The Insane Falling Of The Shield Hero 

he pretty much completet his entire charakter arc in 1 season. There is no lore rising he can do

Just like SAO where SAO should've ended by the end of the Aincrad.

He basically rose about 99% of the things keeping him down within the first few episodes. He just had some loose ends to tie up and he did that by the end of the first season.

@@nurusds3 True

@@tranngockha6562 was my argument before Reki released the sao progressive series

why do i feel like i’ve heard this all before the video

"your honor I literally can't stop them, I can't can't kill them, the slave crests aren't working, they won't listen to me"

What the Flock eh?

I agree. I will now quote this myself.....

What does it mean

Yep and instead of going for begrudging allies-rivals other three heroes left to be 2d morons.

This is exactly why I didn't continue through with the show, the premise is good at first until everything became cartoonishly stupid.

@@berobero686 plus his party becomes objectively better than them too

Actually, the heroes except for Motoyasu had great arc in the start. Ren thought that it was like a video game and acted such, and Itsuki was a stuck up teen thinking he's the best. Then they turned to be cartoonish in s2, and s3 did them dirty

@@margaritasuslonova3633 they are parodies on gamer MC tropes and they just didnt do anything cool with them. There objectively no need for 3heroes and their entourage except to dunk on them, and even that done very mid

big facts

Season 1 was amazing to me, after season 2 I don't really want to watch season 3

@@Reverend_MohgWatch season 3 bit worse then season 1 much better then season 2

I watched for Raphtalia, but the garbage plot was too insufferable for me.

Yeah man like redo of the healer revenge plot is insane 😅

shoulda brought the idea of the queen helping him out then killed off the queen that way naofumi could suffer more and still have a reason to hate everything and everyone

iirc the queen couldn't actually solve it herself because she was out fixing things and in the mean time Naofumi had become hated and an outcast

The queen has ninjas. She can easily decree from far away. Like I said, she was aware of it because the ninjas were aware of it. @@mikemorro140

Indeed, there is no reason to hate anyone anymore. The issue was solved, so the whole premise of the series is gone pretty fast. @@awdsmj

Is this the part in the manga where Naofumi met the youngest daughter, then the Queen came back and dealt punishment to the king and eldest daughter while vindicating Naofumi? So it all went downhill after that even in the manga? I caught up in the manga at that point and probably the arc after that with a giant turtle or something but never finished.

That's bcoz she can manipulate

I'm guessing you die before the end of episode 1

personally I do think that was a misstep. in the original WN malty wasn't directly involved with them, she basically was in the background profiting from itsuki being delusional with armor feeding on his delusion and ren kind of being an extreme loner and becoming a bandit as a result of his cursed series. though I think that some stuff from the WN should have stuck. the part above was actually much better because istuki who continuously accused naofumi of holding a brainwashing shield actually gets a brainwashing bow himself and said bow is used by armor, the church of 3, and malty to take down naofumi by harnessing its powers. the calmira arc was personally a mis step since it was a really fun way to parallel what would happen in the end. that and I think the party switch was legitimately a good way for naofumi to understand the heroes and their party better. everyone except bitch 1, 2, and armor had no complains about the party whereas they had issues with raphtalia and filo cept motoyasu. heck naofumi actually decides to put himself in their shoes and agrees that in their situation he might have done the same thing. basically I could go in depth as to what the LN should have kept from the WN and what the LN should not have done.

I guess you dont like any anime then. Majority of Manga and anime stories have characters that do dumb shit, many times being the main character. Thats just how stories make drama. If everyone acted rationally and made good decisions, things would be too smooth.

it was not afun drinkign game gyus

Yeah, I was just arguing with someone over that the other day. Most of his problems get solved fairly quickly and he does nothing but win from a certain point onward, but he still spends almost all of Season 2 acting like no one has it worse than him There is an explanation for it that comes *much later* but in the meantime the MC just feels like a brat for no apparent reason.

@@InfernosReaper Honestly, the main plot of the anime ended too fast, I expected it to finish in season 2. Even the manga it ended it fast.

@@zeer7676 Looking back on it, everything that could have been interesting is rushed through, while the stuff that seems like filler drags on. I actually tried to watch Season 3 recently and when his village randomly gets attacked while *no one* of substance is there to defend it, I just found myself scratching my head. He's been going on and on about his efforts to boost the combat effectiveness of his lands, but *somehow it's worse* than it was in Season 2. It's honestly as if things happen more for attempted shock value or forced tension than as a logical progression of the narrative.

I agree. I love the concept of the story overall, but the execution of it was poor. It’s one of those stories where my biggest complaint is it wasn’t longer

Frl that had me pissed Manz finally about to crash out then that rat ass girl always talks him down 😂😂

"But your honor they flock to me", he said calmly

My favorite moment in the entire series was when Naofumi first did the Iron Maiden attack

its my little pony

@@TheShadow1347 the vocals in that scene go so hard but every clip of it on youtube has some dumbass music that crunchyroll added in their upload of the clip that ruins it.

Am glad i never returned

I guess I made the right decision to drop the manga lol.

Well you really can't do much when the source material turns to shit after the first 3-4 novels.

​@@vk-eg3rosurprisingly the manga is better than the anime

@@weikwang7881 In my opinion it got worse at the end of turtle arc.

Thats why he said OVA lol it was a joke

Idk konosuba is ass to me. Dont see why people love it but hey everyones got different taste.

