Before the 7th of October attacks on Israel, my knowledge on Israel was very vague and I'd support Israel, but Prof Pappe's lectures in different platforms opened my eyes. I kept studying and learned the truth. I'm grateful to Prof Pappe for telling us the true story.
Well it goes to show education in the modern setting is not doing it's job of real education which used to mean to lead out what is within, like socrates said long ago learning is a process of recollection, to bring forth the genuine genius within. Modern educational environment is more like indoctrination to make one a cog in the western machinery of corrupt capitalism. Slavery never truly disappeared in it's totality, what takes it's place is the modern wage slave culture and modern education inculcate that status, everyone is assigned their place in the pyramid.
I'm sorry, but what Israel was doing before before Oct 7th was very obvious. They have been dehumanizing, dispossessing and violating Palestinian human rights for 70+ years. What more evidence or information did you need?
This man ..prof pappe ,prof Norman Finkelstein,prof naom Chomsky and media journalist like Chris hedger and max Blementhal are beacons of moral justice and integrity with intellectualism.there efforts will be be remembered and taught in history classes .we ,the moral concious people of the world are profusely grateful and inspired by them .🙏🙏🎉🎉
To call Blumenthal a beacon of moral justice is to completely overlook the vile propaganda, that he did in favor of the fascistic dictator Bashar Al-Assad. The Palestinian cause is not fought by denying the atrocities committed by Israels enemies. You are welcome to research Mr Blumenthal's work on Syria yourself
Yes, I have long called it a political mafia. Some Italians have the criminal mafia, and some Jews have these lobbies which make the Italian mafia look like angels because they haven't massacted 10s of thousands of people.
Hell yeah! I love being a supporter and watching them grow and improve. They're always punching above their weight and bring on top quality guests. We must help them keep growing, they are the future of journalism ✊
Yeah, or what the Americans did, or the Chinese, or the Sudanese, or the Iranians, or the Ruandies, or the Serbs, or the Russians, or… It’s all pretty horrible
Fascinating! Prof. Pappe's "Ten Myths About Israel" and "The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories" have transformed my understanding of the Israel-Palestine conflict. I will add his new book to my reading list. Thank you both for an informative and insightful conversation!
I'm not sure if it qualifies when the USA and the UK are defacto parents to Israel as Israel can't stand on its own two feet without the sweat and deaths of their nations
I condemn the terrorist acts and war crimes of Israel. I support the creation of a free and independent Palestinian state. This will end all the violence. As civil society, we need to accept that Israel is the occupying force and we need to do the right thing and give Palestinians their own independent state free from Israeli interferences. CRITCIZING ISRAEL ISN'T ANTISEMITISM!!! JUDAISM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ZIONISM !!!!
Is it not a bit late for peace now after more than 500,000 deaths..untold injurers attacks on Yemen Lebanon Iran and Syria not to mention the 'Wrest's' coalition in the fabricated wars against Afghanistan and Iraq following the 9/11 false flag.. things have changed You are coining a phase.. but what is A/S❓ Moreover what is Judaism❓
How does a Palestinian state come about? By whose authority? The UN? Israel ignores the UN as it wishes. As long as Israel opposes a Palestinian state, the US will not force the issue.
I live in the US. I made friends with a Palestinian while working at Xerox and saw the deep emotion in his eyes when he said, very simply, “I have no country.” He had no billionaires to stand up for him.
@@ahoyforsenchou7288 as long as Israeli's are going to have Islamic militants around their country, their borders will remain secure at the highest level , especially after 07 October . Israel is not only one country in the world , that has such secured borders !
Thank you, Novara.👍 Ilan Pappé, more than anyone else, has totally changed my understanding of Isr*"l, and how it's the top of the iceberg for all justice and even climate issues everywhere. His academia has been utterly galvanising for me, and give me so much hope. 🙏🇵🇸❤️
This man's smile as he teaches us, is priceless. To be valued as our guide, moral compass & heart intact! Brave, dedicated, brilliant life-energies in service to our humanity. Thank you both!
We are very fortunate to have Ilan Pappe living here in Exeter in the UK. We must do all we can to share his impressive work. Aaron asked some really good questions and it was clear how much Prof. Pappe enjoyed Aaron's deep-dive thoughtful approach.
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUSThey detained him for hours, demanded he unlock and turn over his phone so it could be checked for Ham.. connections. Not because he was suspected of violating any law or having Ham.. connections, just because he speaks critically of the belligerent state. That’s just a bit beyond questioning, more in the realm of fascist fear tactics to scare him into silence.
Thank you for this talk Aaron and big thanks to Ilan Pape for sharing his wonderful historical clarity and insights with us all. Much appreciated! Yaay for independent media !!!
Ich bin froh, dass es Menschen gibt, die sich in der Öffentlichkeit für Gerechtigkeit ⚖️ einsetzen und die Wahrheit sagen ‼️Dankeschön für diesen Beitrag 🕊
Great job NM. This interview was captivating. The interviewer asked questions that really encouraged Ilan to tell the listener what he’d discovered in his research. So dense with information. Now I’ll have to get the book. Thanks both for all your beautiful work.
Don't forget to get his first book that sets the tone of the entire situation that is happening now. "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine". That should be every one's first read.
What a brilliant conversation! Thank you both for sharing it with us! My big dream is to sit around a nice table full of delicious food in deep conversation with people like you. This interview made me feel almost there.
Well, don't get too excited. Madman Pappe talks fictional fake history that never actually happened. A convicted fraudster, masquerading as a serious historian.
I have recently been banned from commenting in a social democratic newspaper. I dontbknowxwhich comment got me banned but I suspect it was one about Starmer and the Israeli lobby. It appears I hit a nerve. This interview is an eye opener, especially about Blair. I shall definitely read the book. Thanks for another excellent interview.
The lobby has achieved a major succes with their Geert Wilders project. He went to Israel as a 17 year old and that's were the relationship was established. He just won the elections in The Netherlands and is now "running" the Dutch government. Geert even tried to get Gidi Markuszower to become a minister but he luckily failed to get through the screening. Everybody in Holland knows why! The Israel lobby is just as powerful in Europe as it is in the US!
I hope Professor Pappe sees these messages. Sir, you are a model of courage and moral integrity and an oasis of knowledge in a sea of propaganda. Thank you for all your efforts I’m a long time admirer. Free Palestine.
Why does no one ask the question is Israel after the present war going to pay for all the damage to the inferstructer or is the US taxpayers stumping up the cost
Super interview with Ilan Pappe! I learned more about the formation of Zionism. Also heartened to hear his take on how independent media is a serious challenge to legacy media! Quite Excellent!
I have never seen the lovely man smile so much in each explanation as w/this interview! Kudos for bringing us the sweetness of truth with prof. Pappe, Aaron! Fabulous work. Am ordering book asap.
What knowledge. The insight of Lord Montague is incredible. And , Prof Pappe ‘s depth of knowledge is incredible! He must have been bullied for truth telling.
These israeli lobbies need ro be investigated and should be forced to be more transparent. we must know to what extent they have influence over foreign and national policy within our political parties and how much are given to MP.s when they are ineffectually working for the state of israel.
