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The JWs New JESUS Drama Shows Jehovah IS NOT Leading This Religion - Friday AM 

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@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim
@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim 3 месяца назад
It 's Christ, Jim...but not as we know Him..🤭 The Photo drama of Jezus...😂 The most culty part of this movie: Joseph having family worship with Jesus and his sibblings, even raising hands!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mr.d.c.1914.1
@mr.d.c.1914.1 3 месяца назад
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
Bad acting, fake beards, terrible editing -- hallmarks of Watchtower multi-billion worth studios.
@peterevans884
@peterevans884 3 месяца назад
Where did Adam get hair gel and a comb from ?
@annabizaro-doo-dah
@annabizaro-doo-dah 3 месяца назад
Brylcream😂
@kevinmorgan8534
@kevinmorgan8534 3 месяца назад
And a stylist.
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
BTW, I have always wondered why a lot of people prefer to compare dozens of translations instead of simply learning Koine Greek and read the original. It's not that hard, especially when you consider that your goal is to read and understand, not to be a fluent active speaker. And there are textbooks dedicated particularly to learning biblical Koine Greek.
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
It blows my mind to see people still trying to figure out what the text is trying to say by consulting Strongs. JWs are far from the only ones being that lazy.
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 3 месяца назад
a) What original? We have multiple manuscripts, all later copies, but they don't all say the same thing. So translators have to evaluate the balance of the evidence - is this manuscript older? there are more copies of version x - but was that because in place A more money for copying and good environment for preservation; or because it was considered more authentic?; b) I can learn enough to read a language at a surface level, but won't know it enough to recognise the puns and double meanings, the levels that those who have studied the language for decades can see and explain to us; c) Understanding something written centuries ago is not just a different language but a different context. Think of English today - someone could describe another as a Karen and the meaning would be understood. Give it a couple of centuries and readers will wonder what a karen was; maybe by then no one used it as a name, in context it is clearly used as a noun, but what was this thing? I fully support getting to know Hebrew and Greek as used in the Bible, and all knowledge helps - but that doesn't mean dismissing the work of existing translators. Comparing where and how they are different shows us where words could be read in different ways, or where there is a difference in manuscripts.
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
Checking up in a dictionary is still way better, but far from perfect. For instance "logos" literally means "word", but if you translate it like "In the beginning there was the word" you're ignoring the fact that "logos" in the Greek and Jewish (like Philo of Alexandria) thought was the mind of the world, because "word" simply does not mean that in English. In my opinion it's simply falsifying the meaning of the text. It is reasonable that Muslims don't think that translations of the Quran are Quran.
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
@@helenr4300 a) is not a real problem, there are two main streams of the NT manuscripts, Byzantine and Alexandrian, and they're not much different, and you have serious critical editions, like the Nestle-Aland. b) c) isn't it obvious that learning a language involves learning puns, double meanings, idioms, sayings and cultural context? The point is that there's no way to convey that in a translation, "logos" is just the tip of an iceberg, English "sin" is nowhere related to deprivation, failure and missing the mark (as in sports) as the Greek "hamartema" is, and so on. That's THE reason sacred languages exist and that's THE reason they're still used in multiple completely unrelated cultures.
@annabizaro-doo-dah
@annabizaro-doo-dah 3 месяца назад
Good point. Especially as most of us speak languages with many greek loan words. English is meant to have 150,000 (via vulgar Latin and french for instance)
@EmilySolem-Davis
@EmilySolem-Davis 3 месяца назад
The drama was so dull. The hype was all for nothing.
@Christen-ed2qj
@Christen-ed2qj 3 месяца назад
really bad acting also
@fuzzyh1ghland3r28
@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 3 месяца назад
I mean did you expect anything less lol
@EmilySolem-Davis
@EmilySolem-Davis 3 месяца назад
@@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 not really.
@CdnPIMO
@CdnPIMO 3 месяца назад
@@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 You get what you pay for...untrained free labor from people with very little education except the bare minimum to graduate grade 12 VERSUS people who were likely in drama class and received post-secondary education on acting and have been acting for years honing their skills to the point that they qualify as paid actors....lol the difference is quite evident. This is the price the WT must pay for keeping everyone on the WT devotion hamster wheel.
@koolmexi
@koolmexi Месяц назад
May I ask, why do you still go?