@@SkipallAds I mean its a comedy, with a bit of love story mixed in and a bit of action. Nothing more.

@@SkipallAds it's a parody anime, That's why people love it

It really is the generic isekai slop I crave when I'm waiting for the actual good anime's to drop episodes

@@eliaspanayi3465 same man

then you don't watch anything correct?

@@ZuriMastersThomas you haven't watched much of anything if you think this is all there is

Same reason here. The only reason I ever watched beyond episode 2 was because a friend of mine played a few episodes during a sleepover, after which everyone else collectively told him to shut it down and play literally anything else. He put on Boku No Pico. Everyone watched every minute of it just to spite him.

Heres's the thing though, if you read the web novel (not the l8ghtnovel), you'll feel that naofumi travelling to another world doesnt exist at this point of the story and this arc felt like a drag in both the LN and the anime.

The thing is, it's revealed that there are still religions that hate the Shield Hero, but it's just a nonissue or it's glossed over. Like in season 3, Shield Hero wanted to kill traffickers that destroyed the Demi-Human village, but pink-haired Sword human was like "don't, that could cause a war because of their beliefs". But then they found a loop hole where they were able to force the traffickers into slavery?

@@wahidpawana424 You are 100% right, I read both and the light novel tries to add new plot points where there really shouldn't be any. The pacing of the web novel was really good imo and there were less characters which thus got more relative screen time (although I think the other heros were kind of neglected)

@@cam3127 she has a much better character development in the webnovel, in that she straight up help Naofumi capture and enslaved bandits, and use their loot in their hidden HQ to rebuild the village.

@@wahidpawana424 Damn bro, that shit just didn't happen in the anime. If anything turning them into slaves was like a joke/lighter moment in the show.

sadly, the Spirit Turtle was actually a major plot point in the light novels. It was something could not be ignored because it could and was going to destroy the world to save the world. Entire armies were massacred fighting it on their own and during the arc where the shield hero fought it. In the anime... it got reduced to "look, giant monster with bad man!" . In the light novel, Naofumi learned things such as that he couldn't do EVERYTHING on his own and had to start relying on others around him and he had to learn it the hard way as roughly half of the world's armies were wiped out in that one event under his watch. He was still competent and made better decisions than even most of the rulers, but he realized how much authority and influence the heroes had in the world and even questioned his own choices, but he could not undo what was already done and instead began investing into how the world could survive if the heroes didn't stick around due to a lot of evidence seeming to indicate that they would disappear.

@@nathanielbass771 Also the fact that Raphtalia decimated it with ease and it was reduced to, "It'll come back but you'll have to kill X to subdue it for good."

I basically lost interest in anime there.

I watched all of it and only remember the first season. It wasn’t even worth the storage capacity and it wasn’t a conscious choice. I could probably watch season 2 again and it would be like being freshly disappointed all over again.

I wholeheartedly agree. I loved the lack of romance, the feeling of naofumi as more of a dad than love interest. The shield being unable to attack made combat interesting; even when it was able to do damage with the shield of wrath, it had a price. I loved the overal lonely/exploratory feeling from it. Then he got a massive crew, Atla literally forcing him into romance, and by volume 15 of the LNs I realized I Just didn't enjoy this series anymore.

you should read "The Hero Who Seeks Revenge Shall Exterminate With Darkness"....man took revenge on whole nother level and kept the revenge as satisfying as possible on every account

Dus you comment all of this without finishing the video?

You under say and minimise the potential and sadly the waste betrayal of the premisce tho other than that i agree.

I liked the second season

I stopped at the second season this video helped me realize I dodged a bullet.

The only reason why it was so horrible is because it was crammed into 12 episodes

3rd one is okayge thus far imo. not that good but it feels as if they caught up to s1 a bit. Its watchable

I dropped season two and just started watching season three

👍

Honestly, I enjoy the Spear Hero Manga more since he’s actually a cooler person and genuinely friends with Naofumi

Motoyasu was mistreated by the story so hard, I feel bad for the guy as he was a punching bag for most of his time on screen and his last major character development is literally becoming insane while also developing an unhealthy obsession in Filo, who is a minor both mentally and physically. His character is fun in reprise of the spear hero but I would be lying if I said I wish he was not insane at times, his potential is great but the story treats him like a joke that isn't fun at times... I even tried to see if fanfictions handled his character in a more positive and good way but was met with disappointement

@@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 True, i feel bad for him as a person because like the other heroes he was made to be too stupid to feel realistic just to elevate Naofumi. I still think he is funny though and his development is unique for a novel/anime character and i guess my love for him came from the spear hero novels which are still my favorite pieces of content from the author.

Nope still dislike both my favorite morphed into whale girl

Wow I haven't read the light novels so to hear that motoyasu is better in them is a good thing. Really irritates me how many young girls there are in the series but his obsession with Filo is horrible. I really disliked he had mages come up with a way to help him stop her transforming into her bird form simply for his own preference of her. I actually think the second or third seasons should've been about the other heroes now having to redeem themselves. Each of them had glaring flaws and when melty was revealed as a liar and for easily wrapping specifically the spear hero around her finger he should've taken the brunt of the people's disgust. After all the cardinal heroes are extremely powerful compared to the regular soldiers of the world, the fact that they were making such easy mistakes and being misled by others so easily really should've had consequences for them. These are guys who can overthrow government on their own, the bow hero already did once. They should be held accountable. Seems like season 3 in the anime is trying to do some of this but I don't particularly enjoy the execution of it.

