I just can’t believe they managed to make a Starfleet ship look scary… it’s an ordinary Starfleet ship, but knowing that it’s not on your side, and slowly rises up again to shot at you, is very scary
Any thing can be scary in the right circumstances, eagles are one of if not the biggest birds in the US they will kill a moose to eat do you know the one bird they don’t mess with? Any member of the jay family blue jays or robins because those little shits will swarm you and pick you to death
"I wanted it to feel like you somehow managed to get a lucky strike off into a dragon and now he’s really pissed. So we played with light, sound & music to make it as intimidating as possible." - Terry Matalas
@@shreddersaurusrex323 Alternate universe is another way of saying creatively bankrupt. Had they just done a feature length movie of Space Seed that would have been fine. But no they took it a step farther and ripped off a classic.
Other than the visual effects team who designed the Intrepid (who looks intimidating in every shot during the episode), credit also to the sound team and the music which really add to this scene. So nice to see every department en pointe and working well together.
It just hit me that this is the number one reason Picard S3 is so awesome - compared to the 'newer' Star Trek movies. It has real drama - not explosions left and right and HUUUUUGE plot holes. The newer movies just let us all down IMO. This makes up for it. Whoever did the writing here needs to continue....it is the only way they will keep us united as the Star Trek family that we are. In summary: The newer Star Trek movies are utter crap. Picard Season 3 is the new gold standard that we are begging for from this point on.
@@TheAnimeAlliance It's pretty much a tie between SNW and Picard. SNW was a brilliant show, but for Picard to endure 2 seasons of trash then come back with something so phenomenal is a testament to Terry Matalas. Let's hope that SNW and Picard season 3 will pave the way for a new wave of much better Trek :)
Reminds me of he Reliant as she approaches the Enterprise in TWoK. It's not level like you normally see the ships, it's at a slight angle, off kilter, unhinged - just like Khan. It's amazing how menacing the Reliant feels in that film and then how casual and beloved the Miranda class feels every other time she shows up on screen afterwards.
Reminds me of the scene from Star Trek 6 when chancellor gorkon’s flagship was getting ready to fire on the enterprise after being hit. Really enjoying this season of Picard!
Chekov: if they fire, with our shields down, we will not be able to respond... Love how he's saying that whilst everyone is talking at the same time so it's even more ominous.
My favorite detail is how the Intrepid’s systems slowly recover as it rises. The lights blink less and less, until it’s power is fully stabilized by the end.
Damn, I would love that to happen! I am so hoping to see a live action version of the Lower Decks cast, but I would think it did be Mariner in command by this time.
That shot of the Intrepid rising was brilliant, very intimidating despite, or perhaps because of the port nacelle being on fire. Can't decide. The music helped though.
The flaming nacelle gives it the look of a wounded, angry beast that's just been pushed to its last limits and is raising itself to full height to deal a final, fatal blow.
The nacelle being on fire in space I can roll with, as I have no idea what warp coils are made of, or what is in warp plasma. But smoke rising out of it in zero gravity, instead of fanning out in all directions evenly if you are going to take that route? Nah!!
@@nolanwhite1876 The warp coils are, as I understand, made of an incredibly dense and heavy tungsten alloy. Plasma is, well, plasma. In this case, the ionized biproduct of deuterium and its antimatter counterpart, which are hydrogen isotopes that when mixed, mutually annihilate releasing plasma and gamma radiation (hence why photon torpedoes are named as they are, incidentally, as gamma radiation is comprised of high energy photons.) A plasma fire in space is certainly possible since it doesn't need oxygen to burn, though the rising effect is most likely a stylistic byproduct of most Sci Fi shows depicting space in two dimensions. I suppose if you really wanted to make up an explanation, that may simply be the direction in which the plasma most easily flows out of the nacelle based on its internal geometry.
This is exactly what I've been Treking for, one angry ominous bird of prey. With its cinematography this can easily make it to the big screen. This has been a great season so far. Keep it up!!!!
Very cool! This is what all of us have waited decades for. I'm sad that there's only a few more episodes left! This needs to continue with another season, or spin-off series!