@andracadicecrawford4256
@andracadicecrawford4256 3 месяца назад
IT SYMBOLICALLY SAYING....IF YOU ASK THE GB ANY QUESTIONS ....YOU WILL BE SILENCED BY BEING KICKED OUT...SOOOO DONT QUESTION!
@ldawai105
@ldawai105 3 месяца назад
The Snake was a paid actor lmaoooo
@annabizaro-doo-dah
@annabizaro-doo-dah 3 месяца назад
Explains why it was filmed in Australia....they've got the best snake actors😂
@Ok_Bud007
@Ok_Bud007 3 месяца назад
I was nodding off the entire time during the drama. Usually dramas are at least somewhat interesting enough to keep you awake but there were soooooo many unnecessary scenes that dragged on for no reason.
@Ok_Bud007
@Ok_Bud007 3 месяца назад
It felt like they were trying to build suspense and anticipation for a story that EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS
@KsThe20
@KsThe20 3 месяца назад
Why does everybody have a problem with the angel being Australian, though? I understand the problem with him being a boring white old dude, but how is an Australian angel worse than American, for example? (I'm not a native English speaker, I'm genuinely curious)
@annabizaro-doo-dah
@annabizaro-doo-dah 3 месяца назад
The whole thing was filmed in Australia, hence the Aussie narrator. The question is why shouldn't he be a white Australian? I think Caleb has drunk to much wokery this morning.
@mimid.6675
@mimid.6675 3 месяца назад
I wondered the same too..English is not my first language...we always had American English and accents in the dramas acted in our conventions and it was ridiculous . Americans think that their English, accent is the standard or correct English language.
@txzombie8282
@txzombie8282 3 месяца назад
Yep. I love STILL how ALL the representations of Angels & Biblical characters are which in origin should be there somewhere around "The Holy Land" & all those other Aladdin countries & whatnot are STILL portrayed by the whitest dudes they can find. Wether they are Australian or from England or New Zealand whatever they still have to show these Middle Eastern Biblical characters as white. But.............. But they're (the true organization) supposed to be Sooooooo different from the rest of the world but still seem to follow the same direction of the rest of the world in such practices like casting a good majority of actors which hapoen to be white to represent people which are supposed to be of Middle Eastern descent. Like they couldn't find any other ethnicities more similar to those of which they are portraying? They claim to be a worldwide brotherhood but they can't find any other brothers & sisters closer to Middle Eastern descent to at least somewhat accurately portray these Biblical characters? Nope! Just white, white, white & oh yeah WHITE! Just like the governing body....... Oh, except for their token member. I guess when it pertains to the governing body & whom god chooses to speak & give guidance & direction to he goes about it choosing Anglos only (again, with the exception of their token member) & somehow they reside here in America but not in other parts of the world. I guess places like Africa, China, Russia, India, Turkey, Mexico, Brazil, Korea, basically anywhere they claim to have branches at, I guess there are no persons qualified to be additional members of that little super group over there in New York huh?...... At least they made the smart move to include one non white token in there. Ya gotta have at least one so as not to draw doubts & raise suspicion or else it kinda starts to look a certain kind of way if ya know what I mean. Ya gotta have one token in there to fool em! Then you can claim equality & real brotherhood. Oops! I mean "TRUE" equality & brotherhood that's "different & unique" from the rest of the world. During those clips I thought someone was gunna say, "G'day mate!" Or, "Crikey!!" (In Steve Irwin's voice)
@tedlee594
@tedlee594 3 месяца назад
Always 2 there is: A master and a slave....I mean apprentice.😅😅
@txzombie8282
@txzombie8282 3 месяца назад
@tedlee594 See what you did there I see! Lol 😄
@Christen-ed2qj
@Christen-ed2qj 3 месяца назад
Why is Mary bowing down... this is NOT in the BIBLE!!!
@shiningskies47
@shiningskies47 3 месяца назад
i can only imagine adam and eve looking like the characters from Lucifer. adam being a maga dad and eve being a party girl
@TallKulWmn1
@TallKulWmn1 3 месяца назад
Maybe they we’re building suspense about wether Adam would take the mangapple or not 🤣🥴
@rustanddust5524
@rustanddust5524 3 месяца назад
7:29 I hadn’t considered that Eve had already eaten of the fruit first and her eyes weren’t opened to good and evil. She must’ve had that delayed release sin dosage.