How am I supposed to remember someone the people writing the anime forgot as well☠️

their own fucking universe forgot about her lol how was i supposed to remember that?

wtf? I dont even remember this characters face. This was in S3 right?

@@scottallen2966 Yeah. She was at the start of the arc with the baby dragon.

@@scottallen2966 yess shes in s3, she was never seen again lmao

The Rising of the Shield Hero was a Webnovel at first and while there were some plot changes the main story beats are all still there.

Source: I made it up. Obviously this is not how the OP says it is.

@@schwarzflammenkaiser2347 Web novels work in the same way. They need to publish chapters regularly to keep their audience. They ultimately produce the same, if not more content than traditional light novel publishing.

The author of Spice and Wolf is a good example of someone who had it all at least somewhat all planned out from the start. That novel was so good.

@@lawmanlawman2210 Spice and Wolf was not planned out and the author says as much in his afterwards. He started out strong with 5 novels, then he had to sprinkle in side stories for a bit to stall. He then set up an endless journey for the next few volumes that lowers the quality. He then decides to end the story so the last volumes are much tighter moving towards a clear goal. When he brought back Spice and Wolf a few years ago with Spring Logs, those are set up as an endless journey. However, he takes around a year to write each one so he has had no need to rush.

Yeah i wonder if Mushoku Tensei is gonna end up same. First Season was really good even if they left out some stuff from LN and Manga that would make even better background for characters because let's say from Anime viewer standpoint it's easy to hate on Eris from LN and Manga reader she is one of the best characters and Season 2 also leaved some important information and i don't like that they made Sylph looking as morally good as she is in Anime because in manga she literally tried to kill Paul and later Nanahoshi without actually giving a sh... about it just because she got angry.

@@thechosenone729 When did that happen? I'm a light novel reader well past the story of season 2, but I don't remember Sylphie interacting with Paul like that

@@Robberator When he thrown Rudeus into cart to send him away for the job tutoring Eris.

Nah this only happens to revenge isekai trope stories like Shield Hero. They bait you with the (not) satisfying revenge premise, only to show you how it's actually just another garbage isekai post-revenge arc. I'm actually confused how people was surprised/mad how trashy it was after S1. Like, are y'all blind or what?

@@rampagepotato4307 I'd argue this happens in any setup where the MC starts from zero and you want to see him progress. A lot of shows take him to the top way too quickly, so for the rest of the series there's barely anywhere else for them to grow

That's what happens when an anime is hyped only because of a gimmick, when it finally wears off you are left with a really empty show

@@LTNetjak blacksmith is named Erhard and the old lady is named Elrasla

@@LTNetjak They had those names for a while, Naofumi has trouble remembering names because he always gives people crappy nicknames and sticks to them instead of using their real names, Raphtalia actually tries to get characters to tell him their names so he doesn't give them a nickname they'll be stuck with. Ps: I know the q ten lo arc was complete ass but i think it's kinda funny you left just before Shield hero peaked

@@LTNetjak I don't think the names really matters, Goblin slayer don't even have them

​@@FenroninGoblin Slayer kinda works tho, cause in that world no one got a name. They are all named after their jobs and characteristics. The difference between that and here is consistency. But I will admit that the roles blacksmith and Kung Fu lady play aren't really big

This is the biggest flaw with the series imo. Malty and her father got off scot-free at the end of season 1. They didn't even repent and still plotting.. I felt cheated on. I dropped the show and never looked back.

They retconned it, but Malty's eventual actual punishment after trying to basically screw over the world is to be forced to marry a king who likes to torture, r@pe, and his wives in the webnovel. Naofumi had to watch the recording of it because he wanted proof that she was dead.

@@evice that's in the Webnovel, that does not happen in the LN tho...

@@evice She would still be a queen though and hold a lot of power. Her father and her should have been stripped of all title and wealth and be forced to do hard labor in Siberia for the rest of their lives instead. As a queen, couldn't she just poison her husband and assume power?

@@RasenTon you right.

Yeah, that's actually a neat point when the other heroes forgot that *IT'S NOT A GAME BRO.* And it shows how their antic just cause more trouble than actually helping.

it got annoying after hearing naofumi saying lines like "This is not a game" 300 times.

Unfortunately their arc just copy-pasted that of Naofumi's, got fooled, treated as/became a villain and then betrayed by Malty.. like geez, can't they copy plots from other shows/books 🤷

interesting? sounds like another generic idea at this point lol

Honestly, it's mostly the anime killing it lol. Not to say the story is perfect but this anime adaptation is terrible. First season reeled us in and we realized it was bait too late. I feel like they just used shield hero for the popularity more than taking it seriously and now it pretty much failed. Bad animation, constantly rushed. All stuff like that. They even made some moments look more important in the openings just for it to be over in 10 seconds - 3 minutes. People thought there was gonna be some cool fights against monsters in season 2 but the majority of people don't even remember what ACTUALLY happened. This is just one of those animes that can't be saved and eventually everyone will forget even existed.

That's not true, as the plot has always been the waves of calamity and that remains true throughout the entirety of the light novels with an ongoing mystery as to what they are to begin with and who or what might be behind them.

​@@reflex9238 yeah but it drags on then adds more complex things which makes it even more confusing to follow. I think it being a mystery is fine, but they have to at least give some inkling into what they are so that readers can follow along.

