes dealer showroom, at launch. The car was finished in Powder Blue, or similar, and the first thing I noticed was a jagged hole in the metal of the roof on the off-side, where it curved down to the windscreen, just above the A-pillar - about an inch long and three eighths of an inch wide - which clearly showed from a distance (like someone had drawn on the paint with a black ‘Sharpie’!). The edges of the metal were covered in paint, so the hole had obviously been present at the time of assembly… And this was the car ON DISPLAY 🥴‼️ No wonder hardly anyone bought it!
@BOBXFILES2374a
@BOBXFILES2374a 2 года назад
Like the Fiats built with Russian steel that started rusting in the showrooms......
@stupitdog9686
@stupitdog9686 2 года назад
A fine example from the Scotts Workforce - Surely an Oxymoran?
@PsSimRacer
@PsSimRacer 2 года назад
Thank you for this, I have a used toy corgi replica Hilman Imp from the 60’s. I was lucky to have my Dad to give me a version of its being while he was still alive. You sir have cleared up the whole picture with this detailed video. Thank you from South Africa 🇿🇦
@Kysushanz
@Kysushanz 2 года назад
I had a MkII 67 Imp and loved it! I could throw that little car into corners like it was on tracks; hooking the front inside wheel up. It was a pig on icy roads as the arse end would try to catch the front end. I did a really fast run from Dunedin to Wanaka in mid summer; the car was really hot! I pulled into a garage told him to fill it up, NO water. I went for a piss and when I got back the forecourt attendant was just finishing topping up the radiator!!!!! I went ape shit at him, turned on the engine and it immediately pumped water out the exhaust! After that I carried a head gasket set in the car, my tool kit, overalls and SWAFEGA. I got to the point where I could change the Head Gasket on the side of the road in 20 minutes! Yes, even in the dark! I got tired of the hassle and traded it in for a 67 HB Viva. Still miss the we Imp - great little car.
@sineout9294
@sineout9294 2 года назад
Took mine up Skippers Canyon about 1974 and I don't think I would've liked to do it in anything else. Also have fond memories of drifting in the dry on the Otago Peninsula high road. One of the Imp's cheap design shortcomings was the sliding bush front suspension which was badly worn, letting the wheels play noticeably in every direction, by the time that car was reaching end of its life and ready for the wrecker. Didn't stop me hooning it around the wet leaves of the Dunedin Town Belt in winter. Great wee car.
@Kysushanz
@Kysushanz 2 года назад
@@sineout9294 Mate, me too - I loved heading out to Portobello early on a Sunday morning and really hooning it on the windy road. Many times I was looking at ending up in the harbour! But the wee Imp was just sooo much fun. I'd head back to town over the High Road. Yeah, Skippers was a bit of a nightmare in the late 60's/early 70's. I went hunting up there about 1970. Started off at Arrowtown and went up the Arrow River, branched at the [Soho Creek I think it was called] and went up over Mt Just and Advanced Peak, ending up in the upper Shotover. When on top of Mt Just I saw a storm coming in and so decided to get off the mountain so walked until abut 10pm to reach the Upper Shotover road then decided just to carry on walking and walk out. In those days the Upper Shotover road was just all Mica dust, no seal and the dust swirled all around you. But around 11pm a cockie came by in his beat up Landrover and asked me what the hell I was doing! I told him I was walking back out to the main road after being hunting in the hills. He told me to "hop in" and took me back to his farm where he put me up in a barn. In the morning his wife brought me out breakfast! Life was just so much simpler then; people cared for each-other. Nowadays, if you are seen carrying a firearm, you get visited by the entire bloody Police force!
@jockellis
@jockellis Год назад
Saw one at a church’s British car show a few weeks ago. Inside the engine compartment was a sticker which read: Roots Group; proudly turning owners into mechanics for over 60 years.
@allanredford6070
@allanredford6070 Год назад
ho-ho, priceless lunacy.
@sahhull
@sahhull 2 года назад
My dad had a Hillman Huskey. I was a baby and used to sleep on a blanket on top of the engine cover... No pesky child seats in those days. How did so many of us survive?
