The KBD8X MKIII keyboard is the sequel I did not know I needed

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Keyboard: Denim Blue / Anodized Gray KBD8X MKIII kbdfans.com/r?id=v0h0cv
Board insulation: NO FOAMS, Force Break
Plate: Polycarbonate, Aluminum
PCB: all 1.2mm hotswap in this video
Keycaps: GMK Muted, GMK DMG
Switches: SP Star Meteor White V1, Cherry MX Black, Geon Black
Stabilizers: Gateron V2 stabilizers, TX AP Stabilizers
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@FitLabb 9 месяцев назад

Killer price for what it is, highly recommend as well based on what I see in your video and my previous experience with earlier versions of these boards.

@livelaughlucass 9 месяцев назад

fit labbbbb

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

it's still as low-hype as ever but it is reliable af. and it feels a bit more polished now for sure!

@mihneagogu1389 8 месяцев назад

@@livelaughlucassone of us one of us!

@samdeur 5 месяцев назад

It’s 305 euro to get it here to Eu.. that’s $330 for the stainless steel version with alu plate..stark difference from the $199 +$40 shipping hahaha..also I agree about the 1.2mm hotswap pcb would rather have 1.6mm

@__entiendo 9 месяцев назад

Two Andy videos in a row? This is the sequel I did now know I needed

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

gotta stay on the grind

@93ksj 9 месяцев назад

That looks clean as hell

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

AGREED, super clean

@zanda1836 9 месяцев назад

"keycult who?" sent me

@locolama 9 месяцев назад

The Mocha anodization with raw steel weight is fire.

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

that's a nice combo!

@ImOnMy116 9 месяцев назад

Seems like a bummer KBDFans (among others) haven’t gotten the message on the spacebar mounting points! Feels kinda surprising given that feedback’s been shared on quite a few boards (feel like you mentioned it on the taco) and plenty of folks have gotten it right for awhile now (e.g. my Sonnet and Arc60).

@jalexanderc 9 месяцев назад

sick snoopy shirt, uncle andy! nice vid too

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

THANKS! got it from Tilly's lmao

@ireakhavok 9 месяцев назад

Hey, man great video.

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

thank you!

@brocky 8 месяцев назад

what shelf do you have behind you? Happen to have a link?

@quocanhhbui8271 9 месяцев назад

still waiting for your pc kohaku review ;) great video as always

@MonkeyDLuffy-pk3xq 4 месяца назад

Hey would you recommend it over the neo80? :")) i have been eying that for a while !

@arpeykeys 9 месяцев назад

top/gasket dual mount plus a hefty weight on a tkl for that price is super value honestly. The only thing holding me back from buying it is just how boring it looks on each side. I really hope they make something like the tiger80 but with a weight cuz the side profile on the alu version was super nice for the price. It just got overshadowed by the tiger lite and the fact that they only offered flex cut pcbs for it.

@lorenzogazzola328 9 месяцев назад

I think the cidoo V75 it's way better sound wise. That's too clacky for my taste.

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

@arpeykeys it does look kinda boring, it's one of the more simple designs and i think that's what keeps the price lower. the alu tiger was cool but the lite sounded better bc it was plastic @lorenzogazzola328 the cidoov75 has a horrible spacebar. and it has nothing in common with the board in this video lmao. what a strange comparison to make.

@arpeykeys 9 месяцев назад

@@AndyVNguyen for sure, especially when weights are usually a big chunk of any board with a weight. I haven’t tried it myself yet but I think the tiger80 alu wouldve been killer if it had a normal 1.6mm pcb.

@truongvuonghuy6760 8 месяцев назад

Does the 1.2mm pcb have a bad effect on the sound and typing feeling of the keyboard compared to the 1.6mm pcb? I'm very confused because hotswap is only available on the 1.2mm pcb, not on the 1.6mm pcb.

