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Tensions rise as Kandi and Coko disagree on the set list for their big concert. Which group will be the ones to close out the show? Watch full episodes of "SWV & XSCAPE: The Queens of R&B" on the free Bravo app and on Peacock.
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@Asylashai Год назад

Taj is just always happy to be there 😂

@humbled92_Mister Год назад

We love Taj.

@LeloLeeleeRamirez Год назад

That would be me, because this also is promoting them to newer generations if they thought about it. I would be happy just to be there too.

@Asylashai Год назад

@@LeloLeeleeRamirez Exactly 😂🙌🏽

@lovelyrithatsme7050 Год назад

Yes she is....I love her personality ❤️

@happigolucky2076 Год назад

Leelee to she's not bothering no one.

@MyPronounsAreSTFU Год назад

Coko said ALL YALL GETTING ON MY MF NERVES!!!! 😂😂😂 I love her!!!!

@2300VirgoAvenue Год назад

Tiny Harris is absolutely HILARIOUS, I never realized until this series started. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@simonsez1787 Год назад

She said “LED flo’ to bottom!” Lol

@Classicrob95 Год назад

Funny af 😂😂😂😂😂

@mastercyclonia Год назад

I’ve been saying the same thing watching this show, she is hilarious 😭

@thegospeloutlet2000 Год назад

Then y’all turn around “When did they disrespect SWV” 😂🧐

@Missypooh562 Год назад

@@thegospeloutlet2000 they disrespected eacither bye! You heard side comments from both sides

@Hotmamagotdatbomb Год назад

I was so happy when Lelee voiced her opinion.

@florazul5240 Год назад

LeLee will worked them, ALL

@Fourwindsofsuccess Год назад

It’s her group 😂. Lelee founded SWV. She the one who wanted to sing at first but she grew up with Coko in the Bronx, NY. Then they found Taj as a friend they knew in NYC. People don’t know their story because they never watched their reality TV show from 2013. Lelee them defending their legacy that’s why. Xscape are superficial and want to dethrone SWV.

@raajaahrajalterego2607 Год назад

@@florazul5240 lol so true, co co seem like a beast too

@buddhafortune6166 Год назад

Same

@blkprince198 Год назад

Too real 💯

@kenW13 Год назад

“We do.” Takes me out every time🤣.

@mannyhernandez8458 Год назад

Yo I love my home town The Bronx CoKo😁

@urielsmith3248 Год назад

It took me out too I said that d*mn coco but it lowkey kinda makes me wonder maybe the reason why we wasn’t seeing them until now really is possibly bec coco is kinda difficult which really not difficult imo I think kandi should’ve sat with her introduced the guy and they both make a list on paper of what they think the show list should be like and compare if it’s some that’s not going right talk about if they can’t come to a agreement on which number of song they want ask the other members don’t tell them which spot it’s going to be in just have them vote and which eve vote has the most to go in that spot they will put it there and move on idk if that’s to much though

@dehende07 Год назад

I mean every time it takes me up....Coko was like bisssshhhhh please

@kamariatoure42 Год назад

And Kandi was scared to death trembling all over the place

@MusicLover-ti6dt Год назад

“We’re not.”

@deemichelle9517 Год назад

SWV said in an interview that they thought the show was going to be a collaboration like JE and 112 did a few years back. That would have been so dope.... all seven ladies on stage singing each other songs or taking turns to join each grp singing their song. Such a missed opportunity.

@MrsMeekins Год назад

Yessss!

@Arguewityamama Год назад

SWV said that, then ended up being the most uncooperative out of both groups and did the EXACT SAME THING on their LAST REALITY SHOW with Salt n Pepa, that show had to be canceled entirely, because of SWV

@aliveandwell3958 Год назад

@@Arguewityamama Dayum I had no idea about that. I never even knew they had a show with Salt n Peppa. 😬

@nicksaltor7047 Год назад

@@Arguewityamama TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT MY MOUTH!!! They were being difficult af and like Kandi said , “We keep compromising on things we want to give y’all what y’all want but it’s not returned then it becomes well what are we benefitting from this?”

@MKRob Год назад

@@aliveandwell3958 They did have a show but the contentiousness was nothing close to what is happening with this show. They did the show with S n P but struggled to get there because Coko was going through a divorce and didn't really participate in the planning. Also, Salt n Pepa wanted to control the entirety of the show just like Xscape. What I did appreciate was the way the ladies interacted. There was little to no shade/disrespect. Xscape should just tour on their own. They have enough internal problems to not add anyone else. SWV would be better off taking smaller money and venues than deal with all that drama.

@LeeLee-ux8gh Год назад

SWV carried us all through the 90’s Era 👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾

@pool4315 Год назад

I have no idea never heard of them until they did this show with xscape. I only know xscape from kandi.. all the new younger people know kandi and anything she does.

@kmeeks92987 Год назад

It was both but more Xscape for me

@DilemmaBlack Год назад

US? Don't speak for me 😂😂😂

@StephandNia Год назад

@@DilemmaBlack chil for real, it was Xscape for me.

@queenjj201 Год назад

I can remember all of the Xscape songs. I don't know all of SWV songs, and I'm 60yr old. They were good but they were not all that

@ShawnWhitsell Год назад

I love both groups, and from an objective point of view, Weak is a stronger closer than Understanding. It was/is a bigger record. It was an international smash that almost sold more units by itself than almost all Xscape's albums combined.