@andrewdrabble8939
@andrewdrabble8939 2 года назад
I always wondered why the Imp had an opening rear window with it being rear wheel drive and having the boot at the front. Thank you for finally solving the mystery for me
@maxkite4170
@maxkite4170 2 года назад
I have owned two Hillman Imps (the second was bought by my father-in-law for my then wife). They were terrible. In no particular order: heating didn't work as the hot water had to travel the length of the car through rubber piping which clogged up; the water pump was huge - because the radiator fan blew air in the direction of travel, and consequently was very inefficient; the Hardy-Spicer (rubber donut) couplings were constantly failing, causing the half-shaft to flail and destroy the brake hydraulics; the linkage to the gearbox was sloppy, making engaging reverse nearly impossible; the front was so light that at 70mph it would lift, negating the steering (I had a couple of paving slabs in the TINY front boot); some sick bu66er put timing marks at TDC AND 180º which, until one knew about it, made timing the engine after repairs interesting; and the automatic choke never worked. I'm sure that I have forgotten some items in the mists of time.
@davewilson4493
@davewilson4493 2 года назад
My dad's first car was an Imp. Among other things, the paint on various body panels didn't match, a battery leak rapidly rusted through the battery support tray, and the rear suspension collapsed (luckily, that happened when it was being reversed very slowly into a parking space and ran over a brick). I remember dreading uphill drives because of how noisy it got in the back.
@maxkite4170
@maxkite4170 2 года назад
@@davewilson4493 I forgot the front shock absorbers. When they failed, you had to cut holes in the bodywork to get a socket to the mounting bolts.
@davewilson4493
@davewilson4493 2 года назад
@@maxkite4170 Just had a chat with my sister and mother. Mum remembered the time that all the electrics cut out while overtaking a Land Rover on the motorway, and the time that lots of honking behind caused my puzzled dad to stop to discover that smoke was pouring out of the engine compartment. Sister remembered "Will it start, or will I have to run to school?" being a common morning preoccupation. (I didn't, as my school then was only a few minutes away.) Apparently, it was the guy that replaced the dissolved battery tray that pointed out that the paint didn't match (it was a fairly subtle difference, and being bright yellow, it wasn't easy to spot subtle differences).
@JohnInWaterdown
@JohnInWaterdown 2 года назад
My mom had a red "Sunbeam Imp" in the mid 1960's. I learned to drive and got my license in that car. I remember it being fun to drive and economical on gas. That was important to me as I was reasonably expected to cover operating costs when mom let me use it. Repairs however were absolutely outrageous and parts difficult to find, at least in our area. By comparison a friend had a Austin Mini (Called an Austin 850 at the time) and the cost of similar maintenance was a fraction of the Imp. Mom eventually replaced the Imp with an Austin 1100 and drove that until she gave up driving.
@Ralph2
@Ralph2 2 года назад
Well-sorted Imps and Minis are both extremely good to drive. Given enough power to reach 100mph with the right suspension and brakes there was little else in the 60's and 70's to match them on fast 'B' roads. I feel very lucky to have enjoyed owning several of both marques and hold them in equal high regard.
@VictorGate
@VictorGate 10 месяцев назад
Navigated for a friend in the Exeter Trial in a Sunbeam Imp. In the Lands End Trial a year later he ran a similar car but modified for trials, raised suspension, lower gearbox ratios etc. We did well getting an award and it was real fun. I drove part of the way back to the Midlands. Fantastic on twisting roads and up hills, but top speed poor. due to the low ratios.
@martingardener90
@martingardener90 2 года назад
I came across one plus side for the front boot when an Imp was involved in a head-on collision near Exeter with a Mk 2 Cortina. The Cortina driver died but the elderly couple in the Imp survived with serious cuts and bruises. Luckily they were going on holiday and the boot was full of their suitcases and holiday clothes, probably the next best thing to airbags!