@@synnamon_toast_crunch Well we have and some it was more or less stated what the Waves are and in volume 22 we even know now what the entity is that's behind the waves in which it required Naofumi and Ren to adapt to the change, and added another mystery on top of that as the end of volume 22 talks about this possibly being way bigger than anyone could've thought originally. I'm trying to be vague here so I don't spoil anything so I'll just go over what the anime so far has gotten towards since the anime skipped over a lot of important world building. So far thanks to the end of season 1, we know that when the waves appear it is possible for other heroes to go and enter other worlds without restriction hence like L'arc, Glass, and Therese were able to go to Naofumi's world that way. There's also another way which wasn't exactly made very clear because season 2 rushed things, but getting permission through some entities that allows one to cross to other worlds in the case of season 2 it was because of Ost that Naofumi and his party were able to go to L'arc's world. Through this one can more or less piece together how S'yne made it to Naofumi's world given that the Queen made no mention of a hero like S'yne. Now I can't remember what volume it was stated in specifically but if I recall correctly it was through this information that Rishia and someone else was able to figure out what the Waves were and their purpose. While I'm at it I do wanna make it clear that S'yne is more than just background character and she does play an important role in revealing more about the waves because of her circumstances, though the anime might take some time to get there. Point of all this was that in the light novels were given bits of information as to what the answer behind this could've been, to say that they don't give anything is ludicrous to say so, and this remains true even in the anime though the anime forgot to go over this as season 2 really failed to stick the landing. Besides when it came to actually getting answers, they didn't exactly have all the time in the world to try and figure it out as they had many other threats to take care, with Kyo being one of them, the Phoenix in the case of season 3 since they're preparing for a fight with it, and another afterwards though I can't say very much but for any of the anime only people I think they'll be in for a treat.

I stopped reading the novel somewhere in the teens. When it's good it's good, but there have been entire books that felt so dull that they could have left on the editor's floor. Like he's trying to compete with the Wheel of Time for bloat. And this is coming from someone who loves the vignettes exploring different characters, that some folks might consider unnecessary excess. At least I'll always have the Saint of the Holy Bird arc.

Yall should have seen this a mile away the anime is literal garbage groomer incel bait

Alot of the issue is that they decided to take the story tone lighter than the Web Novel The Web Novel is a 10/10 absolutely fantastic it's significantly darker when it's dark but the manga/anime went significantly lighter after the early bit In the web novel when Naofumi's purchase of Raphtalia he was fully prepared to take all his rage directed at the princess on Raphtalia Seeing her and all women in a similar but less comedic way to the Spear Hero Post princess but Raphtalia heals his heart like a therapeutic pet throughout their time together

The material was something the writer of it said didn't like how it ended up being. How season 3 is being handled is little better, but not fully the best as season 1 was.

Oh is the 3rd season out? I dropped it during the 2nd season since it became too hard to get through. But if it picks up next season, I might force my way through the 2nd one.

In the Manga the Queen isn't some softhearted damsel but a Boss-*** Btch who didn't let Naoufumi exucute the princess and king because of how other countries would view that as her killing off anyone who opposes her. She was pissed not at what the princess did but rather because she didn't control the Shield Hero and manipulate him to be a useful asset. Also in the Manga Rishia (girl kicked out of Bow Hero's Party) Intentionally threw that beer Barrel at the Outsiders from the other world after remembering that L'Arc Could handle the booze pebbles from the night before rather then by accident.

​@@sharkguy2340I am currently forcing my through 2nd season, I really loved this show in the 1st season, they really disappointed in the 2nd one that I had to drop but I will be giving this series a one more chance.

Not to mention the pushover of a Noble, Raphtalia's previous owner, instead of showcasing how powerful some human veterans were after the demihuman wars, and his complete contempt for the weak, they just had him go down like a random mook.

Are the light novels good past the turtle? I heard around that time the story just took a turn for the worse

@@sidneyrobinson18 yeah the novel gets better, i personally didnt care for some of the arcs that followed the curse shield reveal but it slowly picks back up then doesnt come back down until the end

yeah but still a bad story too many bad points sadly what a waste

Let’s hope the shield hero gets a reboot that’s faithful to novel’s story

Thats why i cant get myself to rewatch the show again. I did enjoy it when i was 15 or 16 or so. Season 1 only mind you. Even back then i dropped the show at s2 because it did nothing interesting or unique anymore. But now that im older and more mature i notice all the questionable writing. And i need a good writing in order to enjoy a show.

Would have been better/more realistic if after his name was cleared the townspeople would still believe he was guilty and still tret him as bad.

I mean they *are* technically NPCs except for the heroes.

Completely agree. In the anime they mellowed ALL of it's characters, in order to appeal to a more wide audience. In the novels both Naofumi and the Queen are brutal. They also reversed their roles, the Queen would've killed herself after killing her family because she was very pissed off at them but she still loved them 'cause family. On the other hand, Naofumi was overjoyed and couldn't wait for their head to roll, but the Queen out of love for her family, managed to convince Naofumi to change their sentence into a life of perpetual disgust and shame. The anime studios really did the actual story and it's characters dirty just to be more popular for some ungodly reason. Can't have a hero do bad things you know? Despite the biggest and most memorable anime/manga heroes are flawed and have made huge mistakes.