@Exxtol1 Год назад

Yeah, but SWV wanted to get the first song AND close. That's what you don't see in the editing.

@Alexandrias.Washington Год назад

@@Exxtol1 As they should! Xscape is NOT on SWV’s level by any capacity. I don’t know why they were even set up together on Verzes. Xscape is unpopular outside of Atlanta (the ghetto), and SWV is world-wide famous! SWV should be paired with Envouge or TLC, but not with unknown (outside of the hood/ATL) Xscape! Kandi need to check her ego because that chick CANNOT SING!

@Exxtol1 Год назад

@@Alexandrias.Washington I think the point Xscape was making was that they are more of a draw TODAY. They actually weren't trying to downplay SWV--in fact, SWV has as big of an ego as Xscape. They kept saying it's about the sisterhood, well then why do you need to open and close? That doesn't even sound like co-headlining.

@thunter5265 Год назад

@@Exxtol1 They did not want to open for Xscape, they wanted to co-headline. They would have been cool with Xscape doing it had the comment of Xscape being the headliners not have happened. So ofc they got defensive. Its like u guys are purposely forgetting who threw the first stone. So now when SWV responds to it "they are being difficult"

@jaiwooden2007 Год назад

@T Hunter it's an Atlanta thing, full of delusion.Its a waste of breath even trying to convey facts..Atlanta does delusion friend.

@iluvmyboba Год назад

SWV is the group that shows up to sing. Period. They've found out all of that extra stuff digs into your pocket deeper and deeper. They remind me of New Edition as far as working out the kinks in their group and going forward to seal their legacy drama free. Kudos, Ladies.

@mazwide9400 Год назад

🤣🤣🤣I just love Coko! Kandi always wants to be bossy and in -charge! She met her match.

@Brwnskinn518 3 месяца назад

Boo u just don’t like Kandi, cause that wasn’t even the vibe, she barely said anything

@jermainemayfield7701 27 дней назад

Kandi def met her match in Coko. They all know Coko is the voice of Girl groups ❤

@latyshal.2286 Год назад

I agree with Coko about the set list. There are too many slow songs back to back. He need to redo the set list to not have more than two slow songs back to back. Since which group closes the show is causing so much discord between both groups, SWV and Xscape should be on stage together to do a mash up of their biggest hits "Weak" and "Understanding".

@Kay_Shawty Год назад

Exactly a mash up. I thought it was simple fix. Guess not. 😅

@R_Key_A Год назад

Kandi made that set list lol. Production him for the scene

@DarrylMatthis 11 месяцев назад

They don’t respect Coko’s ear. Her ear for set lists and tempos are AMAZING!

@buddhafortune6166 8 месяцев назад

Yeap

@lydiasterling7898 Год назад

Back story for those who haven’t been watching - Throughout the season coko was on her best behaviour until kandi said the group wanted to end the show with “understanding”…..when we all know “weak” is a bigger and better song, so for those saying she’s difficult she was actually calm and very open ☝🏽👍🏽

@Shrooms-N-Siestas Год назад

Agreed.

@deshawn18 Год назад

Coko is def the problem. There is a mature way to say your peace. Like Tiny said neither one of them is saying nothing no different.

@NOHSAL Год назад

Right!

@marie3503 Год назад

Not to mention it's her song she has the right to put it in any order she wants what if she told Xscape what order to put their songs in

@sheenau9392 Год назад

They both wanted to close with their strongest song. Why wouldn't they both have their best interest at heart?

@Vocalbambiana Год назад

Ain’t no way Xscape was ever bigger than SWV. Even now. And that’s not taking anything away from them. The 90s were just bursting with raw talent and everybody gave us something memorable. But Understanding over Weak? Yeah I just wouldn’t have done the show. Tiny I love ya but LED lights vs Coko voice? Yeah nah ladies we can love y’all separately lol Thanks for trying.

@mimi-422 Год назад

I totally agree with you, 👍👍👍👍👍💖💖💖💖💖💖💯💯💯💯SWV 💖💖💖💖

@demariowright5886 Год назад

Did SWV loose the Verzus battle? 🤔

@alexu5733 Год назад

@@demariowright5886 nope actually fans said SWV won 🏆

@Fourwindsofsuccess Год назад

That’s what their fans told them.

@R_Key_A Год назад

@@demariowright5886 nah SWV won even KANDI, you’re fave said that

@lbennaugh Год назад

Tiny shade was real 😂😂😂 "we don't just get on the stage and sing our songs." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This would've been an epic show. They could've done alternate nights closing. Both groups are phenomenal in their own way.

@AS-eq2qm Год назад

Yeah i didn't like that....

@ms.niecey2953 Год назад

Yes cause they look like strippers

@kmeeks92987 Год назад

That was the first thing that came to my mind but then they would’ve argued about who was closing on which nights 🙄

@babybluepradas1 Год назад

I was thinking the samething as well,

@babybluepradas1 Год назад

U bttr speak a word

@Sweetheartbabez Год назад

I personally think closing on an upbeat song is better but if I had to choose between weak and understanding to close, I would chose weak.

@clarissanickersonfourman Год назад

Why would they want the closing song to be sad and not upbeat LOL

@nnekam6153 Год назад

From what Coko is saying it means she wants them to start with SWV song and end with SWV song which is not right ! No one will accept that !