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 2 года назад
My mum learned to drive in one of these, at the time they were doing roadwork's in our street, you had to turn into the neighbours ,then drive up the nature strip to access our house. Unfortunately mum found dad's instructions lacking, so after turning into the neighbours she put it into a tree. All low speed so not bad, but she panicked, missed the break pedal and instead floored the accelerator, essentially trying to make the car climb a rather large tree. Being rear engine'd made dad's backyard repairs much easier, a couple of large blocks of wood and a car jack soon had the front fairly well straightened out, way simpler than if the motor was up front, as that would probably have first involved pulling the fan out of the radiator!
@paulconway670
@paulconway670 2 года назад
I learned to drive in an Imp... no frills... my vague recollection of it was it being a bit of a lightweight tank! Still... I passed my test in it :) I recall it was a bit to light at the front in the winter - my Dad put a big bag of sand in the boot for more grip at the front..!
@user-John666
@user-John666 2 года назад
When I was growing up, pretty much nobody had a car. One family over the road however had an Hillman Imp! It seemed incredibly glamorous and unbelievable that anyone on the street could afford such a thing. I’ve never driven one, nor even been in one but I’ve always had a soft spot for the HI.
@matthewbrown2037
@matthewbrown2037 2 года назад
It's a sad story, that of the poor old Hillman Imp. It was a great idea and design, just badly executed. It was a cool looking car, (especially in California or Stiletto guise), with great handling and the all alloy, SOHC Coventry Climax engine was a fantastic little power plant, far more sophisticated than the A series. I'm not sure if I prefer it to the Mini, I'd have to drive an Imp to reach that decision. It's such a shame that in the strike ridden Great Britain at that time the poor car never stood a chance, especially when you add all the faults, design flaws and sabotage that came with it. You'd have thought the workers at the Linwood plant would have just been grateful for the employment, but instead they just end up helping to bring the entire factory to its knees in just 10 years. Putting an end to, not only Imp production, but to by far the biggest employer in an already heavily depressed area.
@paphian2990
@paphian2990 2 года назад
Having owned both the Mini and the Imp, the Mini was the better car to drive. It was also much easier for the handyman owner to work on (we used to do that in those days). That aluminium Imp engine needed very careful handling.
@DeanJuvenal
@DeanJuvenal 2 года назад
Crass bad management and treating workers like scum was the downfall of most of the British car production industry. I fact, that Gentleman farmer attitude has led to the failure of so much UK production until the Japanese stepped in.
@byronmills5952
@byronmills5952 2 года назад
@@paphian2990 I've owned both too - much preferred the Imp in all aspects.
@torgeirbrandsnes1916
@torgeirbrandsnes1916 2 года назад
Great vlog as always! I remember that car. All UK made car were gone after the oil crisis. Rover and Chrysler was selling in very small numbers. Anything UK GM became Opel. Ford UK became Ford Germany. Cortina I and II yes. III became Taunus IV became Granada. Funny story; my father always wanted a Jaguar. One day he had money to buy one. When he found out that you could not fit a set of golf clubs in trunk he bought a MB 500 SEL, a W126 from 1984. I miss that car! Sigh!
@JohnWilliams-ld9xg
@JohnWilliams-ld9xg 2 года назад
First car I every owned. Bought it for £165 to learn to drive in. Passed my test, bought something newer and left the Imp to rust on my mum's driveway for nearly two years. Then one day, out of the blue, I was contacted by a "cherished" registration plate outfit, who offered to take the vehicle for £250. Decided to try for a cheeky £500, but happily to settled on £300.
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 2 года назад
Every automotive historical video from the 70's, US or Europe. "The OPEC Embargo" "And then they went on strike". "Quality control was between rare and non existent."
@peteypops
@peteypops Год назад
My metallic gold Imp took me and my two kids on many a camping trip. Great car, loved adjusting the valve clearances!
@CarolSteele
@CarolSteele 2 года назад
I loved my 1967 metallic blue Hillman Imp. A terrific car.
@johnwilson6111
@johnwilson6111 Год назад
My Mum had one of these in my early teen years. It was a great little car, really quick with its racing design engine.
@robinstanden1951
@robinstanden1951 2 года назад
i also had an imp some 40 years ago it was extremely reliable and used little petrol, the handling was the best i had seen i also had a triumph spitfire and a mgb gt the imp was better, but its in the snow it was awesome the clutch went and i sold it for more than i paid for it to a guy who wanted to race it, i think it was the weight on the rear axle that made its handling so great.
