Hell yeah! I’m really glad that Kurzweil is making a comeback. They have to go up against Korg, Roland, and Yamaha. But the K2600 was so far ahead of everyone else. Can’t wait to see what this can do.
I want this in a 76-key semi-weighted version, and I want it like yesterday. My poor K2500S has electrical gremlins, its SCSI drive died, and it had to relinquish its spot as my main controller to my Fantom 7. Speaking of the Fantom, this K2700 has a nearly identical layout, right down to the drum pads on the top deck and the new placement of the wheels. I hugely prefer this over the direction Korg is going with moving everything to the touchscreen. The Nautilus's hardware interface is way too minimal; the whole point of hardware is the sliders and knobs, not to have a tiny PC and software controls built into your keyboard.
The only thing that's not clear to me is: can I make my own chromatic, polyphonic samples? I don't mean one-click samples like for the drum pads. I mean for the keys. Like an Akai S-1000 or a Fairlight. I'm dumbing down my question here. The reason for asking is that so many manufacturers these days think that sampling is for DJs and finger drummers only... keyboard players have been forgotten, regarding sampling.
You´ll see, nothing revolucionary, as it´s common at Kurzweil company last 20 years... And remember what the Korg OASYS offered in 2004!!! PC4 on steroids... Although in nowadays Kurzweil celebrates the 30-th anniversary of V.A.S.T. !
I always think: "man, why the heck they don't use the VAST engine, and a good composer for ALL of their demo?" I mean, they have the money, the contacts, the artists, the whole package.... Such a incipient musical taste demo after demo (except those demo by Jordan Rudess)
@@RenatoPernett I would have to agree with you, I'm tired of the jazz piano/clavs/organs demos, I am yet to hear a serious VAST expose demo which highlights its true power. It has FM and VA built in, yet all I have heard is jazz and classical demos, it's getting long in the tooth. Let's hope with this new found K-series we can see serious demo improvements.
For those of you complaining about the small screen or no touchscreen, Nord has the best hardware piano sounds and they don't have any fancy screens. It is about the sound and I hope this K2700 delivers!
Still no large touch screen to make editing easier? How about the organization of programs? Every other work station has the programs grouped according to category. I love my PC3 but it's not as user friendly as my Kronos.
PC3 hasn't good categorisation. PC4 and K2700 has full category, programs are shown in cateogory, not in number order, if you wish.. It is perfect now! For example you scroll all BRASS only.
@@Milan_Mariscak hello, could you tell me why you prefer diving board over waterfall? In forums I notice people tend to prefer waterfall because of painless palm techniques and a more robust feeling keys in general. I'd like to know the reason for your preference for diving board keys. Is it the weight savings?
@@the80386 Hallo! If I play glizzandos (fast notes/tones from left to right), if I play synth/sax/clari/accordion/organ type sounds, its better with lighter diving board type keyb with empty space on keyb sides...99% of 61 synth keyboards have this type. I play piano/EP during gig < 20%....
Very interesting. Time will tell if this is THE keyboard to take the place of my PC3x. One thing they could easily have done is have a video & mouse port so if you want a larger screen... you add your own.
Exciting and promising! That's going to be my next investment in an instrument in order to complement the KORG KRONOS 2 (61), the AKAI MPC X and two synths from Waldorf. I personally don't need more than this. Great job, Kurzweil!
U might as well sack all those, this thing's not perfect but closer than anyone of them u should use them to complement & have/make it ur hub (controller)U'd have quite the system there (when they eventually ship) Thanx dude
@@angelog.spicolaiii8021 In my opinion, none of the 'boxes' I've mentioned above need to be sacked, once the K2700 will hit the deck. So, based on my personal taste and preferences, that setup will provide all that I personally need.
Will this be like the K2661 and come with all the old Orchestral and Contemporary expansion sounds? I'm just as interested in the 1990s samples as I am the new stuff.
@@EverettDudgeon138...Uh well there's plenty of their previous ones out there to be had very reasonably & all well built to 'It's the Sound' folk's standards thanx dude.
Maybe it is fresher than the FANTOM in some sound regards (VA Synth and natural sounds), especially with VAST and FM. Perhaps the Piano is also even a little bit better than FANTOM. I like 16 Arpeggiators and 16 CC Seqs ready to be triggered. So either Roland finally puts ABM Models into the FANTOM, or I see a big chance that I go for the K2700... (or finally end up buying a Nautilus, ha ha).
