Just walked back to my desk from grabbing a coffee, I'm a security guard, 14hr shifts. To come back to a JBP notification, is everything. Thanks Guys n Mel keep the great Pod episodes coming
@@tdwilliams232 the constant flirting when she knows he has a woman …. Remember the picture she posted with daisy sitting on ish lap … it’s a ton of things
Fun Fact: Yvette Lee Bowser is the creator of Living Single and she said she based Living Single off of Golden Girls. So much so that she says she asked the writers of Golden Girls for their pilot script and she used that script as her template for creating Living Single.
These nyggas get on here hyping cardi b up saying how nice she is how talented she is putting her up against top female emcees knowing she don't write even half the shyt she drop so why hate on Drake doing it he ain't a battle rapper he ain't Royce da 59
They need to let them add the music in the videos, they be jamming out sometimes. Twitch gets cools about music and YT cracks own...we all just want good music with our content, making it a "law" to not play music is weird man
@@londonpain45 lol true. I appreciate his tech side, cause I'm a techy and do some of the stuff he does with his music/phone...but this slobbering off of drake is just nasty.
With the Drake convo…imagine information of your favorite athlete Deion/Lebron/Jordan/ ect… came out that they took PEDs throughout their career. Are they still top tier and brought up in the GOAT convo?
Bruh, this is music. Your favorite rapper brings out music every 3-4 years. Drake is coming every year. And it’s quality… get a life. I’m happy he’s not catering to failed rap careers
People don’t really care. It came out that Lauryn didn’t write Miseducation, you think people cared? We put too much fake stock into this shit. It’s disappointing but it doesn’t stop anything
If all of these references tracks & ghost writers are coming to light, can you question Drake’s pen game? I mean at this point, which song is authentically him? 🤷🏾♂️
What Vivica A. Fox said about where she’s at mentally with dating was so straightforward. I don’t understand why some of the men are trying to analyze the woman’s every word.
They always waiting for an ah hah moment for black women with standards they don't remotely meet... and not even smart enough to see she ain't really drop standards, she just answered the questions lol
Drake cant talk about the time it take real artists to release if he’s using ghostwriters to produce more frequently. Ppl gotta stop moving the goal post.
Exactly. They're acting like he has to drop every year. Real artist take their time to create and curate their artistry. He's out here pushing songs out on a assembly line and it's not even good quality anymore.
Moving the goal posts is what y’all doing when it comes to Drake 🤣 Yall talking shit about Drake and his personal life choices and how he womanizes while listening to artists who glorify womanizing 🤣
@@inoyvst6786 lol, wrong!! no one’s talking about him being a womanizer but what we not gone do is let him call himself the best while using ghostwriters, leeching off real artists and being a fraud. That was a cute but try but try another angle 😂😂.
I am so in love with this show!! Them talking about the time they had in DC made me feel like o was there, it sounds like it was a whole vibe and a time was had!!! Definitely my new fave podcast!
Y'all are missing the point: Drake is beefing with his favorite ghostwriters... It's over for the bars! There will be other hits but "nothing was the same" now has a new meaning
@@djane1006 I'm from Montreal. Toronto is one province ( equivalent of state if you in the US) Away from where I live...none of these "rumors" are new around here.
Yep, daylight came out, I’m pretty sure BEAM hit up Kendrick, Quinton been came out, Vory came out, and these aren’t even “ghost” writers. Imagine the real 👻
Drake didn’t provide a time stamp record during the battle because the ghost writer that wrote those probably don’t work for him anymore. Drake is not working writing those records himself. He puts out so many albums because he has writers on OVO payroll.
Well we know that is not a fact! We however know it’s a fact that a security guard is on video talking about the fact that she had to rescue a call girl after KRNDRICK LAMAR BEAT HET SO BAD IN HIS HOTEL ROOM. Kendrick Lamar is a WOMAN ABUSER!. No wonder they call him a MINI DIDDY
If the majority of Drakes fans are pop fans and (you all agreed) then why do yall keep calling him a rapper or an MC? He's a beige Taylor Swift and we need to just quit talking about him altogether. Let Rolling Stone cover him and leave it at that.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76here you go hating on ever drake video 😂😂😂😂 didn’t I just roast you on Mals shit, you wake up everyday with Drizzy on your mind lmao get a job my guy
51:22 all Drake has is flow, bro is truly an actor. The lyrics are azz. Ice, Flip and Ish are terrible at judging music. Along with most of the people who like Drake.
@@0000bnkWho dafuq is "we"? I still like the music Drake produces, but I don't think of him as an elite pen. I think his pen will always be questionable, but I give him props for giving artists their credit.
Drake has only 4-5 albums that’s solid. I’m not a Drake fan once I understood he isn’t really an artist. He’s a business concept for hip hop. Not surprised how he bites off other ppl. Cough cough Kirko Bangz. BBL Drizzy is a business concept, he’s a brand. No ties no emotions no signature. He’s a business. You want an artist who’s really an artist with emotions and all of that look somewhere else.
