That interview was rough…I couldn’t imagine being a police officer and hearing this internet delusion being used to explain why someone murdered 10 people…
@@MrReganomics1 Youll get no argument that modern dating is definitely geared against men. But is it worth throwing your life away to murder 10 ppl because of it?
Nope on second thought... This whole interview has gotta be fake. No human talks like this😂😂😂. Modern dating is toxic but this dude is a caricature of an incel
@@libertusprimus Of course not, they were innocent people just living life normally until that point. You're not pathetic for being caught by surprise by a van when you're walking to get groceries.
Hearing Alek trying to meme-speak his way through his police interview, after just killing a bunch of people, is maybe the cringiest thing I have ever seen in my life.
I had to stop the video for a while when he called his people Pepe the frog types. Like what? How is anyone supposed to take that seriously. I genuinly feel bad for the detective.
This case always hit close to home. My mother worked in the area of the attack. She and her coworker would always go on walks at lunch for the exercise. When the news broke I was frantically calling her. I couldn't get her, I was about to call one of my siblings then the phone rang. She had a meeting that ran long so she had to skip her walk. I was never so happy about a meeting taking place. The whole day was horrific.
Our son is socially awkward and is on the spectrum of autism. Let's encourage him to get in the army, I'm sure all his problems will be solved and no one will bully him. Gonna have the time of his life there. Smh.
@@hennylo68 For someone on the spectrum, "discipline" is not the problem. This wasn't a lazy kid who couldn't get his act together and needed to get kicked into shape, this was a boy who was mentally ill and needed help, kicking was the LAST thing he needed. I'm not sure what "these kids" you're referring to, but it kinda sounds like Elliot's "you girls" - a disdainful, blanket condemnation of an imaginary group that you mentally replace real people with.
he unironically called himself that, along with magnificent, beautiful, and other superlatives that did not really apply, and said that women were stupid to reject him
Ok wait but why is nobody talking about the cop that didn’t fire his gun when he pulled his wallet from his waistband and then very smartly took control of the situation. That was very very good situational awareness.
It's pretty remarkable how quick to asses, respond, and deescalate a situation as well and flawlessly as this officer did; and still no complication or harm during capture.
the interrogation made me cringe so much.. him talking about "pepe the frog" "chads" "staceys" "normies" outside the internet is so weird and cringeworthy
And that "Pepe the Frog" is a symbol of worship! A small part of my mind wants to laugh at this clown, but the rest of my mind is overruling it by being too weirded out by how serious he is and by remembering that he killed 10 random people and injured 16 more random people. Plus there's a Full Metal Jacket quality to his military experience and Facebook posting that I thought about while watching this video.
These people are maladapted to normal life, being pushed together into a dark corner where they develop their own culture and hatred towards those of the society that pushed them aside. 'normies' 'pepe'and' Stacies' is just their twisted language of hatred.
if that was an American officer, Alek would have gotten shot and died. So many American officer seems to try to escalate the situation just so they can use excess force. Great job office Ken! You are the model LEO that all officers in America should follow.
Almost all officers are like him. Sadly, they have to deal with criminals that actually try to hurt them, especially in America where criminals are raised thinking they are above the law.
Coming from someone who is autistic, all the defense really tried to do was blame it all on something they don't really understand, and thus was trying to give people like us a bad rep. So frustrating...
As a fellow autistic man i totally agree. I struggle with social interaction with my classmates every day but I don't want to hurt them for my lack of social skills.
@acmhfmggru I could argue with you over this, but I won't since so many in society believe anything and everything that happens when the news talks about crime and mental illness automatically assumes it is because of what ever their affliction may be. No one truly knows what it's like to be on this side unless they are on the same side of the fence. They just think they do because it justifies their false beliefs. Like me, hate me, I could care less
I almost coughed up a lung when the news article of Elliot roger came up with the title “Virgin Rampage”. Imagine pulling a murderous rampage thinking it’s your big moment to show the world how you really feel, just for your actions to be immortalised as a virgin rampage
@@blastyyz2824 And also tried to make it funny in a sense. Like I know they were making fun of him, but I feel like it was disrespectful to the victim’s families. We make the perpetrators notorious while forgetting the lives lost
"ah yes our son is emotionally delicate, struggles to cope with bullying, and can't interact with others without great difficulty... Let's encourage him to go to the army!"
