The Intersectional Crackup with Douglas Murray (Ep.20) 

Really enjoyed this episode. One of the most requested guests this year! Enjoy!

A black man and a gay man walk into a room ... and have an absolutely fascinating conversation that has nothing to do with being black or gay.

I love Murray’s fairness, and honesty, “If you aren’t supposed to be ashamed of [something] then you shouldn’t be proud of it either.” This is another example of the idea of over-correcting an error that has been made for some length of time in our history.

"They are setting up a game that is arranged for their own intellectual comfort" PERFECT ANALYSIS, Douglas! And by the way, anyone who states that they cannot explain a concept that they want people to accept should immediately be discredited. (Kendi)

Thank you for recommending Ground News, I think this is EXACTLY what the world needs

Intelligent human conversation. Nothing to beat it.

Two of my favorites on one podcast. This is gonna be good. Regards a listener in cold Norway.

"They write atrociously, because they think atrociously." -Douglas Murray on CRT writers. Damn.

When Douglas leaves the room I'm always like "COME BACK I WANT TO HEAR MORE!"

I don't know why, but I love the cadence of Douglas Murray's voice. It's as if he's treating everything he's saying like it's poetry.

Heterodoxy at its best. Two incredible minds in an honest, good faith pursuit of truth. Very refreshing.

I love you guys! For real. I am so, so grateful for your work.

This conversation is a flare on the path. Thank you!

2 of the best out. The Madness of Crowds is essential reading to understand what is happening presently in the world

THANK YOU for talking about "good" & "bad" writing. I am an high school art teacher and I can tell you that so many students at the high school level have difficulty constructing a clear and understandable SENTENCE, let alone a clear and understandable paragraph or essay. And what horrifies me is that there are actually educators who are calling for teachers to stop correcting students' grammar, vocabulary, spelling and punctuation in their written work. My obvious question is, how will students learn to write in order to be understood if teachers do not correct student writing???

One of the best, most interesting interviews with Douglas Murray. Coleman's calm manner perfectly suits this type of deep and thoughtful discussion

If nothing else, a conversation like this helps you see and assimilate how complex thought can be articulated and expanded. Not in 90 second bubble-headed segments on establishment media, but here in the plane of long form human discourse. Bravo!

Great conversation Coleman...I'm recommending you to many people...your thinking is clear, honest and open...greetings from Ireland

Wonderful conversation. I lean left politically but have deep respect for Douglas Murray's thinking.

So glad to hear your comment about buddhism understanding that more is not better and Mr Murray's quoting St Paul's conflict with self and actions. Ancient wisdom needs continued emphasis! Thank you both!

Douglas Murray is a gift! Thanks for this excellent conversation!

Brilliant interview. Insightful and inspiring. Thank you. I needed this and didn't even know it.

Installed the app in first two minutes. I have been looking for something that brings balance. Thanks for the advice

I am impressed that these two scholars speak so respectfully and patiently about people and ideas that disgust me. I think that's the best lesson of the whole conversation. My respect and thanks to Coleman and Douglas.

Excellent conversation. Would happily pay for more !

So encouraged by this conversation. Thanks so much to you both, gentlemen. Keep fighting the good fight. Cheers!

Yes !! I’ve been waiting for this forever. Coleman and Douglas teased this on Twitter and Instagram over a month ago...

The ending was superb. Two men that just had an honest conversation and in mutual respect for each other saying good bye. It`s these little moments that I witness, and as they stand out I feel hope for our culture.

Two of the best. I have been listening to a lot of DM lately, but somehow this conversation brought out new depth. Thank you.

Two of my heroes smashing brains together, outstanding. Thanks so much for organising this Coleman. Happy Christmas too from out here on the net.

The first sponsor I'm excited about! What a brilliant idea, been thinking that something like this should exist for a while now. Fantastic!!

Thank you for the Ground News tip! I am starved for real unbiased news!

Best interview of 2020! My 2 favourite thinkers 🙌🏻💙🥰🤩

This has been in my watch later for so long, I'm glad that I've watched it. Also downloaded Ground News.

What a wonderful discussion, thank you both so very much. Please be safe and take care.

I simply adore Douglas Murray. Imho he certainly has found his calling in the world. And his dry humour is marvellous. Thank you, a most enjoyable interview!

Love both of you guys. Thanks for a great episode, Coleman.

That was about 2 hours too short. Fantastic Coleman thankyou so much.

Excited to listen to this episode!

"Progress that ends with the brilliant arrival of you". Priceless. And it's an attitude that I think really gained sway with my baby boomer generation, and has now reached a toxic stage.