@timhicks2154
@timhicks2154 2 года назад
When I was young, my dad bought the Hillman Husky, the estate version. It was forever overheating when fully-loaded. Curious beast for sure.
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 2 года назад
just shows that unions went from a good thing with actual good reasons in the early 1900's to a bunch of powerhungry people that simply could not stomach actually working to earn a living.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 2 года назад
There's been a long debate about whether it was the unions or the management that killed the British car industry. The sad fact was it was joint effort.
@saxon-mt5by
@saxon-mt5by 2 года назад
@@BigCar2 Aided and abetted by the Government!
@fluidefluide1128
@fluidefluide1128 2 года назад
A chap I knew in the 70s worked in BMC /BL management, he very quietly used to say that 90% of "union" disputes were engineered by management and consequently blamed on unions by the Tory supporting press, the intent being to get rid of staff and shut down plant.
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 2 года назад
@Retired Bore you could say that, but on the other hand here in belgium...a LOT of people missed out on a very good severance package from Ford when they closed the factory in Genk simply because the unions pushed for more. It resulted in Ford rightfully deciding not to be generous and just give the most basic of severance packages as agreed in the contracts. A friend of mine who wasn't syndicated at the time got lucky and had a severance package which literally paid him for three years at full salary.
@arnolddavies6734
@arnolddavies6734 2 года назад
This was my first car I owned after migrating from England to Australia. I drove it from Adelaide to Mt.Gambier and it seemed quite O.K. However, one day it broke down in a big way. The aluminium crankshaft snapped and my mechanic advised me not to bother fixing it, but to replace it with a more rugged and dependable car, so I bought a 1963 EJ Holden. It was a cheap rough car, but still much stronger than the old Hillman Imp.
@jonka1
@jonka1 2 года назад
The engine block and head were aluminium. The crankshaft was steel.
@nkelly.9
@nkelly.9 2 года назад
Great video. It chronicles another abysmal failure of British management. Donald Horne wrote in his book, The Lucky Country, that Australia was ; "A lucky country, run by second rate people who share in its luck..." The same could very well be said of the U.K. To quote another British old boy "There is no such thing as bad men, only bad officers." Despite all of this , great little cars with great little engines from a time when we were lucky enough to have a great diversity of cars on the roads, unlike the boring clones on the roads today.
@jguenther3049
@jguenther3049 Год назад
I bought a used Imp (possibly bearing Sunbeam logos) for US$350 here in California, about 1970,, intending to convert it to alcohol. The workmanship was not bad; it was missing altogether. I redid the brakes (easy) then addressed the accelerator cable. The front end of the cable hardware was misaligned such that the cable rubbed against the hole in the chassis. (There may have been a piece missing.) I immediately sold it for approximately what I'd paid for it. Happy to see the last of it. I will say, however, that it might have been fun to drive if everything worked as it was supposed to. I'd lost faith in it, and from this thread, I suspect I did well to get rid of it.
@johnthompson1453
@johnthompson1453 Год назад
Many, many years ago I had a 'race' with one in my 1969 Austin Mini 1000. The roads were wet and I was in the middle lane of 3, he was in the left hand lane. I was just in front when we came across a cyclist in his lane, he jinked to the right then promptly spun around. Fortunately he did not hit anything but he was very fast for a such a small car with a small engine.
@daviddillon172
@daviddillon172 2 года назад
If only they had built it in Coventry. The Linwood work force also killed the Avenger and Sumbeam.
@andrewfrancis3591
@andrewfrancis3591 2 года назад
My dad and I went to look at one of those Sunbeams. The door shuts were all out of line,. He put his hand into the front wheel arch to see if there was finish on the inside of the wings. His hand came out cut open, it was like a tin can lid.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Год назад
Sweaty socks still sponging off the English to this very day.
