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The Inequity of Religious Freedom 

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Apart from the Unholy Trinity tour, this is the only time I have ever given the same speech more than once. This one was at Zetiticon in Fargo North Dakota. I repeated this speech for the East Texas Freethought festival two weeks later. The only reason I did was that I was booked every weekend that month, along with everything else we were doing then, and there simply wasn't time to compose two unique presentations that close together.

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@brianvance1178
@brianvance1178 5 лет назад
As George Carlin once said, ever notice that the more devout a Christian is to their beliefs the more they consider murder negotiable?
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 года назад
Which in turn posits the notion that murder is negotiable period, as the major source of "here is a clearly defined objective definition of murder that includes abortion, euthanasia, etc." is religions, so this raises a challenge to the very idea of objective absolute one-size-fits-all morality that doesn't change with the times, people, and circumstances.
@joerodriguez3475
@joerodriguez3475 3 года назад
@@autobotstarscream765 George Collins was absolutely right and playing on words all day it's not going to change facts.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 3 года назад
@@joerodriguez3475 *Carlin
@POCKET21923
@POCKET21923 3 года назад
I miss that man!!!
@joerodriguez3475
@joerodriguez3475 3 года назад
@@autobotstarscream765 I thought I spelled it wrong thanks for clarifying appreciated.
@lukusblack6442
@lukusblack6442 9 лет назад
"We're preparing for the end of the world!" No... You're *bringing* the end of the world. I believe this is called a self fulfilling prophecy.
@Viktor47917
@Viktor47917 5 лет назад
Yup. Nothing brings the end of the world. If a certain species of mammals (like us) decide to bring destruction, it is on us, nothing else...
@kathleen5237
@kathleen5237 4 года назад
@@Viktor47917 I find a lot of religious people don't know much about the science of our amazing universe, possibly through wasting time praying to some make believe spirit. Our planet will die naturally. Our star (we call the sun) will run out of fuel eventually. Or, as you say, through man's own destruction of our planet
@Viktor47917
@Viktor47917 4 года назад
@@kathleen5237 hey all people have gone from was human and bringing growth, to only become a destructive and malevolent being who has no care no more! A true human brings nee growth. We have brought destruction. We as the people are no longer True Humans until we prove we are willing to change. Forgiveness is just a word. Until you prove you are to be forgiven, you are not forgiven asking a figment of imagination.
@Viktor47917
@Viktor47917 4 года назад
@@kathleen5237 humans brought back growth they took to live. Look at us now! We don't care and are scared to face our consequences we brought upon ourselves! We have gone from strength to being a coward afraid of our shadows. We hurt the environment. Now, the environment is hurting is, because by technicalities, we are also Wildlife as well! So, why hurt the Wildlife when we count for it as well?
@kathleen5237
@kathleen5237 4 года назад
@@Viktor47917 I know what you mean. 100% of the population don't think like that. But the few that try and do care are like a drop in the ocean. Conservation of our planet and nature are far more important than religion and war
@pdoylemi
@pdoylemi 9 лет назад
Martin Luther said it best - "Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has."
@hilohahoma1547
@hilohahoma1547 4 года назад
Wow, that's deep. He basically validated reasonable doubt, awesome.
@SennaHawx
@SennaHawx 4 года назад
@@raysalmon6566 He said it in favor of faith, not as criticism
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 4 года назад
And for why YHWH indulged that?
@pdoylemi
@pdoylemi 4 года назад
You don't know much about the reformation, do you? Martin Luther was a monster - often called the "spiritual step-father of Hitler" and deservedly so. He didn't give a squat about freedom. He wanted to form his OWN state religion, and allied with the nobles against peasants fighting for freedom - or at least a better lot in life. After preaching about the "Freedom of the Christian" - "A Christian is a free lord over all things, and subject to none." Luther seems to have been bought off (or something) by the nobles oppressing the peasants and betrays them brutally and sides with the oppressors. With his text “Against the Robbing Murderous Hordes of Peasants”, he urges the princes to take ruthless retaliation. “They must be sliced, choked, stabbed, secretly and publicly, by those who can, like one must kill a rabid dog.” Luther chooses to apply the “freedom of a Christian” to the spiritual only. He was a disgusting madman, and the ONLY thing he got right was that people should be allowed to have Bibles in their own language.
@albertrogers2506
@albertrogers2506 4 года назад
@ The Pope's utter self-indulgence and the lying ways he used to raise money for it, started the need for the Reformation. There was very good reason and logic behind Martin Luther's published objections. Not that he didn't still have some of the "holy" errors still clinging to him. The Inquisition was entirely the fault of the intolerance of the Church of Rome, and there are even still Protestants, even in this USA, a child of the Enlightenment, who still walk in the Darkness of believing the Flat Earth tales of Genesis. You can blamelessly believe in a Flood if the Earth is flat or tray-shaped, and not too big. But people who know it's a planet, and a lot larger than Mesopotamia even with Egypt added, and still imagine a world wide flood covering the Blue Ridge mountains, you have to be really stupid.
