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The LARGEST Ship in The Navy Has A GIANT Problem. Today's video will analyze the different technologies that make the Ford-class aircraft carrier so great. But in order to understand that, we will look at why the Navy needed to replace tried-and-true technology in the first place. Despite the great strides made in creating this technology, we will also examine why Ford continues to suffer issues with several of its flagship systems.
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@BeyondFacts
@BeyondFacts 4 месяца назад
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@rvsteve583
@rvsteve583 4 месяца назад
no..................
@icosthop9998
@icosthop9998 4 месяца назад
Read the comments of people who used to be in *"The Service"* . They are saying you have placed many mistakes in this video. 😒
@BrumKid
@BrumKid 4 месяца назад
@@icosthop9998 Not just this video but many others and they always make out American is the best in the world thats why i unsubscribed. This is what they claim:- "Beyond Facts is the channel to unveil all the interesting facts for you. Whether you want to learn about the lifestyle of famous celebrities, how they spend their millions, the most expensive things in the world, secret military technology, money topics and even some of the strangest discoveries - we've got." TOTAL BS.
@samproud6192
@samproud6192 4 месяца назад
A t and t customer service
@grahamvincent3061
@grahamvincent3061 4 месяца назад
🎉😢😢
@thomasheyart7033
@thomasheyart7033 4 месяца назад
Oh B.S.! The USS Roosevelt was resupplied every few days. No ship, especially a CVN could go 5 months solo
@stanleyhatfield
@stanleyhatfield 4 месяца назад
I was going to toss a BS flag on that to. I did two med cruises and a bunch of shakedown cruises on the USS Forrestal in the early 70's, and yes, we had underway replenishment ops on a pretty regular basis.
@tommyd688
@tommyd688 4 месяца назад
Unless the ship can shit its own Jet fuel it was resupplied several times a month. I'm sure it can carry a lot of Jet fuel but those jet's use a butt load of it.
@Bob-yl9rz
@Bob-yl9rz 4 месяца назад
A carrier has a 70 day supply of both dry and cold food in storage. 15-20 years without needing to refuel the reactors. They are more limited on how much aviation fuel and weapons they have available to conduct combat operation in that 70 days. That's the reason at sea resupply is so vital.
@Budlopes
@Budlopes 4 месяца назад
Yeah I was like that’s BS!!!
@metube336
@metube336 4 месяца назад
Nimitz Class Carriers can carry a max load of 3.3M gallons of JP-5 jet fuel and an average 2.6M Gallons onboard (with peacetime replenishments). However, the embarked Air Wing (50-60 Aircraft) can go through the average Nimitz class Carrier's JP-5 storage capacity in about a week at normal peacetime training sortie (cycles). Maybe this is why this website is called "Beyond Facts".
@ronc110
@ronc110 4 месяца назад
No "STEAM" catapaults on the USS G.R. Ford! Magnetic catapaults only.
@gilbertdk
@gilbertdk 4 месяца назад
Right on. I'm sure there is steam somewhere between the Uranium and the Aircraft, when on the catapult, but it's not the catapult.. :-D
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 4 месяца назад
And it's only in writing. Because it doesn't work.
@fkchci681
@fkchci681 4 месяца назад
@@loktom4068 funny, they have been launching aircraft. How do you suppose they are doing that with no catapult?
@jimthurman2571
@jimthurman2571 4 месяца назад
​@@loktom40680090o[ooo9o⁹⁹9⁹😊
@HarriHoll69
@HarriHoll69 4 месяца назад
​ Might want to look that up before commenting so you don't look like a spastic. The EMALs on the CVN-79 are fully operational and this ship is not even done being built yet.
@bartobo
@bartobo 4 месяца назад
This is old news, like about two years ago. The EMLS, AAG issues have long been known with fixes and workarounds in place. There’s always going to be bugs that need correction with new highly complex systems.
@HeinzGuderian_
@HeinzGuderian_ 4 месяца назад
Correct. That's the point of shakedown cruises. New ships don't enter actual service for 6 months or more after being fitted out.
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 4 месяца назад
It would be easier for the rest of the Gerald Ford class carriers. First-of-class type design changes, especially those related to the EMALS, have already been fed back into the construction for the rest of the class.
@FredJones-lo2df
@FredJones-lo2df 4 месяца назад
Probably counter intell for idiots.
@frankdesantis8078
@frankdesantis8078 4 месяца назад
BS. This gives the builders more of our tax money. This carrier is a cash bonanza for the MIC. That’s the goal, our money. Fighting, that.’s the Navy’s problem. Besides, the builders will take more of our money as they try to fix this turkey. Newport News will just keep smiling. Obviously, the Navy accepted this lemon as it was. We will pay for this decision for many more years.
@bruceholtermann9646
@bruceholtermann9646 4 месяца назад
Kind of like MS Windows always upgrading, always some problem. and with no competition innovation stops. Just re-boot the Carrier?
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L 4 месяца назад
Yeah, physics are indeed a problem. New system with bugs? You don't say! Sounds like pretty normal stuff to me. Sounds like a lot of hype in the tag line. 🙄
@peterhall8572
@peterhall8572 4 месяца назад
Salt water Hates Electronics
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L 4 месяца назад
@@peterhall8572 I think it's the other way around. Electronics do not like salt water. Salt water doesn't really care.
@dickgoesinya8173
@dickgoesinya8173 4 месяца назад
the author saw a photo of a ship once. that makes him a expert.
@johngaither9263
@johngaither9263 4 месяца назад
Sounds like Ford Motor Company installing too many new and untried options on their vehicles. Of course you seldom have to deal with MIGS or Sukhoi aircraft in your F-150.