@Logies_right_hand
@Logies_right_hand 5 месяцев назад
@@LondonSteveLeeSweaty Socks have a strong history of quality engineering including shipbuilding and locomotives…..at one point 1/5th of the world’s ships were built on the Clyde. This is just down to poor management
@Logies_right_hand
@Logies_right_hand 5 месяцев назад
@@LondonSteveLeeThe majority of England sponge from Scotland then…..only London and the South East perform better.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee 5 месяцев назад
@@Logies_right_hand Rubbish - most of the profitable gas fields left are in ENGLISH waters - the North Sea runs down the east coast of England - don't make the mistake of associating "North Sea" income with Scotland. Due to the Barnet formula Scottish people are over subsidised - Welfare dependency in Scotland is higher than England.
@briancrowther3272
@briancrowther3272 Год назад
Really enjoyed the video, thanks. My mate, Mike, who looked a bit like Marty Feldman had an imp when we were in our late teens early 20's, late 1970's. We had a long weekend in Dorest near Lulworth Cove and travelled from NW London near Uxbridge. Mike usualyy carried a spare cylinder head as his experience was they used to warp easily and cause huge problems. He would just replace the head and drive on if this happened. On this particukar trip he did not have one as the car was full with our stuff. On the way down the head started leaking. By the time we needed to go home it was really bad. As we drove along we looked like a steam engine, we had to make sure the ngine did not tirn off or it would not start due to water in the cylinders. So we stopped at every oppertunity to put water in the radiator and fill up bottles while the engine kept running and a huge steam cloud built up at the back of the car. Amazingly we got home and Mike managed to get to his house and later fix the car. These are now of course happy memories but at the time it was a bit of a worry. I laugh at young peolpe now who dont have a clue about the cars they are driving as the cars are so reliable, can often only be fixed at a dealer if they do go wrong, often for something so silly its not funny eg a circuit to the petrol injectors being cracked and needing replacing, no idea of "points", capaciotrs, solenoids, tuning to get the timng on the points correct to make the engine run well, just call the AA (NRMA in OZ) , get a tow and replace a circuit. No nursing of cars now. I am not sure what I prefer, the fun of tuning doing it yourself etc or just press a button and go with very few breakdowns, for which you just outsource. Solution ride a great motorcycle, I think. Always liked the imps.
@SunShine-dk6rk
@SunShine-dk6rk 2 года назад
Growing up in the 70s we had one of these in 1972,great car I remember playing with my Matchbox Rolamatic tank on the rear shelf which was ridged and bumpy,before that we had a Chamois and my aunt had the Chamois too ,we loved these lil cars,thanks for a great upload,wishing yourself,family,friends and fellow fan's health and happiness,as an old youngster I still luv the Hillman Imp on the Forza Horizon 4 game set in England.
@fredericducomet.boquier7920
@fredericducomet.boquier7920 2 года назад
Thank you for this document ! From a young french point of view, I remember this car ! Anyway it was obvious that it was far less attractive than a mini for example .. The bizarre thing was the opening rear window for a hatchback ! As a french I was fan of Citroën's strange and odd gimmicks but the shape and style of this car was .. ugly for me, worst than the Zephyr tail fins and the front of the Citroën AMI 6😵😅 Merci beaucoup à toi 🙏
@howellstevens9622
@howellstevens9622 2 года назад
Citroen DS 👌❤️
@notroll1279
@notroll1279 2 года назад
The Imp surely was not a beauty - but nothing on four wheels can ever be called uglier than the Ami 6. Nothing.
@fredericducomet.boquier7920
@fredericducomet.boquier7920 2 года назад
@@notroll1279 😅 fair enough ! That's true.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 2 года назад
Glad you liked it! French car coming for the next video.
@fredericducomet.boquier7920
@fredericducomet.boquier7920 2 года назад
@@BigCar2 thanks I cant wait 🤓
@samolevski1119
@samolevski1119 Год назад
Had a neighbour who was a shop steward at Linwood, and I remember my father poking fun at him for always going on strike. They thought they were indispensable
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum 2 года назад
One of my favourite cars and I've never even seen one in person. My father, who was a mechanic for decades, has the absolute opposite opinion of them.
@BP-kx2ig
@BP-kx2ig Год назад
The Hillmam Imp ( actually a Singer Chamois) was my first car ever in 1976 and I loved it. No problems at all and fun to drive.