@kristenungstad3252
@kristenungstad3252 6 лет назад
Societies of "honor killings" need to tweak things a little. Let that man marry the 10 year old girl. The second he says his vows, execute him and let the girl inherit all of his property. Her "honor" is restored and she becomes a wealthy, respectable widow and the trash gets taken out.
@tanjavankessel2548
@tanjavankessel2548 5 лет назад
Kristen Ungstad Sharia inheritance law is very different, a widow inherits only a small percentage. Most goes to male family members. Sons get twice as much as daughters.
@brifox
@brifox 5 лет назад
@@tanjavankessel2548 That's still infinitely preferable to an honor killing though. Rather a widow with some property in her name than an unwilling wife to a rapist, or dead.
@tanjavankessel2548
@tanjavankessel2548 5 лет назад
DynamicWorlds They have a complicated inheritance law under sharia, parents inherit a part even if there are a surviving spouse and children
@Casper1907
@Casper1907 5 лет назад
@nic sharp you are not very sharp in reality
@jandrews6254
@jandrews6254 4 года назад
Tanja Van Kessel ....and that is because the society believes that a woman has to be totally dependent on her husband, because if she receives an equal share of an inheritance to her brothers, she might get uppity and leave her husband to become independent of him. We can’t have that now can we. She has to be kept in her place, to serve her husband
@jimhart1621
@jimhart1621 9 лет назад
We can start by taking "In God We Trust" off of US currency; We are only hypocrites if we don't.
@jimhart1621
@jimhart1621 9 лет назад
ajs1031 True. The Information Age has exposed the "Elephant in the Room", that is Science. Most like myself, have been disgusted with religious extremist selfishly slaughtering their own kind for a shot at "eternity"; But I say, keep it up assholes, because that "critical idea threshold" you refer to will be a banishment of insane ideologies that are a direct threat to ALL peace-loving states around the globe, and they will gladly fight and eliminate any and ALL who choose this mindless pursuit; Death to All who kill in the name of invisible and imaginary "loving creators".
@TheEternalHater
@TheEternalHater 8 лет назад
+Jim Hart i take it off all currency i get. :) its not illegal, its only illegal to change or try to change the denomination or to counterfeit.
@ldchappell1
@ldchappell1 8 лет назад
+John Osman I would think "In Greed We Trust" would also be appropriate.
@jaredgibbs6074
@jaredgibbs6074 8 лет назад
+John Osman Actually as the US economy is no longer backed by the gold standard, that would be a false statement, maybe "In China We Trust" would the most appropriate as we owe them the most money.
@ldchappell1
@ldchappell1 8 лет назад
Jared Gibbs That "In China We Trust" zinger certainly makes one stop and think about the sell-out of the U.S.
@ieuanhunt552
@ieuanhunt552 9 лет назад
It is not "the blind leading the blind" it is the blind blinding the sighted
@timothyt.82
@timothyt.82 4 года назад
I can't see, so neither can you!
@kathleen5237
@kathleen5237 4 года назад
But they can't blind everyone
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 4 года назад
the blind forcing the following of the sighted under risk of eternal punishment
@macedip6737
@macedip6737 4 года назад
leuan Hunt funny that Jesus spoke to those have eyes let them see.
@brandonobaza8610
@brandonobaza8610 4 года назад
They cannot see! Let them wear glasses!
@bcburnettcom
@bcburnettcom 5 лет назад
I remember Science class 1979 , our teacher taught both evolution and creationism, the creationism portion went something like this, ' God did it but we can't prove that, now on to what science can prove'
@everydaydubs1713
@everydaydubs1713 2 года назад
I'm not quite that old (no offense intended lol), but this was even the way it was in high school in 2000. "Evolution is indeed a fact, but the Bible says otherwise, so....... lets teach you the "truth" real quick before we get to those facts."
@kellywalker1664
@kellywalker1664 Год назад
In the 80s,there were evolution chapters in our earth science textbooks as early as middle school, but they were avoided. I didn't get a solid coverage on evolution until I took a high school senior elective class on archaeology.
@yoseflopez5141
@yoseflopez5141 Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@petesampson4273
@petesampson4273 8 лет назад
I've been saying it for many years. We need to amend the 1st Amendment. I would call it Amendment 1a and it would go something like... "any government official who cites his/her personal religious beliefs as sole justification for public policy shall be immediately removed from office and forever barred from government service."
@beowulfandstuff5547
@beowulfandstuff5547 5 лет назад
I'd vote for that
@donaldcook5144
@donaldcook5144 5 лет назад
Aron is awesome in his breakdown of religious dogma and its danger to the world!!! He is so knowledgeable and facts driven!!
@brifox
@brifox 5 лет назад
Slight nitpick: it wouldn't be an amendment to an amendment, but just another amendment to the constitution. See Prohibition for an example of that.
@lidad8950
@lidad8950 5 лет назад
Oh my gosh look at these idiot guy he is so ugly n looks evil
@JanetDax
@JanetDax 5 лет назад
Amen and Hallalulah! Public Servants should be required by law to serve the public, not religion
@truthseekeratheist9105
@truthseekeratheist9105 6 лет назад
According to our Federal Constitution, the Higher Power is “We The People.”
