The Intact 2,000 Year-Old Roman Boat Under The River Rhine | Time Team | Odyssey 

Great videos but seriously, why would anyone pay for this stuff given ... you know ... that thing called the internet (hence the odd '50%' discount I guess)? And 'like Netflix for History' doesn't make any sense. The world is saturated enough as it is with Netflix and many free history channels too. The videos look OK, but doubt a $12/mth subscription to a history channel is going to get much traction given what's out there for free - their content would have to be really high-quality and groundbreaking history available no-where else for that to happen. Anyway, that's IMHO, nice video, but not 'pay-for-it-coz-you-can't-find-it-anywhere-else' standard LOL.

I agree. You can see the timbers that were shaped by a human hand thousands of years ago. Seeing something like wood that normally rots as quick as we do when dead survive thousands of years gives us a tangible connection to our ancestors. So amazing..

If you love old boats and you live in the UK or if you ever visit, you should check out the Dover museum and the Bronze age boat, it's awesome. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Bronze_Age_Boat

This isn't news though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This episode is from 2006.

I agree totally!

@@MuscarV2 New enough given its origin date!

If you haven't yet, you should visit the Castellum in Hoge Woerd, might be exactly your type of thing!

I'm not at all sure the history of our current time will be clear in the future. If you look back even to 120 years ago, details of how some early acoustic gramophones were made has now been lost. And digital information is even harder to store permanently than paper, wood or stone. Even if we don't suffer some disaster, I very much doubt even in a few 100 years whether people would know everything they would like to about our current time. I mean - think even of how so much television has been lost, and when it survives often it is in a very degraded quality (I'm thinking TV news footage from the 1970s, say).

@@patrickpaganini And then there's that thing where available hundred to several hundred year old historical documentation of various things from recipes to railroad car maintenance says that such-and-such was "done in the usual way" and the way was so widespread and usual that nobody bothered to specifically document it!

@@scottfw7169 Yes - reminds me of Samuel Pepys going off at lunchtime to order his "ordinary".

I think they're leaving this on in the ground because there's already some other boats they excavated. It's amazing the kind of stuff they find here. In my town (Nijmegen, also a Roman town and allegedly the oldest still inhabited city) they found a Roman mummy in a sarcophagus. That is in the museum here now, along with a war chariot and a lot of other stuff. Every time there's a dig in certain areas of the city they ALWAYS find stuff.

Twice, they dug it out and buried it not once, but twice.

Methinks it's more like *_SEVENTEEN_*_ YEARS OLD,_ as it was originally shown on BBC in 2006!

The Dover boat dates from the early bronze age and is around 3,500 years old dating from 1575-1520 BC. The late neolithic ended around 1900 BC, the Bronze age started around 1200 BC. note that the beginnings and ends of these eras did not occur everywhere at the same time. A half size replica of this boat was constructed, initial leakage problems solved and in 2014 successfully sailed from Folkestone to Dover. I'm not an expert, just googled to find accurate information. -dave (Undergraduate degree in Anthropology/Archaeology)

You’d think it was carbon dated . Maybe contaminated test ?

@@seanfaherty Carbon dating of wood can be inaccurate if the wood was saturated with fresh water for any length of time. For wood structures, like these boats, Dendrochronology is fairly accurate in the UK to about 4200 BC. -dave

They always do!

TT only go were invited so I expect you will find the dutch guys needed cash to continue their dig so you can thank the British for paying for it's discovery.

Seems to me that they were invited by the Dutch because the Dutch ran out of money.

Caligula and his sister likely they imprisoned them house arrest style alone together as young teens who did not know if today we die or not for years. The huge ships build in a lake for a very expensive show found. The rest we don't know. Caligula not in power long enough to build the favor of the common man like Nero who slandered by the upper classes had two different movements after his death named for him a sign of strong support from the people.

The thing is, Roman civilisation was pretty "industrialised" for its time. Not like us, but they had standarts and streamlined processes. A kind of proto mass production. A very good example are the mountains of broken amphores we find that were basically single use items. A nail in roman times was very likely much more affordable than later in the medieval times.

You would need to write it using roman numerals.. 40,000 is XL with an overline (opposite of underline)

In this case it was perfict they did not have enough time to get the boat out period just enough to verify it's status before construction occured. The site marked for a future dig assuming someone comes up with the funds and way to preserve it better than just leaving it in the ground. Think of Time Team as a site finder with most serious work done later assuming they find something worth doing.

@@RedRocket4000 Meanwhile the government spends countless millions on pointless wars that could easily fund it's excavation and preservation.

time team was a TV sponsored mega test pit and emergency rescue resource , anything left in the ground can be dug better next year,next decade next century this is why the site mangers only allows limited dig area on a site and some times limited trench numbers. there is now a drive to have a you tube supported version.

@@RedRocket4000 Given that the only thing that would have been delayed by fully excavating this ship was a proposed bike path, there's no reason why it couldn't have been done.