There is a strange belief that going into the army will cure any psychological problem you have. I’m sure it helps people whose main problem is they need discipline, even regimentation - but there are some people who will crack under the same conditions. Perhaps if Alex hadn’t tried and failed in the army, he’d never have hit the depths he did.
As a matter of fact I did just that. I thought the military would help me gain social confidence, and it did. I expected discipline, structure, and to have goals that I could reach. That's how the recruiters sell it, after all. In reality being in the military is one big mind game where you are set up to fail so that you are forced to rely on your team and your command. It's not a self-help program.
If you were a lazy student with huuge problems regarding discipline, then going to the army works (it did for me), but in this case? It really did more damage than good, especially if the person is not cut out for the military. You need a thick skin; not only because of your superiors, but some of your fellow grunts as well. He really needed psychological treatment as soon as possible instead...
@@LoudmouthReviews well this dude had no reason to fall down that rabbit hole if we’re going by appearance only, but he’s clearly a social r3t4rd. i honestly feel bad for him, i believe he might’ve been autistic and that’s his biggest issue along with a few other things that didn’t necessarily help him.
I seriously laughed out loud when they tried to use being Autistic as a defence. I'm Autistic, I have empathy. The vast majority of Autistic people HAVE empathy no matter where we fall on the spectrum. We get claimed to lack it due to having issues showing it at times, but we DO have empathy. The idea of his lawyer using that defence is so insulting.
Lawyers are like that, they'll say the most disgusting shit to defend crimes. Many people know that autistic people can have empathy, especially those with Asperger's like alek had, who are in the high intelligence spectrum. My boyfriend has asperger's and he's the most empathetic person I've ever met, the biggest sweetheart. And aleks big cringe moments have nothing to do with autism, only to do with incel-ism. He dead ass said "converting life status into dead status" to describe murdering like holy shit
as a hyper empathetic autistic person that shit is infuriating. autistic people are generally very compassionate with or without empathy. that idea that we arent compassionate is part of why so many people are biased against or outright hate autistic people.
My brother is autistic too. He is very empathetic. He just has a hard time expressing emotion the same way others do. This man has no excuse. He is a monster.
"and what about the normies", hearing that from a senior detective.. has me rolling LIKE.. but all jokes aside people with his mindset and willingness to act on it are terrifying
Lmao him trying to act tough following the cop with the wallet to bait him into taking a shot. The second that cop walked up on him he dropped to the floor with the quickness 😂
Listening to that interrogation makes me believe that mental illness is contagious. When frustrations fester, things become a lot worse when you surround yourself with frustrated people. The internet is a cesspool for the darkest of rabbit holes.
I really like the fact that you include the victims, their lives and even their faces at the end of your videos. You don't always get that on true crime channels and it's one of the things that, to me, makes you stand out. Kudos!
I too appreciate the fact that we can rely on Adrian to have a sensitive approach to talking about the victims of the crimes he covers. And to give us an opportunity to reflect on their image and humanity and to acknowledge their loss.
The victims' names and faces should always be focused on. Showing loads of attention to the perpetrator encourages more to commit other crimes for the attention
When people don't show the faces it's because they want to keep the focus on the killer(s), or it could be out of respect for the victims and their families if they weren't asked for permission. But of course it's also respectful to acknowledge their existence.
@@muadhnate It's helpful if you can adapt quickly to this new environment, routine etc. and fit in with your peers, not so much if you are socially awkward or on the spectrum.