What a stimulating conversation! One of your best. I was disappointed when it ended

Love it. Great guest, excellent host guiding the conversation.

Give people an amazing conversation and they will still complain about the audio clipping short a few times. Please, there is so much positive here. Let that be the focus.

It means so much to hear conversations like this. Really appreciate both of you.

Fascinating conversation, many thanks. The quote from Paul around 51:00 is from Romans 7. It is worth pointing out that Christians are listening to both of you. Indeed Douglas's comments about the church in the UK have been sobering, accurate and prophetic in equal measure.

Douglas Murray articulates very clearly, the problems of the current “social justice” climate in The Madness of Crowds.

Love the idea behind the Ground News app, have downloaded. Hope it works as shown.

Really looking forward to this. Just in time for my christmas holiday, no less.

You both serve and serve well . For this I’m grateful.

I recently came across you on a podcast, thank you for these episodes, I am really enjoying getting to know your points of views and way of interacting with others!

I really needed this conversation. Thank you.

What an extraordinary interview! Deliriously happy to encounter this guy Coleman! So nuanced a thinker.!

2 bright minds! Love it. I hope more of these discussions get shared and absorbed by people.

Always erudite and thoughtful. Thank you for offering moderate careful conversations.

This is the most thoughtful and successful of Murray's interviews/discussions I have listened to, to date. Our current cultural impasse stems from a particular crisis in liberal capitalist culture, to some extent spurred by an intentional, neocon misreading of Fukayama's observations on 'the end of history' and partially from the same political misreading of Ferayerbend's observation, 'anything goes'. These wilful misreadings serve the naturalisation of a globalised, so called 'free market' very neatly. Commensurate with this politically motivated reduction of the necessary and inevitable, epistemological juncture of a 'postmodern deconstruction' to a relativistic re-inscription of binary terms, the so called 'woke' generation have rather lazily, filled the vacuum in stable notions of (religious, ideological, nationalistic) identity, with their own intentional misreading and reduction of the idea of 'intersectionality' (c.f Crenshaw - before Butler) and in so doing have set up a chimera - all display and bluster - that has set the real goals of a philosophy of 'differance' (sic. cf Derrida) back by several decades. The world we currently live in has descended into a 'dark ages' characterised by an unbridled technological diffusion of a new babel of mumbo-jumbo - the pseudo religious and pseudo scientific rantings of a putative (though anachronistic) 'right' and 'left', which leaves us emotionally clinging to our security blanket of choice. Meanwhile, any serious investigation and attempt to 'reconstruct' a workable and sustainable world view is constantly interrupted and elided by all this paranoid, narcissistic and vicious bickering. Which facet of humanity always gains (in terms of power) from these wilful, cultural interventions of 'divide and rule', historically? Murray seems to genuinely struggle with this question here. I would like to see him pay even closer attention to the structures of our current socio-economic arrangements. He has a fatal flaw, it seems to me, in that he passes over the responsibilities and machinations of the real economic elites in constructing or at very least, steering our current malaise. Maybe this is a reflection of his 'habitus' (c.f Boudieu), having grown up in a Catholic school and then Eton and Oxford, he is perhaps, stoically inclined to "render up to Caesar that which is [unproblematically] Caesars'. I would ask him to rather, question, if not everything, then certainly 'the elephant in the room'. I have no doubt that he is capable of doing this, although he might have to get to grips with some of those 'difficult' books (I too, would 'rather read Rilke' and value poetry, performance and music above dry theory but also draw on a broad school of philosophy to help keep abreast of the philosophical challenges facing the species) and look forward to even more erudition on his part. The wise man dismisses nothing.

Thank you for this conversation Mr. Hughes. I appreciate your work. Mr. Murray impresses as usual.

Absolutely love both these guys, this should be great. Also ground news looks brilliant.

Excellent conversation. Thank you.

Thank you, I really enjoyed this conversation.

Dougie sure is tight-lipped about his bicep routine...

Excellent conversation, thanks guys

Outstanding. Thank you both for this.

I really like Ground News and I'm glad you are promoting it.

I have so looked forward to this! Two of my absolute favourites. Thank you both ever so much ✨

Thank you Coleman for this thought provoking conversation.

Best episode yet. We need more critical thinkers to start calling out the new regime

Fantastic discussion! Big fan of both of you!

Wonderful conversation kudos gentlemen

How did people in the past find meaning? --Religious fundamentalism; war; racism; imperialism; political revolution; etc.

Great conversation! Two of the best, together at last. Wonderful!