My problem with the anime is that they made the other 3 heroes so weak. They had a big party and weeks of advantage againste Naofumi. And He still overtook them in Power in Like 5 ep. That is not good Story telling. At the point were Naofumi can solo them all you loose all interest in them.

@@rRekko do we know that they mellowed the characters for appeal. Or is it a result of cramming information in to complete the show?

Absolutely agree with you, the Filo part is the most out of character in the world building, the world in pretty dark and grey for Naofumi with things like slavery, racism against animal people (not sure whats the correct word is) then suddenly we have a cute pet that transform into loli and everything just get better somehow. Its like put a colorful rainbow in the middle of all grey and dark picture, And other heroes's power is pretty lame and isnt powerful at all, at least comparing to shield hero, have almost no variety except some basic thing like elemental skill. So it make me feel like a fool watching , how the hell did shield hero being seen as the weakest of the 4 hero with all this amazing power in the first place? man just carry the whole first wave, after that i just give up.

I am fine with a story chilling out and not putting MC into a meat grinder every single episode and actually allowing him to have nice experiences the problem starts when the author refuses to give any actual hardships to MC moving forward. Literally every girl likes him the queen like him and he is the smartest most intelligent and the most powerful hero there ever was

@@arturzinurov4781 yeah, i'm fine with that too, just some chilling moment but the problem is the story doesnt even propose any hardship at all after the start. Like the King doesnt like shield hero ? oh nvm this world follow matriarch rule so the queen hold actual power and the queen like MC so its completely fine LUL. If only the King still hold actual power and shield hero slowly gain people's trust and make everyone turning against the king, that could have been so much more interesting to see. Shield hero got shunned by the king and princess making other people turn against him then got other princess and the queen who hold actual power back him up so he easily crush the king and antagonist princess, what is really the hardship here? being crushed by people in high power then got other people with higher power crush them back, the MC doesnt change anything here, he can probably just wait until the queen return and boom problem solved

This anime dies when Filo kicks the Lancer hero in the balls on episode 5 and he is sent flying team rocket style. That's where you know the writer has absolutely no idea of the emotional reaction those antagonists produced on the audience and is just treating them as infantile punching bags, rather than telling a serious revenge story. This of course culminates on MC' epic revenge being calling the Princess silly names.

@@avizvit9932 Oh yeah, I absolutely agree on all points there. And the whole "Let's call the Princess a literal Bitch for the rest of her life" is absolutely insane lmao

funnily enough, in the light novel it's explained that she is brainwashing them for real and bringing all of their worst traits to the surface and making them even worse

I see it as them all being so desperate that they'll believe anything. Ren lost his whole party so he was desperate to just hear someone telling him that he was doing something correct and things like that. I understand why he would believe her, same to Motoyasu I guess... but Itsuki? yeah... no

@@wyatt9949 she actually ended up benefitting Motoyasu in the long run, but in a weird way XD The light novels get pretty wild, as in they made an antagonist that was literally impossible to defeat without the writer making it possible(power wise that is)

Because booba

Even worse considering girly LOVES being his slave. What shocked me more seeing this video just now was that they age her down for 'plot' sometimes, which is so weird considering she's the love interest lmao

Usagi drop exist how are you surprised? Lol

Shut up

it's really bad

@@Shizkeb It's certainly not an incredibly good or exciting show, but I think Bofuri is decently enjoyable, personally. It's very chill.

@@Shizkebyup complete and utter dog boo boo

Bofuri s1 is waaaaay more enjoyable than shield hero s2

That would make sense if they were basically splitting a single season into two parts, but still wrote and paced it as usual for a single season. Unfortunately, they didn't.

The first season was extremely popular and successful.

Then she tries to poison everyone like two scenes later and the queen just goes "OH Meltyyy ☝ you silly goose"

@@thegoose8663 Yeah, I get that the author wants to stay away from turning the story into a revenge porn, but that was way too far on the other side of the spectrum.

LN handles that scene better IMO. Naofumi is the one calling for their heads on a platter, and it's the queen who talks him down. Her excuse was the now former king's friends in high places wont stay quiet about that. Same reason for rejecting his second request of mutilating them but leaving them alive. Eventually he settles with the name changes.

yeah that annoyed the shit out of me. any time i see a trope like that in any media, I fucking quit immediately. as in , instant turn-off. I call it "the batman trope" where an obviously evil, completely irredeemable person is somehow allowed to live because "ooh it would hurt someone's feelings if you died" or "if i kill you it would make me just as bad" they did that exact same thing with raphtalia as well, where she finally managed to confront the person who slaughtered her village, kidnapped her friends, sold her into slavery, and s*xually violated many innocent people just for his own pleasure and entertainment only for her to have a random change of heart. the whole episode was banking on that "i'm going to find him, and I will kill him for what he did to us." only for her to turn around last minute, slap him across the face, and walk the fuck off. it's total bullshit. and now, after you've spared this person, they turn around and kill, manipulate, lie, abuse, and cheat again and guess what? that blood is on *your hands* now! congratulations, since you spared this person, you ironically are now "just as bad as them" because you enabled their evil ways! hope you're happy watching as an entire town burns to the ground due to your piss-poor decisions! yayyyyyyyyyyyy

Sadistic

Nah. It's been bad.

@@pastaalfredo3394 first arc was about normal pace, didn't cut out 2 arcs and try to stuff another 2 into a single arc.