It doesn’t say much since his job is just to get the suspect to talk in general. Cops don’t just walk into a murder suspect’s interrogation and say “this guy is a weirdo I’m leaving”. It’s their literal job to ask them questions and get them to talk, and this guy was more than willing to talk.
I live right at the intersection of Yonge and Finch where this happened. I was walking my daughter home from school when I saw all the fire trucks and police cars on Yonge street. I saw all the bodies covered with plastic sheets. I was horrified and traumatized. It was one body after another strewn on the street. Absolutely horrific and I will never get those images out of my head. 😞
ikr imagine being that interrogator, i know they have to keep a straight face through some messed up sh!t but i bet he never thought he'd hear something like that
@@loulou3676 ive gotta be honest... it was atleast inventive. Just when he thought his job was getting boring and repetitive he got thrown a curve ball.
“After six months for undisclosed reasons, he was fired.” I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it was probably for harassment of a sexual nature and for meowing like a cat in his office.
@@catwithhands hahahaha cool let me go tell my doctor, who is a highly regarded expert in the field, that the $1k price tag, 6 months of exhaustive diagnostic testing, and year and a half wait to get to even see her was all a sham. I'm sure she will love your input as a specialist, Dr. RU-vid.
@@CallawayDay that just showed also his distorted thinking, its scary that people like him exist among stable minded people, but I see your perspective, sometimes ridiculous stuff make me laugh too.
I really rate that police officer man. He could've not handled that situation any better; no deaths, no injuries, no violence. This man really knew how to think and act quick in such a (possible) life or death situation. Other officers might've shot him, which made him get away with his awful action way too easy. I'm glad he got caught, instead of killed and will perish in his prison cell. Props to that detective too. I wouldn't know how to take a guy talking about Pepe the Frog and "normies" serious.
man, investigators really have a way of getting people to tell on themselves. it's amazing how they maintain a calm and lighthearted demeanor. "right, right, the incel uprising, cool cool, tell me more about that, friendo, can I get you anything? thanks so much for being so open with me, pal!"
Speaking from knowing people, not only is it training but experience. That investigator has probably talked to other people who have done disgusting acts.
New microphone! I still have a few minor tweaks to make but I hope that in general you find the change in audio to be more comfortable, let me know what you think! Also if you’re interested, I’m now (properly) on Instagram - instagram.com/coffeehousecrime/ 📼 The case of Elliot Rodger ➜ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-32I4uxAU8wQ.html
Sound is great on my end. I didn't have to adjust my volume at all, thanks for the extra level of polish. I love watching your channel grow, such good content.
Just looked up this case, and there is now 11 victims. :( This is the quote from Wikipedia: "Amaresh Tesfamariam, 65, nurse (She initially survived the attack, but was paralyzed from neck down and never left the hospital. She died on October 28, 2021, as a result of her serious injuries." Heartbreaking.
@@TrueComboKing the biggest lie ever told is that Wikipedia isn’t reliable, they all have sources cited at the bottom of the page and almost every page is HEAVILY monitored. As someone who has messed with a random Wikipedia page it has always been changed within minutes
Justice Anne Molloy who oversaw this case (as Minassian's lawyer opted for a trial by judge) made it very clear in her judgment that this case had NOTHING to do with the incel movement and that Minassian only wanted to be "famous" and nothing else. She wouldn't even use his name when reading her judgment calling him John Doe.
I have disabilities. But man I could never do something this horrible. Life is precious to everyone around us. It's too easy for some people to lash out than to just sit back learn from your mistakes and grow.
I think some people can't be saved. Some members of the human species are struggling with the latent programming in the day that conflicts with how we choose to live now. Technological isolation plays a large part and ever since the death of the community, you're more likely to get individuals like this. Doesn't excuse the loss of life, but I don't think the self-improvement angle works for most of the population.
