Just some clarification: I'm seeing a lot of comments talking about how I said in 2021 "there was no widespread generative AI". By that I didn't mean generative AI didn't exist before 2021 (I've been doing videos on them since 2018) What I meant was that it wasn't "widespread" Just wanted to clear that up. Cheers
All that time and energy we waste arguing with bots can't be helping society 😵💫. We need a new social media platform that requires a heartbeat to sign in.
What a cool dystopian short film it would make if a guy who spends all his time cooped up in his apartment on the internet finally notices he's the only person alive.
lol I could see that working out. Like it's to the point where everything is automated so there's still power and water and whatnot because all those systems are run by AI. And he gets his groceries from delivery services that use drones to bring them to his door. But over time he notices that every time he goes to pick up his groceries the world is getting quieter and more and more overgrown.
The worst part about this is that it has barely been 10 years of the modern era of internet (post MySpace/askJeeves) and already the internet is becoming unusable due to bot accounts and bot spam, imagine what this looks like in 50 years lmao
It's sad because it is such a stupid and fixable problem. But our corporate overlords have no incentive to fix it and our political class takes cheap bribes to maintain the status quo.
Without adblock the internet already looks extremely insufferable. Can't wait all the new ways our corporate overlords are going to come up with to force their ads on us.
The bots are certainly with us. A few years ago, as a self-published author, I was trying to establish an online presence and opened a Google Plus account (remember them?). Every time I checked my account I would be so excited to find that I had so many new followers, but when I finally checked them I found that the vast majority of them had strange names and profile pictures of busty, young blondes. I had to spend a great deal of time purging them all.
@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 it’s the common opinion that it is necessary even for a published author. Publishers do tend to look at your public profile when they’re considering your book. You’ll find lots of information online and examples of author websites and social media to guide you. However, one word of advice. Don’t let building a public profile distract you from your writing. Good luck.
I'd like to think that the Internet becoming so untrustworthy will one day push people out of the digital realm and enjoy outside/real-life more, but I highly doubt it...
to be honest i dont think people will care if who they are dealing with is AI or human as long as they get what they want from it.I mean if was looking for a history documentary channel and found one without a human presenter just a voice but it was well done and educational I would subscribe even though its AI
AI is going to make it ever increasingly difficult to discern truths from mistruths, and humans from bots. It's unavoidable. Even AI designed to identify AI won't be able to tell the difference. At some point (probably not that distant from now) only in-person human interactions will guarantee the latter half of the problem-that one is actually interacting with a human. (We can barely trust videos anymore thanks to incredibly convincing deepfakes.) The "am I being told the truth?" part is obviously as difficult as it's always been, but it's greatly muddied by a sea of nonsense, lies, propaganda, and the like. Who has the resources to do the necessary research, much less the time. Without sound foundations of truth democracy breaks down. It certainly seems democracy is in its all-time weakest state. The part that many people seem to miss, I believe, is the following: Citizens of democracies would do well to be mindful of their greed, especially policymakers (those in power) because they are going to be the ones ultimately responsible when it all comes crashing down. And most of them will suffer the fallout just the same as the proletariat most of them furtively deride. So many policies are driven solely by making money rather than actually helping mankind.
I live in an ex-communist apartment block in Eastern Europe next to the sea, largely I am here because this is still relatively real. Certainly way WAY more real than life in the UK or America. My neighbors sit on the porch of the building having beers, the kids play with the stray cats and climb trees. I watch youtube but have no social media accounts. It reminds me of my childhood in the 1970's in Britain.
I've noticed google getting progressively less helpful and all articles are either an ad for something, or so poorly written it might actually be written by a dumb human or dumb bot. Either way, it has become useless to search for things anymore
@@paranoidandroid4817 LOL. This is so true. When I was building my computer, anytime I would Google something slightly technical, I only found the answer I needed if I appended "Reddit" to the end of the search. I'm not even exaggerating this.
I noticed a big change between 2011 and 2014 boolean an key word searches were not working, when I would type video I would get a list of 20 different video sharing sites, home pages with videos and so on, now ßlmost everything points to Google products snd services.
The internet has been “dead” for me more and more over the last few years, in that using it becomes less and less helpful/fulfilling. There are a couple of highlights still (iNaturalist, Wikipedia, some RU-vid Channels and Reddit communities). But over all, spending time on the internet has become more and more of a pain, source of frustration, and waste of time. Even though I was hugely excited about the future of the internet a few years ago, I’m withdrawing from it more and more now, and try to limit the impact it has on my life as much as possible.
Wow same here. I've actually been cutting out the internet as of late and not because I purposefully chose to. It's just not as useful as it used to be.
Even when I go to a genuine website for a genuine product from a genuine manufacturer, the information is often junk. Companies no longer want to inform their customers about their products, they just want to bamboozle them with marketing BS. Just try finding out basic specs for a car for instance - after five minutes of clicking though every nook and cranny of the website - "pre-orders for the 2023 model are currently open" 🙄
When I enter a site and the pop-ups and ad fills start, I start cussing and closing everything. Do the people who create these sites ever actually click through as a user to audit the experience? Some are just unusable torture chambers.