@Gangsta1168
@Gangsta1168 4 месяца назад
These ships are NOTHING more than big coffins in the age of hypersonic nuclear missiles.. 💯💯
@taliskyrim
@taliskyrim 4 месяца назад
i serve on the ford, we out preform the nimitz class in every way
@randywiley66
@randywiley66 4 месяца назад
Cool
@mikejeffries974
@mikejeffries974 4 месяца назад
Out perform by failing where other proceed
@patrickweaver1105
@patrickweaver1105 4 месяца назад
The Nimitz is as good as the Ford at a few not very important things. Pretty much everything else is better on the Ford. That's what fifty years of technological advancement gets you.
@dereklucero5785
@dereklucero5785 4 месяца назад
Tyvm for your service sir 😁👍🇺🇸
@Wyomingchief
@Wyomingchief 4 месяца назад
​@@mikejeffries974keep coping😂😂
@Adam.NavyVet
@Adam.NavyVet 4 месяца назад
A new ship design loaded with lots of new and advanced technology is going to have growing pains. It’s how we advance the level of innovation in engineering and unseen problems will normally emerge. Modifications will be developed and implemented in this hull and all succeeding hulls. This is nothing unusual in is actually planned for. Go Navy. Fly Navy!
@jamesb4789
@jamesb4789 4 месяца назад
8 years of shakedown and debugging and they still fail to meet design spec's is NOT normal. The flaws in critical systems are fundamental and in large part due to contractors with no real experience. GA built ONE (1) EM rollercoaster ride before getting the EMAL contract.
@Gangsta1168
@Gangsta1168 4 месяца назад
Yeah.. Let's keep adding to the $14 trillions debt you owe your GODS.. 💵💵😂😂😂
@Gangsta1168
@Gangsta1168 4 месяца назад
​@@jamesb4789really.. But how many times you VOTED then HOPE for CHANGE?? 😂😂😂
@jss27560
@jss27560 4 месяца назад
@@jamesb4789 beginning with the USS Langley did every new aircraft carrier work perfectly from the beginning or did it take years to resolve what issues were going on?
@normanwyatt8761
@normanwyatt8761 Месяц назад
I fully agree with you. Seeing that we were elected police of the world, the carriers are needed in places where we have no military bases to house our fighter planes. The future will decide whether it was a good idea or not. Our tax money would go down a deep hole anyway, lining the pockets of our politicians and their friends pockets too. They all retire in luxury.
@jonbutcher9805
@jonbutcher9805 4 месяца назад
You should mention that all the vessels around the GRF Aircraft Carrier have a little something to do with how it can maintain operations at sea. Just a little.
@loski1955
@loski1955 4 месяца назад
Doesn't sound like a GIANT problem to me................
@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp
@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp 4 месяца назад
Nothing is a problem compared to the leadership of the country - Pentagon included.
@djprentowalker8878
@djprentowalker8878 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@dewayneblue1834
@dewayneblue1834 4 месяца назад
Wow, this is one of the most poorly informed military videos I've ever seen, and there are some terrible ones out there!
@noahway13
@noahway13 4 месяца назад
Was ai generated.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 4 месяца назад
And, whoever programmed the TTS voice needs a course in Adult Literacy.
@eddiepearl536
@eddiepearl536 4 месяца назад
Bro you need to update your research The Ford is now fully operational and has exceeded daily sortie rate of Nimitz class
@noahway13
@noahway13 4 месяца назад
It was ai generated BS.
@GordMerrick
@GordMerrick 3 месяца назад
@@noahway13 Tales of woe are golden for the media. They don't employ fact checkers, it's bad for business
@joseevsngelista6342
@joseevsngelista6342 4 месяца назад
You are talking normal things. Debugging is always happening. It’s not like a brand new car.
@stevenr8606
@stevenr8606 4 месяца назад
Even brand new cars have problems. Lots of problems. Some are know as TSB (Technical Service Bulletins) which are performed without owners knowledge. 😮
@jamesb4789
@jamesb4789 4 месяца назад
Sorry, but why exactly is 8 long years of "shakedown operations and $6 billion over budget is normal? And they still have not fixed the flaws.
@joseevsngelista6342
@joseevsngelista6342 4 месяца назад
@@jamesb4789 what flaws. I don’t know and you don’t know. After any deployment, preventive maintenance is just normal for any flaws.
@stephenludlum9746
@stephenludlum9746 4 месяца назад
@@jamesb4789 The video is inaccurate, and even after eight years, it is not a fast process to get all the bugs out of that new technology and update it. See, as they work the bugs out, they are still updating that technology. They don't even mention their downtime and problems with the old technology. It was not a perfect system and needed a lot of maintenance. The technology has already shown its advantage over the old technology.
@maj.kennethwithrow8390
@maj.kennethwithrow8390 4 месяца назад
You are so Ill-advised, Ms Informed, with every Inaccurate information it's mirror's your Title. Beyond Facts .
@MultiCconway
@MultiCconway 4 месяца назад
The REAL STORY after the first cruise: In 239 days underway, the ship’s crew conducted 43 underway replenishment, logged more than 17,826 flight hours and 10,396 sorties, sailed more than 83,476 nautical miles, and safely transferred 20.7 million gallons of fuel with zero mishaps. The Ford crew conducted 33,444 flight deck moves, 3,124 hangar bay aircraft moves, 2,883 aircraft elevator moves, 16,351 aircraft fueling evolutions, and transferred 8,850 pallets of cargo and mail. The Gerald R. Ford culinary team prepared and served 3.1 million meals, which included approximately 48,000 dozen eggs, 24,000 gallons of milk, 131,000 hamburgers, 367,000 pounds of chicken, and Gerald R. Ford’s favorite . . . 79,000 chocolate chip cookies. THAT is nothing to sneeze at . . . However, we still do not have a way to continue deck launch operations while working on one of the EMALS launchers.
