The JHS PackRat vs. a Pack of Vintage Rats | Tone Report Demo

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Watch along as Josh Scott dives into the history behind his new creation, the PackRat and hear Andy test the new pedal against all the vintage Rats that inspired it.
Order your JHS PackRat here: bit.ly/3k77Nw1
Learn more on Reverb: bit.ly/2ZXaBEQ
Andy's Set-Up:
Amp: Hamstead Artist 60 + 1x12 Cab
Guitars: Reverend Club King 290, Suhr Classic Antique
Recording Gear: Universal Audio Apollo 8 QUAD, UA OX Amp Top Box, de Lisle Amp-Speaker Switcher 4x4 Pro Plus, Royer R-121 Mic
Strings: Stringjoy Signature 10-46
Cables: Evidence Audio SIS, Revelation Guitar Cables
0:00 - Andy's Intro Song
1:14 - Josh Scott Introduces the PackRat
2:33 - OG Mode vs. Original "Big Box" Rat
5:04 - WHT Mode vs. "White Face" Rat
6:29 - TRB Mode vs. Turbo Rat
8:07 - BRAT Mode vs. The Brat
9:25 - DRTY Mode vs. You Dirty Rat
10:52 - LA Mode vs. Ibanez LA Metal
12:42 - GRF vs. Landgraff Mo-D
14:27 - FZ CGC vs. Caroline Guitar Company Wave Cannon
16:14 - JHS Mode vs. JHS Modded Rat
18:02 - Josh Scott Outro

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5 ноя 2021

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@johnathanbarrett7803 2 года назад

It was weird not hearing the "He has the box" jingle in this.

@DrBleepBlip 2 года назад

Almost expected Andy to sound out the tune after he said that

@angelotro 2 года назад

I thought Josh might sing the jingle under his breath, I know I did!

@Aethalops 2 года назад

what? You didn't hear it? I certainly heard it.

@katfishzomby 2 года назад

you know.. it's almost like your'e watching a pre-edit sans jingle.

@objectiveobserver2792 Год назад

in this case, I've got the trap

@devinmoreno9823 2 года назад

I’m honestly floored on how he nailed every single version in this pedal. They literally sound the same. Just wow 😯

@drdre4397 2 года назад

I own a bonsai and from I have seen and tested it's the same story. It's honestly insane. A ts10 cost more than a bonsai and the bonsai has a ts10 and 8 other options. I was so glad I could finally buy a pedal and support the company, I love JHS's videos. He just never talks about his own stuff really.

@drippinglass 2 года назад

I disagree. I own an Ibanez LA Metal. This doesn’t sound anywhere near as shitty as that.

@mikeomatic9905 2 года назад

I was looking away at first, and didn’t even realize he was switching between the original and JHS pedals.

@TechnoVirus 2 года назад

@@drippinglass I get that LA metal didn't sound amazing in the video, but I don't really get your point. The fact that you are getting a (subjectively) better sound with a different guitar amp and cab combination doesn't mean that the PackRat version is worse in any way - you can only compare them if you a/b the pedals using the same setup, like in the video (and in the video the PackRat and the LA Metal sounded pretty much identical). I mean, if you did a/b them and they sounded different - that's a valid point then (I guess. Although it is worth noting that since the packrat hosts so many different variations the knob settings might be slightly different between it and the RATs it is based on)

@kilgoretrout321 2 года назад

It better sound the same, it's all the same circuits crammed in there!

@siavashmassoudi 2 года назад

Andy and Josh is a collaboration I didn’t know I needed

@stormsa-coming4315 2 года назад

Amen.

@jonathan-smith Год назад

I've denied it for so long but I'm a full blown history nerd. And I love some good salesmanship demonstration!

@Supernautiloid 2 года назад

Aw, I was really hoping that Andy was going to be interviewing Josh. :(

@LPMojoGL 2 года назад

Did anybody else sing, "He Has The Box!" when Josh started talking about the Brat?