@Sweetheartbabez Год назад

@@clarissanickersonfourman Exactly. I want to leave there feeling happy & the show should end on a bang.

@can.i.laughthanks8280 Год назад

Swv got bigger records. Xscape lucky to be with them. If we talking about music, they should know better.

@obi.A. Год назад

@@can.i.laughthanks8280 y'all keep coming up with this argument but still don't get it. SWV "had" (

@rashidalivingston9721 Год назад

Once again Kandi has to control EVERYTHING & HATES if someone goes against her. That's why in the confession she shaded Coco, because she now wants the public to not like her because Coco didn't agree with Kandi. They should've let SWV give them a list of what order they want the songs to go in. Escape would've felt disrespected if the roles were reversed.

@R_Key_A Год назад

Exactly!

@BlackGreedy18 8 месяцев назад

WRONG. She said that about Coko because it’s true. How you gonna objectify but when Kandi asked her “what they gone do” Coko replied “Idk” just like the bipolar b**** she is. That’s being difficult.

@kaleenajean 17 дней назад

Bull. It’s business. SWV was literally opening for Xscape for awhile lol the part that wasn’t told. Swv acting brand new. So why be offended now??

@nkosijwara2940 Год назад

I can see why this show was hard to put together. Egos were all over the place. But also the ladies of SWV and the ladies of Xscape approach their show’s differently and handle their group’s business differently and it’s hard to meet in the middle.

@TINABLESS88 Год назад

So over the drama😢

@Beautifulme1976 Год назад

No it's not SWV I'd about just getting paid. While Xscape looking at from both sides.

@hikama.3318 Год назад

That’s why they need to have proper representation. If I were in entertainment I’m not arguing with other acts. That’s what agents and managers are for.

@nkosijwara2940 Год назад

@@TINABLESS88 me too . They’re both iconic girl groups . They don’t need to do this

@nkosijwara2940 Год назад

@@Beautifulme1976 but from I get from this , Xscape has more elements to their shows and are very particular with how production needs to happen , whereas SWV isn’t too particular.

@dominicjones3312 Год назад

I love me some Kandi but I’m on SWV side on this! And Weak is the bigger song to close out in my opinion

@WoundedWarrior2012 Год назад

SWV IS THE BEST!

@CAJUNGUY-zc5rq 2 месяца назад

That's your opinion

@temekarollins6007 Год назад

Tiny's facial expressions, when Lele was talking...priceless. 🤣

@musiclover-cn7tb Год назад

Reminds me of Cherish and 702 arguing on encore.

@fadetablack817 Год назад

@@musiclover-cn7tb oooh chile that was uglyyyyy

@florazul5240 Год назад

Tiny is actually rude and extremely shady

@temekarollins6007 Год назад

@@florazul5240 They all can be, that's why the innocence on Tiny's face was funny.

@kelvinkillings3742 Год назад

@@florazul5240 stfu they are are and she ain’t more than Coco and Latocha. Plus Taj messy running her mouth azz behind the girls back gossiping

@Bloooooooooooppp Год назад

There’s a reason why everyone’s individual careers panned out the way it did.

@melaniethebroker Год назад

AND RYAN THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!! Whew I’m like it’s not about the darn SONGS!!! Omg ITS BUSINESS !!!!! BUSINESS!!!!! I don’t see how folks don’t know this .:… I think Coko has the BEST voice out of all of them but at the end of the day the best voice and best songs Don’t always CREATE LOOOONNNNGGG money. Always remember Coko’s ego and pride broke up her group ( words from all of her group members mouths ). I love all the ladies and the groups though.

@nnekam6153 Год назад

@@melaniethebrokerjust Like Latocha’s ego and pride ! If I was xscape I will never accept Latocha back !

@melaniethebroker Год назад

@@nnekam6153 lol yep but I wouldn’t say never because I believe in grace, mercy, and NEW BOUNDARIES

@aliveandwell3958 Год назад

Whew chile, you ain’t lying 😂😂😂

@_PAIGE94 Год назад

I love both groups but I’m so happy SWV didn’t back down! I’m not here for unnecessary theatrics (Tiny 😂), I’m here to hear some good authentic live singing 🙌🏾 This is why acoustic shows will always be top tier in my eyes 💯

@afrosensei5308 Год назад

Taj said "Ooh!" at 1:43 like "Oh, did I travel back to '93?" 😂😂😂

@aliveandwell3958 Год назад

That part had me cracking up 😂😂😂😂😂

@1212CSmith Год назад

Kandi says, "Will you please show your true colors," but she's showing hers. She's in lockstep with the guy's set list which means, she more than likely created the list. She's a bit devious.

@sharpowell6592 Год назад

@C Morgan…FACTS ON FACTS!

@matthewdar886285 Год назад

She’s pathetic

@toomuchfourU Год назад

Thank you! Say it again!

@smith7388 Год назад

She’s sneaky and instigates

@Fourwindsofsuccess Год назад

She’s sneaky & has a ego. Xscape are sneaky mean girls & narcissists.

@MsShantell10 Год назад

I promise you I never realized how hilarious tiny is 🤣🤣🤣 she kill me every episode

@1212CSmith Год назад

she appeared tacky in this clip considering SWV in their overalls sold more records than Xscape. And, SWV is more respected & loved than Xscape.