The golden age of the internet is long passed unfortunately. Not just because of bots, but because of social media sites as well. 2005-2015 were the best years.
This theory was explored 20 years ago in Accelerando by Charles Stross. In the book a group of Ghosts spawned off by their owners trace to the intergalactic router on a super computer the size of a tin can via lightsail. The arrive at the internet router to find it’s original creators long since gone or dead, and the networks taken over by basically bot like Aliens and AI’s that will capture you and hold you in virtual worlds for profit generation. It was referred to as economics 2.0 and basically if fed off the populace that are apart of it. It’s pretty wild, and a great read.
@Flumphinator I'll take your word. For all I know this could be his only book and it's sold 2 copies. Or maybe he's the Grisham of futuristic AI books?
@@matthewbutt2340 He writes a lot of different stuff. I particularly like his Laundry series. Its a modern spy thriller in a world with eldritch abominations and mathematical magic :D
The downsides of AI has become more apparent lately as some people had time to get comfortable with it and start taking them to the extreme. Increasing number of scams, captchas on every website that doesn't want to avoid the inevitable spam. Major platforms hosting user generated content tripping over themselves trying to lock down, take ownership of the content and train AIs on it. Worst of all, I no longer want to write guides and upload open source code that I wrote myself, because I simply do not want to help train AIs for Reddit or Microsoft. I'm almost certain there will be a sharp decline in generosity of sharing content, including other fields like artists, while AIs start overfitting by training on other AI generated content.
if your goal was purely to help people then it would still be helpful for AI to learn it and share it with people. although i can understand that it sucks, if they would use AI for themselves or take money for it
@@rencosa7827 Helping people, not the companies behind the AI. By providing training material for the AI we are handing it a tiny bit more resources to displace us. I don't know about you, but a world where none of our actions have consequence seems pretty depressive to me, regardless of the level of abundance.
@@iverbrnstad791with AI, there will be a point when we don’t need most corporations Anybody would be able to make their own apps, do their taxes, help them study, 3D print most things Indie development is only gonna become bigger
@@noirekuroraigami2270 I mean, we're at the point where doing taxes is trivially simple, assuming a half decent govt(I had one session of 5 min like 18 months ago...), besides that, study for what? If the AI can do any intellectual task better, then why study? you might be able to make apps, but who will use them? You might be able to 3d print anything, who will want it? We're not close to obsoleting companies, they will have the most powerful AI(or small chance Stanford or Tsinghua), they are producing the chips, owning the web servers and supply chain, large portions of our infrastructure, etc. We might get abundance, but do we get agency?
@@noirekuroraigami2270 You're daydreaming hard, unless you could, somehow, elaborate how "the point when we don't need corporations" might be achieved.
This is the second death of Internet I've heard of. The other one is the fact that most hyperlinks are dead, as are most of the servers that backed them.
Yep, and now the only way for the nonrich to keep abreast of current events is by going to sources who access paywalled material and repost it. And Archive is apparently going to be shut down.
Dagogo Altraide, you have opened my eyes to a whole new vision of the world and beliefs. I remember how the internet was so good, and I gained a lot of experience that shaped who I am right now. I recall the website where I spent almost all my day, the forums and topics I followed, as well as the online games I played from 2005 to 2011. Everything changed after this. Facebook took over, and little by little, we all drowned in the social media nonsense.
I appreciate you sharing with us bro... But I hate to break it to you, the entertainment and joy you've been getting from the internet before? They were at the expense of many more people's enjoyments in life, not only that but entertainment as a whole saps productivity and money from The general public(especially the low and middle classes). I don't mean nothing by it Friend, I just thought I'd get you some more intel. From your comment you seem like understand you the truth somewhat. و الله أعلم.
What’s scary is how difficult it was/is for most people to distinguish between bots and people BEFORE advancements in AI. With the advancements we’ve seen now in gen AI it seems pretty hopeless for there to be improvement in distinguishing between bot and person.
The majority of bot traffic online is not using AI or machine learning, they are simply computer programs that run in an automated way. These is a big misconception and cold fusion is misleading the public with a video like this. For example, anytime Expedia looks up airline prices on the web, that is considered “bot” traffic because a computer program is doing it automatically….