The noise gate threshold is way too high. Voices cut out too quickly at the end of statements and too slow to open when talking starts. Especially with a guest who uses space in his speaking, when he pauses it sounds like he's done talking.

Fantastic; could we ask for more.

I always find Coleman such a gentlemanly man. You could almost say a quintessentially Englishman who just happens to be an American. What a pleasure it was to hear him and Douglas talk, a real meeting of thoughtful and thought provoking, like minded minds.

I wish guys like Coleman and loury could get real national tv time

Thank you. Keep sane in a difficult time. It is time to keep building bridges.

“Why would I read a critical race theory book when I could be reading Rilke?” That’s it in a sentence.

Excellent conversation.

Really lovely episode, so calming yet very interesting conversation conducted in a non profane manner

Thank you Coleman for invit the most inteligent english gentelman who speak truth! Bright minds!! Excellent conversation..we keep hope thanks to you both❤

Two of my favourites in a discussion.

Dial down the threshold on the noise gate Doug, you're dropping out in the quiet bits.

Great conversation (as always with these thinkers). Douglas, next time use an expander rather than a gate as it's a shame to lose any audio as precious as this!

Always nice to hear Doug speak about these things. Also, just a heads up.. the gate on your mic was a little too heavy in terms of threshold of the gate itself. Also, the audio graphics in the video are mirrored. The eq image should be flipped. Not that important, I know.. but I’m an audio engineer 😂

is there a slightly over-zealous noise gate on Douglas' vocal?...

Coleman if you're reading this : Make sure the sizes of the heads are the same when you put them together in a picture. Otherwise it's a little strange.

Excellent! Best to Douglas and yourself! Keep at it!

There was no other game in town - Except until 2008 and the Ron Paul Liberty Movement!

That Aha! moment he describes at 33:50 is exactly what I felt when I read Atlas Shrugged. She put into words everything that I felt was normal and logical thinking, interacting and to be expected from myself and other people. Its a great thing.

My God Coleman ... you just made me make sense of my entire primary school/high school life. "Start with the thinking". ... I never found any of the texts they fawned over especially deep.

Congrats Coleman on being named on being named on "30 under 30" list. You are contributing mightily already in your own way and I appreciate your effort!

Murray's metaphor of the river is really quite good.

Tim Pool gave a definition of "systemic racism" a couple of days ago; he believes that systemic racism just means that we had past race based policies (i.e. Jim Crow laws) and practices (redlining) built into the system which still negatively effect specific races today.... whereas "institutional racism" were the actual policies and practices. If a problem still exists ((i.e. generational wealth transfer), this is the most sensible way of looking at it that I've heard. "The paradox of a racist society without racists" that the woke cult seem to be pushing on us without any coherent clarification needs to stop; and so does their racist path to redemption and salvation.

It's always so beautiful to hear the mind of Douglas unwrap in common sense philosophy and poignant unavoidable truth's

Just relistened to this one for the 4th time. Two titans at their finest.

This is my first listen to Coleman and i like him. Like Douglas he's clearly gone to the original sources, read and understood them; he cites reading Kendi and Judith Butler in this video. I prefer it when hosts of these things have actually read the stuff they're complaining about rather than just relying on secondary sources; makes it feel more authentic. I also appreciate in the beginning where Coleman is squaring his intuition and experiences with the conservative approach about filling a "religion shaped hole" in everyone's heart. If you don't believe in god that shape is going to be hard to fill and than what? Much to ponder. Douglas is sublime as usual; but we all know that!

Douglas Murray is under-rated. Listen to the man... he is a prophetic voice in this generation.

YES! 100% on the money! I never felt that learning about the bible (to pick just ONE example of the foundational cultural artifacts of our culture) was a waste of time despite having come to atheism at a very young age already! And I know that it was my immersion in those "streams of thought running through our culture" that meant I never felt detached from a deep sense of purpose and meaning in my life. Literature, philosophy, history, if you approach them in an honest, and rigorous fashion, all help to guide your own feet along the path of wisdom that every generation strives for! Even an atheist can feel touched by bible stories, and the hippest, wokest, 21st century "snowflake" can learn something from studying the thoughts of "arch-patriarchal", slave-trading, imperialist, founding fathers because, ultimately, what we all are trying to reflect on is the same human nature.

What a wonderful conversation.

Once something has made it to the mainstream, why redirect it to a stagnant swamp. Why indeed.

Bro audio guy here. Let up on the gate. I'd be willing to help if you'd like. Other than that love that this conversation is happening. I've learned so much from both of you over the last year.