The explosion should cause damage, the bag* would go flying up and probably set off other mines, the bag and it's innards could be turned to shrapnel, such unrealistic writing. Never said it would set off the mine, I'm well aware it's a show, yes the explosion FROM the mine would/could also cause damage. Any more questions or accusations? Edit: thx for likes, all of this is guesswork
@@slipperysnakelaw yeah those 911 shows always have the most absurd situation with the most over the top unrealistic solution to a point where it’s not even enjoyable (for me)
In case you’re wondering, both of the kids survive. The fire department came and paramedics but the bomb squad wasn’t going to make it in time. Captain Strand came up with an idea to grab a duffle bag and spray paint and would throw it across and if it didn’t blow up it’s safe. He brought his son Tk who is a paramedic with him and they managed to get to the injured boy and saved them both
How did the one kid get injured? It doesn’t show in the clip.. one second he’s fine then he’s on the ground.. did something hit him when the first guy exploded?
@@oliviarose3598 when the guy exploded, bits and pieces of him flew over the place. Either the pieces were so fast it made him have a fatal injury or the guy had something sharp which then flew into his leg. I’m not always right of this stuff though so I wouldn’t trust everything I say
“Let’s throw this really heavy bag about 3 feet infront of us incase there’s a landmine and pray that the ANTI-PERSONNEL mine that has a lethality distance of 3-5 meters doesn’t fucking kill me”
I hate these kind of shows. The writers have no grip on reality. This wasn’t done for dramatic effect this was done because the writers were dumb enough to think it would work.
Helicopters won't work, especially using a ladder or a rope from the helicopter, once you move your foot, the mine will explode and you left with either a half a person or your said rope or ladder end up being a lot shorter then before
Sorry but if the helicopter gets too close the wind pressure from the rotor bakers will set the one around it off the chopper wud have to drop a ladder
@@imperialavian Sometimes people used to run through a good chunk of a minefield before getting blasted off. This was actually a weird tactic I heard once that involved a low density mine field at first, that increassed as you reached the end of it. So, people, and vehicles, would fall on teh pretence that either this is not an actual mine field, or a low density one. There are other tactics, such as putting an anti personel mine below an anti vehicle one, so if the AV mine was detected and engineers tried to disable it, when messin with it, the AP mine would detonate.
For those of you wondering "HOW COULD SOMEONE JUST WALK INTO A MINE FIELD!" The USA provides, as part of its "dont spend my tax dollars on those countries when it can be used right here" Foreign Aid, the funds for minefields to be safely swept up by professionals, and not the local children/farm animals. Don't let the goobers ruin the idea of foreign aid just because they can not see with their own eyes the work that the USA does to help around the world. It is not America First... it is a neighbor, and part of a broader community of nations.
I know they're dumb and I'm the one that says our soecies has devolved to a point where mentally deficient us average. But I still don't think they're THAT stupid.. well maybe but they definitely aren't that brave, so worry not
@@WoahBrotherMan Yeah, because these Hollywood writers don't know anything and they pass on their ignorance to the masses, who then get the wrong idea.
Would you want to be in a minefield and watch someone blow up like that one guy cause he thought throwing bags was the correct way to save you? Or some more stupid way to die?
*He also created a deadly hazard to the whole community by building a minefield on his lawn.* He's also the one that shot the drone, which prompted 2 kids to walk into said lawn. *If anything, it would be more accurate to say he almost killed them.*
@@grumpypants2066 i know this is a joke, just in case it isn't; i think it's still illegal to intentionally spread deadly hazards on your property in most parts of the states as far as i know. could be wrong though, i'm not from there
@@derdox6720 I am from Spain, here in my area, a man could not sell part of his land, it was a corner, less than 20 meters, for the construction of a highway, and it could not be built, a normal two-lane way was built , and with a very dangerous narrow road when it passes through his place, not only are we left without a highway for more than 1 million people, and way more in summer, but I don't know how many accidents there have already been on that stretch of road. In a serious country these types of people would be in jail.
It's not really even about memorizing the mine layout. To place a ton of mines with no coherent patching is suicide, it just depends how long before you trip one yourself, even with memorization. Instead, create a patching pattern that you know that others wouldn't. If I, for example, know from this exact rock next to my fence, I can walk toe to heel for 15 steps then take a 90 degree turn to the right and toe to heal for 7 more, then 90 degree left turn, etc , etc. I can pretty easily navigate the field without remembering where most of them are
@@Scarjo121 yep i googled it to make sure you do learn something new every day there are comments in other post saying they dont so i googled it bcause i was here with no knowledge of the subject thats scary they move so scary that should be a subject of a RU-vid video
no no no no. human error is WAY up there. NEVER trust yourself. the way military (i am one) is taught is to take an object like a knife. and begin to inch crawl by shoving it in the ground every few inches at an ANGLE. it takes the body weight of a light weight human to trigger one. this is so they get human targets and not a rabbit or something. but tbh, stay where you are and scream for help. hope they don’t do this weird fire truck thing and just get a helicopter.
Nope, no rat gonna save them. Rat mines only get breed, get trains, works on location that need active demines work, like some country in Africa or Cambodia. To get those rat to somewhere out of nowhere in usa, it would take days on commercial route (air plane), may take less than a day if on military route. But that kid only have about 45 minutes at best 1 hours, so waiting for rat from another continent wouldn't help this scenario.