Maybe the new Fantom does? I doubt it though?! this thing's gonna run circles around any thing Roland can offer & I'm a Roland guy own a bunch of'em dude.
@@dbefore7165 Kurzweil are not 'everyone else' - Also - the latest trend has been for for 49 keys because people complained they don't have space for another 5 octave keyboard. Kurzweil have always pitched themselves as offering premium products for professionals not bedroom hobbyists.
@@dbefore7165 A simple look across the catalogues demonstrates that is a false assertion on your part. Give me a link to 61 key versions of the Deepmind 12, System 8, OB-6
Does K2kv.3 have a step sequencer? & if so can(or will)it be able to be used with the K2700(via MIDI?) Does this new K2700 have one also or is it just part of the Song Mode function? A definitive prompt answer would be greatly appreciated. Tried to get this question answered on the Kurzweil website but no luck thanx dudes.
I recall K2700 having the same step-by-step editor as the PC3 series have. Don't have the K26 manual at my hand right now but I'll get back to you later.
Does it have the Additive Synthesise part? Like on the k5000.i honestly don't know anything about this Company but There is no Hardware Additive Synthesis on the Market and Phase Distortion Synthesis like the Casio cz and vz series. K5000 sounds are beautiful when I was learning and listening different synth Engine and structure. Synth Company Should Focuses on their invention Yamaha =FM Synthesis Roland = Linear Arithmetic Synthesis and PCM Korg = Wave Sequencing Moog = Subtractive Synthesis and Moduler Arturia = Computer hybrid and Controller Kurzweil PCM with the Additive Synthesis Waldorf = Wavetable Synthesis Davesmith or Sequential Vector Synthesis Casio = Phase Distortion
So it's a PC4 with more memory, some drum pads and a ribbon, right? Don't get me wrong i love Kurzweil and their products but i suppose this will come at a hefty price and i expected a couple of key features. This is more like a Forte "pro" than a sequel to a monster keyboard which was released over 20 years ago. The screen is still tiny for anyone to experiment with VAST and even if they have a wonderful application (which they do), what's the point to own a workstation if you have to plug it on a PC to edit your patches with ease? I love my PC3X but since i got it they have released so many models that have more similarities than differences and are practically indistinguishable, until you check their price.
Including XLR mic input and 48V phantom power is a smart "low-hanging fruit" feature - eliminating need for external mixer and/or phantom power source for those with condenser mics that require it.
I'm totally flashed, this is THE KEYBOARD. To me. I hope the build quality is way better than at the PC4 - but the buttons and controllers in this video suggest NOT to be what I EXPECT by the name KURZWEIL.
Yes, this is Fatar keyboard and better body, higher weight. If you will quality Fatar keyboard > K2700, if you will extremly low weight for gigs > PC4.
@@dwkim7584 No it is not. The PC4 does indeed have a light weight plastic construction, but that is not the same as horrible build quality. That would mean that things are rattling, breaking and getting worn out in no time, which isn't the case at all.
For a small company like Kurzweil; probably yes. It probably would have made the K2700 much too expensive. Even the big players, Korg, Yamaha etc. are still only using relatively simple resistive touch screens with no multi touch. They are great for making the UI easy to navigate but they doesn't do much in terms of real time control.
@@RenatoPernett as a Christian, I couldn't deal with that. I know how good the Montage is....I just love the sound of my Kurzweil PC3K 7...especially the pianos and pads
@@RenatoPernett It's the other way around man?! Montage(same for Motif) was the result of the K2xxx series. Kurz set the bar KRY are still eatin' their dust topped with ketchup (pun intended: playin' catch up IYAME) thanx dude.
Thanks for the interest David. For info on Kurzweil pricing and availability in your area, please contact your nearest distributor - they'll get you taken care of: kurzweil.com/pre-sales/
@@KurzweilMusicSystems- Any chance of getting the answer to this question: Does the K2000Sv.3 have a step sequencer function & if so will it be able to be used in conjunction with this new K2700 (via MIDI or USB?) or is this new unit gonna have one of it's own also or not. A response would be greatly appreciated thanx dude.