@@nobodyspecial4702 the problem is not the digging, it´s the storage. If you haven´t the perfect storage facilities, money for preservation or both, it´s better to let it in the ground for future generations who - hopefully - will have the necessary funding. Plus, science is evolving, maybe future scientifical methods would be better for research, storage, etc. Till then, the ground will preserve it better, like it did the last 2000 years.

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I dont know if you realize this, but excavating that whole thing and then putting it in a museum which keeps it from rotting by constantly wetting it down is costly as fuck both times. As in many countries, sometimes its best to leave it in the ground, if it survived this long, it might do for a while longer. They monitor the ground conditions, so there's no better way to conservate it. The bike path was done on purpose, easy to remove, wont destroy the boat.

worms, rot, rusty nails, etc

Bore off

As someone who, through scuba diving, took underwater archaeology courses, I too found it fascinating

What a great name you have!!

God is good 👍

@@alanaadams7440 Which god?

Then a chainsaw to get it dated. Crazy.

I think British governments are just as bad now as commerce rules. America preserves what's above ground as their history is less than 300 years. They also destroy the history of the natives and continue to steal their land for oil exploration.

A lot of these ships have been found already in the same region

See 42.00. It's protected. They keep part of the boat in the ground in the environment that kept the boat preserved for 2 millenium already and without big changes will keep on doing it for millenia to come. The Netherlands has pretty decent laws for preserving archeologist finds and organisation of it's archeology. Many archeologist are working for local government. The the reasoning for keeping it in the ground if it not be disturbed is that in the future there will be better techniques to explore them, and the preservation cost is lower this way. Getting a building permit is not easy in the Netherlands. If someone want to built at that site something that will disturb the soil at the depth of the remains of the boat and thus threatened it, they will have to pay for excavation. For example in the small city of Woerden 20 km downstreams ,a boat and castellum (fort) was found at the spot were an underground parking garage was planned. That boat was completely dug up and sight completely explored,. The parking garage is now named Castellum and has a small display about the dig and shows some the finds.

@@julesforsyth2996 And destroy statues and rocks and buildings that might be racist! Also get the Confederate flag completely wrong and want that removed. People are just going stupid over here.

@@julesforsyth2996 Our town, in the state of New Hampshire, has two indigenous sites that are very old and have been well documented. One is a stone fish trap in a small river that dates to 4,100 years ago and the other is a seasonal campsite that has been dated to 11,400 years ago.

Thats actually a pretty good guess. Humans are very much the same nowadays and its very common for people to keep mememtos from their service.

I remember watching TT episodes on RU-vid some yrs ago, so it was available but not very accessibly.

More a British Program.

This does show on some cable TV in the U.S.

There's a lot of statistics and methodology behind it. In short: coins with the current emperor were most likely to be carried, because coins were minted as propaganda for the reigning monarch. Statistically, the most up to date coins were carried by the military (especially as they were freshly supplied from the mints for their salary). If a significant portion of coins are from Caligula and none are later, there's a more than fair chance that that is the rough date of the site.

@Merovech correct, but where were the coins being minted? Did the soldiers use their coins right away or is it possible they are older and they were held by the soldiers until they would get them stamped if they had the old emporers coins on them? This seems like it'd be a remote base. Seems like if this is what it is based off of it is shaky at best.

They dated it according to the AGE OF THE WOOD(chainsaw cut) So, they know when the tree existed. Then using MATH they could figure out which ruler was ruling at that time.

Had they not done that it would rot away. This way they are able to preserve half of it as they found it.

Get that metal detector out and find yourself a gladius.

They compare the width of the growth rings to growth ring patterns in tree samples they have accumulated from many sources. The sample growth patterns are from trees with known histories such as those used in construction of buildings, bridges, tunnels, walls, etc.

@@lrayvick Your explanation doesn't address the question raised in Roy's comment?

@@chrishoesing5455 ok What's yours?

@@lrayvick What do you mean, "what's yours"? I think he made a good point. How do they know the trees weren't being dried and seasoned for years before use? The system they use only dates the latest tree rings, which just shows when the tree was cut down. Edit: after re-reading his comment I think he might actually be cunfused how their dating system works, but his question is still viable.

There are other boats on display. The most important thing about this 1 is the knowledge that was gained by ascertaining its size, construction, method of loss and accurate dating. The boat has been completely preserved by being buried in the waterlogged soil for 2 millennia - best to leave it there until better technological or archaeological considerations (or climate changes) decide otherwise.

@@theoztreecrasher2647 But there's also a possibility that the location of the boat could be forgotten or lost again to history if it's left buried. But practically speaking, it all comes down to money, it will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars if not, millions to preserve and display it.

@@supertouring1 There is, of course, the possibility that the recorded and published GPS co-ordinates might disappear from University Libraries and the disseminated servers of the World Wide Web (especially if things continue to deteriorate in Eastern Europe and the Far East.) However, if the unthinkable happens and much of humanity is obliterated with most of its accrued knowledge, it is still probably best to have this left underground for study when the next iteration of human civilization claws its way up out of the radioactive slime. No? 🤔😁