Not me. And not most people according to the ratings. This is not a very good show. I don't want angry Starships. I want to see what I'm looking at. I don't want to bridge that looks like a pinball machine on loan from Discovery. I want to have a whole episode with characters and dialogue without cutting away every 3 minutes. I don't want characters speaking platitudes and fortune cookie phrases. I don't want 5 bottle episodes of backstory exposition trauma to use the same sets, and the same type of exteriors.
I absolutely love how you can see the Intrepid struggling at first, but slowly you see power generation start transferring to the working nacelle. The lights stabilizing as engineers frantically transfer systems over and the hum of the shield generators and navigational thrusters kicking in......just amazing sound and visual design.
0:03 A real deep cut: the dots around the intrepid are clearly a visual reference to the low tech shield display with its green dots in TWOK (when the Reliant is forced via prefix code to lower its shields)!
@@jackvearncombe9892 Which is funny because they've repeatedly shown the shields are no longer a bubble, but a hull conforming energy field. But this is a nitpick, and if nitpicks are what we have left to complain about, they're definitely improving the show a lot.
More reasons why Picard is awesome. The end of that scene is wonderful. You can feel it pulling you right to the edge of your seat as the Warp drive comes back online but will it be in time!?
This scene was amazing because it did "less is more" to create something frightening, instead of gratuitous violence or evil laughter. Not only is it a callback to Wrath of Khan where you know something bad is going to happen, we never get a visual on whoever's in charge. And as it is, the enemy is figuratively and literally faceless, and only wishing for destruction. Add in to the fact that a lot of the Titan crew is now there, and the show at that point didn't really say anything about what's happening on the ship, you're forced to use your imagination to think about what's going on. And none of it can be any good. Now you know why Ro was so scared.
I like to imagine many enemies of the Federation have been in similar situations. "I thought the Federation were about peace?!" "Yeah right up until you make them angry!"
Jesus Christ I thought I would never see a real Star Trek episode again, thanks so much to all involved in this season of Picard, you are the best! And Ro sacrificing herself? Shed a tear that I can tell you.
@@Tcgaming67 oh it is very good for sure, but I'd personally say this final season of Picard has beaten its first season. but that's just my opinion on it
that music tho! the ships the feeling by far the best trek in years and it only took them 2 seasons of massive risks to finally understand what the fans want!
50 years from now they'll look back at how Picard S3 converted the remaining Star Wars fans into Star Trek fans because of Terry Matalas' excellent leadership!
The Intrepid looked like a pissed off older brother who had just been slapped across the face by his younger sibling ... Crazy how intimidating that was ...
Don't get me wrong, this scene really shows how a Federation starship can actually pull off menacing. But I think this scene would have been much more powerful if we had seen the Enterprise E squaring off against the Enterprise F. If only to make the situation that much more heartbreaking.
well, it would also be absurdly terrifying, we think this is scary with the Intrepid being bigger, the F is over 1000 meters in length, it isn't called the dreadnaught in starfleet for nothing, that thing is an absurd beast. And if that thing began attacking, well I wouldn't know what i'd feel, but it would be way more terrifying than this...
Honestly it be more heartbraking with the E-D going up against the E-F... Cause it be the ship that we know and love having spent a few years on, going up against not only her successor... But also the one design to go mano e mano against the likes of that literally beat the E-D to an inch of the plot and win.
@@ericzaiz8358that would be a tragic event especially considering how outgunned the D would be vs. the E or F The E could probably handle it with a struggle, but ideally the battle would include the Titan, that way it would be symbolic, with the past fighting to bring about a better future, The D/E taking down the F with the help of what would eventually become the G.
I love the look of the Intrepid in this show. It has such hero-ship potential. I actually like it better than the Titan’s design (which I also like). I would love to see it as the main ship of a ST series. I liked the old Hornet class that was released as blue prints in the 90’s. I bought it those prints at a convention when I was a kid. This ship looks like the evolution of that class.
Yah this was more terrifying than the shriek because 1. its a federation ship and 2. its more tragic to see how much Starfleet has fallen with the changeling infiltration.