@JUNKO____ 2 года назад

I love that Josh makes himself available for damn near everything related to his brand and all the cool shit he makes. That's the kind of dude you want at the head of a company in a creative space like guitar effects pedal production. Also, bummed that they didn't take the opportunity with that easy one at 8:40.

@Metempsychopath 2 года назад

HE HAS THE BOX

@jakedibiase7404 2 года назад

Yeah really cool of someone who owns a business to promote a product they sell. It never happens. Lol

@dannyllerenatv8635 2 года назад

@@Metempsychopath But if he doesn't have that pedal, is he gonna survive?

@kodykindhart5644 2 года назад

Jake doesn’t get it does he? Josh literally promotes other companies with his brand

@bluehole6019 2 года назад

@@jakedibiase7404 I’m guessing you’ve never checked out the JHS channel, where almost every video is just Josh talking about how cool other people’s pedals are. He rarely ever promotes his own stuff, and when he does it’s usually really tasteful and understated.

@hellspark 2 года назад

Andy, the encyclopedia of tasty riffs. And Josh, the encyclopedia of pedal knowledge. Even if I'm not planning on buying the pedal, this video is a treat.

@thebreakfastmenu 2 года назад

I like that at the end of his own episode on the pedal he says "actually just go buy a Rat." I think the thing that makes Josh a cool dude is the fact that he has a genuine love for what he does to an extent that he'll endorse the originals over his own versions.

@hazelelcamino7453 2 года назад

The funniest thing would be if the pack rat was just the same circuit inside with slight volume changes and Josh is just trolling us, proving all Rat’s sound the same 😂😂😂😂

@Ottophil 2 года назад

Its like here. We have 9 different flavors of turd

@l8sk8r86 2 года назад

🤣

@fraenkiboii 2 года назад

I opened it up. Only one set of diodes and the rest seems fairly generic, so your theory might be true.

@shckltnebay 2 года назад

@@fraenkiboii Post a video!!!!

@makingmusiconline2309 2 года назад

Didn't you notice that when Andy pressed the 1 or 2 button, that it made no difference? I don't think they even bothered to plug in the second pedal each time, they just lit up a different led :D

@JesseJuup 2 года назад

Hats off! I salute Josh for all the in-depth reseach that he put into this pedal. Just incredible dedication! 👍🤘💪

@RaleighHeckel 2 года назад

Wow, this was great. Want a Pack Rat now of course lol. But really cool hearing Josh walk through the settings and man can Andy play (his “trem picking” with his fingers in LA mode is nuts). Well produced vid too, so awesome content all around. Thanks Reverb and JHS!

@GeneralAdmission_1 2 года назад

I know it would be another multi-year project.. but a blues driver type pedal of this same vain would be extraordinary

@stephenvale937 2 года назад

Are there 9 versions of a blues driver?

@GeneralAdmission_1 2 года назад

@@stephenvale937 that's for Josh to figure out... Lol, idk

@jakedibiase7404 2 года назад

Boss already makes that. Called the Waza Blues Driver.

@GeneralAdmission_1 2 года назад

@@jakedibiase7404 for my money the Keeley modded Blues driver still sounds better

@endezeichengrimm 2 года назад

He already has the angry driver with Boss/JHS.

@yeahrightbear8883 2 года назад

Josh is the coolest guy in the pedal business. He's so chill and he often promotes his competitors pedals as well as his own.

@ruggie.74 Год назад

Spent $300 to get this pedal and I am so happy that I did. Les Paul Standard + Marshall Silver Jubilee + Boss EQ + GRF mode is my dream.

@joermnyc 2 года назад

Would JHS ever do a Benderama of all the different Tone Bender variants?

@BK-lx5mo 2 года назад

The Legends of Fuzz series did a "Bender" using silicon transisters + witchcraft to acheive the original germanium vibe without the usual germanium issues (temperature, supply of parts). So I don't see why not... Josh?

@stephendouglas6106 2 года назад

I Like the "Benderama" Idea a Lot. It would Solve a Lot of Problems. I think that perhaps a "Benderover" might be a Pedal that's Time has Come.