Now, if you get one of these and Fatar TP40L turns out inconsistent with random stiff keys, stiffer and lighter zones, please refer to this thread, thank you: gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1353973-graded-spring-zones-fatar-tp40l.html
People think its a workstation, and forget that it can duplicate any Synthesizer sound out there. Ive been stuck in a youtube circle, looking at dll the "analog", Wavetable, bitmask(random mathematical permutations of a sin wave"----a digital wav form ------ just a different shape. nothing new. Anyway im selling my M, there is no reason to keep it. It is great for programming. Someday ill get into programming the Kurz. No need right now. I was all set in getting a monster digital synth like the Waldorf Kyra or Virus. Plus a 1000 midi board. Or a 3rd Wave or Super Gemini. The Kurzweil gives you sounds the other synths dream they could do. I imagine all synth companies never mention Kurzweil. I'll eventually get a fat analog guy someday for ME. in the meantime, the Kurzweil sounds better than good analog. 😅
Marketing Meeting: Ok guys, what’s the budget for marketing this eagerly awaited and highly important product to both our loyal and new customers? Er, enough to make a cheesy video and some library music that was last used on a game show during the 90’s ......that was cancelled. No problem, it will sell itself. Well sir, I have to disagree. Our sources say that Behringer is....... You’re fired!
Comparing kurzweil with behringer? A legendary company with an enviable track record vs a company making unoriginal and tacky disposable gadgets? Try harder.
No, no, no... absolutely to small display in Kurzweil 2700 for such many infos, functions etc. Modern Music Workstation should to have a much bigger display. In my opinion 20 years older Korg Oasys (excluding USB MIDI) has much more functions, e.g. 15" touchscreen display... I'm underlining, this is my opinion. I don't see in Kurzweil any video output to external monitor... or really this item is addressed to working with any DAW. After K2600 and problems with motherboard (many many years ago) Kurzweil starts with a little anachronic technology.
As a gigging instrument,the K2700 with all of it's physical controls,would do well(although Kurzweil really f**ked up,with their placement of the pitch & mod wheel locations.) As a workstation,the K2700 is a joke(just by virtue of the pitifully small display screen.) I never liked the onscreen menu layouts of Kurzweil and trying to create songs will be a very tedious nightmare.This keyboard will almost certainly cost considerably more than the Korg Kronos,so where is the multi-track audio?? Even the Korg Nautilus,is a much better keyboard overall,than the K2700(certainly as a workstation) and as far as live playing goes,the large touchscreen of the Nautilus,is handy in certain aspects of live play.
I would take the many physical controllers on PC4 or K2700 over the touch screen on Nautilus any day. Korg and Yamaha (and I guess also Roland?) are still using old-school resistive touch screens that doesn't support multi touch. This severely limits their use as controllers for live situations, you cannot for example do proper drawbars for organs like you can on the Kurzweil's traditional faders. The sequencer in PC4 (which will probably be the same in K2700) isn't really meant for recording and producing whole songs, but it is perfectly fine for making demos and various backing tracks for live use. I may be wrong, but I don't think the K2700 will be more expensive than Kronos. I wouldn't be surprised to see it priced like the Nautilus.
@@St_Modler It seems clear that you are primarily a live player,so naturally...you lean towards more physical controls.Most everyone prefers physical controls in any situation, but more manual controls, equates to a higher cost.I would never again,buy ANY keyboard,that places the pitch and mod wheels above the key-bed(as this ruins performances for both live & studio musicians.) If the Kurzweil workstation's sequencer isn't meant for recording & producing complete songs(referring to just the instrumental end of things)....then why does Kurzweil have such deep and detailed editing in their sequencers?? My guess is that you never bothered to do any serious fiddling in the sequencer section(if at all)....but Kurzweil workstations have loop-based pattern recording,copy & paste functionality, individual insert effects that can be apply to each track,master effects...etc.,.So essentially,the Kurzweil is a computer DAW(in terms of midi-based recording.) Anyone that I've ever known that owns a Kurzweil workstation keyboard,does not bother using the onboard sequencer and for good reason,because the size of the screen,as well as the onscreen menu layouts are horribly tedious to work with....which begs the question,why in the bloody f**king hell,does Kurzweil even bother including a sequencer,when there is no demand for it,amongst Kurzweil keyboard players?? Perhaps the Kurzweil K2700 will be similarly priced to the Nautilus...but maybe the Kurzweil should be lower in price than the Korg(as the Nautilus is a complete recording studio,whereas the Kurzweil is mainly a live instrument.)