@joerodriguez3475
@joerodriguez3475 3 года назад
almost every person in the United States that is deeply religious think that the constitution was not made for them they do not have to abide by it I have actually had a bunch of religious nut jobs turn around and tell me that the first amendment is wrong and they will never abide by it.
@joerodriguez3475
@joerodriguez3475 3 года назад
@Shawn Patrick good bet it would be scary remember through out history every time religious people and governments took away people's right to protect themselves the government and the religious became tyrannical.
@danmiller6462
@danmiller6462 7 лет назад
Very impressive. Every reason he gave is exactly why I left religion.
@daddyaf945
@daddyaf945 8 лет назад
A Texan I met said it best. "Learn the rules to make them work for you". I took this to mean that lazy thinking means that religious rules are best. They require little work and can be changed any time to mean anything. On the other hand science requires some real work but benifits everyone. Also science doesn't allow for the kind of manipulation that religious leaders engage.
@judellis8584
@judellis8584 4 года назад
God says I change not, the King James Bible is God's word it never changes it is said the same thing since I got saved
@SimberLayek
@SimberLayek 4 года назад
@@judellis8584 might wanna look into that
@LordDathka
@LordDathka Год назад
​@@judellis8584 Hate to burst your brainwashed bubble. King James was gay. Yes he had 7 children with Anne of Denmark. He was still attracted to men. One man he was attracted to goes by the name Robert Carr. A glamorous married courtier. Both were caught on several accounts having an affair. Funny how you believe in a fairy tale that Hates gay people yet the Bible was written by a gay man and 50 other scholars. Who were probably gay too because King James was a hoe lol you don't know what to believe in. I'll help you out, come back to reality and give up on the fairy tales written by primitive men.
@LordDathka
@LordDathka Год назад
​@@judellis8584 There was a Bible before King James 1600 rewritten Bible. It is called the Geneva Bible. Look it up. Your faith won't save you. Only free thought and intelligence will free you from religious persecution.
@michael.prescott4016
@michael.prescott4016 5 лет назад
this guy should go on national television
@regiman222
@regiman222 9 лет назад
AronRa for president!!
@aleatoriac7356
@aleatoriac7356 9 лет назад
***** Yeah pretty much. Unfortunately those who are most suited for political power never seek it.
@hornylink
@hornylink 9 лет назад
CODE-STATION bernie sanders is running, so that's something
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 9 лет назад
***** I'd vote for him.
@PaulfrmTXtoCO
@PaulfrmTXtoCO 9 лет назад
We already have too many morons in politics, don't need to add this one.
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 9 лет назад
PaulfrmTXtoCO Are you sure you didn't mean to say, "We already have to many morons in politics so let's vote for more people just like that." AronRa is anything but a moron. I know _you_ don't like him but you can't say the guy is not educated.
@bobbyduckett5465
@bobbyduckett5465 8 лет назад
I enjoy lying to children as much as the next guy. So, as long as we are teaching creation in science, I would like to teach them that Napoleon Dynamite is the cousin of Napoleon Bonaparte.
@mastermarkus5307
@mastermarkus5307 8 лет назад
Are you also going to say that they're Japanese so that the same forename thing makes sense?
@bobbyduckett5465
@bobbyduckett5465 8 лет назад
It makes MORE sense than teaching creation in science class. That is my fucking point. It wasn't a slip or an oversight. I meant to do it that way.
@mastermarkus5307
@mastermarkus5307 8 лет назад
Bobby Duckett No I get it, I was just having a bit of a joke.
@bobbyduckett5465
@bobbyduckett5465 8 лет назад
Meant to say creation in science class.
@brifox
@brifox 5 лет назад
If we're already changing the story, then it's only logical that we also add an "L" to the latter Napoleon's surname. Specifically right before the "O".
@TheUnRemarkableGamer
@TheUnRemarkableGamer 9 лет назад
I came from a fundy Texas Christian home who home schooled. I was given a textbook, homework, and a laptop to discover information with. The freethinking approach to my schooling is why I abandoned faith and found the wonders of scientific exploration. I always say homeschooling is good... when done like that and for the right kind of kids who enjoy that style of learning.
@MyOnlyFarph
@MyOnlyFarph 9 лет назад
Wouldn't it be great if we didn't complacently award power to systems which freely permit the stupid, the ignorant, and the malevolent to harm the rest of us?
@taiya001
@taiya001 6 лет назад
As a woman who deeply wants a baby girl I cannot express the depth of anger I feel for that poor 10 year old girl. I hate how we have people undeserving of parenthood getting those precious kids, while couples whom are nothing but kind and loving cannot.