@benfox1462
@benfox1462 3 месяца назад
I love how Adam's hair was perfectly combed and trimmed up beard🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eduardobenitez4584
@eduardobenitez4584 11 дней назад
Because it's a movie, Obviously they had to comb it, BTW have you seen how Jehovah's Witnesses represent Jesus?
@calloganvoyaterre
@calloganvoyaterre 3 месяца назад
Adam looked stoned. Small wonder he took the mangopple. Dude had the munchies but had to figure it out, first.
@simona_ab
@simona_ab 3 месяца назад
7:00 so the forbidden fruit was a type of mango. Can't exactly put my finger on what type, because they are thousands of them and I'm European, but looks like a thai one. And the serpent was a cute little opheodrys estivus, appearantly. (Sorry, it's my asperger kicking in big time😂😂😂)
@ldawai105
@ldawai105 3 месяца назад
hahahahahaha dammit its a Thai One hahahahahaha Your comment is GOLD
@tiffany_jones_art
@tiffany_jones_art 2 месяца назад
Like this if you were raised as a JW and appreciate seeing the whole grift being exposed
@annabizaro-doo-dah
@annabizaro-doo-dah 3 месяца назад
NB. I think the angel Gabriel is an Aussie because the whole thing is filmed in Australia. (Hence the Aussie narrator, too)
@geoffreybunting9837
@geoffreybunting9837 3 месяца назад
At 12.39 I hate to be pedantic (or do I?), but Luke wasn't one of Jesus' twelve Apostles
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
He kinda muffed it. JWs don't think Luke was an apostle of course but JWs sometimes seem to imply that Luke witnessed a lot of Jesus' life.
@Lee-Darin
@Lee-Darin Месяц назад
No Luke was a traveling companion of the Apostle Paul. Luke probably was getting all the eyewitness testimonies while Paul was imprisoned in Caesarea for two years before he was transferred to Rome. Luke wrote both the Gospel of Luke and the Book of Acts.
@geoffreybunting9837
@geoffreybunting9837 Месяц назад
@Lee-Darin The book of Luke was attributed to Luke in the fourth century, so too, the book of Acts. Acts claimed to be written by a travelling companion of Paul during his missionary tours, but the author doesn't say who he is. May I recommend a book by Bart D Ehrman entitled, "Forged"? It's a very interesting book
@rickwilkerson3865
@rickwilkerson3865 3 месяца назад
4:29 They leaped billions of years and forgot the 🦕 say it isn’t so? 🦖 🙀😸
@paulamccomb7481
@paulamccomb7481 3 месяца назад
Is this not an output so that the masses dont realise the money is realing going to CSA cases?
@jeffpeff
@jeffpeff 3 месяца назад
The Chosen isn’t 100% accurate either, but it’s waaaaaay better than Watchtower’s lackluster waste of time.
@mr.d.c.1914.1
@mr.d.c.1914.1 3 месяца назад
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
23:50 Mary looks so much like she wants to say "yeah bro!*
@leogolive
@leogolive 3 месяца назад
24:02 I thought you weren't supposed to bow down to angels?
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
The Bible has no idea what it means to bow or worship and to whom. You can find dozens of times that it all conflicts. I like Dan mclellan's take, that they all were worshipping anything that "bore the name of YHWH" and that could mean anybody. Lots of God's to choose from.
@Scott48-m7e
@Scott48-m7e 3 месяца назад
An angel creates life Genesis 16:10
@chrisarsenaux
@chrisarsenaux 3 месяца назад
I think they had enough material for 5 episodes and the GB demanded the stretch it to 12
@DarcyTheManstop
@DarcyTheManstop 3 месяца назад
Jehovas witness trying to make a the chosen copy
@laymanphil8513
@laymanphil8513 3 месяца назад
There is no talent in making JW videos because talent is banned from the Watchtower. And to think that all the great literary works, the great filmmakers, the great sportsmen, the great musicians, painters, composers, sculptors and so many other artists will no longer have their place in the future Orwellian paradise of the Watchtower. All the romance of life will no longer exist. No more poignant novels, no more detective films, no more fantastic music, this life without challenges will seem very dull. Anything that crosses the Jehovist Party line will be cut off. Group uniformity will take precedence over all other individual considerations. Could a film without villain, without plot, without romance, without thrills, without heroism, without stakes still exalt and stimulate the mind? The Watchtower paradise will ultimately be very bland, composed of friendly zombies with anemic minds who will only garden, play ball, build cabins or pet pandas while the zombie women prepare the meal for eternity. . A real nightmare that will repeat itself day after day.