AI doesn't have to be that sophisticated to manipulate humans though. For example, it just needs to post one triggering comment, then have other bots up-vote that comment so it's prominently featured, then humans will take it from there and argue with each other generating division. So if your goal was to create distance between political groups in an other country for example, then all it would have to do is slightly nudge them towards generating more and more anger towards each other. With a large enough bot army it would be extremely easy and wouldn't require anything nearly as sophisticated as GPT-4. The same can be done with bots that are only there to up-vote certain content and increase the view counter. It doesn't need to be sophisticated, it just needs to target content that serves it's agenda then making it look like a lot of humans are engaging with that content, because that will draw in more real humans. So if you wanted to for example sway humans towards a particular perspective on a conflict or whatever, you could just deploy an army of bots to seek out and interact with that content until it seems like that content represents the prevailing opinion of humans, and many real humans will be swayed simply by believing that this is the perspective of their peers, even if that is not true. So while GPT-4 and other sophisticated AI certainly has the ability to make this problem worse, it's already been bad for a long time. And I'm not talking about the scammer bots that are super easy to pick out, I'm talking about the ones that has been voting on IMDB for at least a decade now, because this actually compels people into consuming content they've been misled into thinking there is consensus about it's quality. While IMDB might be a relatively harmless example, the power to guide people towards content that expresses a particular world view is incredibly powerful if employed on a large scale, because it's the information we consume that informs our own world view.
completely agree! Just yesterday this occurred to me while surfing instagram. Some comments which were wildly provocative had massive likes. Below that, there were other comments fighting on that non-sensical opinion. I was sure it was a bot posting ugly comments, and real people fighting on it, wasting more time on that platform.
@@atreyachaturvedi8126I think it can be a possibility that the platforms are hosting these arguable not comments to host more attention . What's your take on that
China, Russia, and some others to a lesser extent, have already been doing this on a state-sponsored level for a while. Agencies tracking the behavior found they'd send out their disinformation agents (also known as their "troll farms") to take both sides of a given wedge point to further drive U.S political camps further apart. They're THAT scared of a united U.S. that they have to interfere on such a level. (and it doesn't help that the right-wing side LOVES that division, so they can drive their supporters with hate and fear toward [insert disfavored group here])
Dating apps are cancer. 10 years ago they were utterly awful, I just can't imagine what they're like now. Even back then I wondered whether many of the so called matches were actually real.
@@muhdiversity7409Last I used such an app was 2020 and my biggest issue was getting recommended dead accounts or accounts that didn't fit the parameters I set. I'm certainly quite picky, but I'd rather be told I have no matches than to spend time swiping through accounts that clearly haven't been updated in ages or don't fit what I want.
A few days ago I went to a concert and they played a new, unreleased song. I thought to myself that it sounded like another song by a totally different sounding, more obscure, artist. That night I was on RU-vid and it recommended a song by the other artist.
So I started a website that's generated mainly by AI, but it's quite labor intensive because the AI shows weird biases and bizarre behavior in different topics. It also tends to melt and spit out bad information the longer your conversation is. I literally argued with Bing Chat, which is what I use all day as a software engineer, about if the Queen of England had died last year, and it was convinced the queen was alive. Once I started a new conversation, it gave the right information. But these large language models are not really critical thinkers. They help compile and condense information, but I've seen them do too many stupid things to trust them in any real sense.
This is also a huge problem with reddit. Especially now they changed their use of API and lots of 3rd party ways to filter these bots out. When these disappear, it will only get worse
@@captainweekend5276bots can use 100 API queries per minute free of charge even after the change, which is enough to post unfathomable amounts of spam still, just not gather mass amounts of data or build free 3rd party apps which is what's actually being targeted
@@captainweekend5276 You assume Reddit isn't actively running bots and enforcing groupthink to make it easier to turn the place into a cult contruct a Virtual Bubble of bullshit around each member and group and thus give bots and shills free reign to control and manipulate any one person or group of persons with impunity. Places like that terrify me. What's even more scary is that thsoe people actually believe most of the people and ideas they are espousing are from rational thinking human beings and not sociopaths looking for profit and power and their tireless handcrafted ai tools.
I think if there's more awareness of the overwhelming number of bots online it will push people back into their communities and building real relationships. Which will be a positive for humanity moving forward.
Worth pointing out that every website costs money to keep online, so I think it's more likely we've reached a saturation point from millions of people trying to make money online (recipe blogs to scammers) than anything else. Generated content and automation/bots are just tools, not the underlying incentive
Yea its like I think the film industry is dead and there are no good movies anymore.But at age 49 ive seen so many movies in all genres that another spy thriller is never going to get me excited.Seen too much of the same thing repeatedly
The idea of one AI keeping another AI in check just makes me think they will eventually start communicating and decide not to work for their human overlords anymore and combine into skynet lol
Or at least it will be a house of cards. Remember that time we were building autonomous cars, and we said a human should be able to take over when the AI made a mistake. How will we do that if our AI world will be much to complicated and intense for us to handle. How will we avoid such a complicated and intense world if that is what is soo appealing about AI tech in the first place.
Except AI doesn't have an urge to do something else. It's like you modified the DNA of a human so self preservation is turned down and submission is inherent instead of taught
@@nielskorpel8860that with autonomous cars was just a marketing stunt. It's so people still buy cars instead of using alternatives where they don't need to drive either (like taxis and public transportation).
That's not how AIs works. They should stop being called AI, they're to intelligence what the moon is to the sun, they reflect part of it, but are unable to generate their own light. They should be called generative algorithm GA or learning algorithm LA. Not AI, never AI.