@@BronzeOrwin yeah except the first season fell off as soon as that bird showed up

@@gatorayds I'm simply saying reviews for second season are so bad because massive amounts of content were cut, your opinion on season 1 is arbitrary.

@@BronzeOrwin You said "thats the real reason" and it was kinda vague so thanks for telling me what you meant

i swear the anime skipped the fact kyo was also from japan like naofumi, cuz when they killed him in the novel they saw his soul which looked like a japanese guy, in the anime they just blew him up and he was dead...wut

This!!!!

They were supposed to kill him a second time too tho, right? Because his soul escaped into the basement to try and get to that backup body

In the original, the Queen COULDN'T just abolish the church like that, they had been at odds with each other for a while and it was their attempt at assassinating the 4 heroes that gave her the opportunity to do so. Given Naofumi's name was cleaned and the population is more concerned with the waves than the religion at this point, the lack of repercussion is understandable. That said, there's no way to defend the Turtle arc, it is dragged out, boring and feels like a diversion from the plot rather than progression. And the way the series justifies slavery makes sense, they never paint it in a good light and Naofumi only uses it because he's broken. Yes, it is gross, but it is made to show how far from his past self he's become.

@@TwilightWolf032 I don't doubt that the LN handled the story better, but even then, history has taught us that people _always_ find a way to care about religion, even when there is a much larger threat to their being. I'm not saying there should have been a massive religious war, but there definitely should have been resistance from ultra-orthodox holdouts. After all, how is anyone supposed to _know_ that it was the Pope who tried to kill the heroes? For all anyone else knew, the Queen just framed the Church to gain more power. Also, it's not that the world depicts slavery that's the problem, it's how the _story itself_ treats it. I have no problem with a story portraying slavery, but this one in many ways does not do it well. Firstly, it makes it "necessary" for Naofumi to keep Raph as a slave because slaves get an xp boost. This boost is so prevalent that it becomes a viable option for green haired girl to enter into a *slavey* contract with him to get her levels up faster, rather than literally anything else. Are you really telling me that nobody has developed a magic that allows a similar level of xp sharing among free party members? It also plays him using the shock collar magic as a joke most of the time, rather than the barbaric thing that it is. Likewise, the two slaves Naofumi has both just happen to be cute girls who are in love with him, and (grossest of all) Raphtalia _willingly becomes his slave again_ when offered her freedom and this is framed as noble, rather than the deeply unhealthy and disturbing action that it is. The idea of a cute girl simping for you so hard that she _literally_ will remain a *slave* to you is the worst kind of otaku wish fulfillment. The problem with how the story portrays slavery is that it isn't so much an abhorrent system that Naofumi has to tolerate because that is the world he is in, but rather it is written as a directly beneficial system that he actively participates in wherein his slaves will love him if he's nice and cool enough. In that vein it somewhat fetishizes slavery.

​@@Zarastro54japanese mangas and animes have a weird (even korean and chinese ones) hate boner for the christian church. Most of them portray churches in their fictions as evil catholics who uses God to fool people into supporting their own ascension to power, which actually, isn't far off from reality but holy shit, maybe a catholic church that is actually altruistic for once? A pope character that is actually innocent as he looks as he is very religious and moral?

@Zarastro54 there's no excuse for the series portrayal of slavery, it's just gross and honestly makes naofumi a disgusting character for me. But the slavery thing is far from the only problems this series has, honestly it's borderline unwatchable I don't understand how anyone could like this show or the light novels, it's beyond bad and ridiculous. Soo many dumb things happen it really takes away from any immersion you might have when the world building the characters are soo trash.

@@theblackswordsman7558 Could you give some examples of these other problems? Or the so called "dumb things"? Your comment is so vague and without substance I would like to understand what it is you actually disliked in either the show or light novels.

They won't recover from that 😞 The dress story 🥴

You know its funny you mention that because that's exactly what season 3 does, also it looks like you may not have been paying attention given the fact that Naofumi clearly did struggle with all his fights and if the other heroes had gotten their act together they wouldn't have had issues with people like L'arc and Glass and the manga makes that clear as well. The anime also keeps the same rule in that Naofumi still barely has a way to attack and still requires Raphtalia, so he doesn't exactly solo the waves considering he still needs someone to attack.

@@reflex9238 The rising of the other heroes in S3 was done terribly IMO, basically no weight given to it and barely a hint of redeemable qualities in them before they are just suddenly fixed. Even if the LN is good, I don't think it's coming through to the anime.

@@LanceThumping idk where you got the idea of them being “fixed”. Something which the anime has yet to touch upon though they most likely will in season 4 is that they all also got affected by the curse they used. Ren is unable to get any XP and isn’t able to carry anything without it decreasing in value overtime. Itsuki lost his free will due to his curse series and can only follow orders from those around him, something which was cut out of the anime as Naofumi commanded him to kill himself and he actually tries to do just that but gets stopped last moment. Plus they all just got to the village, so there still hasn’t been much to do so as the anime is trying to take it slow.

Seriously And s3 there's another raccoon child girl wanting to take Raphtalias place Where the f is it just going?? Got bored and cringed so I dropped it even s2 was boring af!

thats wild your hating just to hate it saved the series for me @@LanceThumping

For me the downfall started right at the end of Season 1 when Naofumi stopped the execution of those pieces of trash. They were lying and scheming all the way to the end... there was not a single redeeming thing at all but he spared them to just make them suffer the embarrassment of being called juvenile names. They had connections and supporters where they could still cause massive trouble for the entire kingdom. But you are right... the Second Season totally wasted the entire show... the turtle was nonsense and the "other world" arc after it made everything worse. I have lost complete interest and I started watching S3... but it's looking lame with the whole "tournament" fight idiocy.