@paulbade3566
@paulbade3566 4 месяца назад
Wouldn't working on a steam catapult also interrupt launch operations?
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 9 дней назад
So 10,395 sorties / 239 days underway = 44 sorties / day underway. Presumably some days were higher or lower in sorties with a few days having no sorties. Of course, the maximum number of sorties generated in a single day has probably been kept classified. 2018 Congressional Budget Office: "According to the Navy, each of its 10 older Nimitz class carriers can sustain 95 strike sorties per day and, with each aircraft carrying four 2,000-pound bombs, deliver three-quarters of a million pounds of bombs each day."
@johnhoffman8203
@johnhoffman8203 4 месяца назад
Reactors dont make steam, they make hot water fed to a steam generator that makes steam.
@Trance2010de
@Trance2010de 4 месяца назад
@johnhoffman8203 Ok. Because you are so petty, I unfortunately have to react. Unfortunately, you are wrong! Reactors don't make hot water, they produce heat, fed to a water tank, that makes hot water. 🔥😂
@johnhoffman8203
@johnhoffman8203 4 месяца назад
@@Trance2010de I know I am petty, cant help it, I was a Master Chief PETTY Officer, and nuclear trained at that, on 5 subs. I shimmed a lot of control rods in a reactor to make hot water. This hot water is pumped to steam generator tubes conducting this heat to the water surrounding them and returning the cooled water back to the reactor to rinse and repeat. There is a water tank that is electrically heated to make a steam bubble, but that only maintains pressure inside the reactor vessel.
@Trance2010de
@Trance2010de 4 месяца назад
@@johnhoffman8203 😂👍. Yes, you're right. I tried to act like a smartass and described it in even more detailed. Because before the steam comes the heat of the reactor, and then hot water, then steam. Also the electricity you mentioned, is mainly produced by turbines/generators, using the steam.
@johnhoffman8203
@johnhoffman8203 4 месяца назад
@@Trance2010de You have a gross conceptual error about both reactor operational concepts and heat transfer and fluid flow. The primary fluid never comes into direct contact with the secondary system. The only component common to both systems is the steam generators that make steam form both engine turbines and generator turbines.
@Trance2010de
@Trance2010de 4 месяца назад
@@johnhoffman8203 I have not even mentioned or described in more detail, the type of heat exchange or the various water cycles. I also know, how such a system works. Since I also have a certain technical understanding, as a trained electronics engineer with professional experience.
@randydutton1
@randydutton1 4 месяца назад
The F-35B doesn't need a catapult.
@Bob-yl9rz
@Bob-yl9rz 4 месяца назад
The F-35 does need the catapult if it needs to carry anything over the minimum weapons load. Take off vertically is not ideal for combat ops. You would burn a lot of fuel just to take off. Landing vertically would make aircraft turn around quicker though.
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 4 месяца назад
@@Bob-yl9rz F-35B STOVL (Short TakeOff Vertical Landing). Can it even take off vertically if it has any sort of combat load? the USMC F-35B uses no catapult, just a short flat acceleration run off the boat using engine power only. Only the USMC/USN F-35C uses a catapult for launch and arresting wires for recovery as the C is the CATOBAR variant(Catapult Assisted Take Off But Arrested Landing)..
@fkchci681
@fkchci681 4 месяца назад
What about the other aircraft they use? Plus if the F35 is fully loaded, it cannot take off vertically.
@krashd
@krashd 4 месяца назад
@@hoghogwild F-35B requires a ski ramp if carrying a combat load, that's why our two limp biscuit carriers have them.
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 4 месяца назад
@@krashd I didn't realize that you're British. You guys have some pretty amazing capabilities in those ships/aircraft. Yes the US small carriers and the UK Queen Elizabeth Class both launch F-35 from the boat without catapults. The ships both launch an F-35B with 2-1000lb precision bombs and 2 AIM-120 missiles all internal with full expendables, fly 505 nautical miles away then turn around and fly 505nm back to the ship and perform an underway vertical landing profile The difference is that the US Navy ships use a 600ft launch strip whilst the UK carriers use a 450ft strip with a ski jump. Amazing capability for a jump jet aircraft. Current SuperHornet has a strike profile mission radius of 390nm.
@paulhunter1735
@paulhunter1735 4 месяца назад
Beyond Facts is right for this channel or more correctly it should be called you got your facts wrong. The Ford does not have steam catapults, they are magnetic. If you can't even get that info right then just maybe do some videos on basket weaving or something.
@stevemartin7464
@stevemartin7464 4 месяца назад
But they may get those wrong too and then I wouldn't know how to weave a basket.
@paulbade3566
@paulbade3566 4 месяца назад
I think the script writer meant to say that EMALS is used INSTEAD of the steam catapults used on previous carriers.
@hello_its_me.
@hello_its_me. 4 месяца назад
Paul, hopefully you'll get over the mistake.
@paulbade3566
@paulbade3566 4 месяца назад
@@hello_its_me. Nothing for me to get over. However, errors, propaganda, low information density, omissions of pertinent data and outdated material can lower my personal rating of a channel.
@USSNIMITZCVAN68
@USSNIMITZCVAN68 4 месяца назад
I did 90 days on the cargo team instead of galley work as a new crewman. The Nimitz took on supplies such as fuel, weapons and food often. The reactors didn't need refuel, but JP-5 fuel tanks that feed the planes sure do. Plank Owner U.S.S. Nimitz. BOHICA!