@musiclover-cn7tb Год назад

@@1212CSmith lol.

@musiclover-cn7tb Год назад

She's so country it's her voice for me .

@bib2045 Год назад

@@1212CSmith 😂

@BlackGreedy18 8 месяцев назад

@@1212CSmithLol you mad cause she told the truth? If SWV wasn’t already so insecure they wouldn’t have took it to the heart the way that they did.

@janya5454 Год назад

Understanding definitely should be performed before Weak. Weak should close it out because it is the biggest song and because of how the song is.

@davidlink1774 Год назад

I think Coco crazy in real life 😂😂..when she said she seeked help because she was bout to kill someone I think she was serious 😂😂

@Anewday-LoveisLove 24 дня назад

I seriously believe it was her ex husband.

@ashantej7484 Год назад

Team SWV ❤️❤️❤️ Weak is the bigger song period

@sherriewilliams3054 Год назад

But Xscape has a better production. SWV couldn't hold down a whole show by themselves, Xscape can.

@darkmercury_19 Год назад

@@sherriewilliams3054 production? with no music? haahahhahahha

@arkishianorman Год назад

@Sherrie Williams what does that have to do with who has the bigger song?

@kashataylor6430 Год назад

Facts💯

@R_Key_A Год назад

@@sherriewilliams3054 Xscape has yet to do that

@MakeItMakeSensemims Год назад

It’s sad that they couldn’t work it out and tour it together. Egos are being exposed on both sides.

@nathanielthomas4071 Год назад

Not really. One is trying to catch up to the other. So Xcape has a more logical stand point. SWV is going off emotions and ego.

@alexu5733 Год назад

It seems SWV and in this case Coko was just over it by this point. Xscape had drama at the very first meeting. Then Xscape brought up the top billing issue. They also basically said SWV is irrelevant because they don't have as many followers on social media and therefore they can't sell tickets like they do. I'd have a stank attitude too if I was treated that way also. SMH.

@lynnw2953 Год назад

i wonder why people keep referring to "egos" regarding headlining when it's a BUSINESS DISCUSSION. xscape hasn't said anything about how they're "better" than swv, A TOUR IS ABOUT TICKET SALES. it's kinda weird.

@humbled92_Mister Год назад

Facts. Where u located shawty?

@nathanielthomas4071 Год назад

@@alexu5733 Why because you don't like people telling you the truth? They're not lying.

@TheNumeroUno Год назад

Rain from SWV and Softest Place On Earth by Xscape are my favorite songs from both groups. Please ladies agree so you can make history yet again!

@10meme11 Год назад

Sameeeee!!!!❤❤❤❤

@musiclover-cn7tb Год назад

@@10meme11 yessss rain is heavily sampled by this generation chris brown has been on many songs using their samples .

@musiclover-cn7tb Год назад

@@10meme11 Joe did his thing on that song.

@DJShawn1980NYC Год назад

And Latocha did her thing on Softest Place On Earth

@TheNumeroUno Год назад

@@DJShawn1980NYC yes.she did. I wish them all the success and unity on every end

@kharikhy-ree2242 Год назад

Taj is freaking gorgeous 😍

@TheQueenrevolution Год назад

SWV all day every day!

@BABYTRILLTHUGGIN_ Год назад

both groups are great. stop being so divided about the simplest things. create more unity. if we as the fans dont pick sides when it come to celebrites, they would not act so divided

@LeeDfined 3 месяца назад

We're starting with "I'm So Into You" by SWV. "WE'RE NOT." Anything remix. Coko: YUP

@LUVLELEO100 Год назад

SWV LOOKS SO GOOD/AGED GRACEFULLY❤

@Fanny_packk Год назад

This show was suppose a celebration for both groups and the time they put into the industry, so Xscape saying they’re headlining was always going to seem as arrogant. Cause SWV thinking ‘how am I second fiddle in my own celebration?’

@alexu5733 Год назад

100%! common sense right? 😁

@blackgarmentbag7482 Год назад

Coko: “We do”🤣🤣🤣

@astoldbykaycee5122 Год назад

It’s the “We do “ for me lol

@olympusmusic3102 Год назад

I don’t understand how anyone with an ear would thing Understanding should close over Weak. Sonically Weak is stronger as a closing number.

@Fourwindsofsuccess Год назад

Understanding is a depressing song. It’s very low vibrational for me. It doesn’t have that friendly contemporary R&B like SWV. SWV was more friendly upbeat music and not big ballads or slow jams churchy songs.

@soundcheck2k7 Год назад

I grew up in the 90s as a kid and teenager. I remember SWV being bigger with their hits in comparison to Xscape. Not saying Xscape didn't have good music, but in my opinion they were not on the same level as SWV.

@kaleenajean 17 дней назад

False. SWV was literally opening for Xscape for awhile lol the part that wasn’t told. Swv acting brand new. So why be offended now??

@stoney5713 Год назад

What xscape didn’t understand is that they would basing their “reality television fans” with “music fans.”Yes we know tiny and kandi, but it’s from reality television. Most people don’t know the lyrics to their songs, but EVERYONE knows the lyrics for SWV songs. And we know for a fact that SWV sold waaaaaay more records and had waaaaay more accomplishments musically. Xscape is living in the “reality television”fantasy because SWV was a waaaaay more successful group musically. 👀💯🤷🏾‍♀️

@dominicjones3312 Год назад

Exactly what I’ve been saying.. reality tv is the reason why they have more followers not because of there music 💯

@Ty-cx5zj Год назад

Yea their reason wasn't entirely offbase because kandi and tiny are famous however they shouldn't have confused their reality tv fans with xscape fans because those are two different fanbases supporting for two different things.