@joermnyc 2 года назад

@@BK-lx5mo yes, and this pack rat does have germanium diodes in the dirty rat setting.

@spacebass79g98 2 года назад

That is the pedal I’m waiting for! Still gonna get this though.🤦🏻‍♂️

@druwk 2 года назад

YES!!!!!!!

@12stringblues 2 года назад

I have been waiting for this pedal since the release of the muffuletta pedal(great pedal), I knew Jhs would eventually make this pedal and it sounds as wonderful as I expected! Thanks Jhs, Josh and Andy.

@stinkystubin Год назад

Josh your pedal kicks ass!!! What else is new? Love your pedals and videos. Keep up the great work.

@TK-fk4po 2 года назад

I’m very impressed with the amount of work that went into design this pedal. It sounds pretty damn complicated. If you ask me it’s an incredibly good deal.

@MonsterVision5000 2 года назад

Thanks Josh! Excellent overview! I have my pack rat and I love it!

@timchalmers1700 2 года назад

So hilarious ... Andy never says a word but says it all with his no pick playing. I can't play like that without a pick, but then, I can't play like that with a pick either.

@coryleblanc 2 года назад

i dont like how it sounds or why he is playing without a pick... he even looks like he's holding a pick but nope... meh

@joermnyc 2 года назад

Andy is a sorcerer and his pick is coming from another universe. 😂

@Pepper-cd9yr 2 года назад

@@coryleblanc Andy is one of the best guitarists on RU-vid stfu

@jaykelley103 2 года назад

@@coryleblanc nice doomer pfp incel lmao

@icecreamforcrowhurst 2 года назад

It’s funny how it looks exactly like he’s holding a pick most of time. I guess he’s using the left tip of his thumb near where the tip of a pick would be. Could be the right tip of his index though.

@alwatsky 2 года назад

I've got an old white face I bought new in 85. I like this PackRat version . Fun stuff. You went deep !

@semajdis 2 года назад

Amazing how much time and effort Mr. Scott put into making this pedal. Now if he put that much time and effort into his slide playing his tone would be as good as Andy's.

@stanislavmigra 2 года назад

Smith?

@semajdis 2 года назад

@@stanislavmigra Brainfart - fixed, thx.

@garybratton7756 2 года назад

Sick burn!

@tompoynton 2 года назад

@@semajdis wurdz is hard

@TheChadPad 2 года назад

Maybe even Rhett Shull's!

@DanHains 2 года назад

Great vid, Andy (and Josh). Packrat is on my list.

@patrickkeenan6331 2 года назад

Collaboration between Josh and Andy? More of this, please!

@dkwha9709 2 года назад

Just got this thing. So glad I did. Hard to find a sound I don’t like. Favourite modes at this point are probably the OG and Wave Cannon. All of em are wicked.

@OnlyElshafto 2 года назад

this was great....i really enjoyed vid guys....great teamwork

@therewasascene 2 года назад

I always liked the packrat mod the most out of all the modern Rat-style pedals. Now for the same price I can get all these REALLY ACCURATE versions too! Love the dirty and the wave cannon, I’m stoked to try the turbo into a dirty amp (thanks, Grape!), and from what I’m hearing, the white can replace my 90’s 2 to make a gig-friendly board. Thank you so much for your hard work, Josh. a lil’ RAT lives on the board, too. Shout out! :)

@ricardosilvestri94 2 года назад

Amazing that he implemented the LA Metal circuit. When I was in a flailing high school punk band in the late '80s, I bought one to "Marshall-ize" my early-sixties Fender Bassman. Of course the pedal sounded terrible in that capacity, but I didn't know any better; as a Fuzz Face unit, it's unbeatable. Yes, I still have both the amp and the pedal!

@josephpickard3108 2 года назад

Sounds amazing. Love that the Turbo Rat is in this too, I thought that was such an unsung Rat. I wonder if Josh will ever get into a pedal beef with a brand and make a pedal that has the other brand's entire range in one box...