@joshshepherd5660
@joshshepherd5660 4 месяца назад
Just wait till you see a C-130 take off from the deck...
@8731GC
@8731GC 4 месяца назад
Lol
@drguffey
@drguffey 4 месяца назад
@@8731GC A C-130 has landed on and taken off from a carrier. The USS Forestall. You can see it here on RU-vid !
@charlesbranch4120
@charlesbranch4120 4 месяца назад
It has been done, and landings, too. (USS Forrestal) YT videos may still be available.
@Wyomingchief
@Wyomingchief 4 месяца назад
​@@charlesbranch4120yeah there's a lot of videos of it. They were able to land come to a complete stop, and then take off from that exact same spot. Pretty damn insane if you think about it
@drguffey
@drguffey 4 месяца назад
@@bushman1492 Simply not practical ! C-130 is too big.
@waltermorris5786
@waltermorris5786 4 месяца назад
Just imagine how smart the Captain must be to understand in a general sense all the depth in that ship and mastering the bridge.
@johnstark4723
@johnstark4723 4 месяца назад
whoever made this video is very uneducated on the USS Ford. The catapult and elevator issues were fixed 2 years ago. There is no carrier afloat that can be at war for 5 months without resupply. The Roosevelt was supplied every couple of days. Actually do research before posting BS!
@EDouble1
@EDouble1 4 месяца назад
"Fatal" design flaws? Foh
@8731GC
@8731GC 4 месяца назад
Haha
@robertstoneking7916
@robertstoneking7916 4 месяца назад
They were at one point. That's why delivery was 18 months late
@EDouble1
@EDouble1 4 месяца назад
@@robertstoneking7916 No, they weren't fatal.
@ExpeditionNomadicAdventures
@ExpeditionNomadicAdventures 4 месяца назад
Government contractors correcting defects yelling Mo money, mo money, mo money!
@brucelownhole
@brucelownhole 4 месяца назад
What is that first graphic displaying? The Ford, no matter how impressive, is not by any metric more powerful than France. What do those bombs even represent?
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 9 дней назад
General Atomics was recently awarded a contract for over $1 billion to "improve" EMALS. I would think the USS Doris Miller will be paused until the new EMALS 2.0 is proven. Considering that the air gap between a stator and moving "rotor" is rather small, and a large ship does flex somewhat, it does not surprise me that frequent adjustment is necessary. The lack of sectionalization of the four catapults is also a bit stunning. Hopefully, the Miller will get it all right.
@bobbrezniak6386
@bobbrezniak6386 4 месяца назад
Lets see....first all new launch and recovery system in 60 years. Power generation more than 6 times previous ship...meaning shes built to accommodate nextgen electromagnetic weapons. Streamlined operating overhead to make sizable reduction in crew size (some reports over 1000). Increased airwing capacity. Basically one of the most complex machines on the planet that "has a few bugs". The Navy is giving CVN 80 the legendary name Enterprise....they have faith in this class
@jamesb4789
@jamesb4789 4 месяца назад
Bugs don't take 8 years to patch. The EMAL and AAG issues are fundamental design flaws that the best efforts of crew and shipyard people can not correct.
@Subdood04
@Subdood04 4 месяца назад
If you want to trust the military industrial complex -and the woke brass in the military, go ahead.
@michaelwilliams2430
@michaelwilliams2430 4 месяца назад
@@jamesb4789 The problems are ALREADY fixed.
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 4 месяца назад
​@@jamesb4789 your 'current events/facts' are dated.
@fkchci681
@fkchci681 4 месяца назад
@@jamesb4789 you do realize most of the info in this video is old, don't you?
@MrScottr1958
@MrScottr1958 4 месяца назад
Have they tried unplugging it then plugging it back in?
@frutt5k
@frutt5k 4 месяца назад
They omitted the expensive plug and hardwired it. What on earth could go wrong?
@krashd
@krashd 4 месяца назад
Is that you, Roy?
@larrym2434
@larrym2434 4 месяца назад
The extension cord isn't long enough.
@davedixon2068
@davedixon2068 4 месяца назад
I saw an article in an aviation magazine about 3 pages long going into detail of all the problems with a new aircraft coming into navy service and how bad it was with lots of faults showing up, this was around the time the F18 was just entering service so people reading immediately thought it was about the recently released problems with that aircraft, however when you reached the end of the article they explained that it was taken from the into service report on the F4 Phantom, and was being used to indicate that even the best machinery often starts with problems that need fixing
@TCBElvisAPresley
@TCBElvisAPresley 4 месяца назад
My little pee-brain was immediately wondering, "do we have our smartest brains working on these problems? You know, our top-tier brainiacs who can often be found loitering around places like Harvard or MIT? I'm sure they have them on all of this, right? If I was President, I'd round up our top of the line engineers and physicists for Manhattan Project 2.0. And as I'm turning the key to lock the door, I'd say "don't worry, folks, I'll let you out just a soon as you guys and gals knock out these little issues our people are about to present to you! Thank you for your patriotism and loyalty! And don't forget to have fun! "
@oldschoolfoil2365
@oldschoolfoil2365 4 месяца назад
Some truths in your comment
@WardenWolf
@WardenWolf 4 месяца назад
Sensors failing? That's something that's fairly easily fixed by the manufacturer usually. It sounds like overall it's good, just has some minor kinks left which nonetheless don't have a severe impact on performance since parts can be replaced much more easily.