@Lee-Darin
@Lee-Darin Месяц назад
Can you please show the whole video with your editing to keep the pace?
@tarheelmama
@tarheelmama 3 месяца назад
Lie in the opening. JW's lie, lie, lie to make their cult work.
@jamese7060
@jamese7060 3 месяца назад
It's like double spacing an essay lol
@molybdomancer195
@molybdomancer195 3 месяца назад
The guy portraying Adam in the drama has clearly been to the Helena Bonham-Carter school of eyebrow acting
@andracadicecrawford4256
@andracadicecrawford4256 3 месяца назад
IT SEEMS EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IN HEAVEN IS CAUCASIAN HUH?
@danielecolla5767
@danielecolla5767 3 месяца назад
I was exactly the same The angel is a member of the go erning body: You fid not believe th gb so you srr shunned until the y allow hi. Yo come back. When repentant. I great example of shunning.
@ingramwright5399
@ingramwright5399 3 месяца назад
It's always a good idea to proof read your work before pressing that button.
@shiningskies47
@shiningskies47 3 месяца назад
getting drunk is a sin silly JW
@StephenElms-x1h
@StephenElms-x1h 3 месяца назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@StephenElms-x1h
@StephenElms-x1h 3 месяца назад
​@@shiningskies47you're absolutely right 😂😂😂 humans are awsome
@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim
@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim 3 месяца назад
Danke!
@UsualOxym
@UsualOxym 3 месяца назад
-At first I was skeptical whether your editing will be better. But you were able hide some of bad acting (which I start to believe is directed to be this way). Maybe their whole point was that it must be looong.- I bet that at each new episode they'll be adding recaps of what happened previously Edit: I didn't anticipated that commenting before watching to the end will end up with almost all of my comments being said.
@ExJWCaleb
@ExJWCaleb 3 месяца назад
I mean idk if it was better but it was shorter so it's gotta be a good thing 😅
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
14:15 When Christianity started there were NO written gospels, they only start to appear around the year 170 AD, as an attempt by the proto-orthodoxy to counter Marcionism. What was in the early Christianity was Christian interpretation of the Scriptures that later started to be called "Old Testament". That's one of the reasons the protestant idea of "sola scriptura" is anachronistic, ahistorical nonsense.
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
And there was no codification of the OT at that time afaik. I agree that sola scriptura is ridiculous as a matter of faith. And the actual practice of it and "what it means or how it is you get saved" is nowhere in the Bible as told by st Paul or Jesus himself, it's a very modern invention.
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
@@cygnustsp There was no canon of the Old Testament, right.
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
@@Trabantoslaw the Jews have settled it and even then there were groups who disagreed. Certainly the early Christians were familiar with much of the OT but they sure seemed to ignore a heck of a lot of it and of course Paul completely abandoned the Jewish view of the Messiah
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
@@cygnustsp There was no single Jewish view of the Messiah, some Jewish books did not make it into the Jewish-Pharisaic canon (not only the Maccabees, also the likes of 2nd Enoch), in general the process of establishing the Jewish canon is poorly understood. Around the time of Jesus there were literally dozens of Jewish sects, streams of religious thought and political cliques agreeing very vaguely, somewhat like in modern Hinduism.
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
@@cygnustsp I think Pauline Christianity originated as one of the answers to a very serious problem: what to do when the Temple is destroyed and there's no way to atone for sins, achieve purity and so on? Pharisees decided to "build a fence around the law" and wait forever until the Messiah rebuilds the Temple, Christians decided that they don't need the Temple anymore because Jesus did the job.
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
No, teenagers marrying is completely normal in all cultures, it's just that in the recent ~100 years the west has artificially extended childhood as a counter-reaction to children being forced to work during the Industrial Revolution.