@AndyVNguyen 8 месяцев назад

They don’t offer 1.6 for hotswap unfortunately. If you need hotswap then you’re stuck with 1.2. It’s okay, it would just sound better with 1.6

@brian3602 9 месяцев назад

You are right that MX blacks on aluminium is like a cheat code or MX blacks in general really. Dk what else is a good switch after getting these

@karstenk.6067 9 месяцев назад

nice. test the qk100

@kieran1348 8 месяцев назад

why is there 4 sriracha bottles on the shelf 😂

@defiance1 8 месяцев назад

any good thocky prebuilt keyboard suggestions? Please respond ..anyone

@RoboKeebo 9 месяцев назад

just on time with the drop in an hour :- ) I can always trust your showcases

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

i just got back from vegas and instead of resting i went straight to work to wrap up this video! hopefully i can help your purchase decision

@xeroze01 9 месяцев назад

The kbd8x mkII is so much of a sleeper. I bought it last year at around 230 in the secondhand market and I think it has a lot of interest in every single meetup i have brought it to thus far. It has no reason being that good in terms of feel and sound for the build i went with it. A force break + taped flex cut with PC plate/cherry mx franken tactiles made it slap at least a tier above its original price class, which was surprising considering the original price point was universally regarded as a super overpriced board that is due a relic of its time. For what it's worth it's now in my 3-keyboard rotation with the Alina80 and Cloudline, and it's unabashingly the worst looking board I have by far but the typefeel and sound made it worth keeping and using over any of the other boards I had including a rather lacklustre iron180

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

definitely a great project board to make sound good. CL and iron180 look better but kinda meh in sound and meh for the price you pay. I'm dallying the kbd8x mkiii now !

@amizan8653 9 месяцев назад

I have a tiger 80 light and I also have the qk80. I've also had the keychron Q3. By far, my favorite board of all of them is the tiger 80 lite. I really wish that board wasn't discontinued

@eisnerisgod 9 месяцев назад

It’s a nice board. My most favorite. I ended up with 2 (because I had an extra case 😅). But no regrets. This might be a good board to consider.

@xeroze01 9 месяцев назад

The downside of that board is that it's an one trick pony, but damn, it does nail down that trick pretty well.

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

what's the one trick?

@z4k1_zaki65 8 месяцев назад

Geonworks is currently continuing to run the Tiger80 lite! Its instock on his site

@nathanaelfurlow6076 8 месяцев назад

Does this keyboard use 3 pin or 5 pin switches? I can’t find info on it

@AndyVNguyen 8 месяцев назад

5 pin

@olo398 8 месяцев назад

whats force break?

@riceoverwife 9 месяцев назад

Wait... this is nice

@DarkPandaKiwiSlicer 7 месяцев назад

Zoom TKL, qk80, or this, I’m struggling to decide

@AndyVNguyen 7 месяцев назад

can't really go wrong, theyll all sound good. if you dont want ANY hollowness, then go for the gaskety boards like zoomtkl or qk80

@JavierLe171 9 месяцев назад

Nhìn ông để mấy chai siracha phía sau như là đồ trang trí hài thật :)))

@kename1280 9 месяцев назад

Ive peaked

@mr.guillotine3766 9 месяцев назад

Almost all these boards are out of my budget (I'm poor) but man, it's good to see that there are high quality ones that I can actually dream of maybe affording at some point if I got lucky and it wouldn't cost me like $600. Plus, when these type of boards start coming down in prices, we start to see more features and polish in even cheaper options (that seems to be the way it's been trending anyway, I mean, hell, the number of cheap boards you can get that are hot swap and have at least some foam in them these days is unreal at almost any price point). I like this board. Sounds pretty good as it is, and just a couple easy and cheap mods do fix most of the flaws. Hell, to some people there might not be any flaws to begin with since this hobby is extremely subjective and all about preference.

@synergies. 9 месяцев назад

How does your bakeneko sound test sound so good without foam?

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

One layer of tape/shelf liner helps. But which sound test are you referring to

@andrewthepoo2955 9 месяцев назад

@@AndyVNguyentape on the pcb or case?

@synergies. 9 месяцев назад

The one with bakeneko 60 wob and dogikons

@jessiequema2494 9 месяцев назад

Have you tried using a 1.6mm PCB?