@paulbade3566
@paulbade3566 4 месяца назад
I'd bet it's something unanticipated like steel capacitor leads being bent by the electromagnets. That would crack the seals or attachments in the capacitors, or wear out the solder connections. Since almost all capacitors with wire leads use steel wire, the fix will be expensive since the parts would no longer be off-the-shelf. This will lead to some Congress critter grandstanding about paying $30 for a part that usually costs less than $2.
@marvinbanka7592
@marvinbanka7592 4 месяца назад
The Ford would not be deployed unless it was ready.
@alanreynoldson3913
@alanreynoldson3913 3 месяца назад
Not to mention potential laser weapons that require tremendous amounts of electricity.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 4 месяца назад
Whoever programmed this TTS voice needs a course in Adult Literacy.
@raywhitehead730
@raywhitehead730 4 месяца назад
The claimed number of "traps" for the Ford over an 8 month cruise is Nowhere near a record, even though it has more planes. The Nimitz, in its 2002/3 cruise had over 11,000! And I am not sure what a record is for a carrier cruise.. For years Navy Brass hid the deep problems that the Ford had. I bet they Still are. Other classes of aircraft carriers have been started with far less problems. Carriers I have been on: Enterprise, Roosevelt, Lexington, Midway. And Yes, that Lexington Was in WW2. CV16.
@marktheaardvark7208
@marktheaardvark7208 4 месяца назад
No big deal, Every new weapon system is basically obsolete as soon or shortly after it’s deployment, The hope is that the advancements are good enough to keep the weapon relevant for long enough until the next generation comes along,
@markoconnell804
@markoconnell804 4 месяца назад
2:45 the F-35B can and does do that.
@billt6116
@billt6116 4 месяца назад
I remember sitting at Port Orchard across the Bay from Bremerton Washington, Watching them test the "cats" During an upgrade to the now decommissioned constellation. The waited carts would cause a splash higher than the Ship's superstructure. An observing aircraft was almost splashed out of the sky!
@denisethorbjornsen7493
@denisethorbjornsen7493 4 месяца назад
We don't want the enemy knowing what is on our aircraft carriers
@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp
@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp 4 месяца назад
Tell that to Mark Milley. He called the Chinese every time Trump made a move that could get them into trouble. And he is still there.
@fredcarr3550
@fredcarr3550 4 месяца назад
A basis tenor is:if it ain't broken, don't try to fix it. All these new systems installed in this carrier, had suppliers and lobbyists who, probably made donations to the politicians and in turn they then pushed for the Navy to purchase same. That the new systems wouldn't work as promised, were not really considered by those benefitting from the acquisitions. Is there any difference between them and those whom it is said, stole from Russia's defence programs?
@joejaenisch5839
@joejaenisch5839 4 месяца назад
And why would you tell everyone about those flaws
@fkchci681
@fkchci681 4 месяца назад
When a new ship of even a tried and proved design is first launched, it will have issues.
@jamesb4789
@jamesb4789 4 месяца назад
The have been operating he carrier for 8 years and they can not fix the major issues. There are serious design flaws.
@fkchci681
@fkchci681 4 месяца назад
@@jamesb4789 funny, they have only had possession of it for 7 years.
@flotsamike
@flotsamike 3 месяца назад
There was no mention of the problem with the weapons elevators. The launch rate of the Gerald R Ford would be a more meaningful number if you compared it with what A Nimitz class carrier had done in the same 8 months. Also no mention that we bought two more of this class of carrier and one is being built even though the issues haven't been resolved yet.
@narref04
@narref04 4 месяца назад
This is "Americas Secret Weapon"??? Theres NOTHING SECRET about this giant ship!
@raywhitehead730
@raywhitehead730 2 месяца назад
About being at sea and operating continuously. That record goes to the British. In the very early 1800's the British had ships operating at sea continuously for as long as 5 years. That's right, 5 years.
@theconchonetwork498
@theconchonetwork498 Месяц назад
I think what they mean by operating continuously meaning they did not make landfall to resupply, obviously this wouldn't apply to the British in the 1800s
@danhextor7436
@danhextor7436 3 месяца назад
Mechanical rule 1: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@jamesb4789
@jamesb4789 4 месяца назад
Actually, the issues are real and would have a real impact on combat capability. The Weapons elevators as installed were junk. The Navy had to build a special facility in the Philadelphia Navy Yard to redesign and make major modifications for each elevators. Of the original 11, only 3 functioned at the minimum requirement. The original elevators have been removed one by one. The AAG in the original ship spec called for 4 wires for combat redundancy. Pentagon Brass sided with the contractor and went with 3, but the Navy was able to provide for installing a 4th system and it will be installed at an overhaul. the lack of the forth wire has lead to delays in landings while crews rush to get the wires set up. As the crew gained experience, the landings between failures rose but are far below the Nimitz class. EMALS was a wonderful toy for the top Brass and has been a very poor performer. The EMALS have NEVER hit their launches between failures and are still far below the Nimitz class . Worse, the EMALS design requires ALL 4 catapults be brought down to work on a damaged or failed unit since the can not be isolated. In combat that would mean simply ignoring the failed cat until operations allowed enough time to halt air operations. The numbers are better than 2 years ago but far below spec. All three of these systems were designed by General Atomic I believe. Correct me if I am in error. The company had ZERO carrier experience and little experience on any combat vessels. They were given the contracts by the politicians in the Pentagon for political reason. The Navy's preferred supplier was a regular adn understood ships an their systems. And they were the low bid. But somehow the Obama White House pushed GA. Do you think it was because their largest stock holder was a major fund raiser for Obama??? the Ford has come in at least $ 6 Billion over budget and it will take a lot more cash to fix. The Navy has been forced to delay a lot of new ships and stretch out overhauls to scrape up the cash. The worst part is the Ford was supposed to be have double the reliability fo the Nimitz class but is struggling to hit the Nimitz minimums. The Ford's deployment last year was primarily an extended shakedown cruise to figure out solutions away for prying eyes. Ford is the least effective carrier listed as read for duty and there is no end in sight. People leaving comment fail to remember that this ship has been in the water and a mess since 2016. WE are now hitting 8 years of debugging and shakedown with hopes of a resolution any time soon . And many of the known design flaws were carried over to JFK. A large number of design changes were made for Enterprise so there is hope for the class, but the Ford remains a vast money pit and I am afraid JFK will be too until the rotten designs are replaced.