@ExJWCaleb
@ExJWCaleb 3 месяца назад
Yeah you're not gonna convince me that teenagers are supposed to get married
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
​@@ExJWCalebI dont think that was his point. Teens getting married 100 years ago wasn't a big deal because they had already grown up. They knew how to talk, listen, work, apply themselves. They do not in this day and age and I would agree teens getting married in 2024 is an incredibly bad idea especially if you add in the religious cult factor.
@shiningskies47
@shiningskies47 3 месяца назад
check his hard drive.
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
@@cygnustsp It's the other way around, if you don't take responsibility, you'll always be immature. We all know many immature 30-40 year olds.
@Trabantoslaw
@Trabantoslaw 3 месяца назад
@@shiningskies47 Your avatar makes you infinitely more suspect than I'll ever be.
@DavidHumeGoat
@DavidHumeGoat 3 месяца назад
I want Obi-Wan as a force ghost not that angel.
@nhatphutruong9568
@nhatphutruong9568 3 месяца назад
Part 1 , where ?
@BlackHoleOfTime
@BlackHoleOfTime 3 месяца назад
You do realize at a time without modern medication women would need to start having kids as soon as possible to keep the nations growing 50% of kids died as well as women not being able to produce strong children after 30..
@annabizaro-doo-dah
@annabizaro-doo-dah 3 месяца назад
Yes obstetricians have started worrying about older mothers producing unhealthy babies. We've spent so long being judgemental of young mother's we now have the opposite problem with older mums (I was a 39 year old mother so I know of what I speak lol)
@mathlets5046
@mathlets5046 3 месяца назад
Luke wasn‘t an apostle of Jesus. Great video anyway.
@jeffnoble9757
@jeffnoble9757 3 месяца назад
John 1 says the word was WITH God, verse 2 again says the word was WITH God, so it's a contradiction statement how can you be WITH God and be God and be WITH God again.
@ExJWCaleb
@ExJWCaleb 3 месяца назад
Good question! That's where the trinity comes from. Makes more sense than adding words onto the Bible.
@jeffnoble9757
@jeffnoble9757 3 месяца назад
@@ExJWCaleb WHAT your answer makes no sense, and I strongly doubt that you're an xJW, lying and exaggerating is common on the internet, and you fit right in
@ExJWCaleb
@ExJWCaleb 3 месяца назад
Where did I lie?
@jeffnoble9757
@jeffnoble9757 3 месяца назад
I noticed that you left conveniently the word exaggerating out of your question, I'll repeat my comment I strongly doubt that you're an exJW who is now pushing the silly trinity, the word trinity is not in the Bible it's an invention of the Catholic Church, and John 1 does not prove the trinity it only talks about two things the word(Jesus) being WITH God(Jehovah) and the Holy Spirit which has NO name is not mentioned at all in John 1. And exaggerating is in fact lying
@yahuhallah1259
@yahuhallah1259 3 месяца назад
@@ExJWCalebThe Trinity comes from John 1:1? 😂 By that comment it’s evident you don’t even know what the Trinity is in order to defend it. Tell me, where is the holy spirt in John 1:1 because I see 2 deities mentioned, yes 2 deities not 2 persons of deity, so explain how does the trinity come from John 1:1? Your explanation is going to be good 😂😂😂😂
@rue1868
@rue1868 10 дней назад
wait and see when the Indian version comes out.
@Lee-Darin
@Lee-Darin Месяц назад
Watch the Jesus film by The Genesis Project. With the exception of the Roman soldier costumes in that film, was pretty accurate and well aged.
@heatherwillson4862
@heatherwillson4862 3 месяца назад
Good points. I even got a good laugh!
@colinmelton3815
@colinmelton3815 3 месяца назад
This Video is criminally boring. In this our year of the lord 2024 it's not gonna fly when there are many actually interesting versions of the Jesus legend
@manueloliveira8062
@manueloliveira8062 3 месяца назад
One account of jesus when he was 12 then 18 missing years then 3 years of miracles magic and promises of salvation none of which written by the son of god. Gospels written edited and changed over 2000 years and then finally re-translated by the faithfully & descreet. If only Eve hadn't eaten the apple we would all be in heaven living in eternal bliss
@lordlucablight
@lordlucablight 3 месяца назад
Hey Caleb. I think the JWs are intellectually dishonest nearly all the time but regarding John 1:1 they aren’t completely wrong. From what I heard from Dan McClellan who is a very reputable Bible scholar the translation is closer to something like “and the word was deity” rather than the word was God. Also the Bible doesn’t say anything about Jesus being God so they’re actually correct on this doctrine. The trinity is a post biblical invention. Happy to call out this cult any time but we need to be intellectually honest as well and not make misleading claims. Happy to provide any sources if you want to do any further research on this. Keep up the great work!
