The Iron Claw Scene That Hit Kevin Von Erich's Emotions Hard 

I think it was Bronco Lubich he once asked , "is it okay love love and hate my father at the same time "

Did you know his dad? Did you live with them when they were at home? Then shut up about it you are going off what you think is father was like off of 3rd party news sites etc....I believe Kevin if he said his dad was a good man that is good enough for me.

@@SimplyChaotic98 I won't blame Fritz for what he did toward the end of his life, but he still raised a household of boys that didn't know how to talk about their problems and it killed 4 out of the 6 of them, leaving the 5th to carry the burden all alone. As someone who never had a dad, I am extremely generous to patriarchal figures. But Fritz looked exactly as he should've looked in Iron Claw, because he was not that good of a dad. He failed Chris and Mike especially, Kerry and David you could argue would always get into wrestling and would always fall down to the drugs that were pumped in wrestling, but Chris and Mike were destined for different things had they lived in a household that allowed them such thoughts.

@@RyanKaufmankeep in mind merry only took pain killers to suppress the pain of his legs being stabbed and punctured leading his to be addicted in the process. But abuse will more than likely take them down that path regardless.

Kerry lost his foot. @@MegaMarvelMashup

“i used to be a brother”

I have 3 brothers and this got me good

It came right after the afterlife scene and I was legit crying the whole time... movies ND TV shows don't normally do that to me unless I feel a connection with the story or character. My dad on the other hand, lost his 4 hr old brother when he was run over by a car at the age of 4 in 1952 and has carried that visua ever since. I think that's why that scene made me cry like I did. That and the whole duality of happiness, in life and in death. Just a beautiful ending to an absolutely TRAGIC story. Obviously some things were left out but the people behind this film were all exceptional. Every last one of them... except the actor who played Ric Flair 😂 that portrayal was 🔥 🗑 hope it doesn't derail whoever that actor is career but that's the kind of role that can do it when you are mis cast AND botch it like that. Not saying it's his fault, just the worst part of the film

Very emotional. Wrestling didn’t protect the family, love did and God Is Love.

@jroff7475 weren't protected very well though. 5 brothers and only one is alive... I wouldn't call that a "working" strategy

Me too ❤

I agree. That afterlife scene was in Kevin’s mind. Beautiful scene.

Cool, and I think that the the symbolism of crossing the river styx made it clear that it was not. Either way I don’t think it’s super important, unless you’re an avowed atheist for some reason

Yah Ur 100% right... It was his imagination... Loved that Scene 💔❤

Yeah, that's how I interpreted it... just as Kevin's wish for his brothers, rather than anything that was actually happening.

I thought it was based on Kevin’s experience, he said he had a vision once of all his brothers begging to join him, it legit made him suicidal

I would not have been okay with that personally. Put him in, even if it’s only a few minutes. The movie could’ve been longer if it needed. I’d just be heartbroken if they completely erased one of my siblings. No mention of him whatsoever

@@ukelseleAGREED. That choice was crazy to me. The movie has an average runtime. They should’ve made it happen.

Another reason that Chris was left out of the film, is because the producer felt that a fourth brother dying would have made the movie too sad. Three Von Erichs with untimely deaths were enough for the flow of the movie.

@@megamouthspike1930 Yeah I read that it was to the point that the studio wasn't going to greenlight the movie because they felt it would overwhelm the audience. Their hands were tied if they wanted the movie to get made.

​@@megamouthspike1930Too sad?! Oh boo hoo. . . They are taking on a real life story, with a real family, with real tragedies and hardships. What did they expect? Pretending Chris didn't exist and die, is like doing a film on the Hart family; several of the siblings and their in laws are all deceased but they don't include Owen because he was the youngest and his death would make the film "Too depressing". Nope. You include the whole family or don't bother in my opinion!

Yeah, till you realize that family doesn’t mean the same thing to everyone.

Its giving Jackson 5

@UwU-pk6nv Grow up.

Why would you want to after that!!!! That man is getting what’s coming

I wonder why he chose not to consult with Kevin? I think he was worried due to Kevin still seemingly worshiping his father he was worried he would not get the true character but a sanitized one. Also, I think the movie actually portrayed his father more positivity than he was.

But Kevin would have said no probably, and then no movie would have been made.

@@freddiegrace3770 but according to Kevin they made his dad mean and he wasn’t that mean and brut in real life

@@freddiegrace3770 I agree with you about Fritz. He expected you to live up to his high standards or you were a failure and I believe his boys took that to heart and they'd rather die than to dissapoint daddy.