@Subdood04
@Subdood04 4 месяца назад
Yep. Well said.
@jcak552
@jcak552 4 месяца назад
I think you have the Kennedy and Nimitz stats backwards at 0:19
@WTH1812
@WTH1812 4 месяца назад
Upgrades in technology always have as many bugs as a cicada swarm. But without upgrades, the flaws and deficiencies of current tech become exposed and exploitable over time.
@pearsonfrank
@pearsonfrank 3 месяца назад
A couple of relatively cheap stealth UAVs and UUAVs with hypersonic missiles would cripple this expensive show boat.
@brucerines
@brucerines 4 месяца назад
The Ford is a very expensive ship to build and operate. As such I believe that manufacturers should step up to the plate and carry through with their products to ensure utmost reliability. The United States Navy has always been a world leader. This is a great nation that will continue to be a world leader.
@LeeHarris
@LeeHarris 4 месяца назад
that is one giant sitting duck
@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp
@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp 4 месяца назад
Are you talking about Mark Milley?
@djprentowalker8878
@djprentowalker8878 4 месяца назад
Lol😂
@ScoutSniper3124
@ScoutSniper3124 4 месяца назад
Loving that M-14 line throwing gun. 1:16
@alanwright7819
@alanwright7819 4 месяца назад
Gee, who would have thought that an aircraft carrier named after Gerald Ford would be prone to stumbling? 🤔
@77space-vt8wi
@77space-vt8wi 4 месяца назад
Basically what we have here is click bate.
@ericstyles3724
@ericstyles3724 4 месяца назад
11 Aircraft Carriers & no Health Care.. The United States of Spartan Inequity.
@Cheesesteak70-d1v
@Cheesesteak70-d1v 4 месяца назад
It’s a little scary how they named it after the clumsiest president ever you wonder why it has issues
@PostalWorker14
@PostalWorker14 4 месяца назад
Who was never elected vice president but appointed and became president by default almost assassinated twice by women
@davidtennien39
@davidtennien39 4 месяца назад
Ckick bait, the Uss Gerald R Ford has been on deployment for ayear now with no issues.
@danielmainville5612
@danielmainville5612 4 месяца назад
Just like the battle ships 100 years ago became obsolete ,these big floating target are now obsolete . Concentrating so much military asset was an issue that was debated 50 years ago , and now with the development hypersonique missile I dont think they will be build anymore .
@ffwest12
@ffwest12 Месяц назад
The Ford was pushed into production long Before the brand new systems were fully tested and vetted. Elevators, arresting gear and catapults cause millions upon millions in cost overruns, because of the systems not being fully vetted. It also caused this birdfarm from being able to deploy until way after she was commissioned. Normally a ship before it can be commissioned, it must pass builder trials and then pass acceptance trials. Only then are they "Normally" ready to be commissioned and PLACED INTO ACTIVE SERVICE. Because of delay after delay problem after problem they allow this POS to be commissioned without being able to Deploy. I find it interesting that the cost overruns mandated only 3 AAG's. This whole fiasco was pushed through by Politicians that have no idea what they were wanting done. This has become the norm in DC. Another case is the Zumwalt Destroyer. Again tons of equipment that was not fully tested causing cost overruns ended up costing the whole class to be built and the decision not to manufacture the ammunition for the main deck guns.
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 9 дней назад
There is something to say about land-based system models. The Burkes have been well served by this. EMALS may have required nothing less than a pared down test ship that would work out what rough seas might do to the system. General Atomics recently received a $1 billion contract to "improve" EMALS.
@ryanside9117
@ryanside9117 4 месяца назад
I’m glad I checked the comments at the start of the video.✌️
@raywells2858
@raywells2858 4 месяца назад
The "Bomb Farm" is located normally behind the Island starboard side somewhere to afford its safety and for ready issue. What you referred to as the Bomb Farm here is the magazines storage areas and assembly areas. I spent 21 years as a Ships Company Aviation Ordnanceman and was an instructor to teach that NEC at Namtragrudet 4033 North Island Ca.
@PeterLee-zn3jl
@PeterLee-zn3jl 4 месяца назад
Alarming TAG LINE IS BUNKO.. NEXT...?
@charleswesley9907
@charleswesley9907 4 месяца назад
Electric Launch and electric elevators were a big payoff scheme that will never work.The only way to fix it is to have steam catapults and elevators .
@willdsm08
@willdsm08 4 месяца назад
The Ford is first in class. This means it will be used to troubleshoot and fix problems before, and as, the next in class are being built and trialed. Every new weapons system needs to be used and abused in order to find out what breaks. All of this is standard and expected for the first ship in a new class.
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 9 дней назад
Many systems can be proven in land-based labs. New systems for the Burkes get tested out thoroughly on land before being implemented at sea. $13 billion is too much for a test ship. Something like EMALS could work fine on land with a launch now and then. It needed to be pushed hard in a land lab, and then tested after and in rough seas on a pared down test ship.