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 3 месяца назад
Christ in HIS own words by His prophet Isaiah... Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and the Last; Besides Me there is no God." 44:6 Christ has identified Himself using these names and titles: LORD. King of Israel. Redeemer. LORD of hosts. First and Last. God. The deity of Christ is the cornerstone of Christianity, as supported by scripture.
@lordlucablight
@lordlucablight 3 месяца назад
You’re just preaching to me and negotiating the text to justify your dogmas (no different to the JWs). You’re free to believe that if you want to. I’m looking at the text from an academic perspective.
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 3 месяца назад
@@lordlucablight From an "academic perspective" you should be able to identify the one speaking in the text.
@lordlucablight
@lordlucablight 3 месяца назад
@@mattmurdock2868Well you obviously don’t know how to considering how you’re baselessly asserting that the writer of Isaiah is speaking the words of Jesus. This is just a dogma that you’re inserting into the text rather than letting it speak on its own terms.
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 3 месяца назад
@@lordlucablight It it Christ who speaks by His prophet Isaiah...hundreds of years before He came in flesh as the Man Jesus, it's very clear.
@danielecolla5767
@danielecolla5767 3 месяца назад
Is that a.pear instead of an apple? JW have to be different the Bible says fruit tradition says apple. Weird. Hey strangely only Adam ate the fruit not the woman. Eve only gives to Adam to eat. If anyone does mot know the story will find this really strange
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
Because if Adam didn't eat then god would've gotten him a new Eve. Just like JWs teach that the Messiah didn't have to be Jesus, it could've been anybody as long as it was a perfect man, but God chose his son cause reasons. The people didn't matter, just as long as it got done. Just like their attitude, god doesn't need us, he could use the stones to cry out, how fortunate and happy we are that God chose us to do all this ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.
@thuggie1
@thuggie1 3 месяца назад
well under the interpretation of halacha at the time Joseph would have been within the same age range also at that time according to a few rulings it was more customary for them to wat till puberty passed. the only reference that she wat a child is a medieval manuscript trying to paint the idea of the virgin Mary trope even the Vatican admits that is medieval apocryphal work. also Jesus was the eldest and he had brothers and sisters which is fully accepted by real Christian scholars along with the tradition placing Mary around the age of 17 at the time of the birth of Jesus.
@1962diamond
@1962diamond 3 месяца назад
ok, they should out source their video production!!! lack of higher education shows !!! LOL
@scottpeterson7500
@scottpeterson7500 3 месяца назад
Watching the story of Adam & Eve, there is absolutely no way any form of fundamentalist Christianity is true.
@WrightvWrong
@WrightvWrong 3 месяца назад
Jesus is the firstborn of creation...
@ericbulman1752
@ericbulman1752 3 месяца назад
Firstborn does not mean first created . For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth
@yahuhallah1259
@yahuhallah1259 3 месяца назад
@@ericbulman1752 It’s hilarious people like you just skip Colossians 1:15 and dive in right into 16 and 17. First Jesus is not God but the image of God and second Paul tells is he’s the firstborn of all creation. The form “the firstborn of” always means part of the group of the context and this case Jesus is part of creation and then in verse 16 and 17 God used Jesus to create that’s why creation is NOT FROM Jesus, but IN HIM and THROUGH HIM. Jesus was used as an intermediary agent for creation.
@Scott48-m7e
@Scott48-m7e 3 месяца назад
@@yahuhallah1259 Jesus became the firstborn positionally
@yahuhallah1259
@yahuhallah1259 3 месяца назад
@@Scott48-m7e it doesn’t say Jesus was placed firstborn like David . it says “He *IS* the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation”
@Scott48-m7e
@Scott48-m7e 3 месяца назад
@@yahuhallah1259 he might be the firstborn among many brethren Romans 8:29 KJV Psalm 89:27 KJV
@kamalionify
@kamalionify 3 месяца назад
Aint nobody gonna talk about how friggin more PAINFUL giving birth as a VIRGIN must be!? Rupturing the hymen and everything at once, it's basically going from 0 to 100000 😣 NOPE NOPE NNNOPE
@CdnPIMO
@CdnPIMO 3 месяца назад
Maybe the angel took care of all of that when he had his way with Mary lol. Meanwhile, It was just some homeless dude in a white sheet saying he was the angel going to impregnate her ha ha jk
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
​@@CdnPIMOdon't the Catholics say Jesus wasn't born through the birth canal miraculously somehow?