@metalmick99
@metalmick99 2 года назад
What a great video, and it's wonderful reading the comments and stories below from those who have/had Imp(s) and especially, the things they did to them that today's regulators would have a conniption over. My sister (in Australia, where we emigrated to) had one and for the most part it was reliable and good to drive. A friend of mine had an Imp GT and had the engine "warmed" - I think with the twin Webers that Rotax 636n mentioned. I'm so glad I lived through an era where cars were a source of passion, fun, and excitement. not the anodyne conveyances they are today.
@chusan55
@chusan55 2 года назад
Had an Imp as my first car in 1972 and loved it and had some fun times back then with it
@jonathanevans9257
@jonathanevans9257 Год назад
Concrete slab in the 'boot' in the front essential but loved it in my college days, I could take the engine out in an hour to fix things but the heater was a disaster piping water from the rear to the front in uninsulated pipe! Fond memories though!!!
@derin111
@derin111 2 года назад
Personally, I like the look of it much more than a Mini.
@Derek_S
@Derek_S 2 года назад
As others have mentioned, head gaskets blowing was a common problem with Imps. Despite already knowing that, my friend's sister bought one in the late 1960's and sure enough after a few months, it happened to hers. My friend and I changed the gasket for her on the front drive. It's a long time ago but I don't remember it being a particularly difficult job.
@CrimeVid
@CrimeVid Год назад
Was not hard to do, having made sure the head was flat, all you had to do was drive gently for a hundred miles and then carefully torque the head down a second time.
@colindeans9477
@colindeans9477 Год назад
Thanks for this video - I much enjoyed it. My first car was an Imp. I bought it for £120 and, at it's first MOT it cost me - £120 !! I did really like it and have retained an interest in the Imp for the over 50 years since. I also remember the dominant, I think, "Fraser Imp" cars in the saloon car champsionships. I had it at the time I got married and some of my "Friends" found it and "Decorated" it before my new wife and I drove off to Blackpool for our honeymoon. You related the business story well, it is a shame, as they were actually quite good to drive and reasonably practical.
@chrisjohnson6696
@chrisjohnson6696 2 года назад
My Dad worked at a Rootes dealer, and our family of 8 (yes, eight) went on holiday from Portsmouth to North Wales in a Hillman Imp! Dad driving, mum in front passenger seat with my baby brother on her lap, myself & large Gran in back, I had a sister on my lap, and two more sisters 'in' the rear parcel shelf!
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 2 года назад
That must have been a very tough journey!
@chrisjohnson6696
@chrisjohnson6696 2 года назад
@@BigCar2 Yes it was, and made even worse by the sister on my lap repeatedly switching her line of sight from left to right, and back again, and again, and again ad nauseum. I got whiplash scarring across my face from her ponytail!!!!
@trevcam6892
@trevcam6892 2 года назад
I bought a new Singer Chamois in 1966 (I think). It was a "D" reg. The Chamois was the luxury version of the Imp. Loved that car. Even towed a small caravan with it. I sold it on 1968. The next Imp was a second hand one about 1973. It sat in my garage whilst I was working abroad until 1978. Then I was using it to commute 20 miles into Stockport over the hills from Derbyshire in the winter of 78/79. Bad winter but it got me through when other vehicles had been abandoned at the side of the road.
@andybeckett4480
@andybeckett4480 Год назад
I had a Sunbeam Imp Sport for several years in the early 1970's. I loved it, and preferred it to it's rival the mini. It was great to work on. You could get the engine & gearbox out in about 1/2 an hour. Having said that, the original block on my imp suffered from blown head gasket syndrome, with deterioration of the liners. My dad had a mate in the Rootes dealership and got me a discounted brand new short engine (Block+crankshaft+pistons) which with a clutch set cost me only £100 - can you believe that? I also had a roller bearing collapse in the gearbox and I split the gearbox and replaced the bearing myself with the aid of a magazine article and a Hayne's manual. The bearing cost me £9 I think. Traded the car in against a Lotus Elan +2S - another load of trouble! Still have the Haynes manual somewhere.