@@HighlandStudio91 I have recorded a few complete tracks on the PC3X. (Basically the same sequencer as PC4). It is indeed not ideal and today I would use a DAW in most cases. But so I would if I had a Nautilus. If a major criteria for a workstation to be succesful is to have a sequencer, a screen and a workflow that seriously competes with modern DAW's, then they are all jokes. Kronos, Nautilus, Fantom, PC4, K2700 - none of them provides anything comparable to DAW-based recording. Touch screens or not. But the sequencer in the Kurzweil's remains an important tool for stuff like recording demos/ideas on the fly and making things happening live. The possibility of triggering sequences using the riff generators provides a powerful way to do all kinds of loops, arrangements and backings tracks without ever needing a laptop. I can't see why Kurzweil shouldn't include a sequencer for such use.
U guys need to the take the time to listen to the complete tracks made by these machines with just using a computer's audio inputs to record (soundcard & no DAW) most notably by oscillator(l'm sure they're others this example is the only one I can think of off hand at the moment) right here on this Ytube we're all commenting on (may or may not be ur bag but this'll show that it can certainly be very well done comprehensively) & get a grip thanx dudes.
The damn board ain’t even out yet, and all I read is straight up bitchin ! Let the damn thing come out first, then go try it out at your local music store or at least listen to the online demos, b4 you call it a failure .
@@the80386 absolutely, it is a viewer and editor of what is going on in the machine, but go use a Kronos and see what a difference it makes having so much info on a decent large screen, besides for us 50+ year old squinting at a small screen is no fun. Doesn’t matter I don’t plan to buy one anyway.
A monster machine, just 10 years late to the party... Imagine this in 2010/2011, as it should have happened... Only chance they have to be a successful product on 2021, would be to sell it at 1000USD. But we all know that will not be considered...
What terrible marketing do they have? Do they only want to sell their devices to old men 70+? In the device plug many great possibilities. This is very embarrassing. The latest product video from July 19th is really terrible. I can't understand it. It's such a great device. A lot of modulation possibilities perfect effects in studio quality, experimental possibilities without end but it is shown like an e piano from the 90s.
I don't understand Kurzweil can't improve the design of its equipment, yes and a well-armed battle tank with a lot of firepower, but they are still ugly for my taste.
It is getting boring.They put for 70% old sounds in it!So why buy a expensive new one if you get it second hands?They set VAST as the ultimate sound engine but I don't hear a lot of new sounds?
Why it actually sucks. 1st there is no Wifi or blue tooth connectivity (they are ten years behind time on that). And who is lacking using wires now days? 2nd, there is no remote access to inputs and out puts via cpu or tablet device (nice to be able to dynamically change things with sound editing software in real-time). 3. 16 pads, what exactly do they do? On their site is says nothing of the possibility of them being a controller for assigning the feature of ribbon strip to a pad, or pitch/modulation wheels, or any of the other functions and features to control any assignment to the pad. No mention on how many assignments can be assigned to a pad. Doesn't even come close to doing anything that a mpc can do. What's the purpose? It would have been a marvel piece had it been about to operate as the MPC does with all the feature on the board with four to ten layers per pad. Not rocket science. If they are going to offer something. Offer something better than what's already on the market. Be a pioneer. Not a follower of treads. Would be great to know what software it's compatible with. Like can you use it with open-source audio and video editing software. Or is it blocked (deliberately designed not to work with open-source software), and or does it come with Kurzweil own audio editing software? The days of a proprietary device controller are over with. If they were smart, they would link with Cakewalk (Bandlabs) and smash the market. Pro-Tools and Logic are dying fast.
Kurzweil, It's the sound. WHERE IS THE SOUND? As others have posted. This is a cheesy video clip. I HEARD NOTHING FROM THE KEYBOARD. I saw a lot of unimpressive specs. I pretty much learned ABSOLUTELY ZERO from this video.