@michellebernal5668
@michellebernal5668 3 месяца назад
Catholics believe in the immaculate conception, meaning Mary was saved from original sin therefore didn’t have labor pains that women inherited from Eve
@CdnPIMO
@CdnPIMO 3 месяца назад
@@cygnustsp Not sure. What do they claim, that it was some kind of holy c-section then?? haha
@Lee-Darin
@Lee-Darin Месяц назад
What would be great is if they can remove the dialog and replace it with a narrator who is just reading the Bible ANY Bible other than the New World Translation.
@Radrook353
@Radrook353 2 месяца назад
1808: “and the word was a god.” The New Testament in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text. 1864: “and a god was the word.” The Emphatic Diaglott, interlinear reading, by Benjamin Wilson. 1928: “and the Word was a divine being.” La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel. 1935: “and the Word was divine.” The Bible-An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed. 1946: “and of a divine kind was the Word.” Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme. 1958: “and the Word was a God.” The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek. 1975: “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz. 1976: “and he was the same as God.” Today’s English Version 1978: “and godlike kind was the Logos.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.
@ExJWCaleb
@ExJWCaleb 2 месяца назад
Which one of those is still considered trustworthy and used today? Btw you quoted one that says what you don't want it to say.
@SoshiSSx
@SoshiSSx 2 месяца назад
@@ExJWCaleb Trust worthy by who's standards? I am by no way defending but there are many different versions of this exact quote in many different bibles. SO who mandates which one is more trust worthy then the other?
@the3danimationdude770
@the3danimationdude770 3 месяца назад
Well finally they accept a bit of the real truth about them although they are still using reverse psychology for try to make it not be so noticeable but if you're smart enough you can easily notice the contradiction
@jeffpeff
@jeffpeff 3 месяца назад
How come Gabriel sounds an awful lot like Geoffrey Jackson?
@rustanddust5524
@rustanddust5524 3 месяца назад
Jerhover
@timothyflynn1927
@timothyflynn1927 3 месяца назад
Dude Luke was not an original diciple....he was a companion of paul
@RitzRed
@RitzRed 3 месяца назад
The word ”Elohim” means Gods,it’s plural… There were many Gods on earth,that lived here on earth… They lived in Cities married to women and they also had children ”Nephilim”… The cities were huge with buildings that,reach high up in the sky… Let us create the humans… God said to his son Yeshua which is the firstborn… So Yeshua is a God too,among many Gods…
@shiningskies47
@shiningskies47 3 месяца назад
it’s crazy how many christians think the bible is monotheistic
@davebruce88
@davebruce88 3 месяца назад
The flashing of this video is killing me. I'm out. Sorry
@All_Things_Made_New
@All_Things_Made_New 3 месяца назад
And the WORD WAS GOD! Not a god
@TheWadetube
@TheWadetube 3 месяца назад
THe Word was WITH God, not God... and verse 2 also says that "He was in the beginning WITH God" and verse 3 and all things were created THROUGH him.... not BY him Jesus was created BY Jehovah, not through Jehovah. After God had his son with him in the beginning he used his son to create everything after that. So Jesus was a God in the sense that all other life and objects were brought into existence THROUGH him,... not BY him. He was Given designs and GIVEN holy spirit and GIVEN supreme knowledge of how to do this as he was not eternal like Jehovah. If you don't believe this read John 17:3 where he calls his father "The ONLY true God."