When that cop asked “if the families of the people you murdered were in this room right now, what would you say to them?” You could see the wheels spinning in his head almost like “Oh shit, they have families?” Like for a second he realized this is REAL. This ain’t fake ass internet 4Chan shit, these are real people with real loved ones who are dead…. That was a great question posed by that detective.
@@thebluemorpho2962 I’ve watched a lot of interrogation videos but I don’t think I’ve ever seen the question posed in that exact way. Usually when they test for empathy (and guilt) they’ll say something like “What do you think should happen to the person that committed this crime?” Or “How do you think their family feels?” But I’ve never heard them say “If the family was sitting right here in the room with us, what would you tell them?” Phrasing it in that way seemed to get to this guy for a split second.
I am an Incel too. By definition. In 31 years every women rejected me. And no women ever showed interest in me. A lot of people here miss why being an incel/virgin affects these people. People have a need for romantic encounters and realationship. It is attached - like every need - to your personal preferences. Some people want a long lasting marriage, other an open realationship and some want only one night stands. But what all people (with a sexual orientation) have in common is the activity seeking for some sort of romantic emcounter with the opposite sex. And God beware. If they dont get it. My female coworker cried when she was single for three months. My sister complained how the lockdown restricted her of hooking up and how it affects her mental health. Only two tell two of hundred examples. Well. Threre are men and women who dont recive the slightest amount of this because they get chronically rejected. They dont experience a dose of any romantic intimacy for years. They walke up alone, they go to bed alone, they nrver have a hug, they never have a kiss and all other things which envolve around this kind of realationship. Thats whats bad. Not whst people who arent even incels trying to sell here.
I live in Toronto and one of the worst things I saw that day was multiple people being given chest compressions and CPR at once. I cry every time I think about that day.
I'm sorry, I'm probably going to hell for this but that arrest was hilarious. That cop was just not having any of it. You can almost hear him thinking: 'The fuck is this muppet pointing his wallet oet me, ey?'
Clearly dude was trying HARD for death by cop. I mean, DOUBLE pulling his wallet from behind his back? He must've been so frustrated. "Just shoot me already! I pulled over & got out so you could shoot me, & now you won't do it!" 😂🤣
I can’t imagine being so awkward and insecure that you start blaming normal people for your shortcomings & you feel the need to go on a murderous rampage.
As a person on the spectrum myself, I am really unnerved by the number of spree killers in the spectrum. I was horribly bullied as a kid, by peers and teachers. I remained bitter about the way I was treated into adulthood. Never found any comfort in thoughts of murder though.
The way he was speaking in the interview was just wow. He is if 4chan was a person. It’s almost funny until I remember the poor people who lost their lives.
What's creepy is how I shared many of these traits, the personality, the mentality, being a social reject and bullied. I wish I could pinpoint what got me out of it because it's been so long ago. I worked on myself a lot, like rather than claiming to be a gem, I did so many life improvements and milestones to get people to believe I was a gem without telling them. I think these people needed help, no bullying, no judgements, they needed some kind of eye opening experience. Unfortunately, they created their own community advocating this kind of behavior. Again, it's insane how I'm able to share and sympathize with this guy. I could have been one of these killers. And now I got a wife, a child, two kittens, a great job, and loving life.
@@AntiquatedApe That would be correct, having nothing but bad experiences happen to you can escalate that, its no excuse to kill of course but these kind of people don't just spawn out of nowhere.
Job well done by the officer to recognize he had no weapon and to peacefully make the arrest. Coming from a law enforcement background, many officers probably would've shot him the first time he pretended to present a weapon.
As of June 13th, 2022, Alek has been found guilty and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for 25 years. It's scary to think that this man could be walking free in the future, but hopefully he gets the counseling he needs and leaves reformed.
Hopefully, he gets the counseling he needs and never leaves, just like his victims will never leave. We can all rest easy knowing he's no longer an incel. As he's now involuntarily un-celibate, which seems like the end he deserves.