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

wasn't protod for review units i prefer 1.6mm over 1.2mm 11/10 times

@jessiequema2494 9 месяцев назад

@@AndyVNguyen, yeah perhaps generic Hiney PCBs will work. Not sure why they keep releasing 1.2mm though. This would probably beat the Frog TKL in the sound category if the PCB was 1.6mm.

@fnvfanMSPR 9 месяцев назад

@@jessiequema2494 solder is 1.6mm

@jessiequema2494 9 месяцев назад

@@fnvfanMSPR would be nice if anyone would do a sound test with a 1.6mm solder pcb.

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

hiney pcbs will not work. this is using a proprietary pcb that has the mcu on the daughterboard itself. this allows the customer to just replace the jst rather than the whole pcb. and the 1.6mm pcb's dont exist yet unfortunately.

@patiszejuicebox 9 месяцев назад

I'd say if I didn't already have Tiger Lite, I'd get this.

@kaeroseon 9 месяцев назад

Now I just need kbd67mk4 cause the tofu65 with no blocker kinda ugly and the kbd67 side profile looks really nice

@heavenlyflowerdemon 9 месяцев назад

ive been wanting a top mount board for a while so i might grab this

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

Surprisingly good. I think it was smart they removed bowl mount compat

@livelaughlucass 9 месяцев назад

bro im ngl the qk80 is one of qk's worst sounding boards and this might sound even worse, this is so dead just like every other kbdfans designed board, if you value heft and a 'flashy' weight and good value for money then this is great but if you care about sound never buy a kbdfans keyboard

@kaeroseon 9 месяцев назад

@@livelaughlucass I mean if by dead you mean a no foam, stiff mounting sound then you are right. You can still stuff foam into all of these boards and have it sound nice and loud and full.

@kaeroseon 9 месяцев назад

@@livelaughlucasssound is also super subjective and I find that a lot of kbdfans keyboards sounds pretty nice with the top mount. The gasket mount is as good but still sounds pretty ok. Less boring than PE foam filled boards imo.

@livelaughlucass 9 месяцев назад

@@kaeroseon that’s fair enough, and i’m not saying that they’re terrible or something, but in terms of objective sound factors, there are infinitely more options that will satisfy someone more than a kbd fans board in the same price range, that do not need foams. i’ve found in general that the boards that are actually nice are way too overpriced, and the budget ones that are meant to be be heavy hitters are kinda made to be eye catching, big weight big mass heavy, but heavy doesn’t not correlate to good, like this, or especially the taco75, all that weight just to not sound full, sound dead and super weak, and have other issues too

@buddha8166 9 месяцев назад

Do you think the Tofu2.0 or the Envoy is a better first buy for a custom 65% keyboard?

@poppy69420 9 месяцев назад

envoy is superior by a wide margin in pretty much every way possible, that's not to say it doesn't have its own problems. IMHO neo65 is the best 1st keyboard on the market rn

@kaeroseon 9 месяцев назад

Tofu has more consistent sound and is a little more versatile with more colors and mounting options. Top mount will sound a little deeper but less poppy while the other 2 mount on the tofu will have a softer feel and creamier sound. Envoy is a little bit sleeker looking and has softer typing feel but less options and can look a little boring. It also sounds inconsistent. I prefer the tofu myself but both are good. The neo65 is probably the best value option right now though.

@livelaughlucass 9 месяцев назад

this is an insanely unfairl comparison ngl, the envoy completely shits on the tofu in every single possible realm in any category and they shouldnt be used in the same sentence, except for looks, which you decide what you like more

@livelaughlucass 9 месяцев назад

but i agree with the two replies that neo65 is insane for value, if you wanna save some money its better than both

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

neo65 for sure for the budget. mode has a better finish and tofu has more options. tofu is quiet but more consistent sounding

@jessiequema2494 9 месяцев назад

Does the type of weight affect the sound?

@kaeroseon 9 месяцев назад

As long as the actual mass stays relatively similar it should be consistent.

@jessiequema2494 9 месяцев назад

@@kaeroseon as far as I remember, boards with steel weights are typically higher pitched. Steel is also more dense than brass. Also the reverberation from the case should transfer to the weight. Similar to plates, copper and steel are higher pitched due to its density and stiffness.