@carterwood4197
@carterwood4197 5 лет назад
*who
@wickederebus
@wickederebus 5 лет назад
Try artificial insemination? Or just going at it all hours of the day and night starting about 5 days before your period, then keeping it up until about 2 days after your period. Basically just go at it, a lot. And then some more. Worked wonders for my family's ancestors
@amandarios448
@amandarios448 4 года назад
@@wickederebus ugghh. It's the 15th day after the start of the period. 5 days before your period, and during your period ARE NOT FERTILE DAYS. Your period literally destroys the inner linning of your uterus and throws you egg away... So if period is too near you're at the wrong time.
@wickederebus
@wickederebus 4 года назад
@@amandarios448 hm. My high school health class text book might be out of date then.
@amandarios448
@amandarios448 4 года назад
@@wickederebus definitely unless it's about dogs or non human mammals
@sylvie7868
@sylvie7868 5 лет назад
AronRa we need more people like you. Your effort to both identify and understand opposing ideologies as the greatest way to persuade the very detractors who refuse to see reason is honestly amazing. We need more.
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 3 года назад
Quite
@rapsodiblue4505
@rapsodiblue4505 9 лет назад
If you can't imagine what the USA would be like dominated by an Islamic form of Government, you can get a hint by looking at the actions of Christians in the US who already hold some level of government office - like the ones described in the speech. Thanks Aron, any chance of an unholy trinity in the UK?
@wickederebus
@wickederebus 5 лет назад
Or just look at the areas of the world already under their control.
@jandrews6254
@jandrews6254 4 года назад
Wicked Erebus or just look at the parts of the US which are under the heel of bible thumping evangelical christians. The only difference is in the name
@monstrdog7031
@monstrdog7031 Год назад
It is painful how relevant all this still is, possibly even more so
@MsDjessa
@MsDjessa 7 лет назад
I got to tell you Aron. Hugo and Jake at Bible Reloaded made me realize I have been an atheist this whole time. But you have made me an antitheist.
@preflex3502
@preflex3502 5 лет назад
@jfsfrnd The guy who wrote in _The Age of Reason_ , "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." That guy? Why would MsDjessa have a problem with him? Paine was a deist, but he died before the publication of _The Origin of the Species_ . He despised religion as much as anyone else, and had he lived 100 years later, would have certainly been an atheist.
@MikeBenko
@MikeBenko 7 лет назад
It's amazing that the Founding Fathers that Fundamentalists so often appeal to would have hated their guts if they met in person.
@dronexfun8469
@dronexfun8469 5 лет назад
Billions of people don't live in reality, imagine what humanity could accomplish if everyone was. I wish I could see a world that never went through the inquisition or the dark ages and the Library of Alexandria never burnt down.
@mikedavey1996
@mikedavey1996 9 лет назад
An excellent and yet disturbing talk by Aron Ra.
@EntropyVX
@EntropyVX 9 лет назад
I have no idea why some people don't believe evolution. That would be like saying "I don't believe in oxygen"
@IlGreven
@IlGreven 9 лет назад
Which, until the mid 18th century, nobody did. :)
@Clipstreu
@Clipstreu 9 лет назад
"I CANT SEE GERMS! SHOW ME SOME GERMS! ITS JUST A THEORY! YALL ARE TRYING TO INDOCTRINATE ME INTO A GERMIST!"
@Dreamspawn1978
@Dreamspawn1978 9 лет назад
Clipstreu you joke now but a hundred and odd years ago there WERE people who claimed it was lies about germs and the it was the devil making u sick...
@davidlewis6728
@davidlewis6728 9 лет назад
Richard Scanlon religion is misconception, corruption and lies.
@Dreamspawn1978
@Dreamspawn1978 9 лет назад
Ya think? Lol
@zeldaofarel
@zeldaofarel 9 лет назад
Anyone wondering, the mullah was sentenced to 20 years in prison. I don't know if the girl is okay, no recent news since the sentence.
@eric4719
@eric4719 4 года назад
Thank you for clarifying that since the thought of that evil beast escaping punishment left me seething! And sentence should have been 200 years in my opinion.
@veterinarius7646
@veterinarius7646 4 года назад
Hopefully his asshole got ripped in jail
@kuttr-654
@kuttr-654 9 лет назад
a beautiful sunday morning, free from oppressive weakminde idiots catching up on some AronRa lectures . he's one of the most intelligent speakers i've had tthe pleasure of hearing. if he can't get a public office in Texass, i'd vote for him in Florida. his influence is needed in all public schools.
@samartzis2000
@samartzis2000 8 лет назад
AronRa IS THE MAN!! Keep up the good work dude!
@ednelson2501
@ednelson2501 8 лет назад
+Paul Samartzis By the time I watched this presentation. The thumbs up v thumbs down vote seems to be leaning slightly in his favour. By a 97.27578 % margin. So not only does he know what he is speaking about, people seem to agree also.
@swagmund_freud6669
@swagmund_freud6669 8 лет назад
#AronRa2016
@CabinInTheBigWoods
@CabinInTheBigWoods 7 лет назад
tam hill rA'Men !! Lol
@samartzis2000
@samartzis2000 7 лет назад
+LilCabinInTheBigWoods lol!
@sefcakjames8254
@sefcakjames8254 6 лет назад
AronRa, you're the man, keep it up.