@iansheppard9264
@iansheppard9264 Год назад
The Hillman Imp was my 1st ever race car..(Autograss) and i loved it so much. Such a zippy little motor and reasonable handling. Great traction off the line on muddy fields with the motor slung out the back but lacking a few cubic inches in the 1350 cc class. I soon fixed all these little niggles by grafting a 351 Cleveland into a Stiletto shell. Mid mounted class 7 (unlimited saloons). Lots more fun and sounded just bloody awesome.... After scaring myself one time too many I went to open wheel specials and sold the shell on to my friend who fitted a supercharged rover v8 with twin turbos. With the combination of turbo lag and runaway boost it was an excellent tool for removing fence posts and scaring marshals.... Eventually the turbos went and he developed it into quite a successful weapon ... It was fitted with a removable plate in the roof to adjust the carbie. Last time i saw it He was sat on the roof tinkering with the jets...I wonder what the designer would have thought if he could see it thundering around the track with two 30ft rooster tails coming from the rear wheels.............
@Thatdavemarsh
@Thatdavemarsh Год назад
I love your classic technic car. Brings back great memories!
@gone547
@gone547 Год назад
Had one in 73 in Singapore when I rode a Honda 750. Used the Imp as an umbrella during the Monsoon season. Actually it was a fun little car but used to overheat due to the extreme tropical climate and lack of maintenance. It was given to me by a departing colleague and only had about three months road tax left on it and which I did not renew. Found a fitting home when it was gutted, floor pan removed and the lightened shell space-framed and then fitted over an Elfin 600 F2 for track use. Wonder what happened to it. Oh, the memories. Those were the days.
@ianthomas5955
@ianthomas5955 2 года назад
I bought a Forest Green Singer Chamois - a posh Imp with a bit of plastic wood stuck on - in 1968, a 1964 model some four years old. I didn't intend to buy it - I went out with the intention of purchasing a Mini - but my father talked me into it on the basis that the Chamois was a classier product. Thanks, Dad, for giving me the benefit of your technical expertise. It was, of course, a disaster, saddling me in the four years I owned it with the usual problems: water pumps, seized steering, multiple clutches, terminal body rot - and the transaxle blew up on the M62. Radiator failure and cylinder head gaskets also featured prominently. One thing in its favour, however, was the bargain price of a new exhaust - £2.50 for a complete system, one of the few advantages of a rear engine layout. I got £30 for it when I eventually relinquished ownership which, to be fair, only cost me £83 a year in depreciation, probably a little less than a Mercedes S class would shed over the same period. But of course the never-ending catalogue of repairs cost me many times the figure lost in depreciation. My next car was a second hand Viva HB, which felt and drove like a Bentley Continental by comparison. Do I feel any retrospective yearning or affection for the Chamois all these years later? Sadly, no.
@rogerhale6895
@rogerhale6895 2 года назад
I had the Husky in late 70's, very useful as I was fitting out a boat at the time. My main memory is that it seemed to use as much oil as it did petrol, but it was fun to drive and reliable so long as I remembered to top up the oil regularly 😁
@lagrasta666
@lagrasta666 Год назад
I was born in 1970 in the island of Malta. When I was young my father used to take my brother and I every Sunday to an old RAF airbase and where car and motorbike races were performed by entusiasts. I remember very well Hillman Imps taking part in these races thrown in the midst of Mini Minors, Ford Escorts and Ford Capris, Fiats 600 Abarth and Simcas. Those were the good old days.
@phil955i
@phil955i 2 года назад
My first car when I passed my driving test aged 17 in 1985. So the design was already 22 years old by then. I remember the engine being quite revvy & peppy with a sound all it's own. Mine was a '73 model & I guess they'd ironed out out all the faults by then as it was reliable, at least in the 6 months leading up to me writing it off losing it on a wet bend in the road one night lol.
@sirhenners204
@sirhenners204 2 года назад
my dad spent many an hour trying to fix his sisters Imp, in fact I have old pictures of him trying to squeeze his 6'3 frame into the engine bay.