@donaldtrusclairii8394 Год назад

That's right

@lifeofdrew3182 Год назад

Y’all don’t understand reach xscape sells tickets and their booking is a lot more than swv because Kandi and tiny have built a fan base that actually rides for them in every endeavor they partake in this may be for the fans but business is business shit is not free… and as far as record sales swv did 11.5 and xscape did 9 million accounting to the RIAA

@msyayastewart6336 Год назад

@@lifeofdrew3182 that 11 million with 5 album. And for xscape 9 million was with 3 album. Now if xscape would of did 5 album swv wouldn't be talking numbers.

@TINABLESS88 Год назад

I couldn't be in no group like this. Too much drama 😂

@AYKAY88 Год назад

I like SWV's music better anyway

@JLPerryTV Год назад

@@Girlslikeus89”Their”, not “there”. Also, which SWV are you talking about?! They were fighting and tearing each other up in their past reality show

@kamkam4571 Год назад

💯💯💯

@Angelic_Blue Год назад

Yea but Xscape can sing better then SWV no shade

@sade2576 11 месяцев назад

They are equally the same in music in me.❤

@janya5454 11 месяцев назад

@@Angelic_Bluenah latocha does too many runs😂😂They other ladies sing well (Tamika & Tiny) but Kandi😬Swv sounds better.

@vladimirjackson1272 Год назад

SWV is the headliner!!!!!

@vladimirjackson1272 Год назад

And they look better! Xscape needs to do just that! Besides my girl Kandi, Xscape looks like shyt!

@LADYBEYWEST Год назад

I love Coko I’m sorry 😂

@alexu5733 Год назад

Me too she just has a short fuse for BS and that's okay.😂

@LyricSkye Год назад

I met her when I was a waitress in Atlanta over 20 years ago! She was so kind to me! She loves her fans! Even now on Instagram she hearts my comments and she doesn’t know me, just knows I’m a fan!!!

@adrienne3277 Год назад

I’m with you on Coko direct honesty 😂

@sheritadavis9228 Год назад

Same here😂

@markeetadewberry835 Год назад

Hunni Coko is that NEW YORK... Once you take her there.. Its UP from here on out... Her mind is made up

@supertenor561 Год назад

it's the "We do" for me, lol!!!! Coko & the 4th member of SWV "Coko's EGo" finally woke up. Kandi better go have several seats. It's only right that they have weak as the last song because it's the biggest song by both groups by a long shot. And who wants to end a concert depressed talking about understanding? Wouldn't y'all rather be weak??

@saucyking1 Год назад

Even in the versuz they ended with understanding but it should’ve been weak. After SWV was finished with weak the versuz was over🤷🏾‍♀️. don’t @ me argue with ya mammy. SWV was being humble & tried to be a team player. Y’all can go back to where they did the show ladies night with Salt & peppa. They tried to play in they face too. They was over the disrespect and you can’t blame them. They got hits that stick like grits.

@jaiwooden2007 Год назад

Well said ,their Hits do stick like grits and transcended time and space with the wholesome lyrics.

@saucyking1 Год назад

@@jaiwooden2007 facts!!

@R_Key_A Год назад

Xscape snuck Understanding in

@jermainethomas1570 7 месяцев назад

SWV was saying they want to headline and close the show and Xscape was saying they wanted to headline and close the show...So what's the difference when both groups are saying the exact same thing???

@saucyking1 7 месяцев назад

@@jermainethomas1570 loud and wrong and also it’s old. SWV said they wanted to both co headline. They didn’t want anyone to headline cause it was gonna cause drama.

@speakyapeace4702 Год назад

I feel like both groups could’ve taken this as a learning lesson & learned from each group, but instead they let their EGOS take over & now this mess is what we’re stuck with.

@speakyapeace4702 Год назад

Don’t get me wrong SWV showed their rear tails and I see Ego tripping on both sides. Both groups are phenomenal & again they can learn from each other.

@toomuchfourU Год назад

SWV had no egos

@empressquamina6847 Год назад

Kandi and Tiny had egos now SWV

@adrienne3277 Год назад

I get so weak from laughing at SWV them girls call it like how they see it Taj 😂😂😂 tell on Tamika about Tiny a piano where. Coko 😂😂😂that’s ugly, ooo this is so slow. We do. ❤ it

@Sharon247 Год назад

I can settle the ending song issue, it's unconventional but here it goes, let them both do it, yes both groups on-stage at the end, do a little of weak, then understanding, & back & forth and end it with them all singing & harmonizing something new & sweet at the end! The end!

@adrienne3277 Год назад

Now that is a compromise

@lovelyrithatsme7050 Год назад

Exactly

@latyshal.2286 Год назад

Agreed!

@Arguewityamama Год назад

Sounds good, until you realize how much switching back and forth between those two songs, that don’t sound anything alike, would be a mess. It’s too much and unrealistic

@SirDave Год назад

That would've been Dope. They should've had the show interactive, and asked the fans on the last episode via Social Media. Then again, by that point they were all over it. I think if Xscape hadn't started with the headline approach, things wouldn't have went left. That set the tone and precedent for everything else. It was a Domino effect.