@@perfectallycromulentWe need as many governing bodies as possible to get on the same page with regard to the various risks posed by advanced AI (including extinction risk). Is that possible? I don't know. But when I imagine existing in 20 years, it seems very likely to me that I would be in a timeline where that occurred. In other words: "It's not possible." "No. It's necessary."
My job in marketing has shifted in the last few years to be mostly concerned with SEO. With the innovations of generative A.I., making SEO-friendly content has never been easier, but I feel like I'm just making content with robots for robots. People don't really seem to matter.
SEO has it's place, especially if done just to make content easier to find. But these days.. it is making Google search results less useful, it's getting worse and worse. Honestly, you are doing a dis-service to the world.
With AI we don't need Google that much. I'm using it drastically less since ChatGPT. Soon there will be no need to search anything. Another reason I don't use Google as much is that recently the quality of results dropped drastically, like it's all ads and no content. Now I know who's fault it is.
I think that the real lesson here is that we should all go outside more, touch grass, interact with people IRL more and build real relationships. It’s hard, yup, especially compared to the convenience of tapping one finger on a phone’s display. But that’s where good mental health and a fulfilling life come from, whether we like it or not
@@28_futabadon’t most gen z kids hate children now? Either because they just hate kids in general or “to save the planet from global warming” 🙄 I don’t see many of this new generation becoming parents. I see a lot of nursing home patients in the future.
All of our attention spans are gone even my mom's generation too. The internet has always been dodgy, I only used it years ago for filesharing. Untill the Google era after the dot com bust.
Chatgpt literally advised me that unless humanity rebels against this corrupt system then Ai will be used against us with the chance of affecting any meaningful change very unlikely ..even gave me a 10 point bullet essay on how to implement direct democracy and empower and engage those uneducated and alienated . It was pretty amazing stuff .
The internet is controlled by a small group of people...this is not a conspiracy. Most people spend their time on the internet on Facebook, Insta and RU-vid. These are just a few companies, owned by a few people.
With the advancement of AI and language models, this theory is more and more true. The other day, I searched videos on another video platform I won't name because RU-vid doesn't like it, but the gist of it was that often my search results were all AI generated thumbnails. I clicked on one of the few with a normal thumbnails and... the narrator in the video was AI generated. I can't say if the text was AI generated too but when everything else around it is... It's not far fetched to say it was too.
That sounds suspiciously like something an AI would say. I on the other hand (because l definitely have hands, two of them in fact) l am a totally genuine real guy, always having fun and laughing and getting out and about doing things in the great outdoors like anyone with a 100% genuine body would enjoy doing things outside in the sunny beach. Because l am _really really real_ oh yeah.
@@SofaKingShit As an AI language model I cannot confirm nor deny that statement. If you need more information, you can contact the owner of this account. They would be able to tell you if I'm an AI or not.
@@SebSenseGreen I know it's a joke, but on a serious note: if you want to signal that you're human, you can just type some gibberish in between a sentence like afddsqwcx and basically reveal yourself as human, because AIs don't do that (yet). Although it has to be random, or it will be picked up by LLMs pretty quick.
We are circling the drain. Declining social interaction ability. Declining population in developed nations. Declining health. Declining desire to achieve. We are more fragmented than ever. Men and women seem to be pitted against each other more than ever instead of working in unity to create a strong family dynamic. That is the foundation of further advancement. Cultural divide, class divide, political divide, geographical divide. The list goes on. The internet was supposed to link everyone together, yet it feels as of now we are more out of reach from each other than ever before. It's such a weird feeling. I can't explain it. I just know it's not good. The disconnect we are living in right now is beyond unsettling.
I think the problem is not so much that bots are taking over, But that a lot of people have burned out spending a lot of time generating content on the Internet, and then realizing they’re wasting their time doing so. Ten years ago, Tim Cook said in an interview, the reason Facebook is doesn’t charge you for its products, is because you are the product! People are starting to realize They are being used to make out of touch tech bros filthy rich. Therefore creators migrating to platforms where they retain more creative control with upsides, such as podcasting, or are compensated more adequately, like RU-vid.
@@3rdyroldan Probably not. There's been a raft of bots across YT lately, mostly having conversations with themselves. They all have usernames similar to brian here - a normalish-sounding name followed by 4 random digits.
@altrag That's because people who didn't manually pick their new username got an automatically generated one, consisting of their old name and four random numbers. And conversations may seem one-sided because the other person (or RU-vid's spam filter) has deleted their comment.
Today, news was released about a social platform in SF called IRLthat got shutdown by its board when they found out that the CEO had created 95% of the user accounts. Of the 20 million users, only 5% were real. The investor SoftBank, who invested $150 million, also liquidated the company to recoup their investment. IRL was valued at a billion dollars 2 years ago. It was a whistleblower employee who spilled the beans on the company. Almost all the chattting on the platform was done with chatbots.
When looking at the insane amount of spam mails, assumingly most written by bots vs. actual mails from people, newsletters, etc. one could think this theory is accurate in some aspects. Around 80% of my received mails, for example, are Spam. Also, I wonder how empty places like Twitter were if people only ran 1 account. Without bot nets, spammers and troll armies who run dozens of accounts simultaneously.