@tracewallace23
@tracewallace23 3 года назад
This should be required viewing for ALL Americans 👍😎
@0x777
@0x777 7 лет назад
Creationism being taught in school can be found in three places on this planet: The middle East A few countries the name of which ends in -stan The USA The rest of the world went through the Age of Reason and left fairy tales behind.
@tanjavankessel2548
@tanjavankessel2548 5 лет назад
0x777 Creationism is also taught in islamic schools in Western Europe and in a few fundamentalist christian schools
@0x777
@0x777 5 лет назад
@Se Ou Guess someone is pissed that I don't think his imaginary friend exists... But I'm sure you can point to some other countries where the fairy tale of "a wizard wiggled his fingers and the world made poof and there it was" is taught as if it had any connection with reality.
@0x777
@0x777 5 лет назад
@Se Ou Look, I don't feel like educating you. There have to be people who flip my burgers, so I guess we're all happy the way things are.
@quietone2674
@quietone2674 5 лет назад
The first time I ever read Genesis was in college. The good news is that it was in my Folklore and Fantasy class where we were going over creation myths. It was a creative writing-type class. I remember while I read thinking, "that's wrong, that's the wrong order, that *could* be right if you interpreted it a certain way...that doesn't make sense...wait, is the snake the good guy here?" That was what went in my head when I read the story of Adam and Eve.
@0x777
@0x777 5 лет назад
@Se Ou And yes, I'd like to have fries with that.
@watchtowerwitch4426
@watchtowerwitch4426 4 года назад
Hot Damn..... this is worthy of 50 rewatches......
@pastorofmuppets4552
@pastorofmuppets4552 7 лет назад
As an Atheist and a libertarian, I say public schools shouldn't teach creationism.
@jessiehermit9503
@jessiehermit9503 7 лет назад
Kildar Telling people that they can't teach their own children their religion won't work. Too many people will protest, and they have a right to teach their own children.
@Gerroditus
@Gerroditus 6 лет назад
Wow, I didn't know there was still an intelligent, honest branch of the Republican Party...there's a ray of hope.
@jessiehermit9503
@jessiehermit9503 5 лет назад
@David Ferguson Yeah, I did.
@richterman3962
@richterman3962 5 лет назад
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic563 good luck with that one, feelings are more important now
@andrewharper1609
@andrewharper1609 4 года назад
They should be sued for fraud because they aren't educating the children.
@isaiahjohnston823
@isaiahjohnston823 2 года назад
Aron ra, is a legend, I could listen to him until my ears bleed!!!💯👍👍👍....
@nyssathurisaz7052
@nyssathurisaz7052 9 лет назад
I believe in the Gods of Metal \m/
@musiqal333
@musiqal333 4 года назад
Aron, I have to admit. Your story about the girl baiting you to come to her home, with the family speaking in tongues is quite scary and Hilarious at the same time. I myself have seen so many instances of tongue speaking in my growing up as well. It's truly insane.
@YeahButNah100
@YeahButNah100 9 лет назад
Aron my friend i think this is some of the most gripping material you have ever done. Well done for covering this.
@ChrischrosBelgium
@ChrischrosBelgium 8 лет назад
The fall of christianity was due to the great steps of science.
@wickederebus
@wickederebus 5 лет назад
And its habit of tearing itself apart. The great schism that made the Greek Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church Then the RCC having the Protestant Reformation. And it just spirals outnof control after that
@antitheist3206
@antitheist3206 8 лет назад
10:56 Holy crap!!!He referenced one of my favorite Futurama episodes!
@moodyrick8503
@moodyrick8503 3 года назад
A warrior of logic fighting against the tyranny of flawed reasoning and fallacious beliefs. "Fight The Good Fight", you are a HERO to all who see religion for what it is. (make believe)
@bunzeebear2973
@bunzeebear2973 6 лет назад
Ouch! what a battle. In my public school saying the Lord's Prayer was banned 1964.
@andrewharper1609
@andrewharper1609 4 года назад
I wish the schools I attended had done the same.