There are 2 different types of mines 1. Detonates upon impact or applied pressure 2. Only detonates once you’ve released pressure off of it If your not on one you just need a chopper and that’s it to airlift you away
You know, I will say this for the dead paranoid guy. He was at least going to save them and stopped them from moving. He was a dumbass for not making a real map, but at least he wasn't paranoid enough to let innocent teens die.
@@boby4465 Wrong. Blatantly wrong. They're alive because of HIM AND the police. If he hadn't informed them about the minefield, they'd be dead without them knowing.
Fun fact! Mines *move* Even if you have a map of where the mines were originally placed, if it has been over a month, it isn't safe to assume the map is accurate anymore
@@botdfbvba helicopter would be the worst possible move, the downdraft of the blades would cause an increase in pressure on the ground. Those are anti personal mines which don't need much force to activate. The pressure would be enough to detonate most the mines
You know mines go off when the pressure put on it is lifted, meaning a helicopter would actually be a lot more detrimental since it would be difficult to accurately guess where the mines are from above, meaning people can't land from the Helicopter, and lifting the boys up would cause the detonation, likely killing them.
Might have been an effective rescue measure, but not without paying a pretty penny. It's interesting how expensive many life-saving things are. Mind you, I can't think why the anti-gov guy wouldn't assume the Gov could just get past his minefield on taxpayer money in a helicopter.
The only reason I could think of is the helicopter could possibly produce enough force on the ground to detonate the mines? Even with a rope, I’m not sure
Army Combat Engineer here, that is such a god damn stupid way of testing for mines, you are not going to throw that bag farther than the mine blast area. You have to tediously test the ground with a small non magnetic stick. It would take literal hours to get to those kids but a hell of a lot less likely to die, hopefully his mines didn’t have anti handling devices to kill anyone trying to dig them up.
All it could've took was to get an metal detector or mine detector I don't understand how these people have drones, but don't have those special equipment for it 😂
Thing is these mines were made to blow after setting foot on that lane so they had 45m max to take them out not even brought time for a chopper to come & drop the ladder
people use specially trained rats to clear landmines since they can somehow sence them. They're put on long leashes which are later used to determine the safety spots
There's a limit of how much you can extend it horizontally, you know? Extend it too much with a person staying at the end of it and it is enough of a lever pulling enough of a torque to tip the truck over.
Lets calculate. Lets say that firetruck weights 20 000 lbs and has width of 8 ft. Just ordinary aluminum ladder bought from store weights 50 lbs per 10 ft. Lets imagine that firetruck ladders weights 5 times that. With 100 ft reach, the weight is 2 500 lbs. The torque is mass multiplied with center of weight, which makes (50 x 2,5k) 125k for ladder vs (4 x 20k) 80k for truck, so in this case the truck would tilt over without anyone even standing on ladder. Many trucks do have extensions spread their width and allow larger reach before tipping point, but those aren't doing much in soft ground.
It’s not supposed to be realistic. It’s supposed to foster positive feelings towards law enforcement and negative feelings towards antigovernment people.
Not really. Mines are made to injure, not kill. A soldier without a leg is more harmful to a war effort than a dead soldier. Much more resources are put towards the wounded.
Note that most minefields have a weight trigger. A human could stand on an anti-tank mine and not get blown up because they didn't trigger the weight trigger. That was a stupid idea in general, but especially because the bag is significantly lighter than a human.
this is true, but how would someone would know if it’s anti personnel or anti armor? wouldnt. the military teaches the inch crawl. basically shoving a knife into the ground, crawling a couple inches and repeating. never had to do it but i did train on it.
@@sebalakner8194 That's the point. Anti tank mines wouldn't blow up if a human stepped on them. I was using it as an example to point out the possible weight triggers. The bag would likely not set off a mine that is tailored to a human's weight since there doesn't seem to be anything heavy in it. I know it's just a film but I wanted to point that out
I love everybody complaining about the bag full of metal technique like they know anything about mines. The fact those boys both didn’t die implies that mine is not shrapnel-based. Throwing a sufficiently thick bag full of metal plates onto the mine will absorb the explosion, and any of the shrapnel that erupts. I know this, because it’s a recurring technique when you don’t have a sweeper or LOS. If you have LOS, you can either avoid it (not usually doable), move it (provided it’s specifically an anti-personnel or armor mine, and not an IED), or shoot it (what most soldiers will do, because the shrapnel never makes it far enough, or punches through the Bradley. Shit, sometimes they’ll drive over it anyways, because they know it’ll be fine).
Even if the bag was successful in preventing death by mine. Wouldn't it become useless afterwards? I may not be an expert in metallurgy but everything degrades after so much force. So they hamper one mine and still have a length of field getting to the kids. All in all, it's still a bad idea.
@@KlyosXA So yes, but no. See, the explosion itself hits the metal, but the shrapnel hits the bag. According to some US soldiers I know from Iraq and Afghan, they said a rucksack and a couple metal plates could take five or six anti-personnel (non-shrapnel) mines before you had to turn the bag over to the other side
@@KlyosXA But that’s with a rucksack. They’re decently thick bags. With a thinner bag, you might get one or two less, maybe half? It really depends on how many plates/how big+thick they are, and the bag.