@Shipspotting_Vietnam
@Shipspotting_Vietnam 4 месяца назад
The problem might be already fixed!
@jyvben1520
@jyvben1520 4 месяца назад
yeah, hey comms signal the enemy to pause actions while we call a contractor to repair ... expected downtime about a week but the submarine depth charge system looks good, must remember to reverse the ship as not to blow up the bow !
@johnseah5678
@johnseah5678 4 месяца назад
What is the probability that the Fujian will NOT be severely handicapped by these 2 problems (electromagnetic catapult and advanced arresting cable system) that have plagued the USS Gerald Ford?
@davedixon2068
@davedixon2068 4 месяца назад
they just have to fix the cracks in the Fujian's deck
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 9 дней назад
If they bought or stole the original plans . . .
@johnseah5678
@johnseah5678 8 дней назад
@@timtrewyn453 That's the WRONG answer. If the Chinese copied the US design, they would run into the same problems as the USS Gerard Ford!! By the way, the various problems plaguing the Ford have not all been solved yet, as the design of Ford's EMALS catapult system seems sub-optimal.
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 8 дней назад
@@johnseah5678 General Atomics was recently awarded another $1 billion to "improve" EMALS.
@johnseah5678
@johnseah5678 7 дней назад
Fujian's electromagnetic catapults were tested successfully during the recent 4th sea trials, launching both J-15 fighters and KJ-600 (the Chinese equivalent of the Grumman E-2 Hawkeye). The PLAN took only a few months to test and demonstrate the reliability of their version of EMALS compared a few years by the USN. The Chinese version uses DC power instead of the AC power used on the Ford. If any of the 4 catapults on the Ford develops a problem, all 4 catapults have to be shutdown to fix the problem. But on the Fujian, any problem affecting one catapult can be fixed by isolating that faulty catapult without having to shut down other catapults. The Chinese design is clearly superior and works from the get-go.
@rolop847
@rolop847 4 месяца назад
It's not steam launch it is electric launch
@Jonasbarbury
@Jonasbarbury Месяц назад
Can you imagine the problems China's having
@poowg2657
@poowg2657 4 месяца назад
It's called FITTING OUT for a reason. This is the period where all of the bugs in the sytems are identified and corrected. BTW, the ships are resupplied daily for critical parts and weekly or monthly for fuel and commestibles. Get your facts right before posting. The EMF cats have been working as designed.
@jamesb4789
@jamesb4789 4 месяца назад
Ford has been "fitting out" for 8 long years and the fundamental problems are not going away.
@protorhinocerator142
@protorhinocerator142 4 месяца назад
It's almost disingenuous to compare 90 aircraft on a Ford CVN to 90 aircraft in another country's air force. The US military uses force multipliers that enhance effectiveness, sometimes by 20x or more. You can't always see the difference, but the results on the battlefield make the point clear. If carrier jets use only three force multipliers at 20x each, that makes the jets about 8000x better than they appear. This reduces the enemy's chances to luck in order to shoot down an American fighter jet. Either that or cockiness. American commanders are well aware of these force multipliers and might send the jets on a mission that's 500x more dangerous. Sometimes you gotta. The US military typically operates on a much higher level than other countries can comprehend, let alone match. 90 jet fighters on the USS Ford could dismantle an enemy's navy in one day. The overmatch is that great.
@steve25782
@steve25782 4 месяца назад
These aren't critical design flaws; It's just predictable debugging of radically new systems. Give the Ford a year or two to get the bugs out and get the crew trained. :-)
@skenzyme81
@skenzyme81 4 месяца назад
Behold, the USS Drone Magnet. Sure, the carrier group can shoot down 100 cheap drones. Can it shoot down 10,000?
@rexbentley8332
@rexbentley8332 Месяц назад
When diplomacy fails? That's just the last step in diplomacy, often times I think it should be the first step. C1As could do a deck run to launch but why I don't know.
@aquariuswithfire
@aquariuswithfire 4 месяца назад
Did the magnets get wet? LOL
@BjarneLinetsky
@BjarneLinetsky 28 дней назад
Everybody knows you never buy the first run of a new radical design.....You wait until the bugs have been worked out and then buy the second generation.
@terminusest5902
@terminusest5902 4 месяца назад
Marine F-35Bs can launch from US carriers without catapults. Just to be pedantic. It is possible the Navies F-35Cs could operate without catapults but with significant disadvantages. Using a larger portion of the deck, carrying less fuel and bombs. To be even more pedantic. Super Hornets may also have this capability. And would likely require full afterburners. B-25 bombers did so during WW2 with shorter decks, no catapults and far less power. Catapults remain a very important advantage. Future carriers should be built to carry either steam or electric drives until the electric drives are proven. And more or larger bomb elevators added. They could even have steam power from the reactors. Or more batteries. Which could be used as counterweights.
@CynthiaRoberts-ii1tl
@CynthiaRoberts-ii1tl 3 месяца назад
Hyper-sonic missiles made carriers obsolete.
@paladin0654
@paladin0654 4 месяца назад
Sources for this?
@alanrobinson4318
@alanrobinson4318 4 месяца назад
Would an EMP blast cripple those systems ??? If so, then an analog version, unaffected by EMP, would be the most advantages.
@MordaxTenebre
@MordaxTenebre 4 месяца назад
you do know that she's a test bed ship, like the last Enterprise was for the Nimitz class.
@drjdsjr
@drjdsjr 4 месяца назад
That's "can not be overstated."