​​@@CD-vb9fi actually it's pretty poorly portrayed by the anime. In the lightnovel Naofumi notices that the queen wanted to interfere by offering her own life because of her love for her family (what in some ways is understandable 👀 and fits her so far shown character like the king has at least reason in being racist because S3 spoiler!! shield worshipping beast man nation abducted (and maybe r****) his little sister) and bitch is her daughter after all.) Anyway so since the queen killing herself would have actually solved nothing, if not made things worse he stopped her. That and plot xD

@@sepphero9639 I can understand a parent not wanting a child to be killed. Queen was already guilty enough for knowing the truth and doing little about it as well. Sure she helped Naofumi here and there but it was mostly tokenism. But there is this thing most have about people in power being subjected to exactly the same punishments they carried out on those beneath them. They took a sword to many people without mercy and so they should receive the sword without mercy. It's a tough business... don't rule over others if you can't stomach punishing your own family for doing what you punish others for doing without blinking. This is why people seem to forget why angry mobs have no mercy when they rise up against their rulers.... by the time that happens there has already been a very long chain of tyranny and oppression done such that the expectation that the leader getting drawn and quartered is "non-negotiable". I personally would have been okay with Queen, King, and Princess #1 to go the way of the dodo. They still had Princess #2 to become ruler.

@@CD-vb9fi i get the feeling you neither understand how monarchy works nor that princess 2 is literally 13-14 years old 👀 people don't "choose" to rule. Also, the queen literally came as fast as possible without starting an all out war. She didn't ignore it she was at a conference to negotiate which country summons which Hero and was stuck there negotiating peace for her county when her manipulated husband made a royal fuckup.

@@sepphero9639 I know how monarchy works. Don't confuse "justice" with "convenience". Justice would be her and them all paying the price for all the wrongs that happened under their rule. Yes... I know this 'concept' of justice is not compatible with monarchy based on human concept as rulers are often seen as "special" and "immune" from punishment for their mistakes. But it does not change what justice is... Instead it just becomes "convenience" where they can brutally murder others by mistake and face no consequences. But don't use "my preferences" for what should have happened to lead you down the path of attacking my intelligence. Don't forget... kingdoms "in real life" have fallen by such designs so the same happening in fantasy is not a stretch either. Some have fallen for nothing other than the greed of another member of royalty desiring to rule. It's a messy affair.

the light novel actually went into detail about these kinds of things and explained how Naofumi viewed pretty much everyone as children but Raphtalia and Filo were closer to family. He constantly attempted to create a system where they would be able to provide for themselves because after researching and his own gut intuition, he had a feeling that he wouldn't always be there to provide for them. Both of which ended up being dead wrong though XD

Yep same, am i glad i stopped watching after s1 and kept it glorious in my memories lmao

What does they flock to me mean? I'm not native.

'They gather to me on their own.'@@seven.yahallo

@@TheUbberman ah thanks

I was just about to say the same thing

It gets worse as the series goes along.

yeah i was watching and i was like "... is naofumi really the underdog because raphtalia is outclassing all three heroes right now"

remind me of a anime which i can’t remember but will try ‘campfire hero’ something like that like i WISH the other hero do something and i’m starting to want a fanfiction about the mc going along with those 3 other hero (like a fanfiction of shield hero that all 4 of them are basically friends)

I actually like not everyone being useless like it is in most anime's. its just that they went about the training all wrong or didnt do much of it at all. And hard work actually pays off.

I also hated that, like c'mon.. You're supposed to be super strong yet get beaten by supporting characters that only had like a few weeks to a month worth of training..

Shows the uploader’s real motivation. Also the queen isn’t evil.

@@bloodfalcon5611 That´s true. Eclaire, the Kung-Fu granny and the dressmaker in the capitol were nice people too. But the joke still lands, because a LOT of the women we saw were either evil, good but did evil or they were just petty pricks. The only group of people who were ALWAYS trustworthy were the girls/women who looked like girls. That pattern was especially recognizable in the first two seasons. It´s pretty obvious, that´s why the joke is so funny.

@@KillTheFuture42 That’s a lot of exceptions you listed. And no, most aren’t evil.

@@bloodfalcon5611 If you don´t want to understand, you will not understand. Have a good day.

@@KillTheFuture42 You undermined your own point. If you want to cope, you will cope.

That show exists (in a sense)….it’s called BOFURI

fun fact: he does get similar shields much later in the series (though the crossbow is more a gun) and they are practically useless they don't even give him an extra attack point. cause remember that his attack stat is like 3 or whatever and so any shield he wields will do no damage to anything with a modicum of defense.

Yeah this is what did it for me, like sometimes I see the writer behind the storytelling and just can’t stand these ideas that he actively chose to write. The worst part is he’s not very koi about it, but he gets away with it.