@joschafinger126
@joschafinger126 3 года назад
By now it's 2021, and I'm writing this from the other side of the Atlantic. Here and now, the battles fought over in 'merica seem so unreal, I find it hard to even express it. I live in one of the most 'Catholic' countries of the EU, Spain (as an immigrant from Germany). This is a country where students in pre-university education can pick Religious Education as an optional subject, being given the choice between Catholic Religion and Catholic Religion, or an alternative nobody takes seriously. I myself, back in Germany loads of years ago (I'm 42 now), took RE because it was really cool to get top marks for continuously questioning the teacher's beliefs and learning stuff that was really useful for the real subjects, such as Literature and History. As for the latter, I'm talking about the motivations of the crusaders and suchlike. Even back then, and in the experience of my Spanish partner, the sh***t peddled by American conservatives today would have seemed 17th-century. A high school teacher and second-generation atheist myself, some of the colleagues I've come to like best have been RE teachers. Most or all of the RE teachers I've known have been well-versed in the Satanic Bible and the Quran, and they've always accepted my Satanic Blessing (sure, knowing I've adopted it to make fun of Christian-inspired idioms common in Spain). None of them has ever questioned evolution, and those of them I questioned about Creationism/ID have all seemed somewhat embarrassed about their supposed coreligionists. Here in Europe, most of those who still believe in a God (Jews and Christians at least, and quite a few Muslims) think that their god of choice saved himself a bit of work by setting up the laws of evolution and letting it play out. Plus, almost everyone here thinks that if there is a god he spoke in riddles, and you basically go with the set of riddles that for one reason or another chimes best with your cultural and personal identity. Believers might not express it that way, but it's the underlying principle. That principle has two names: secularism and religious freedom. It hurts me to see the country where it first made its way into the Constitution slide back into a theocracy. It fills me with fear that the one-time beacon of liberty and progress should be turning into a byword, a symbol of regression, irrationality, oppression. That it should become the laughing stock of the world, that it should be morphing into a Gideon. Keep up the fight, Aron, and all you others who fight on the same side, who fight ignorance and theocratic fascism. In the end we will win, and by spreading the word of reason we still may do so before the world is changed beyond recognition by folks who think that Bronze Age fairy tales are all you need to know, or who exploit such beliefs for their own ends.
@campfireaddict6417
@campfireaddict6417 3 года назад
As an American, it's painful to see religion's choke hold on this country and it's vile attempted strangulation of scientific facts. It shows. For example, it's almost impossible to go into a clinic/hospital that's 100% staffed with Americans due to the fact that hospitals tend to hire top-notch proven professionals and many come from the developed European/Eastern countries because they have much higher standards for discipline, education, and commitment in general, and this starts young. In America too many families get away with atrocities by claiming "religious grounds" to homeschool (which is usually a disaster) or refuse blood transfusions or the twisted "Quiver Full" movement, transparent cop-outs for insecure, uneducated people who use god as an excuse, and get away with it because even more alarming, it has it's poison tentacles in some lawmakers who will do anything to get votes. Texas is proof. Abstinence only is taught because pre-marital sex isn't godly, and birth control is evil while that state has the highest percentage of teen pregnancies, and worse, repeat teen pregnancies which does nothing to raise the bar on education and a secure future. But it keeps the tax payers coming. This country is getting worse and religion has a big part of it.
@johnboettcher1962
@johnboettcher1962 2 года назад
Send help
@teresaharris9134
@teresaharris9134 9 лет назад
it might not go so well but you should run for president just for the coverage and tv time.
@dekky3908
@dekky3908 9 лет назад
Your quote of "freedom of religion, requires freedom from religion" was a meaningful and important concept. I haven't been religious since middle school (20 years ago), I renounced god early in life and suffered for it socially. I was considered a devil worshiper because I did not believe in Christianity in a small Christian community. However I am not the victim, and its bullshit to play that card. The uneducated are the victims, those who do not understand the basics of the scientific method. Those who are convinced that evolution is some kind of religion. If transparency were the religion, none of this would even be necessary...
@Troubleshooter125
@Troubleshooter125 9 лет назад
Aron, I have a serious problem: the more I watch your videos, the more I like them and I wind up watching more and more OF them! [wry chuckle!] Thank you for so eloquently and with such detail stating just why it is that the emperor is, indeed, starkers before us!
@373323
@373323 9 лет назад
Thank you. you nailed it, nailed it and then nailed it again. respects my friend.
@RadarKat73080
@RadarKat73080 7 лет назад
I'd imagine what it would be like to have either of those two guys, Perry or Cruz, as President; but I can't stop screaming in horror long enough!
@RickReasonnz
@RickReasonnz 5 лет назад
How exactly does Alabama select their chief justices? Whoever has the most convoluted family tree?
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 3 года назад
Yup
@charleswoodard8478
@charleswoodard8478 3 года назад
It’s more like a family wreath.
@CazzyVR
@CazzyVR 2 года назад
Whomever fucked their cousin the most
@nandobreiter4075
@nandobreiter4075 9 лет назад
Great talk. As far as I'm concerned, you could give this speech every week!
@KeshmarOrange
@KeshmarOrange 9 лет назад
DAMMIT ARONRA YOU SUPPOSED TO DROP THE MIC WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
@wickederebus
@wickederebus 5 лет назад
He's to polite to break it.
@secularmerica9425
@secularmerica9425 9 лет назад
Thanks for this incredible video.
@stephenalexander6721
@stephenalexander6721 7 лет назад
Missouri, the "you can show me but I won't look state"
@CrazyBeardedGamer
@CrazyBeardedGamer 4 года назад
I keep being told I should vote. But I just cannot bring myself to vote for any person who openly claims to believe in superstition.
@karldubhe8619
@karldubhe8619 11 месяцев назад
Vote for the one who you suspect of lying about that. An atheist could not get elected in the USA in most areas. Of course, both politicians are lying about their faith; one party seems to be more keen than the other one about letting the priests rule though. Just a thought, for an old comment.
@MagnaOmerta
@MagnaOmerta 9 лет назад
I wish I found these videos a long time ago.