So for the record, I am not a fan of Kurtzman era Trek for a multitude of reasons. Having said that, THIS is one of the best scenes of the entire Era I’ve ever seen. It had that exact same feeling as the scene in Rouge One where the AT-AT gets hit in the face with a rocket and just slowly turns back as if to say “Ex-fucking-cause me?”
For what it's worth, Klutzman had little to nothing to do with this season, and from what I hear is more than a little butthurt that it did so much better than any of his projects. Especially with a smaller budget.
Kurtzman had basically nothing to do with this season. Terry Matalas basically had free reign to do what he wanted (within budget) and Terry is a child of 90s Trek (quite literally, TNG was his favourite show as a teen and then he came straight out of collage to be Brannon Braga's assistant as DS9 & Voyager were on the air, and then joined the writing staff for Enterprise).
I simple can't believe this is the Picard new season. From previous season i was like "ok im gonna watch just to close this stuff". And boom... its just incredible!
U.S.S. Intrepid: Busted nacelle that’s on fire and leaking plasma. Damage to power conduits (hence flickering lights). Also U.S.S. Intrepid: I didn’t hear no bell.
This scene is exactly like the big guy gets a clean hit to the face during a fight, then slowly rises with a bloody glare that says, "You fucked up now."
If they fire on the Titan with Admiral Picard aboard, whether or not the Changelings have completely infiltrated Starfleet's Command and Control and High Command, they could start a Civil War. He has that kind of a profile, not to mention we all there are people out there like Ro who would go down shooting rather than ever believe he hand his crew have turned traitor. Unless that's the Changelings intent... Also, the Intrepid just lost a warp nacelle to a shuttlecraft ramming it, which has to have done catastrophic damage to the system. That looks a lot like plasma and coolant spraying into space, no matter damage control efforts. Engaging Titan in combat under those circumstances spells utter destruction, IF Captain Shaw finally realises that the Federation is so completely corrupted that physical conflict is the only way out...
It has the hulk of a battleship because of the traditional saucer design. they lost that in TNG designs even though they were transitioning into warships later on. Meanwhile the TOS ships are traditionally exploratory and science vessels yet still immensely powerful battleships when needed. This is more applicable to the TOS films but even the classic Enterprise could kick some ass and look good doing it.
I'm shocked at just how great the last (2) episodes of Picard have been. Who'd a thought?! They tweaked every little nuance in each episode of this season to really pump up the drama, suspense and excitement. After each episode, especially 2 & 3, it almost felt like I'd just watched a GREAT Star Trek Movie! And there were very few of those! Just when I thought that I'd NEVER see another great movie, let alone TV show, along came Picard Season 3. 🤯
As much as I absolutely _adore_ this scene, which believe me I do, I can't help but think that it would've hit even harder than it already does if the Interpid had been replaced with the Enterprise-F.. Sure the Odyssey Class is much larger than the Neo-Conny, but seeing *_The Enterprise_* of all ships compromised by the Changelings would've been a massive gutpunch and also made the stakes even more apparent.
Somehow this appears more menacing than the giant dreadnought USS Vengeance in IntoDarkness, possibly because the better perspective makes the Intrepid seem more real while the distorted perspective of the movie made Vengeance seem too huge.
Seriously! This is a great shot with everything working together and no one element overpowering another. Just enough dialogue, just enough uptick of the music, the shot of it slowly rising almost looks animalistic, and the slowly rising hum of the power systems getting ready. Picard S3 is firing on all cylinders!
It really reminded me of that moment in ST2 when the Enterprise rises behind the Reliant, probably because its silhouette is a bit similar to the refit-con. Except in this case rather than hyping up, it's flipped to an "oh shit" moment. lol I never thought about it till now but "angry starship" really is kind of an apt description in both cases.
Yeah that was really menacing. Last Starfleet ship I can recall looking that mean was the Reliant! Really excited to see where this series is going because of all things I did NOT expect to get a new threat from the Changelings! I hope they end up going by DS9, even if just to do a flyby on the way to the wormhole and go to the Gamma Quadrant. I would seriously flip out if that happens.