@SunshineKK99 Год назад

What Xscape is failing to realize is that this tour is a joint venture..they should compromise, and then when they go on their own tour, then they can do it your way...

@roxyslay1666 Год назад

Doesn’t the same apply to SWV? And if you have seen the production, SWV looks like an opening act. If they aren’t going to share the cost of production then why would Xscape either down grade their production to match SWV or pay to amplify SWV show and play 2nd? Especially when we wouldn’t be talking about SWV without Kandi and Tiny and their relationship with Mona and Bravo.

@queenjj201 Год назад

SWV is not compromising, so why should Xscape

@alexu5733 Год назад

@@roxyslay1666 the show is called SWV and Xscape Queens of R&B Not Xscape and Friends. So I still don't understand how co headlining was even an issue to begin with. It's celebrating BOTH groups for their contributions to music. Not Xscape trying to be headliners in the celebration and collaborative effort.

@justsaynototv8366 Год назад

What you are failing to realize is that it is ALL about ticket sales. And SWV is not good at selling tickets. Period

@Ty-cx5zj Год назад

@@alexu5733 yea the moment co headlining was a problem for xscape that when the drama started, not swv with coko wanting a different set list.

@tylercooper2311 Год назад

Exscape needs to open up for SWV.. and that’s that

@mikellclark635 Год назад

Well everyone don't agree with you

@tylercooper141 Год назад

SWVs songs are way better than Exscape. Exscape old asses look foolish dancing in little clothes with they 4 kids a piece. Kandi Burruss is the Tyler Perry of whatever industry she is in.. it sells but it’s just not that good 🫢

@LeeDfined Год назад

SWV songs may be better, but they have NEVER headlined an entire tour and Xscape has in 2017 with The Great Xscape Tour which made millions and did sell out. And...SWV opened on that tour for a show or two.

@robertstanley9633 Год назад

ok- respect your elders

@matteinmars Год назад

@@tylercooper141 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@CeliniacForLife Год назад

I love Coko 😂 I've been waiting for her to come out of her bag all season. Kandi and her greed and Tiny and her shade really pissed her off, and I get it.

@Stacey-ki4qc Год назад

Exactly

@queenjj201 Год назад

Coko is getting on my nerves. They are nit all that.

@CeliniacForLife Год назад

@@queenjj201 If by "they," you mean Xscape, then you're correct. They aren't all that. They have disrespected SWV all season.

@meganharwell1446 Год назад

By the look of the name I also get it 🫠 team x scape

@justsaynototv8366 Год назад

BS. Kandi and Tiny are business women who KNOWS how to get their bags. Coco is not a business woman at all. So, I can tell you know NOTHING about business.

@TheFever77 Год назад

Xscape don't even have enough hits to make a full show, SWV have countless well known hits whereas Xscape have 4 at best.

@queenjj201 Год назад

Countless songs that never made the charts. ALL of Xscape songs went platinum.

@archivesunset4214 Год назад

@janicequinn4293 yeah but the difference is we actually know the swv songs and can sing along to them while the xscape are few and between

@alexu5733 Год назад

@@queenjj201 SWV is the only group with a #1 song which is Weak.

@keyshawnsneed9046 4 месяца назад

Tiny: we don't get on stage with overalls. SWV: we gotta change out look. And they did just that.

@MusicLover-ti6dt Год назад

It’s obvious Kandi & Tiny are the issue. They have become very superficial over the years, especially with the reality TV fame. Those are the two with the egos. SWV is calling it how they see it. I love their directness. I love Coko!! People can call her crazy and a problem but she’s just very direct and doesn’t sugar coat. And btw can out sing them ALL!

@Winniegirl85 Год назад

Kandi you love to point out everyones issues but your own. Girl bye

@dejabutler5879 Год назад

I dont know why xscape feels like their more popular than swv music wise. Absolutely not. And kandi saying coco being difficult she’s not, y’all trying to tell them what order their gonna sing THEIR SONGS. Like wth

@skp3715 Год назад

OK. I thought is was just me.

@lexielexie8819 Год назад

SWV still look so good at their age.

@kelsobanks2247 Год назад

I don’t know y’all… I think true behind the scenes and what Xscape was saying / shading got to the ladies of SWV out of their element and they were not willing to come back lmaooooo Coko is over it. Note: It should always end like .. Understanding and then Weak.

@michaelcole4311 Год назад

I love Ms. Coko so much. I love SWV period.

@shaggyajao5685 2 месяца назад

Coko is my favorite in swv!

@princesssheabutter Год назад

The fact is that the show should've ended with Weak instead of Understanding. Why does XSCAPE think that they should automatically close when the crowd really wants to hear Weak.

@humbled92_Mister Год назад

Taj is so funny. 😂😂😂

@sashawalker2602 Год назад

CoCo ain't giving drama at all...she want what she wants.....PERIOD

@HeyyyItsJayyy_ Год назад

The same could be said about Xscape but ppl say they’re the drama. That’s the frustrating part to me

@FitLifeNesha Год назад

It aint just about her, it's a team production and she's yet to compromise

@clarissanickersonfourman Год назад

Its giving she stopped taking her medication halfway through production, but okay 😂

@zaradoe5422 Год назад

@@HeyyyItsJayyy_ But Xscape is drama. Look at the infighting within the group. SWV doesn't have THAT.