@billdouglas2936
@billdouglas2936 4 месяца назад
The battleships became obsolete when the carriers came into their own. The carriers will become obsolete as anti-ship missles become much more effective.
@bobmorgan1575
@bobmorgan1575 4 месяца назад
Every new innovation in weaponry breeds a new countermeasure for it.
@peterhall8572
@peterhall8572 4 месяца назад
A steam cat can be fixed with a wrench and a hammer, Electronic stuff doesnt do well when exposed to a sea water environment
@nidgem7171
@nidgem7171 4 месяца назад
Those little red rectangular drones (series around 6.00 / 6.40) are terribly unreliable They were flung off the catapult well enough but none of them continued into controlled flight Seems a bit shoddy if we're being honest about things
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 9 дней назад
Did they ever catapult 45 drones in a day and then sustain that for months?
@rcstl8815
@rcstl8815 4 месяца назад
Just like staged AC and heating, all that happens is increased cost and expensive repairs. An Aircraft carrier has one job; launch and recover aircraft. If one carrier is not fast enough, there are ten more available. All this tech is just feathers in a flags hat.
@feloniouscraphammer
@feloniouscraphammer 4 месяца назад
The JFK had a bent screw, never caused a problem.
@charletonzimmerman4205
@charletonzimmerman4205 4 месяца назад
Except @ above 18 knots the stern would start to bounce a little, or didn't you notice ? served 1980-81' .
@feloniouscraphammer
@feloniouscraphammer 4 месяца назад
@@charletonzimmerman4205The only time I noticed it was during carrier quals.(high speed) Never felt it during deployment. 93-98
@Learn_French_in_Arabic
@Learn_French_in_Arabic 4 месяца назад
No wearies, The Houthies will destroy this gadget very soon .
@BSGNZ
@BSGNZ 4 месяца назад
I'm one minute in,, and I'm going to guess the electric catapults are one of the issues...
@rpsellers
@rpsellers 4 месяца назад
Major factual fail. USS Ford does NOT use steam catapults.
@kiwikeith7633
@kiwikeith7633 4 месяца назад
Taking your first words to task - USA does not do DIPLOMACY. USA points a gun, a rocket, gun-ships, NGO's for Regime change to countries ( even elected democracies ) to install rulers who serve the USA at the expense of citizens. Nowhere in USA's geopolitics does DIPLOMACY happen.
@JohnnyLingle-zw4hi
@JohnnyLingle-zw4hi 4 месяца назад
Can the tax payers get a refund
@kierynhutton
@kierynhutton 4 месяца назад
Simple answer… no.
@richardloewen7177
@richardloewen7177 4 месяца назад
I got an intimation of these problems years ago. I saw a documentary on design discussion in this ship, which showed disturbing mindset-revealing planning re the washrooms. Old-school planning is to build different-style washrooms for men and women. With urinals (men's washrooms), there are at least 4 advantages. #1 More units per washroom, since urinals can be more closely spaced than toilet cubicles. More people get cycled through faster😮, freeing people up for urgent ops. #2 Less time (in urination) at the urinals vs. doing so in a toilet cubicle. Further speeding throughput. #3 less spill mess, and less smell. #4 better hygiene (health!) and improved morale. Thus, old-school-- the increased cost of dedicated washtooms, front-loaded in budget (as construction costs), leads to multiple operational dividends (and reduced costs). The right way to do it. BUT, done in self-congratulatory (over-confident) tone, the documented discussion of "improved" and "more scientific" washroom design on this new ship--toilet cubicles only--let the design costs go down, but at the price of increased operational costs and headaches. The planners wanted themselves to look good, while not caring a fig sbout downstream headaches. Seeing this, I thought, "Oh, boy!" AND "What will be the results of this design philosophy on the other systems in this ship?" The present documentary shows further negative consequences.
@stephenhoward6829
@stephenhoward6829 4 месяца назад
"Secret weapon"??? Hardly a secret if it is being openly discussed in EVERY form of media. A touch of hyperbole? As to problems, any 1st-of-type will have problems, and you find out about the problems by operating the equipment.
@SolarWraith
@SolarWraith 4 месяца назад
The Ford class seems to be doing just fine. The new JFK and Enterprise are being built, and lessons learned from the lead ship's growing pains will be integrated into those new hulls, rinse-repeat.
@oldschoolfoil2365
@oldschoolfoil2365 4 месяца назад
Now we living in times of a world coalition lockstep machines of war are redundant Or one would think. Hmmmm. this engineering feats could be used to propagate the meek and go forth growing gardens. Hmmmm
@fredbalster3100
@fredbalster3100 4 месяца назад
Best comments by knowledgeable people.😯😯😯😯😯
@louisstyrzo4944
@louisstyrzo4944 4 месяца назад
I love these people that broadcast their weapons system how the motor runs giving away weaknesses or top secret stuff that people should know but they love doing that so they are more spies to the United States people
@fukenbiker
@fukenbiker 4 месяца назад
Back in the days of the USSR the granit anti-ship missile was developed. These supersonic inertia guided armored missiles carry 500 kilo ton thermonuclear warheads and can be launched individually or in swarms from submarines. Aircraft carriers are just a giant floating coffin.
@mogeking56
@mogeking56 4 месяца назад
No bathroom every sailor has to urinate and poop 💩 off the side of the ship every hour every day
@jacobdugan4305
@jacobdugan4305 4 месяца назад
You are using the wrong type of catapults and arresting gear on the Ford carriers.
@oliverwh5350
@oliverwh5350 4 месяца назад
0:20, true 1:50, true. Beyond fact.
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