Bro I'm watching the anime with my bf so I can't really read ahead but the whole harem/slave situation is fucking weird even in the episodes I've seen. Given what happened the first few episodes of the series you think there wouldn't be any harems in fear that Naofumi would be accused by one of them. And they keep getting younger like it doesn't even matter😫

​@@jaytheanimeeditor8500koi is the fish, you're looking for "coy"

Atla's point was to tell Naofumi to not cut himself off from loving and letting others love him. She fully confessed to him as she was drying(though she made it clear she had a crush on him pretty early on of their meeting but Naofumi never paid her any mind at all). She flat out tells him that Raphtalia straight up loves him too and was fed up with how he was acting and being insensitive towards Raphtalia's feelings by pulling the whole Kodak from Hanagai series strat of just pretending romantic advances were never there or made to begin with. Through his depression and guilt he was irrationally gonna make an overcorrection that would be a mistake. He was stopped because it was wrong to do such a thing and he recognized it was wrong and apologized for it and soon got over his grief and depression, properly forgave himself over Ost and Atla's death and isn't so weird around people showing him any kind of affection and not so closed off. The slave crest is literally used for just stats and he asks before it ever gets put on anyone you know this because Raphtalia elects to get hers put back on for that reason and to show Naofumi that she wouldn't ever abandon him. He was gonna have it removed because he trusted her but she said she'd keep it because it was her decision. Rishia agrees to it since with a level reset and her getting the crest would make her stronger and thus she could learn to be helpful to Itsuki. Seems like you ain't ever read a damn thing nor watched the anime. The whole slave crest thing is in season 1 and like books 3 and 4 of the light novel rofl.

@@YHUAN01 i think you missed the problem: in-universe there's very good reasons to keep slaves, but the slave crest is only a good thing because the author CHOSE to make it one, and it's really fucking weird that they made up a reason to justify slavery. Also, "the point was that raphtalia loves naofumi and he should love her back" is not a winning talking point given raphtalia's age...

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Honestly i think a bit of a bandwagon effect happened that boosted its popularity. At the time a certain VA was having Metoo allegations and people kept making comparisons to naofumis situation

Yeah honestly it was overrated and hyped to much I always thought it was just alright in my opinion

When I watch it back then, I thought it was hold up alright in my sense. But, looking back, it's just other revenge hareem isekai. I don't know what made me hooked up into this at the first place. Guess we always have mistakes as a teen. But, we grow and be better than our previous self every day. By reevaluating ourselves, we can improve, so we will realize how much of a trash this anime is.

most any ends like this. They get milked to dead, then canceled and everyone moves on to something else. Anime in general has been like this for a decade.

Plus, I don't think many dub watchers got past ep 1 3:14 🤮

true i think he really did all of his cards in 1 season and in s2 s3 there is nothing that give u a good time watching anime or where the story is going like the revenge and the hate from another people should get more not just finish it in 1season and raphtile i really hatted the love with mc like why she could just be his children much better than lover + that she is the sword hero i droped it after that it was soo boring ++the anime taked too long to air s2 and s3 like from 2019 to 2022 to get s2 with 12 ep for really?? and a bad cgi pls

The biggest mistake for me is episode 4. Naofumi and Raphtalia don't have much history at that point so testing their relationship isn't as high stakes as it should be.

Imo, revenge as a theme is a very tacky thing, because most of the modern literature that features revenge as the main theme ended up either half-assed or justifying the main character to become a murderhobo That's the core problem of the revenge genre as a whole; when it's done, there's practically no goal after that

yeahhh no. People read wn for hundreds chapters more and than 20 volumes of ln. He knew what he was doing and to whom

Sunday School is just Malevolent Shrine if Sukuna found Jesus

naofumi goes back in time and meets a shield hero who can attack and he is like WTF? thats bullshit lol

I really wanted to ignore the red flags and believe that an anime would avoid the weirdass shit and that it would stay a wholesome father daughter relationship, but after Usagi Drop I should've known a bait and switch is always possible. Story fell off when the Queen deus ex machina'd Naofumi's status as social exile away, but that's more of a problem with the source material than the anime.

@@hornetsilksong It's a manga, but Yotsuba to! never makes it weird, and it's a pretty funny slice of life.

Naofumi literally still sees her like a daughter or younger sibling. Much to her dismay since she you know... actually has romantic feelings towards him. That doesn't really change since Naofumi still wants to go fucking home. lmao

yeah and naofumie tries to fuck fohl later, lmao he wants that shota tiger cock@@YHUAN01

I think the problem with Filo is the fact she is a little girl/loli if I can be honest, if Filo's 'angel' form was not only masculine but also physically adult I don't think people would have a problem. The biggest problem is the fact she is a little girl which while does make sense in universe, it feels like the writer just wanted to put a loli in his story Also fun fact, in the original web novel the author had to retcon demi humans aging with levels because he forgot about it and later on remembered that Naofumi had a bunch of slave demi human children that should be adults by that point of the story, he made the excuse that Raphtalia is part of a super rare race of Demi humans that age when leveling up. But that completely destroyed the previously established demi human lore in ways that were ignored because that was easier than trying to fix it, so technically speaking if you make raphtalia 18 from the beginning you will get a narratively better story

​@@mateushenriquepinheiro3197racoon is racoon, what super rare bs was the author talking about lol The author could've use element like Filo being Filolial Queen plot, meaning Raphtalia might've been also Racoon Queen race.

Its because bonding to a child is easy then an adult. People would question an adult becoming so attached so quickly, but also… the show is pedo bait for like 90% of it. But the 1st part was his actual reason

An 18+ slave is much more expensive

I think ppll Will preffer 1000+ yrs old Loli, than actual aged loli