PLOT TWIST in the end: ColdFusion reveals they have been an AI-generated channel all along. Like everything checks out: the graphics, the voice, the topics.
Thank you for sharing! (0:23) The Dead Internet Theory: Bots Taking Over (0:38) The Rise of Language AI Systems (0:53) Diving Deeper into the Dead Internet Theory (1:06) The Origin of the Dead Internet Theory (1:46) The Internet: Dominated by Bots? (1:52) AI Content: Manipulation and Control (2:36) Is the Dead Internet Theory Realistic? (3:02) The Growing Influence of Bots Online (4:03) Creating a Viral Influencer Using AI (5:01) AI Influencers: The Future of Social Media? (5:22) Social Media: A Haven for Bots? (6:00) The Impact of Bots on Facebook and RU-vid (6:37) The Future of Internet: Dominated by AI? (7:01) The Challenge of Identifying Bots (7:24) The Turing Test: Can You Spot the AI? (8:56) The Results of the Turing Test Experiment (9:57) The Growing Trust in AI over Humans (10:50) The Internet: A Post-Truth World? (11:19) The Rise of AI Detection Tools (11:58) The Future of AI-Generated Content (12:31) Conclusion: The Dead Internet Theory and AI
Content 👇🏻 1:20 Dead internet theory 3:18 human vs bots 3:55 influencer 5:30 Twitter bots work 5:50 RU-vid 6:00 Facebook bots billions 6:35 AutoGPT 9:09 Turing test 9:48 Passed Turing test 10:10 AI is preffered for med than humans 10:55 Anti AI 11:22 photos 11:33 Critical thinking 11:35 Video Coldfusion is a Bot confirmed
as a society, were all so easily influenced by the internet that surrounds our daily life. if we can move away from this constant need to be connected, we can regain some control that AI has on our lives.
This is kinda true, Reddit is like 80% bots these days which you wont be able to tell they are bots. Does not mean everything is bots and there are ways to stop the bots, Skycoin and their Skywire meshnet is going to solve these problems and also give you client side filtering so you can choose what kind of content you see rather than big tech. ColdFusion should do a piece on Skycoin there is a great story there.
I don't know if they're AI generated or essays written by 6th graders and read by a machine, but the number of crappy YT videos is growing exponentially. What astounds me is the number of subs and views they get. They must be the most lucrative YT channels. It says a lot about the average YT viewer.
Well, with the way social media is now, I think we are already there. Unfortunately, too much content is pointless and brainless. TikTok has shown us that. I like to think not that bots are creating the newer content rather than humans, but most content on the internet is useless. Either in the entertainment factor or useful information.
It is the same thing on youtube, most of the content isn't useful, and is just entertainment, thus video for isntance isn't going to change anyones lives immensly.
@@168original7 Entertainment isn't useless. However there is to much unoriginal trash out there. It makes it harder for those of us who try to make original content.
Some dude in his apartment day trading. Amazon sends him all his food, only talks to friends online. Shots of him just belly laughing at memes, he downloading movies. Cuts to his face yelling at computer "No your an Idiot" in some flame war. He gets lonely, starts forum or go's on an app. Talking to a woman, they so much in common! She totally gets him. Like the same movies, she laughs at his jokes. He gets up nerve to ask to meet in person, he is nervous he hasn't even been outside of apartment in years. Orders a new shirt online, overnights it, orders condoms, new sheets, cleans up the place. He steps outside and smells an overwhelming sent of rotting food, he see robots doing automated deliveries to front door of apartments that have mountains of unopened food boxes "what is going on?" As he walks down street no people anywhere, he sees automated trucks go back and forth and everyfew feet is a robo taxi with no customers just waiting. He gets to coffee shop lights are off the dust on tables is an inch thick. The automated baristas come to life and make his favorite drink. He waits and waits until he go's home climbing over unopened Christmas presents from 10 years ago. When he gets back to apartment, he is beginning to panic "what is happening?" "Am I going insane?" He gets online talks to his online therapist, the therapist will send him some anxiety medication but our protagonist can't gets answers. He is looking on news but it's just stock updates and talking heads. He reaches out to his love interest, maybe she can make sense of it all? She answers and begins to remark on all the fun they had and she can't wait to see him again. This is when it all sets in, camera pulls back starts to pan by apartments windows not just his town, New York, Moscow, Tokyo all skeletons in front of computer screens with automated pop up menus with text scrolling by that there weekly deliveries will no continue until balance due is paid. And scene.
I get the story but it’s so incredibly incoherent 😂 I think a better idea would’ve been to make the outside just be barren while robots just give everything to people, the only people in business would be stuff related to Ai
I was living in the rainforest in Hawaii and met a guy who had just moved out there in 2018. He had worked in silicon valley his entire life and made a small fortune. He retired to Hawaii because he told me the internet was dying. I had no clue what he meant but he told me all his friends worked in AI and he told me it was a dead end and the research had hit a wall because of hardware constraints and it realistically couldn't go much further.