@HeyyyItsJayyy_ Год назад

@@zaradoe5422 you must not have seen the multiple reality shows they’ve had before this one. Do your research. They’re no different.

@Shantassticc Год назад

Lele is so real

@whatsnextlex Год назад

I say that they should've made it a 2 night event because, for one, that gives fans more options/opportunity to go(more revenue for them). They could've opened with a fire mashup on both nights (get the crowd hyped) and then rotate/exchange closing sets. One close on one night, and the other closes the next. Idk I'm just a fan of both groups, and I think a major ball was dropped, and a bag was fumbled.🤷🏿‍♀️

@aliveandwell3958 Год назад

But then who would perform first/last? It would still be a debate.

@shoogasweet5847 Год назад

I saw Tiny in an interview and she spoke of the semantics of it all, saying the headliner also helps pay cost of everything aling with the promoters. I believe that's why they feel they should close because of the coinage they spending....

@whatsnextlex Год назад

@aliveandwell3958 The mash up would be the opening, and with the two performances/event they can rotate who follows through after. So, if swv follows through the first day and close, then xscape could be day 2. I hope I made sense with that breakdown😅.

@whatsnextlex Год назад

@shoogasweet5847 ahhhh I see!

@MaleOrderBride Год назад

Team SWV!! They honestly had the more hits in the 90s. XScape only famous again now because Kandi was on "Real Housewives". That's the truth. These Xscape chicks are all bougie and think they the shit. I'd wanna hang with SWV chicks. They seem down-to-earth sharing a Dressing Room.

@kiecutielove2923 Год назад

I love both groups, but SWV is definitely the show stopper and starter..period

@jermainethomas1570 7 месяцев назад

Lee Lee saying they don't care but yet making a big deal out of it😂😂

@vonthedon139 Год назад

She said we not SOLD OUT and stuck up in Holliwood… Kandy and Tiny looking like they felt hit

@Hellurrrrrr Год назад

Xscape really underestimated Swv and their fan base. They thought just because they have a huge social media presence that we all forgot about them. No no heenny. Swv been that group, always has been. We just been waiting on them to arrive!

@R_Key_A Год назад

That part!

@earlantoine1 Год назад

I ❤ COCO. SWV is HIGH QUALITY. 🙌

@ONEPRINCESSHERE Год назад

So Kandi it’s ok for you to “speak on it” but nobody else can 🤷🏽‍♀️

@ladybugbrack2834 Год назад

Exactly!!!!

@Blonde50 Год назад

Facts

@Blonde50 Год назад

Facts

@jessvanna_ Год назад

She can be the only one who’s business savvy as well

@alexu5733 Год назад

Exactly 😂😂

@youngkeys Месяц назад

I love SWV NY attitude when they’re arguing

@youngtoday7651 25 дней назад

My girls, I love em so much!!!

@andreamiller135 Год назад

I agree Weak should end. I feel like both groups should sing both songs at the end.

@nicipooh120 Год назад

Weak is definitely a better song than understanding on the outro to the show..

@pettycrimes6328 Месяц назад

I don't understand why they wouldn't consult with SWV BEFORE they put together the setlist. Kandi's acting like Coko is wrong, but I understand her frustration. You're telling her what's going to happen instead of working with them to create something together.

@Stacey-ki4qc Год назад

I agree they should have did this with TLC ❤ THEY CAME OUT THE SAME TIME AND THE SAME AGE. SWV&TLC.💯💯💞

@Akua_Afafanto Год назад

TLC and SWV would still be nice but SWV STILL WOULDN’T CLOSE THE SHOW!!

@BlackGirlUnsolved Год назад

@John Jones yea I agree tlc/xscape would be better.

@Fourwindsofsuccess Год назад

@@BlackGirlUnsolved Xscape is haters of TLC. Tamika Scott threw nasty shade then pretended like as if she’s being friendly & it’s all about girl power. She asked TLC for a versus but dissed them while wearing Lisa Lopes image on her shirt. They are fake which is why TLC stay far away. TLC them don’t play about their legacy & they also have those real personalities. They don’t wear stage clothes like xscape. Xscape would’ve not have spoke down to TLC like that, TBoz/Chili don’t play nor did left eye about their image/style. They don’t dress over sexual as well or sing about a lot of pick me things. Two different styles. SWV, EnVogue, and TLC is much better their all on the same level commercial success from the 90s, same ages, more authentic, and more mature. Xscape needs to tour alone or don’t tour at all because they’re narcissists who believe they’re better than others but act sneaky with it.

@PhoenixRise0101 Год назад

And SWV should only open for TLC. So TLC can wake the people back up after SWV puts them to sleep.

@Stacey-ki4qc Год назад

@John Jones uhm no

@LeeDfined Год назад

1:47 "Let them do their show." "But nobody said that." Coko: "I'm saying it now..." Xscape: "So the sisterhood is just going out the window?" Coko: "It been going out the window."

@roter13 Год назад

Yes, Coko! Finally she awakens.

@michaelchancley1617 Год назад

Hearing the big difference between hard ATL/Southern accents and Bronx, NY accents and dialect going back and forth is funny.