Should also add that in Canada, possibility of parole after 25 years is our max sentence. Our justice system is based more on rehabilitation than on retribution, so that is why. That being said, people like Clifford Olson and Alek here don't get parole. We do legitimately release people that have followed through and are no longer considered a threat to society, like our Greyhound Bus beheader. I have mixed feelings about our system because I do believe people who truly turn themselves around and are not a threat should be given a second chance, but I also wish we had the death penalty. I guess that hope for freedom is what makes our justice system what it is, while still being able to keep dangerous people locked up.
Chiming in as a Canadian to say that the Supreme Court here doesn't allow for NO possibility of parole as it presumes a hopeless state where rehabilitation is impossible. Alek got the max possible so basically he cannot apply for 25 years and like Bernardo, he will probably get denied every two years once he's eligible.
He won't parole. All the victims family members will be there to remind the parole board of how callously he murdered their family members. He's going to die in prison.
What shocked me is that he basically admitted that he’s an incel which people generally use that term to insult others. He was using meme terms seriously? Lol
@@JustSendMeLocationPlease What about this do you not understand? Incel means involuntary celibate, and it is a word people in the incelosphere use to describe themselves (and there is a lot more people in the sphere than you’d think). Normal people just use incel as an insult without knowing what the word means, it’s basically just the new word for creep.
That detective was obviously already familiar with the terms. He was probably like; "God, i got one of the crazy ones in my interrogation room right now. Ugh.".
I grew up heavily bullied and hated by both students and teachers and I never knew why. Still, I don't want to harm anyone. Instead I'm seeing a therapist and they've given me so much good advice that's helped me a lot. I strongly recommend if you are feeling betrayed, alone, hated or whatever- See a therapist. It may take a while to find the right one for you, but when you do, it helps so much.
THIS. In both cases the killers were repeatedly bullied in their childhood. People need to be aware of what bullying could do to kids’ mental health. No kids deserve to be bullied, no matter how “abnormal” ,”awkward “ or “weird” they might be.
The person you’re responding to is basically saying the opposite though bro…. He is saying that he is so great because he was bullied and never wanted to hurt anyone, unlike the subhumans who were bullied bad and have a harder time coping with it.
@@joemamr710 You missed the point of my comment. I'm not claiming to be better than anyone. Simply, I feel if you've been bullied, don't take it out on the world, get help.
No, NOT this. Mental health is like the weather. Just because you have sun, water vapor, and wind all over doesnt mean that you're gonna have clear skies around the world. There are a MILLION other variables that determine how a person will turn out.
@@stevenschnepp576 Because they go into every conversation with the opposite sex with an expectation that they're going to get laid afterwards. It's never about seeing if you're compatible or having a good time outside the bedroom; it's always about doing the deed and anything else is just getting in the way.
I want to be the jerk here and say he wasnt a Serial killer, he was a mass murder. There is a difference. But yes he should not be talking to people like that
Im absolutely devastated that 10 people lost their lives for such an indescribably stupid reason and just as devastated that there are people walking around freely who call themselves involuntary incels and have the same thoughts as this guy.. I'm devastated that these people even exist..
The style in which you are presenting the cases is remarable. Not deadpan, but rather professionally distanced. Giving the victims a voice and a face while trying to figure out the crime suspect´s (or convict´s) motifs. All rounded up by your very down-to-earth storytelling, gestures and apperance. Truly an inspiring channel. You manage to tell the stories of atrocities without glamour, without hyping but with compassion. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Such incredible critical thinking by that officer. Alex minassian wanted to by the hands of that officer, but he didn't get what he wanted. There is no justice for the victims and their families, but they have at least the solace to know he didn't get out easy.
Well Alek was holding his wallet like a gun saying "I got a gun in my pocket". Then proceeded to act like pulling a gun out while still holding his wallet. I'm not a police officer so I'm not trained for that situation, but my feeling of imminent danger wouldnt be at 100%.