@KarzaBarza 2 года назад

It should have been those eyes glowing red.

@lucasgoncalvesdefaria7121 2 года назад

If he is serious on the amount of parts in this maybe it just would not fit?

@JC-11111 2 года назад

There's really no need to keep saying it considering 50k people have already said it. He knows you all think the eyes should've been red. Make your own if that's what you want. This is his pedal. You think that didn't cross his mind? C'mon man. If literally everyone else thought of it, you can bet he did too. If he wanted the eyes red, they would've been red. That'd be the simplest thing on the entire pedal.

@tomkatalenich8811 2 года назад

Well this is thorough. Nice partnership, I'm not gonna hate having more content like this rolling out...

@gonzalozech 2 года назад

Josh might have the best sense of humor of the entire guitar community

@gregmize01 2 года назад

Still the best sounding distortion pedal ever!

@sixstringsofsam 2 года назад

Just got the Pack Rat. It's sick good! Using the OG mode with gain at 9, I can achieve some really chewy sounds. My favourite modes are OG and LA.

@thaddeusfields4360 2 года назад

I love the Brat setting… what’s wrong with me?

@arphod Год назад

I'm on Brat and LA.

@younggoat3521 5 месяцев назад

My fav are turbo and brat

@dimitriosilio3039 2 года назад

Cool demo man!

@locar12 2 года назад

But first, where's Andy's clean tone? Kidding. Great collab video, Josh. This is the single most informative RAT history and spec-packed video today, demonstrated by Andy's skills.

@shinjial 2 года назад

If I wasn’t looking at the switch I wouldn’t know if any changes were made at all. It’s an amazing pedal and JHS did an amazing job with that project.

@schipbreukeling3 2 года назад

It's almost to good to be true

@pCeLobster 2 года назад

Agreed. They're indistinguishable.

@BreadandFaxes Год назад

They're making great strides in breaking that long standing mindset that vintage gear is somewhat special or better. We literally can recreate the circuits wholesale of vintage and expensive pedals and make literally indistinguishable copies. Most guitar gear is like that, honestly. Even modern amplifiers. A point to point wired Deluxe Reverb these days is just as good as the ones of old, if not also all around safer to use.

@shinjial Год назад

@@BreadandFaxes yep, I agree. Sonically there doesn't seem to be relevant differences. I get the reverence for the vintage stuff, and if it satisfies the person to own and play one, by all means do. I think that nice feeling might make people better players just because they get so into it, you know. Really savour the moment.

@Randomly_Ruli 8 месяцев назад

Just bought one off your site. Hoping it’s in the condition it says it is. Super stoked to try it out through my Vox ac30

@notyetskeletal4809 2 года назад

L.A Metal. I had that. Thew it away quite quickly. Love the passion put in this project. Take my money.

@Pete_Harris Год назад

Fantastic! I'd be all over a programmable version of this with saveable settings to presets.

@hulkslayer626 2 года назад

First the Muffaletta. Then the Bonsai. Now the Pack Rat. For just under $600, you can have like 18 amazing overdrives/fuzzes!! Incredible!

@OIP_1 2 года назад

half want to buy one of these just to crack open and gawk at the switching. amazing pedal and perfect demo

@redielg 2 года назад

I was gonna buy a 3 series distortion but I might save a little and go for this instead .

@austinbridge Год назад

Josh is such a successful genius, yet so incredibly down-to-earth and relatable. He has a love for music and every pedal, no matter the price or brand. If it sounds good, it sounds good. Whether it's an Analog Man Sun Face or a Cuvave Fuzz😅

@horrifyinggelatinousblob 2 года назад

HOLY SHIT, some of those are bang on. JHS knows his stuff.

@jimduffy9773 2 года назад

Love JHS! Glad to see this come out.

@ElisandroDeLeon 2 года назад

Josh + Andy is the collaboration we needed

@arphod Год назад

Andy snuck in the chorus riff from Cake - Friend is a Four Letter Word. Well done.

@Fuzzbot71 2 года назад

This pedal is seriously good. I was surprised when I got one and how many of the modes I liked.