@CdnPIMO
@CdnPIMO 3 месяца назад
An interesting research project that I did was looking up the origin of YHWH and its earliest usages. Wikipedia shows that HWH was an invention of the Canaanites. EL gave birth to YHWH and Baal. Other things you can look into is that Christianity came out of Judaism, and Judaism Developed from Zoroastrianism, And before that was the anonaki worship, And thousands of years before the biblical timeline, the first recorded ever religion was Hindu religion. And then even before that you had shamanism and before that you had and ancestor worship and nature worship, etc. religious practises and forms of religion, long predate the Bible timeline The idea of one true God and Jehovah was a much later invention, so why do we choose that one that came out of Judaism and Canaanite teachings? It makes no sense. It appears to be just another recycled religious idea. In fact, you can see many crossovers between Babylonian and Canaanite religions that made their way into Judaism. I mean Abraham time around these other nations so other Bible writers same with Moses, etc., most likely these religious ideas Rubbed off on Moses and he incorporated them into Judaism It’s not like the Dead Sea scrolls and the Bible was the original religious text ever written. There’s a lot of other religions and ideas and forms of worship that predate the Bible timeline not just its writings, but it’s actual timeline by many thousands of years.
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
It's weird how trinitarians have never read the Bible, isn't it?
@ericbulman1752
@ericbulman1752 3 месяца назад
No scripture says Jesus was created . Colossians 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth visible and invisible. John 1:3 All things came into being by Him and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being . You left out that it says nothing came into being that has come into being . In other words out of the things that came into being not one came into being without Him. Both scriptures say Jesus created all things that He was not created
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 3 месяца назад
Of course nothing like that can be found in scripture. Very strange teachings indeed.
@yahuhallah1259
@yahuhallah1259 3 месяца назад
@@ericbulman1752If you don’t accept Colossians 1:15 as proof that Jesus was created then how about revelation 3:14 the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
@thegoverningbody
@thegoverningbody 3 месяца назад
ello
@danielecolla5767
@danielecolla5767 3 месяца назад
Elder child abuse and be quiet Or else. This Gabriel old dirty man.
@danielecolla5767
@danielecolla5767 3 месяца назад
Even this Marc scene shows off their acceptance of child abuse.
@danielecolla5767
@danielecolla5767 3 месяца назад
Great true and funny analydid
@mr.d.c.1914.1
@mr.d.c.1914.1 3 месяца назад
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
@ExJWCaleb
@ExJWCaleb 3 месяца назад
What does that have to do with the video
@yahuhallah1259
@yahuhallah1259 3 месяца назад
@@ExJWCaleb It has plenty to do with the video. He’s showing how wrong you are regarding John 1:1
@ExJWCaleb
@ExJWCaleb 3 месяца назад
Me and every single bible translation?
@yahuhallah1259
@yahuhallah1259 3 месяца назад
@@ExJWCaleb Come on you haven't done enough research. You went to a bias website that promotes mainly mainstream Bibles, right? This shows you really haven't done proper research grammatically and contextually my apostate friend.
@ExJWCaleb
@ExJWCaleb 3 месяца назад
Please show me an interlinear bible or pretty much any other reputable bible that translates that verse like JW's translate it.
@timtoney669
@timtoney669 3 месяца назад
Not gon' lie, "Eve" is kinda hot. 6:17
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 3 месяца назад
Oh yeah. "Come hither." My ex wife used to say Watchtower Jesus was hot.
@sprinkdesign7170
@sprinkdesign7170 Месяц назад
RE the edit - yours is so much worse. Seventeen Mangopple glances would be MUCH better. Actually... no. What is better than seventeen? Eighteen, obviously. Needs eighteen, or....maybe twenty-six. Fourty-five? Fourty-nine. Signed off, approved.
@Talmid-vb9sr
@Talmid-vb9sr 3 месяца назад
And of course, Adam is white man! What else??! 😢
@grimlokg
@grimlokg 3 месяца назад
Sorry bro, both cuts were shitty
@georgerafa5041
@georgerafa5041 3 месяца назад
Facts. Like most exCult members he has a ridiculous idea of what his real capabilities are. Like a toddler that took her first steps and now thinks she can race healthy adults lol
@shiningskies47
@shiningskies47 3 месяца назад
@@georgerafa5041huh?? he literally said this is just a rough cut he did in 30 minutes, never claimed it was a professional edit
@akingdom4mypeople343
@akingdom4mypeople343 3 месяца назад
Wrong, Jehovah does lead the j dubs as his identity is the ruler of the world the real God whose name is not Jehovah has nothing to with this uninspired outfit
@lilith_287
@lilith_287 2 месяца назад
We know who is leading this Religion...the Angel of Light ;) Lucifer
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