I'm autistic and just like him I would make animal sounds, move a lot and be bullied terribly. I'm glad you treated this case with respect, because many people use it to treat some autism traits as inherently bad or a sign of a bad person. Even lack of empathy, which can be very common with autistic people, does not make you a bad person. It means you can´t put yourself in someone else's shoes, but it doesn't mean you can't have compassion for others. This man did what he did not because he's autistic, and hearing his clear understanding of what he did and his lack of remorse, I'm glad he had to face the consequences for his actions.
@@heytigers3104 I´m not sure, honestly I don't think there's a specific "formula" for that. I can't say for sure if anything at all would've prevented his actions, but he defiitely needed help with all of his negative feelings, to find a different outlet without violence
Lmfao the only two options were get killed or get arrested for the perpetrator the cop was just playing his part lol it was up to Alec what happened not him
I can relate to Alec’s frustration. However, I never blamed anyone else but myself for my inadequacies. I can’t keep a job or maintain relationships. I have to seek out jobs that allow me to work in isolation. I can walk into a crowded room. Then everyone will clear a space around me. Then vacate the room. Every since I was a kid it’s been that way. I do bath everyday. I do take care of myself. However, people have branded me a freak. I suppose I am fated to be a lonely old man. Living in a cabin deep in the woods. With a couple of dogs. Oh well, natural selection is cruel but necessary. I’m sure that there are females who can relate to everything I’ve just said. I suppose we call them cat ladies.
Im a woman who's chosen to be single throughout my life, as I am 'aromantic' and 'asexual' I think thats how its called nowadays( I feel bad when I reject guys and cant properly explain lol). But what if you find someone who's a little 'weird' like you, theres someone for everyone. I noticed that my female friends go for people who don't have equilibrium with them, and my male friends do the same- all just base on physical attraction before even seeing if they would be happy with that person. If you start looking at those with whatever niche hobbies you have, and go to things like meetups etc. Youre sure to find someone. Also try not to focus on anyone in the rooms you go into, look aside from people who probably don't even give you a second thought and focus on what you came there for. Same for with work, focus on the job- almost all people have had someone in their job that harrasess or makes them feel outcasted, but if you just walk in and say "I just want money" and do your job, no matter what others say, you're invincible. Sorry this post was long! -btw dogs are the best companions anyways!
I know a woman who is exactly the same. Not a freak- just different. And yes, she is a cat lady. And there’s nothing wrong with her or you or the lives you have. Things just didn’t work the way she had wanted them to. Which is a lot like most people’s lives- shit didn’t work the way I wanted either.
most people at college can use a professor as a reference when applying for a job. Having said that Alec didn’t seem that forward thinking. He never stayed long enough in a position to gain a favourable reference. Very sad for his victims and their families.
@@pandahsykes602 Rather they survive to face justice and rot away in jail, forced to regret their actions, than get their wish fulfilled and get the easy way out Eliott was too much of a coward to face court, but at least Alek will get his commupance
A cop who knows how to do his job is a rare sight, hence the need for those body cameras. But I feel bad for the guy who had to do the interview. At least Officer Ken doesn’t need to that part, all he does is take him in.
@@pandahsykes602 I don’t think the officer knew the full story of what that guy did; they just told him to be on the lookout for a white van traveling on sidewalks, so it’s a bit different from say, the Vegas concert mass shooter.
@@r0de That's disgusting, there's no "justice" in sitting in a jail cell and forced to live, they did unfavourable things, but they deserve eternal peace not a lifetime of slave labor, people like you are the reason why others take their own lives. Also, Elliot was a disturbed person, but he was more of a man than you'll ever be.
@Michael Rosa I was at finch station literally bout to walk to pizza nova there to grab a slice for subway decided I didn't have time so turned back as I did I heard screaming but let's face it you hear all sorts in Toronto. I got down to where I was going and saw what happened on cp24.
I hate it when the defense's argument is mental health issue. There are thousands of people who have depression, autism, etc. but they do not commit murder.