@Mollineaux
@Mollineaux 2 года назад
my first car, second hand but smashing in white with light blue interior. Remember going to Brands Hatch to see a saloon car meeting, along with a friend who was a Mini fanatic. Was delighted to see the McGovern Imp lead a mass of MInis over the finish line ! Happy days.
@bobp4
@bobp4 2 года назад
My first car in 1976 was a green Sunbeam Stiletto. It was almost impossible to drive due to a very very sticky throttle, but I loved it. I actually thought the shape of the Imp was more appealing than the mini. It broke down on the way to a Rod Stewart concert in Leicester, had to walk two miles to the concert and then had to crash at a students hall overnight before calling the RAC in the morning. Memories.
@ramishrambarran3998
@ramishrambarran3998 2 года назад
Great documentary on not only the Hillman Imp, but the Rootes Group. Starting with a newly-married employee couple who were on different shifts and strike-action was taken to pressure management to place them on the same shift, the workers and union used strike-action at their whims and fancies. At the time when the Japanese were emerging as a player in the car manufacturer and exporter scene, Rootes was in trouble, and had to be rescued by the American Chrysler group. But production of Chrysler cars also involved sourcing components from different countries, hence affecting time and cost. Reliability was also a big issue. While the Dodge Avenger/Chrysler Avenger/ Dodge Arrow/Plymouth Cricket/Talbot Avenger had fair success worldwide in the 1970s after the Chrysler takeover, It was the long-drawn funeral for the Rootes Group and a massive blow for the British automobile industry. Trinidad & Tobago. West Indies.
@marienbad2
@marienbad2 2 года назад
I love your dry humour! Great video, I remember these from when I was little but didn't know much about them, so thanks for another interesting video.
@melodigrand
@melodigrand 2 года назад
Around 1965 one of the members of our local dune buggy club built a tube frame buggy with an Imp drivetrain. It was super light and skimmed over the sand.
@3goldfinger
@3goldfinger 2 года назад
My first car. Had to put sandbags in front to stabilise it in windy conditions
@hughoneill9929
@hughoneill9929 2 года назад
In the late '50s and early '60s I had a flat next to one of the Rootes engineers on this project - when he wasn't at Linwood! He recounted that the original low density alloy engine castings leaked oil overnight, so design was changed to higher density. This made the rear end heavier and resulted in design changes to the front wheel geometry, hence the alarming toe-in and camber angles, all of which affected the car's stability and dreadful oversteer - a sack of potatoes in the front helped! I had a Mini and one of our 'sports' was to find an 'Apex' (pre-production name for the Imp) on test runs around the local roads and lead it at high speed into trouble! Much as we did to Humbers and Standards into the roundabouts on the Coventry ring-road. Great fun!
@subliutenant
@subliutenant 2 года назад
I had a 1973 Hillman Imp in Prairie Wind (Posh name for Beige!), Good little car, my Pal had the Sunbeam Imp Sports. I had trouble with the water pump, clutch and headlamps leaking, nothing too serious, it also had an oil thrower on the crankshaft, instead of a seal, so used to use a fair bit of oil. It got through King Pin bushes pretty regularly, I always knew when they'd gone, as it used to follow any rut in the road, which could be dangerous and often embarrassing! But it was really fun to drive and really economical to run.
@davidthompson5460
@davidthompson5460 2 года назад
The Imp was a blast for this U.S. sports car kid to drive. I don't remember reliability problems. But we had to repaint it in Mustang yellow. The factory dull blue, along with its tiny size, caused it to get hit in traffic, over and over. I don't remember what happened to it. Oh - and it had extreme positive camber in the front wheels - a quick fix for oversteer, which I would have preferred.
@1crazypj
@1crazypj Год назад
Interesting video. The imp engine was also used for motorcycle/sidecar racing making over 80 BHP (until regulations changed and 600cc was max engine size for 'road racing') It was also used in powerboats making over 130 bhp due to the engine temp being much lower I remember reading around 80 deg C as it took water directly from where it was being used I'm not really a car fan but I do like to 'play' with engines of all types
@uncbadguy
@uncbadguy Год назад
I remember those cars. I was in Sydney Australia for RR in 1971...
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