@markkirschenmann3925 2 года назад

So crunchy, so hairy, so beautifully brutal! Thank you!

@shamsuranuar4658 2 года назад

We all know that the real OG here is Andy!

@Big_Bag_of_Pus 2 года назад

So many cool new pedals lately. People keep coming up with cool pedals faster than my budget comes up with ways to buy the cool new pedals.

@carlovillacorta1149 2 года назад

Andy's licks are always on point

@davidkieltyka9 2 года назад

5:09 I think Andy’s been listening to Juliana Hatfield’s Only Everything, a great album absolutely soaked in RAT-y guitar tones & textures. 😃

@pulpero666 2 года назад

8:41 "He has the box"

@learnmore2221 2 года назад

Totally heard that in my head!

@rampuga9531 2 года назад

I heard it too.

@jseitam 2 года назад

Yep lol

@Clopezl01 2 года назад

Josh is Great! and with Andy, ufff, nuff said!

@tranquocthinh6933 2 года назад

The intro song is awesome =' )

@AndyDemos 2 года назад

Thanks so much, I really wanted to show all 9 modes in a minute!

@kylegoodman5196 2 года назад

I gotta love how with these catalog type pedals Josh had one for a fuzz circuit, one for an overdrive circuit, and one for a distortion circuit.

@johnmoser2689 2 года назад

Excellent Rat pedal.... nice job I must have it

@papasmamas1 2 года назад

Didnt know about The Brat, sounds great !

@MistyMusicStudio Год назад

Holy crap when Andy switched from the first OG to the packrat, I saw the switch but it didn't register. I kept waiting for it... Like... is the sound gonna change or... OH WAIT :O It sounds unbelievably similar, great job tone matching and clearly Josh is a genius haha

@USBlues 2 года назад

Top mounted jacks for version 2!

@taur611 2 года назад

For a second I thought it was going to be a one- one discussion with the dream team... Josh and Andy.

@thomascrosson8541 2 года назад

Andy’s guitar playing 🤯

@incubism 2 года назад

Amazing!

@ddemulling9722 2 года назад

Good god this pedal sounds killer!

@golf-freq 2 года назад

Kick-ass riffage and content! 😎

@hazelelcamino7453 2 года назад

What I love about this is Josh has been talking trash saying the lm308 doesn’t make a difference. Then, he absolutely delivered and made a pedal that literally sounds no different than the originals. I’m a nerd about this stuff and seriously couldn’t tell the difference. Think this will be my first JHS purchase, job well done.

@jamlemon 2 года назад

8:41 “He has the box” 🎶

@rylieriley Год назад

To my ears (and I do have good ears haha), the PackRat sounds slightly better than the originals in most cases. Awesome job, Josh!

@fluffydelberg 2 года назад

gotta buy these pedal ASAP

@emeraldchan7770 2 года назад

Nice shirt Andy!

@truce11 2 года назад

We need more of Andy with the makers of pedals

@Jimbo386000 Год назад

The filter is slightly different on some of these comparisons, but there is literally no difference between the distortion. This pedal really does it all!

@ArtAlienTV 2 года назад

Incredible engineering feat - hands and brain :)

@billwesley 2 года назад

I read a thing that said the inventor made a mistake on some components value, but liked the resulting sound and so kept the off value, hence the birth of that sound Recognition of the value of an error is the beginning of all creativity.. Other distortions I tried growl with threat but the rat SNARLS with contempt, its awesome. I always wished it had a clean channel so I added a clean channel on the board in parallel with the rat, it really really sounds good that way, like NOBLE sneering contempt, just vicious like a little rat, but huge like a rampaging elephant.

@arnulfoparra9498 2 года назад

Josh , Andy PRICELESS !!!

@byAlexiithonatzu 2 года назад

Thank youuu, i didn't know if i should go for 1981 or proco rat 2, and then this videos pooped in my feed, PackRat will be

@calebriley7466 2 года назад

I realize deep down in my heart that THIS pedal is a vital part to my tone, a sudden urge arises in me to go to my nearest store that’s not so near and buy this right now. And I’m not sure if it’s a good thing or a bad thing…

@AlfredHugecokk 2 года назад

Did you buy it ?