I can agree with that, but it really depends if those disorders heavily affects one's actions or thoughts. People get some sort of treatment for that, but some do not. I'm not a psychiatrist, so I can't really say much. But it really annoyed me with the part when they said autism, because I have autism. Edit: But Alek was fully aware of his actions and therefore deserves to go to prison for his actions.
Believe it or not, there are legitimate mental illnesses that do make it hard or impossible for the suffere to parse reality, or tell right from wrong. Its super rare, but it does happen.
Damn I’m old….when I was young we just went to parties, drank, had conversation and hooked up. I swear the internet has created another species of human.
For most people this works today too. Tho today and then there are/ were always people not really fit and who are having difficulties not only with romantic relationships, but social relations in general. The internet just makes such things more visible and amplifying it. Such lost people who are in a way rejected from society (or at least believe that they are) then have an easier time coincidently stumbling on a delusional but in their state of mind soothing ideology seemingly explaining to them how the world works. It doesnt has to be incel-ideology. Islamic terroist groups also recruit over the internet and there will be probably be numerous of such ideologies created in the future. So what i wanted to say is that humans havent changed, but the medium of internet changes what parts and flaws of human nature and societies we build will be amplified.
@Over It exactly! There have been serial killers around for years who have killed themselves and we have never known their motives because back then there was no social media. Men being frustrated that they can’t get dates is absolutely nothing new.
Exactly Video games 20 hours a day and inattentive parents mix for these internet autists lashing out and hurting innocent people like the cowardly little peons they are.
The most dangerous people are those who don't conform to the societal norms - be it because they don't want to or are unable to. This is exactly the reason I give zero tolerance to all non-conformists, mentally ill people and perverts. It is better to be safe then sorry.
Yes. That's why we need to fix the incel issue. That's why we need to redistribute sex. Nothing else will solve this. More more Elliott and Alec will rise ✊✊✊
And there's so many A-holes out there that don't listen to a word the police say. I can't believe some of these people...Cop pulls out his gun and says freeze and they do everything but! I've found myself thinking well the dude deserves to get shot . Cop tells me to freeze im going to stop not decide nope think I'll take off instead. I gotta laugh at some not afraid of bullets but freak out crying and everything when they turn the K-9 loose.
Not only did I live in Toronto when this happened, but I lived at the intersection (Yonge & Finch) where the first few victims were struck. I was on my way out the door to run some errands when my phone started blowing up with people asking me if I was okay. Had I left a few moments earlier, I likely would’ve been a victim to this man. To say this hits home for me is an understatement. Words cannot express how glad I am that he is rotting in prison.
Kudos to that detective for talking to a murderous psychopath while keeping his cool and acting like it’s a normal conversation even feigning interest and stroking his ego.
@@Dislob I’m aware. My father was a field agent in the FBI. He taught me things no kid should know… But it’s not easy. Lots of investigators struggle to do it. Interviews like this impact the psyche and many interrogators lose their cool.
15:56 is my absolute favorite part. Imagine if ALL suspected criminals, not just murderers and incels, but robbers, scammers, drug dealers… imagine them referencing Pepe, Wojak, Reddit and 4Chan as they are being questioned
Missing a key part of the story here. Alex wanted to die by the police, hence why he faked having a gun. As the police clocked there was no threat, Alek pretty much surrendered himself and then complained about being hurt by being pinned down and cuffed.
Alek Minassian was a friend of mine. We went to the same high school and classroom. I even visited his house every now and then. He never showed signs of being an incel. I didn't even know what an incel was until that van attack. I actually talked to him on the phone a few weeks ago. Edit: 1:14 is actually Niagara Falls, not Toronto. Edit: there are some minor errors in your video like he didn't rampaged through downtown Toronto. This was no where near downtown, this was further north.