@truthtorpedo4068 Год назад

I love the NY accents vs Tiny's VERY ATL southern accent. Lol! Man! I low-key love how Tiny speaks. 😂 I don't think it should be an issue is Xscape wants to keep their standards, production level and booking fee high. Anyhoo... Would have loved to see them all on stage together.

@olympusmusic3102 Год назад

“We do.” 😩😂😂

@ManifestDestinee Год назад

Being ignorant when performing doesn't mean your ego should be elevated Xscape. SWV will always be legends in the game...

@dezydream6472 Год назад

Taj is the Cynthia from RHOA. I love her from day one & she never changed.

@thegospeloutlet2000 Год назад

Cynthia and Taj don’t compare 🤣🤣

@jahdeljacobs4652 22 дня назад

Hell no Taj ain’t nothing to play with

@mrskay1674 Год назад

After watching the finale, SWV shuda closee the show out with Weak, bc it's a stronger song than Understanding. Xscape and they're unnecessary egos was the problem the entire time.

@ThatGuyCJ69 29 дней назад

Looooove Coko. “We’re not!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Keterrioun Год назад

Coko don’t play no games!😂😂😂😂

@astuckeygirlproductions926 Год назад

Coko is right about the song placement doesn't have the best order. I think the egos entered the chat and stayed since the word opening and headlining did. It's sad because both groups could be apart of something great. They need a Pattie to bring them to reality like she did Tamar and K Michelle. Got to be able to see the bigger picture both can learn from each other. Swv could definitely show them how to mend for the betterment of the group. And Xscape could have shown some business savvy and production upgrades. I get though production can eat into profit if you're not paid a certain amount.

@hikama.3318 Год назад

Chile Patty would get all they asses together 😂

@astuckeygirlproductions926 Год назад

@@hikama.3318 okay call Auntie Pattie to the carpet. Those older singers do not tolerate the madness..

@clarissanickersonfourman Год назад

Coko needs to focus on her medication.

@sharpowell6592 Год назад

Where there’s TALENT…there’s no need for GIMMICKS!

@astuckeygirlproductions926 Год назад

@@sharpowell6592 if people pay to see you they should get a performance with showmanship and some bells and whistles neither group need a gimmick.

@foxybrown1742 Год назад

"INFLATED" TINY NEEDS TO STOP.

@Therealrockkardash 2 месяца назад

Kandi Said “ I mean we don’t agree w/ that , COKO said “ umm WE DO! I know that’s right.

@cassondrad2280 Год назад

I'm with SWV saving their coins, they're not about all the big production like Xscape. K.I.S. (Keep it Simple) is my moto and more coins in my pocket, less expense to more junk and more set people and less confusion. The more means more: cost, people, time spent

@sharpowell6592 Год назад

Just give me talented musicians and I’ll take care of the special effects my dammed self! If I want fireworks 💥, big screens and triple X gyrations then I can spend my money on THAT and stay at HOME!!!!!! Xscape has NEVER been THAT group…don’t act like we forgot what the late great NOTORIOUS said!😂

@RamboQuellz Год назад

Piano in the dressing room? 😂😂😂

@tynikagrant6995 Год назад

Social media followers doesn't mean ticket sales. Just ask a lot of these artists.

@Arguewityamama Год назад

Singles you sold in the 1900’s (when nobody’s checking for you today) don’t mean shit either

@CallmeQuayZ Год назад

Weak should definitely be last that’s a bigger hit than understanding

@Laynettejohnson1991 Год назад

I’m sorry I know more SWV songs more than Excape

@mannyonfire5237 Год назад

why these girls trying to wake The Coko from the 90s back up lord know when that lady is over it she’s over it

@beth4990 Год назад

Much respect to SWV 👊🏾💞❤️

@lesleys9414 Год назад

When they all sat down at the first meeting everyone was in good spirits until Kandi mentioned about they should headline ….that is when everything went left. This is not SWV’s doing …lets be clear. So much for women empowerment…js

@alexu5733 Год назад

Exactly! everyone seems to ignore this part. These Kandi ride or dies are ridiculous. Well Kandi said it's Business, it's greed and it set the tone for the rest of the show. I don't blame SWV for being annoyed.

@feilatan Год назад

How is it greed? In business you advocate to be paid the best. That is why Kandi is a great business woman.

@alexu5733 Год назад

@@feilatanI'm sorry but I'm not buying the business mess. This show could have made history and the fans would have enjoyed it. Kandi don't give a crap about the fans it's her business aka greed.

@aliveandwell3958 Год назад

@@alexu5733 do you carry that same attitude in your professional life? Do you advocate for yourself when it comes to your salary and benefits? I’m trying to understand the difference…

@alexu5733 Год назад

@@aliveandwell3958I'm just saying Kandi made it very clear she don't give a crap about the fans. This collaborative show would have been great for the fans. For Kandi It's all about her coin aka business or greed whatever. I'm not a public figure and the fans is what makes artists successful in the first place.

@Leoego Год назад

This def falls on Xscape and their “we got more followers” ego. I agree with SWV who didn’t come in with intentions of who opens or closes. Kandi def has a big ego and it’s probably why her and Tocha couldn’t get along. Xscape has an issue with co-headlining, not SWV. Let’s be real, if it wasn’t for RHOA or Tiny show, nobody would be checking for them either in them burlesque outfits they wear on stage!

@Stacey-ki4qc Год назад

Exactly that's what they think because of them having shows and how they dress come on..