The casting of the brothers was terrible. They’re all good actors but they have very small men portraying who are way shorter and a hundred lbs lighter’s playing huge wrestlers which makes no sense. Zac looked more like a wrestler than the other men but they thought he should be extremely tan like Kerry even though Zac was portraying Kevin lol. The Rick Flair guy was just awful. Good movie but extremely inaccurate.

Same. Maybe he gave it a rewatch? Read that as well. It's interesting. Happy he was satisfied with the movie as a whole.

There were moments where the Father was pretty damn decent. After one of them is incredibly successful in the wrestling business, he tells the other sons that their excellence and presence is what helped push the the successful son forward. He even says that he is proud of them as well. I forget the other scene, but the move Father handled some other situations with grace and love for his sons.

​@@diraskadude no, if you think that father at any point acted well in the film you need to reevaluate the way you interact with people

exactly. The film is highly overrated and gets way too much wrong to make it passable.

Matt Riddle would’ve made an excellent Kerry

@ivanrenard3153have you not seen real photos of the brothers? Kerry was 6’2 250lbs Jeremy Allen White was a terrible cast, great actor but not for that role

Exactly!

Just watch it

God knows if I were making a movie based on real people's lives my first step would be to talk to those said people, if they're still around. It disappoints me that the movie industry will still take such an insensitive approach to these bio flicks.

Agree with you 100 💯 percent! No Family members get left behind. That was a no no to leave a brother out of the picture. But Chris is in heaven and God is with him and his Family. Amen 🙏🌎

Stop it do you want the family dog in the movie Chris wasn't on the level of his other 3 brothers

This is true- also, the guy playing Kerry should have been massive.

Ok 🤡

The guy playing Kerry was a joke. Kerry used to pick up and bear hug 400lbs men and did feats of strength. 6ft 3, 270lbs. When the ring announcer said they weighed a combined weight of 690lbs I burst out laughing. Hell, even Kevin's wife was taller than Kerry in this film

Glad i’m not the only person who noticed that,kerry was a very large man,6ft 3 & 254Ibs with one of the most impressive physiques ever. Jeremy Allen White was far too small to play him.

@@MrLadiesman216 His portrayal of Kerry was powerful. He really acted like a big dude. Almost forgot he is tiny until he stood next to Zac !

I just watched it today and it took me a long time to do so. Growing up here in Texas.. witnessing all the tragedy. But that scene with all the brothers and little Jack, I had to cut the movie off and ugly cry

They wanted to go with “great actor first, then focus on the muscle”

I get where you’re coming from though. Knowing how physically imposing they were in real life took me out a couple times seeing his 5’9 stature in the movie

@@DReavesJermey isn’t even 5’9. All of them were too small for the roles they played. But there acting made up for it

@@craigludomus627 you’re right, he’s actually 5’7”. & yeah I agree.

They removed one of the brothers who also passed

The only thing that was good about that movie was the fact of how much the brothers loved each other. IMO they ruined the story.

​@@dana8567gtfo Dana. that was the whole point. Kevin told Sean the one thing he wanted the movie to show is how much they loved each other 🤦🏻‍♂️

Tbh the real story is way more dramatic so they did a good job imo

@@yungugh1-689 was it a real brother or the guy they tried to pass off as a brother?

Now. That’s a cinematic universe

@@alexmcphee6789 Dude, you and everyone would absolutely love what I would have planned for this kind of project. I think the problem was the medium was all wrong, but my way would’ve been supremely better.

@@AlphachadEpicCollector I agree. It wasn’t till I took it in and thought. The actor for Fritz. Man he nailed it David? Fantastic part Mike? That one was a fantastic choice but with knowing the story I’d rather see Chris be involved as his own person. Kerry. Surprisingly good I rooted for the guy. Even after seeing the stump scene. Kevin. God oh God. Poor man, but efron surely played the part out of it I’m not disagreeing. I’d like to see what you would have done. Well done

It can still be done..... do it

@@El-ingobernable One day, maybe… 😉

the director explained why and even talked with Kevin about it and he agreed that it was best. Plus Kevin said he loved the movie. If he did i dont really see why some have such an issue with it.

Perhaps in a lot of ways, the old man was a monster.

@@Tbone.357I’m sure he was a bit of both…

Kerry was 6'2" and Jeremy is 5'7". He looked so little in the ring. BUT he did have the mannerisms to pull it off.

Oh God, he was horrible!! I truly believe that actor had no clue who Ric Flair is.

@@Mario_Gillette Yeah. You could tell he wasn’t a fan of wrestling. He just looked at a couple of clips of Ric Flair and said “I got it” and just did what he thought was ok for the film when it wasn’t an actual depiction of Flair.

Kevin knows the truth. You don't

Didn’t really happen

the person who made that accusation almost immediately said they made it up once people started scrutinizing it.

@@supersasukemaniac says who, him?