He called you from jail? What did you guys talk about? Do you still consider him a “friend?” I always wondered if being an “incel” is simply an excuse for violence? Alek doesn’t seem like he ever tried to get himself a nice girlfriend from the way the stories were told about him on RU-vid. Did he ever legitimately try? A dating site? Do you know him to have gone on dates? I have so many questions. Please don’t feel obligated to answer all or even a single one of them.
It was interesting to hear Minassian use the phrase "True Forced Loneliness". I remember that movement from the late 2000s. We didn't have the term "incel" at the time, so True Forced Loneliness morphed into Incel.
Canadien Cop: This gun looks strange, better not shoot him. American Cop: Bumm, Bumm, Bumm...Is he dead? ...Good, now I can check this strange looking thing in his hand.
@@JuanRanklin or rather the incorrect, and irrational option. these police aren’t trained to panic and open fire. this isn’t America, where even a child can easily get ahold of a gun. and thankfully, because this man wasn’t shot dead on sight, we were able to discover more about how dangerous incel culture is AND he can rot in prison for the rest of his miserable life.
I hate the fact that Alek Minassian murdered ten human beings, but he still gets to live his "happily ever after". I mean, now that he's in jail, I'm sure he's not a virgin anymore.
As a girl living right outside of toronto i should find this really serious, but hearing him refer to himself as "a pepe the frog type" had me cackling
It is a legit cult. Incels, anti fa, vaxxers, antivaxxers, TDS people, MAGA people, megachurches, PETA/greens and so on - all these are legit cults. Every person there thinks that if they don't follow the cult the world's gonna end and that all the people who aren't with them aren't proper people.
This guy went to my rival high school and graduated around the same time I did. The stretch of Yonge St near Finch that he terrorized is an area I pass through daily. I pointed out the memorial plaque placed at Olive Square Park to a friend a few weeks ago. To say this case hits home is an understatement
So weird that he’s talking matter of factly about incel culture to a Senior Detective like it’s a reasonable thing. It actually sounds like he’s recounting a synopsis of a Saturday morning cartoon. Kudos to Senior Detective Rob Thomas. Friendly but effective.
When I saw Korean writing where he was driving, my heart sank a bit. There were 3 Korean victims so i was a bit less shocked but still devastated. No one there deserved to die and the ages are not what matters its the life the person had and the family they leave behind. saying "i completed my mission" by trying to kill 30 people who were just walking around the town is just sad. I see people of all races and age here and I feel equally as bad for their family.. I wish the world did not have things like this in it. Everyone lives their life not thinking they will be killed because its so unlikely. When it happens its just so heartbreaking to see. To anyone who reads this, please try to think about how your actions effect others. No matter what the thing is, just try and understand that there is an action and reaction.
These incel forums need to be monitored somehow by the FBI or something and all these losers need to be locked away. They are a growing threat to women.
id just like to point how fucking amazing kens handling of the situation was, being able to in the heat of the moment discern that alex was bluffing with his wallet and not a real gun and taking a non lethal approach is so refreshing to see as an american
I read about the psychiatric assessment of Alek by an American psychiatrist who asserted that Alek didn’t understand what he was doing in a real world way. The insanity defense (basically) was based around Alek’s “extreme” autism with a “severely distorted” view of the world that was like a form of psychosis. The issue with that whole defense is that he would have to not understand that he was actually killing people, but that was the whole point of what he did according to his police interview. He knew he was killing the “Chads” and that was the whole purpose. The psychiatrist said that the only way he “could make sense of” Alek’s view and explanation of what happened was that he was detached from reality; yet his job wasn’t to “make sense of” Alek’s actions and reasons, it was to assess whether Alek understood what he did. It’s like the psychiatrist couldn’t accept that this damaged man knew *exactly* what he was doing and why. Just because someone is suffering from some sort of psychological condition doesn’t mean that they can’t be warped and evil. Too many people believe that we can’t be critical of damaged people because that’s not being a compassionate and caring person. It’s not cruel or wrong for Alek to face serious consequences for his actions. He forever changed many lives by killing loved ones belonging to families. 😢