It’s ridiculous. They talmbout he not gonna care cause he not catering to hip hop anymore if that’s the case, why he still doing records and tours with 21 SAVAGE? Why he still doing records with J.Cole? Tell him to stop collaboring with hip hop if he truly doesn’t gaf 😂
The writing matters just like the flow does, Drake is described in a rapper category and that's why he's picked at. We can't put Drake in convo with Jay z, Biggie, Pac, Nas, Kenny, Cole etc. He's in a group with Diddy, Timbo, Ye etc. but not really because he doesn't do that completely either. He's some what manufactured. He can rap probably but if left on his own... Who knows what his grouping would be.
2:34:42 Joe refuses to grow up and have or listen to adult conversations. 2:40:04 Joe asked Mel to talk about Vivica. She talks about Vivica then gets told to relax and that she's triggered.
They were trying to be smart asses about the Vivica situation. It is not near impossible for Vivica to find an age appropriate mate who still wants to have fun, travel and spoil her a bit. Fly women in her age range have always had suitors. These dudes think Granny just languished after Pop Pop passed? Naw, I’ve seen these women have a friend (or multiple) that treated her well. The perspective of Ice, Joe and Ish is flawed because truthfully they are three old fuckboys who have sordid histories (and presents) with women. It seems like they were intentionally trying to trigger Mel.
There’s no such thing as industry plants. People come in the game and if the consumers like you, then you succeed. Plenty of people that “should” work never work out. There’s no formula, the consumers have to gravitate to you
@@JamesBraggs-w1w right. Wiz explained it before. The label doesn’t know how to make the spark. The artists/individuals make the spark, the label amplifies it, but the label themselves cannot create the spark. If they could then we’d never have a lot of people that we have
@@axa5005 ah clearly it’s your first day on the internet. Well this is RU-vid comments so anyone is allowed to reply to that dumb ass question that was answered and talked about for 15 mins. You probably a Mel fan
Drake has more in common with Lil Dicky than he does Lil Baby. The reason Dicky doesn't get that kinda smoke is because he's honest about his life experience and he can rhyme without the whole writing room of Empire in his pocket. Hip-hop ain't just your delivery it's your pen. You can still be down if you're not writing but don't be fake and don't call yourself the greatest MC of all time. Cardi got ghostwriters, too, but nobody comes for her because she ain't lying about it.
Ish got back from a Pod off, and just stole "Podder Of The Month" for the month of May‼️💯 His explanation of "G-Card" was Hilariously Accurate and his G-Card is Definitely Stamped & Certified 🤨 LMAO 🤣
Never seen a rapper get shot so much bail. If all these records come out why can’t we question if he writes anything? Yes this should change how he is viewed.
@@regalsylvester I believe he writes but to what extent is what comes to question with each new reference track. But I also don’t want to hear you are the greatest in your raps and on the shop nodding and grinning like you like Mob Ties I did that.
@@andredmoss tbh when he was on the shop his body language wasn’t “yea i did that”. It was more like “im glad you like it” he didn’t own it. It’s like he’s happy they liked it but he knew he couldn’t brag about that record the same way as if he was in his bag. And tbh that record hurts cus i really love that one. It’s still good but it’s like maaan, i wish u did this one yourself.
@regalsylvester he DOESN'T WRITE, dude. He's 100% out of the GOAT MC CONVO. No matter how much you raise the goal post, the DAMGE IS DONE. Not while Nas, Kendrick, Jay-Z, Royce, Eminem, LUPE, Crooked eye, School Boy, JCOLE and the such are alive. Drake will NEVER be mentioned among the greats. That's what matters the most to him, and that train has PASSED
Drake cannot put “pen to pad.” Can you be the best soccer player with no feet ? Then you can’t be “one of the best rappers” and can’t write. His whole catalog is in question. Dot proved he can’t stand next to or even close to the elite.
To say this does not effect Drake at all, as Ice claims, is not opinion it is demonstrably false. You cannot be named a top 5 rapper and 4 rappers write their own lyrics, learn the beat, create the cadance, formulate a style and one rapper every single part of creating a rap song from cadance, style and lyrics were handed to you. You have forfitted your title as a rapper, a lyricist in the catergory of rap. It is like entering a lawn judgement contest and 5 contestant procured their own lawn, 1 hired a lawn service, and hirer wins the money and title. If you want to say Drake is a great artist, pop star, I cannot refute that but to say it does nothing to his rap credentials, miss me with that.
Let me put it this way. If Drake was really the best lyricist in the game, he wouldn't even want ghostwriters. What could they even offer him that he couldn't do better by himself?
@@whym6438 Writing takes effort and time so I get the appeal. The issue to me is he's been jacking songs since his 2nd album so how far back and how much has he been taking other people's songs. Also constantly jacking songs and flows is going to make his pen lazy and weak, if it wasn't already.