@deanb4799
@deanb4799 3 года назад
I've given up trying to go to sleep to you Aron. Just too damn interesting. I'm a zombie at work lol.
@Ernoskij
@Ernoskij 5 лет назад
I'm so glad I live in a country where you have to teach your kids according to a standard national plan, so they can pass an exam after the 9th yeah of schooling
@anertia
@anertia 6 лет назад
Damn. "Do the children in this country have a right to be educated?" is one of the best points I've heard in a long time. Variations of that argument could debunk the entirety of modern US libertarianism.
@martinlag1
@martinlag1 9 лет назад
I saw your unholy trinity 'down under' . I have never noticed you repeat a talk. I think your research is amazing, Mr Ra.
@scraberdash4286
@scraberdash4286 5 лет назад
Martin Lagerwey reminds me of the little parody I made of the holy trinity in the church I’m forced to go to Dog The yo-yo spirit And yeezees(did I even spell that right)? This is meant to be extremely shitty
@stanmcserr8576
@stanmcserr8576 7 лет назад
I weep for the human species (and all the poor animals that must share the Earth with us).
@incisivecommenter5974
@incisivecommenter5974 2 года назад
Love AR, thank you for posting these.👍👍👍
@tywinlannister.7473
@tywinlannister.7473 8 лет назад
Christians United for National Traditions.
@vladislavdracula1763
@vladislavdracula1763 8 лет назад
What?
@Psittacosaurus
@Psittacosaurus 8 лет назад
Vladislav Dracula The acronym Tywin made, se what the capitalized letters spell?
@jerryroberts8367
@jerryroberts8367 8 лет назад
lmao! :)
@jerryroberts8367
@jerryroberts8367 8 лет назад
lmao! :)
@hmshood4142
@hmshood4142 6 лет назад
C.U.N.T nice one
@BottleConcreteBlond
@BottleConcreteBlond 9 лет назад
I would almost be okay with worshiping ABBA. (Almost). I love Dancing Queen.
@NephilimIncorruptus
@NephilimIncorruptus 9 лет назад
I was thrilled to be able to be present at this speech. I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you for attending our convention!
@prestonbacchus4204
@prestonbacchus4204 5 месяцев назад
Thank you, Aron, another good one. Yep.
@brianred8
@brianred8 4 года назад
The people who claim to hate Government the most, believe in giving the exact type of power to the government that they fear the most about government having.
@robertcorbell1006
@robertcorbell1006 9 лет назад
AronRa for president!!!
@ahoneybee823
@ahoneybee823 7 лет назад
"I'm glad Rick Perry will not be our governor anymore." Just wait until he's head of the Department of Energy.
@03Mach1
@03Mach1 9 лет назад
+AronRa I love listening to your videos. Every time I finish watching one I feel even smarter. I've been an atheist my entire life and the knowledge you share only strengthens my decision to be a reasonable free thinking human being. Thank you Aron.
@blancagutierrez2132
@blancagutierrez2132 5 лет назад
It's funny. I live in Mexico a catholic contry, i went to a catholic highschool and they teach me about Darwin, evolution, the history AND religions of other countries.
@susanmaggiora4800
@susanmaggiora4800 4 года назад
Connieotaku Gutiérrez Well, the Vatican has accepted the theory of evolution, so it’s not too shocking that a catholic school would teach it.
@Roedygr
@Roedygr 6 лет назад
Rick Perry is now secretary of energy. He can do plenty of damage there.
@helpyourcattodrive
@helpyourcattodrive 3 года назад
I’m loving AronRa. I was unaware of all this. I wasn’t raised in church whatsoever ... live in Los Angeles Venice beach. My family is bad/nuts but in a different way ... Thank you for all the good info
@philosophicaljay3449
@philosophicaljay3449 9 лет назад
Seeing this in person was more than awesome.
@chucks172
@chucks172 9 лет назад
Great speech as usual!
@johnjones_1501
@johnjones_1501 9 лет назад
Aron, going to school in East Tennesse, I was taught all the crackpot theories you mentioned around the 18:50 mark in school by science and social studies teachers at various times. It was only because I had other teachers, in those same subjects, who taught the truth, and my later desire to learn the truth for myself, when I was near thirty, that I ever figured out they were wrong. BTW, all the "science" and "social studies" teachers who taught the crackpot stuff happened to also be coaches on the various school athletic teams, who had no education in the subjects that they taught, but were given the job to do so, only so that they would be on hand to coach the sports teams.
@ChristoMac
@ChristoMac 5 лет назад
I thoroughly enjoy Aron, he's extremely intelligent and I learn something new every time. Thanks Aron
@ferretfather2000
@ferretfather2000 6 лет назад
YAY! Aron watches Futurama! I feel good knowing a sensible person watches the same cartoons as I do. :D
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 9 лет назад
The Reptoids are from the _Draco_ star system (Sirius would've been home to dogs, not reptiles!), Aron. Other than that, though, you're spot on. The homeschooling moment, with the girl who ran away so she could go to real school reminded me of that one South Park episode. Girl: But dad, I want to know everything [about evolution]! Dad: No you don't!