@haomingli6175 9 месяцев назад

@@jessiequema2494 wrong. brass is heavier (denser) than steel.

@jessiequema2494 9 месяцев назад

Sure, I stand corrected. Good job in proving that I got that wrong lol. Got anything insightful to add? The point there was there is a weight difference ergo might affect the sound. I dont entirely remember Keybored's content but his test prove that there is a difference in sound with plate materials based on weight/mass and material stiffness. Check it out in case you haven't seen it.

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

there is the tiniest of holes for sound to travel through (for the jst) to hit the weight. i do not think the weight is making a huge difference here as it is not a through hole weight. when i build with both the ss/copper they sounded generally similar enough. IMO the aesthetic/price of the weights should be considered more heavily than the sound. The last situation where I remembered the weight affecting the sound was going from Alu to Copper in the 910 ME's. Alu is very different from copper so that was a big jump. But SS>Brass>Copper are so similar in density that it hasn't made a discernible difference to my ears.

@andrewthepoo2955 9 месяцев назад

Any idea why they discontinued the tiger 80 lite?

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

Prob because this beats it and injection mold isn’t as popular if CNC alu is close in price

@z4k1_zaki65 8 месяцев назад

@@AndyVNguyenGeonworks is now continuing the Tiger80 lite!

@x3LightNinG 9 месяцев назад

mx blacks and alu really never misses lol

@chuckthetrooper 9 месяцев назад

This or Zoom TKL? I’m on the fence here

@kaeroseon 9 месяцев назад

I think the 8x looks more premium but the zoom seems like it sounds a little better stock.

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

I like this over zoom because it has top mount and feels way more substantial

@AnhBoyDad 9 месяцев назад

Andy prob have too much free time this week. Hence alot of videos 😃

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

i just procrastinated lol

@snakeplissken5969 9 месяцев назад

It went live and I was sad to see the $44 shipping that brings the total for me to $268, kind of hard to stomach on what appears to be a mid board

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

What makes a board high end instead of mid?

@defauaultz 9 месяцев назад

Could wait a bit and see if divinikey will start carrying it

@ChiefBrianIrons 9 месяцев назад

Still not a fan of weight text font

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

Valid opinion

@ChiefBrianIrons 9 месяцев назад

@@AndyVNguyen any chance of you reviewing qk75n

@kaeroseon 9 месяцев назад

@@ChiefBrianIronsqk stopped sending him review units so it’s either a viewer send it in and its gonna be really late and miss GB date or there’s no review at all. This happened after the link 65 got a slightly negative review.

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

yeah what kaeroseon said. the qk stuff doesn't come this way anymore because I don't bow down to vendors lol

@ChiefBrianIrons 9 месяцев назад

@@AndyVNguyen fair play

@kename1280 9 месяцев назад

Dogege

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

dogege #1

@aesric 9 месяцев назад

hollow bro

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

i think it's just at the edge of what's good for an old school top mount sound. if you're more sensitive to the hollow, the silicone is a little 'fuller' and then you drop in a layer of case foam

@ipaldesse 9 месяцев назад

Cycle7 is still better

@livelaughlucass 9 месяцев назад

HI IPAL

@leftcoastfunk 9 месяцев назад

Cycle7 is FRL tho, can't really fairly compare since it's a different format

@livelaughlucass 9 месяцев назад

you can still definitely compare, especially if the layout is pretty close @@leftcoastfunk

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

Cycle7 is really good, when they do tkl it’s gonna go hard

@leftcoastfunk 9 месяцев назад

I mean I'm not saying the Cycle7 isn't good, I just think it's maybe a little weird to make that comparison here. I'm suuuper hyped for the Cycle7 myself

@kename1280 9 месяцев назад

Review boards are wk automatically trash boards

@AndyVNguyen 9 месяцев назад

your mom's a WK user

@haomingli6175 9 месяцев назад

I think wkl only makes sense on 60% boards.

@kename1280 9 месяцев назад

@@haomingli6175 both both r good