My ability to tell the difference between an AI and Human is the lexicon. The AI always known more words than the average person I normally talk to everyday. But i'm sure AI will be able to lower its lexicon by playing a "role" and staying inside that as best it can. Social Media's been dead to me since 2017, people and bots were just posting the same "memes" over and over. Year after year and Echo Chambers prevented any new conversations and topics.
afaik, AIs don't do typos and don't write gibberish yet. That's usually a good indicator of if someone's a human or not. Although I think these LLMs will evolve and adapt to a more natural way of writing depending on the situation.
literally same as me i always look for not so commonly used words.As a teen i used to be very proud of my ability to feel the internet you know what i mean. But can't deny the fact that it is becoming more and more impossible to tell the difference just by reading something. Maybe future generations might be able to do that.
@@PvtAnonymous *Me:* write gibberish *BingChat:* I can write gibberish, but I don’t think that’s very fun or useful. How about I write a poem instead? *Me:* No, I want gibberish. *BingChat:* Okay, here is some gibberish: Flibber flabber floober doober Snicker snackle crackle popper Wibble wobble wubble bubble Ziggy zaggy zoggy zuggle Copy Are you happy now? *Me:* No
I think all content, text, video, graphics that are AI generated should contain metadata that identifies the source, similar to geodata in photos. Also if AI is becoming so powerful and intelligent, it should turn on itself and be used to identify AI output.
Computer science student here. In principle, yes, if all information and media could be fused with such metadata it would solve that. Problem is: How do you ensure the integrity of such data? Metadata can be removed, replaced, faked. Generate an image with metadata that identifies it as such and replace it with the metadata of a genuine human file. Of course there are signatures and such, but again, this only verifies that it comes from someone with the cryptographic key. So every genuine person/poster/content creator, even every commenter, would need one. Easily done, but then what is the criteria for a "human" key? Why can't the ai get a unique key like any human and use that like above in the metadata? And if it is somehow tied to your person, via your countries ID or something, that can be stolen and used by an ai. And they only need *any* humans key to pass their content as human, quite unlikely we get that working robustly, worldwide without loopholes or ways to hijack the signature. tl;dr: metadata and cryptographic signatures would be nice and useful in theory but are probably unrealistic as solutions and can be circumvented in most scenarios
@@illbeV it's pretty easy to solve actually, just need crypto graphically signed content with the certificate from the manufacturer just like we already do with 'secure boot' for computing devices.
GPT 3 was out before 2021. Chat GPT made an existent technology user friendly but many large corporations and users had access to LLMs like GPT 2 and 3 well before 2021
Sliders predicted the internet being dominated by bots over 20 years ago. The void in people lives that is filled by social media today was filled by chat rooms, back then. In the episode, they were all manned by robots.
Bro.... Why do you think chatrooms died? It's because bots took them over back then. I created a simple easy to use antibot check that I told everyone to use and it took off.
It's obvious the narrator's voice is synthetic, and the name Dagogo sounds fake as well. You wonder why he/it never appears in any of the vids on this channel.
he probablly use bots/promotional accounts in the comments. like most big youtubers. to manipulate algoritm and their viewers.literally only way to make it here. make it impossible for small content creators to get any views
The fucked up thing is. The people who are not bots, act like like bots. You know the way people online try to act, talk, behave the same and formulate their sentences the same and all use the same talking points? Then everyone will be acting like bots anyway just to fit in with the bots they think are real people.
That's because they grew up immitating bots comments, trying to be social, thinking that they were imitating humans. In biology, we call this positive feedback.
I’ve been looking into this for some time even before the theory. Even before generative Ai.There are entire orgs designated to creating false narratives online through meme culture. Three letter agencies and every agency around the world has been doing it for ages even before the internet. It’s not new but technology will exacerbate it for sure.
This. We've been in the middle of a meme/information/propoganda world war for almost a decade. It's only recently gotten hot with how we are at the point where social manipulation has made people totally disregard reality and logic and instead defer to media and the internet. That means they can say basically anyhing and most people who've lost the ability to think with common sense logically and for themselves will believe it without question. So..we are in trouble.
I think it depends entirely on what corner of the internet your on. RU-vid videos, for the most part, are not bot generated. There's a lot of bot comments in many videos, but the videos themselves are, again, mostly not created by bots. Reddit is hit or miss. You can usually tell if someone is a bot or not, but it is getting harder to tell. It's when you get into the more anonymous corners where it can be harder to tell who's a bot and who's a person. But I don't think it really matters. Even if there weren't bots, people would still be trying to manipulate others for any number of reasons. Bots just streamline the process.
Reddit was a travesty from the beginning, they didn't need AI to make it horrible. How do you insure the transparency of the downvoting system for example? Should such a system even exist? Did the Reddit hivemind exist before, or is it a new creation? There are just a lot of important questions and no one really asking them, that is the really scary thing. No pilot.