@l8sk8r86 2 года назад

Distortion Pedal Addict here- I need this!

@oqsy 2 года назад

Mine arrived last night. Been playing nonstop! I have a question for the Andy lovers out there. It is my first pedal to suffer from noise from my one-spot. I connected a 9v battery to it with an adapter and it sounds pristine. What power conditioner/etc do you guys suggest to run a single one spot chain an amp, and a seperate power supply for a sugar drive? I can keep doing the external batter hack in the meantime.

@IcyShroomZ 2 года назад

I can see him doing one of those catalog type pedals for all the fuzz face variants and for the klon pedal variants in the future years

@kilgoretrout321 2 года назад

All Klones are the same though. He's demonstrated this, that that the only significant difference of our perception of the sound is caused by looking at the case

@leobautista7162 2 года назад

El mejor crossover de la historia de RU-vid

@thealtered7 2 года назад

Josh Scott is a national treasure.

@CorbCorbin 2 года назад

Anyone know which type of Rat clone the Ibanez SS-10 is?

@MrWilson-WithaPbass 2 года назад

Man ! Andy just rules the universe ! Ladies and Gentlemen ,your new dictator ...Andy . I'm never buying another pedal unless I hear him demo it .

@bradleyshuppert3393 2 года назад

Andy could fall down a flight of stairs and make anything sound great!!!! Damn man!!!

@Alejandro1956 2 года назад

I miss the SOLO RAT version. I would like more about it, and why is not included in this pack

@damiengreen5141 2 года назад

i wish there was like a double barrel version of this where you could use one side as a brat for OD and the other for turbo craziness

@gustavoberocan 2 года назад

The problem of these videos is it not only make me want to buy the pedal but also this reverend guitar and Andy’s pick.

@jsalmons84 2 года назад

Nailed it.

@benmcnamara5572 2 года назад

Want it!

@guitardave 2 года назад

For me I’d love a LM308 Rat, and a Fat Rat in there, but it’s certainly very good as it is.

@philjw3539 Год назад

I got a signed mousetrap as part of the case candy, IMHO it makes it sound better

@thaddeusfields4360 2 года назад

I got one of these for my pedal collection… but I’m pretty certain it’s going on my board.

@timhopkins3810 2 года назад

🎼He’s got the box 🎶

@devinmoreno9823 2 года назад

😂 I swear I heard that too when he showed it. JHS show is the best

@austinfailz Год назад

Just bought one on sale. Kind of wish there was a Fat Rat mode, but then they'd probably have both switches on (where as I prefer the fat off, with the mosfet/germanium clipping on). Bought a Bonzai as well, as my favorite sound is stacking the two with the TS style pedal first as a clean boost (gain low, volume high) into the Rat (gain about 12:00, volume past unity somewhat, Filter between 1:00-2:00). Gives me sort of a Marshall type of sound. Kind of a brown-ish sound.

@austinfailz Год назад

No "He has the box!" bit in the video during the Brat section? Pft. 3/10 video, guys. /s

@jeffbooth1271 Год назад

Josh, love your videos and pedals. That said… my fav RAT was an early 90’s flat box. Made from 1988-1996 I think. Just needed more volume. Why is this version always left out? Clones, etc? I am probs going to get a Pack Rat but am bummed that it doesn’t include my fav (and many 90s indie favorite) RATs as an option. Or is it hidden in another circuit…? Please advise… or can you build a clone with more volume (kinda same with lots of BMP’s… Thanks, Jeff

@Don_of_the_Dad 2 года назад

The JHS Rat, and the Wave Cannon are top tier

@moribnd 2 года назад

Good pedal. White and Dirty are the two best modes for me, but I feel the best pedal would be one with more EQ control (EQ similar to the Metal Zone perhaps) and clipping just like the You Dirty RAT or the White face.