@__cornflake__4252
@__cornflake__4252 8 месяцев назад
I'm from Missouri and yeah...I'm embarrased because of this stuff in our state. I had a high school science teacher who taught us that a meteor didn't kill the dinosaurs. She also gave bible study lessons to a student. However, she was reasonable, and I convinced her that a meteor really did kill the dinosaurs when I showed her the picture of the crater in Mexico. Also, the bible lessons weren't during school time. Still, a bit weird.
@intellectualiconoclasm3264
@intellectualiconoclasm3264 4 года назад
The only way to ensure religious liberty is to legally favour NONE. It's a protective measure for the Self as much as for the Other.
@blackice9088
@blackice9088 4 года назад
I agree, those professing deeply held religious beliefs, should NOT be allowed to hold any public office. Religion needs to be pushed out of politics...
@okiepita50t-town28
@okiepita50t-town28 5 лет назад
We need to take any reference to God out of the pledge of allegiance also. That only started when Eisenhower was president.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 года назад
It was an anti-Communist measure that made some sense for the time in which it was implemented, the height of the Cold War, and the reasoning carried over into the War on Islamic Terror to a point, although the Islamoterrorists were made into the shape they were in the first place by anti-Communist measures thinking that "they're Abrahamist religious Patriarchies, and therefore perfect allies against the godless Commies!", and we see how that turned out in the end...
@joschafinger126
@joschafinger126 3 года назад
You need to get rid of the pledge of allegiance, I'd say. Something like it, in a secular form, is fine for soldiers. But for kids who are to be the citizens of a democracy? I don't think so.
@DarkLordLinkOfficial
@DarkLordLinkOfficial 9 лет назад
The whole bit about a race between atheists and Muslims to either save or destroy America was pretty scary
@richardlewin9282
@richardlewin9282 2 года назад
Awesome 👍 thanks Aron
@franciscojeronimo5881
@franciscojeronimo5881 9 лет назад
At minute 20 I was sudenly reminded of girl called Malala. Texas kids getting an education are now required almost the same amout of courage then girls born in 3rd world extremist muslin coutries. Wellcome to the 1st world guys, we are narrowing the difference.
@pop5678eye
@pop5678eye Год назад
Would these evangelicals be okay if I teach 'both sides' about the Bible during their Sunday sermon? Let's teach the congregation about all the contradictions and immorality of stories found in their mythology. Condoning mass murder, slavery, rape and incest not to mention the death penalty for working on the Sabbath are all in their scripture! Let's teach ALL of that!
@kokofan50
@kokofan50 9 лет назад
That bit about germ theory was a gut punch.
@ultrcombraun1559
@ultrcombraun1559 3 года назад
Lol
@severenhill7480
@severenhill7480 7 лет назад
You instill me with hope for the world i really hope you win your campaign and please never stop with the videos, unless you become president then it would be acceptable
@niconestra
@niconestra 3 года назад
Hello from 2021. From the current state of the nation, it's quite evident of what truth is. "The blood of Jesus will protect me!"
@ilduce5874
@ilduce5874 Год назад
Ah, yes - Roy “I prefer jailbait” Moore, that exemplar of moral authority and wholesome Xian values … 😂
@IanAtkinson555
@IanAtkinson555 9 лет назад
The Inequity of Religious Freedom.
@pdoylemi
@pdoylemi 9 лет назад
I personally appreciate Rick Perry. Laughter is the best medicine, and Perry has done more for the the nation's health than universal healthcare ever could:-)
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 9 лет назад
Yes, but we're (Atheists) the only ones laughing, the theists take him very seriously.
@BSpinoza210
@BSpinoza210 3 года назад
You hit the nail on the head there. "The burden of proof has been shifted...critics have to prove...a negative with scientific certainty"
@gertjanvandermeij4265
@gertjanvandermeij4265 5 лет назад
Not jesus , but Harry Potter , must be the real son of god , they both can do magic :-)
@gilesw9178
@gilesw9178 9 лет назад
Suits me. It makes it much easier to place Chinese students in good US universities.
@Direkin
@Direkin 9 лет назад
It's always great to hear AronRa's talks. I just wish he had time to make more, but he's probably making a greater difference in his current position.
@tupacrandy
@tupacrandy 9 лет назад
Great informational video.
@nasterbmf
@nasterbmf 5 лет назад
What is creationism "god did it." Course over
@LIZABETHYEAUX666
@LIZABETHYEAUX666 4 года назад
nathan johnson just all of the good stuff. Only the good stuff.
@TheReinaLia
@TheReinaLia 7 лет назад
Love how AronRa flicks his hair back
@KoRntech
@KoRntech 2 года назад
This really aged well, It might be worth the effort to revisit this video and compare it to where we're at now in 2022. Clearly Trumpism may have nearly doubled those numbers of unreasonable people in office as well as citizens.
@jdgrahamo
@jdgrahamo 9 лет назад
Thank you Aron Ra -- it would be nice to be able to hear the questions at the end.
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