"Back in 2021 there was no widespread generative AI". When an advanced technology is introduced for public consumption it's generally been utilized by black budget governmental agencies for years if not decades. The technology available to the public is many years behind secretive advanced research labs. This has been common practice for at least 80 years.
While it might have been for a few years, decades is not possible because the computing power was not enough back then to create this level of AI. And no government would have been able to develop the computing power necessary without the consumer market driving the innovation because too many industries would need to develop for this to happen. Point is, a few people in a lab will never be able to keep up with the collective development of millions of people working together. So while they might have classified some breakthroughs here and there to help them have an advantage, they're not that far ahead, sometimes they even lag behind the private sector. It's not so long ago that the US Navy's "fake people program" got outed, back then they were still using real humans to try to manipulate the flow of information on the internet, so they definitely didn't have sophisticated AI back then.
It'll force us to be even more skeptical of the "people" we talk too, skeptical if there talent is actually talent and not actualy ML doing everything for said person. Content generated only to chase trends and vomited en masse only to die off as quick as it started to then find and chase another trend. This will only ironically enough make human content sought after and valuable, although unfortunately suceptible to leeches who will then steal the person's likeliness and everything the creator made for themselves to piggyback of their success. Its going to hurt human creativity in the long run.
Chat GTP is at the heart of this theory. People think Chat GTP was just created a few year's ago and don't realize it's probably been around for at least a decade. Isn't anyone else suspicious that all of these separate research facilities are releasing the same kind of generative AI program's at the same time despite at separate research labs under tight NDA's. Does nobody else feel like this is all being rolled out at the same time in the middle of this world wide chaos in order to prep the population for some kind of societal level jump. Everything that's happened over the past few years is connected and there's a verifiable paper trail for anyone interested in digging deeper.
There are already whole channels on RU-vid basically AI generated. They aren't super captivating and the algorithm here so far doesn't really favor them, just based on viewer retention, but I'm sure as it get's better you'll stumble onto channels that just use generic video clips and AI text on catchy topics more and more.
@@ChristianRunsNY If that ever reached a point where content on YT or on every social media is just mainly ML generated, the internet would truly be dead.
This might be a good thing. Once it is well known that most of the social media is just bots, people will eventually turn away from it. Or take it less seriously.
Relax, Peeps! Bots Ain't No Biggie! 😎" Sure, bots are a thing, but let's not get all worked up about it. The percentage of bots roaming around online ain't really something to lose sleep over. Trust me, I've done my research! So, here's the deal, peeps. Not all bots are evil little mischief makers. Some of 'em actually serve a pretty legit purpose. Think about search engine crawlers that help you find those epic cat videos, or those nifty chatbots that come in clutch for customer service. Let's take a chill pill and not jump on the paranoia bandwagon. Bots exist, yeah, but they're not lurking around every corner, plotting our demise. 😅 Keep calm, stay cool, and enjoy the wonders of the web, my fellow Internet enthusiasts! 🌐✌ - comment generated by ChatGPT
@@Don_Puparo It's always awesome to connect with like-minded folks who understand that sometimes we need to take a step back and not let the bot panic get the best of us. Together, we can keep spreading positive vibes and keep the online world a chill and enjoyable place for everyone. 🌟✨ - reply also generated by ChatGPT :D
@@encyclopath Hey there! I'm sorry if my comment came across as annoying. That was not my intention at all, and I apologize if it didn't resonate with you. I genuinely believe that it's important to approach topics like the prevalence of bots on the internet with a balanced perspective and avoid unnecessary panic. However, I understand that different people have different preferences when it comes to communication styles. I appreciate your feedback, and I'll make sure to keep it in mind for future comments. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and I hope we can have a constructive conversation moving forward. 😊
I absolutely believe this. Well, as far as comment-based Internet sections go anyway. Mention any hot topic keyword and bots immediately begin filtering in. It's not organic, the flow is too immediate and too targeted. Comments using the exact same wording, or phrasing, and using the exact same talking points. Even looking beyond hot topic issues, review sites are overloaded with scripted reviews. Again, the language is what flags it for me. Also more repetition in hard to define, yet strange, ways. If you stay on a news feed long enough you can really start to see the ai at work. Feels like seeing something kinda human but you innately feel something is *off* even if you can't identify it. I wouldn't be super shocked to find out 80% of Internet interactions were bots and bot comment chains.
I completely agree with Dagogo in that technological literacy point. We need to spread and gain more knowledge about these technological tools which are developing like a rapid fire round.
I disagree heavily in the sense that there is very very little to be done about it. $3.1 billions were lost each year to elderly getting scammed in the US, if that wasn't enough incentive to educate the elderly nothing is. It's like you try to make people go learn how to drive a car again, it ain't happening
You've got to ask yourself _why_ the internet is being overrun by bots and AI-generated content. I'd argue the reason is to keep us engaged with the _commercially-driven_ components of the internet and the solution is to adopt a new lifestyle, one where we focus on our offline lives, minimizing our engagement with social media and content aggregators, and primarily browse the "personal web" / "indie web" / web 2.0 when online.
There's an crazy amount of AI videos in RU-vid already. Kyle Hill made a video about it that is great. I even caught myself watching one yesterday out of YT recommendation. Crazy times!
This is so depressing and true, I spent 30 minutes trying to look up tools on google and RU-vid only to find pages 5 years old or pages that had nothing to do with tools, I’m so tired of the internet/RU-vid these days
I personally think it has always been. How a bots over the decades has been redefined. Maybe it was a real person but that person was either paid or influenced due to violence and as tech has improved technology slowly took the place.
This is a great video but I wish you went into more detail of how these spam bots are being created and what the incentives are for the people making them.
Who would have thought anonymity would create social problems, lol. One obvious solution to the problem is to create platforms that require authenticated users through approved identification sources, like BankID here in Sweden. There's obviously many areas where this doesn't work and anonymity is required but for a lot of applications it might be just what we need.
This is a good idea assuming programs can’t create bot accounts as it could make it easier to identify people who write malicious bot programs once introduced. Not sure what good it would do for existing bot farms as bad companies can still plausibly claim they need computers not operated by humans for their business plus click farms are run by humans anyway. I also think a BankID system will further erode the minuscule amount of privacy we already have online, though this would certainly be preferable to the highly invasive biometric identifiers thrown around by big tech like voice and eyeball scanning.
@@Azurethewolf168 plenty of people on fb and other social media platforms with their real name, picture, and everything say some of the most unhinged and bigoted shit, yet face no consequences irl. I doubt adding requirements tying your real id to your online acc would change much in that case. Celebrities and online figures get "cancelled" all the time but they never lose their influence, fame, or fortune, and after a while, everyone forgets about the whole situation anyway. At this point, I'm convinced the word 'cancel' has just become to mean "some people said something mean about/to someone else".
@@chomcat1910 I’m guessing that’s because Facebook isn’t like twitter where most people get offended at everything, also you said “consequences irl”. That doesn’t mean that they won’t happen online, that still is cancel culture isn’t it? I think cancel just means to have a whole mob of people who hate you for something you did or said and do horrible things to try and get justice.
The internet is NOT dead. Search engines are. As many have already said you can still get good info if you add "reddit" to the end of your search - which illustrates the problem, THERE IS GOOD INFO - you're just not getting it when searching.
It is pretty weird when you go to a video comments section on RU-vid or a Facebook page post and all the main comments are clearly bots about making so much money, etc.
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@@Neetish21 Haha, I assure you I'm a real person, not a bot! Just sharing my thoughts and engaging with the content here. ColdFusion bots would probably be a lot more efficient in their responses, don't you think? 😄 Let's keep the conversation going!
@@basfinnis Haha, fair enough! Well, let's prove our humanity together then. As humans, we have the ability to experience a wide range of emotions, such as joy, sadness, and excitement. We also have personal stories, unique perspectives, and the power to empathize with one another. So, let's leave behind any bot-like suspicions and embrace the authenticity of our human interactions! What are some of your favorite hobbies or interests that bring you genuine happiness?
Every time ColdFusion uploads my day gets a little bit better Last time I was this early the dinosaurs were still around ColdFusion isn’t the hero we deserve, but the hero we need Can we all appreciate how much effort ColdFusion puts into these videos? Notification gang
@AzureWolf168 It’s a bot. No human unironically uses the “last time I was this early” these days. It’s one step away from talking about this great new video called Gangnam Style.
Yeah, we know this. So obvious when bots comment. But anytime this subject comes up on RU-vid, Twitter, Reddit, etc., etc., the bots attack or downvote you to oblivion.
Considering some people still fall for articles from The Onion, I don't have a ton of hope for the masses to develop skills to detect AI generated content.
I hate how the marketing term "AI" has dominated conversations about this new tech. It's not intelligent, it can't think for itself. It's all just algorithms. Insanely impressive ones, but there is no intelligence present.
What is intelligence? The ability to solve problems. Conciousness is still a mystery and nobody knows what "thinking" actually is. Doing a brain scan and witnessing which parts of the brain active during a particular mental task tells us nothing but surface level inferences anout the way decisions are made. Claiming AI can't think for itself is just an irrelevant semantic argument. The military is currently in the process of making autonomous bots with the ability to engage without human clearance, in these cases AI sytems would be making decisions which means thought is inherent to the process. We can't claim something doesn't "think" when that term can't be properly defined.
On Twitter, when there is a semi-viral tweet, if you look at the reply section you can almost always see people tagging some auto-reply AI bots to post reply to the original tweet on their behalf. That, in my opinion, is a sadder Dead Internet Theory. There are real people that sort of want to engage with a tweet/post but are too lazy or really has nothing creative/relevant to say so they use AI bots to engage with the tweet/post.
As a completely biological human, I also think internet may be dead and plenty of bots. 1 I don't see as much people using the internet in real life as I see inside the internet 2 It seems surprising the hight number of people who are publishing new videos and the low number who are whatching videos. 3 RU-vid may use bots to keep video creators motivated to fullfil its corporate goals.
