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The LAST Ball Toss Lesson You Ever Need To Watch 

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The tennis serve toss has always been a controversial topic in the tennis community. In today's video, we have a complete in-depth analysis of everything you need to know on the serve toss all the way from how to hold the ball with your fingers to drills to improve consistency on your toss. We hope you enjoy it!
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@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
My interview with Aryna Sabalenka’s Coach: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9vv5PRdQgC0.htmlsi=QXTH42_JgczO8dcF
@fmtien
@fmtien 6 месяцев назад
The best, most comprehensive instruction video on the ball toss! Thank you for taking the time to produce this.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
You are welcome! Thanks for the great feedback, and hope you are benefitting from other content here on the channel! Best, John
@user-ou9se4jg6k
@user-ou9se4jg6k День назад
This video was extremely helpful and has helped me improve my serve with which I was struggling. Great insight into importance of the mechanics of the Ball toss! Thank-you!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 15 часов назад
Hi Michael, You are so welcome! Thanks for the great feedback! Best, John
@dt1902
@dt1902 Месяц назад
The best tennis serving techniques and lessons I have ever heard. Thank you.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis Месяц назад
Thank you so much for your great feedback! I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel, and reach out to me if I can assist further with your tennis! Kindly, John
@jamesfederer5592
@jamesfederer5592 6 месяцев назад
This is the most comprehensive ball toss instruction on your RU-vid I have seen. Great job! I will definitely forward it to my friends. Personally I prefer to place the ball on the palm and slightly pressed by the thumb. This way gives me the most consistent toss without interference from the fingers.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 5 месяцев назад
Awesome, thank you! Best, John
@jacksonlar
@jacksonlar 7 месяцев назад
Listen to this man, folks. Get out there and put in the reps to ingrain his tips into muscle memory. I spent five years gradually discovering them on my own through trial and error. Save yourself that kind of time. Practice your toss....not your serve.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi Jack, Thanks for the great support and contribution to the video! Kindly, John
@cslxxwilliam
@cslxxwilliam 6 месяцев назад
yes, I’m in the same journey. Thanks for the great video!
@costamesa22
@costamesa22 3 месяца назад
Agrred 👍
@willkittwk
@willkittwk 3 месяца назад
Practice both. You can tweak anything in tennis.
@matthieubonnard2702
@matthieubonnard2702 27 дней назад
fantastic video, comprehensive, detailed, clear. Thank you tons!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 27 дней назад
Thank you so much! Glad the video is helpful to you. Be sure to review all the content here on the channel and let me know if you have questions. Best, John
@mikec4834
@mikec4834 6 месяцев назад
Finally I have info to work with! My serve has been the most trouble I've had playing. Thanks to your breakdown of the serve I actually have the the correct tools to work with! Your approach to teaching is first class, can't thank you enough! New subscriber!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi Mike, Thanks so much for the great feedback! Please keep me updated on your progress! Kindly, John
@stephendavenport4375
@stephendavenport4375 3 дня назад
Terrific Lesson. You are a fine teacher!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 2 дня назад
Thank you, Stephen! Best, John
@stephannicolas8696
@stephannicolas8696 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely brilliant.Tnx so much.cheers from France
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, Stephan! Stay tuned, as we have much more coming on the channel! Best, John
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 7 месяцев назад
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@williammarks3421
@williammarks3421 4 дня назад
One advantage to having slight variation is variety in spin and direction. You don't know for sure, niether will your opponent. Obviously everything within reason.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! Check out my Serve Playlist for more including leg drive. And let me know if you have questions or want me to cover another topic for you. Thanks, John
@philbland4207
@philbland4207 3 месяца назад
Thank you John. This is such a great lesson, so clear with really practical drills too. I really enjoy the clarity of your lessons.
@jaybypass
@jaybypass 6 месяцев назад
Amazing lesson!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, Jay! Best, John
@giorgioc6765
@giorgioc6765 6 месяцев назад
Very thorough, thanks. Can't wait to put it into practice.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Giorgio. Please keep me updated on your progress. Best, John
@BobHutton
@BobHutton 3 месяца назад
The weirdest ball toss I can remember is Roscoe Tanner's. He used to hit the ball on the way up.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Hi Bob, Yes, and unfortunately there are many coaches who think that is what everyone should do. It does work for the occasional player, but for most it's not ideal...Best, John
@TheLuc234
@TheLuc234 6 месяцев назад
One of the best videos ive seen on the tennis serve, would love to see some tips on the jumping part of the stroke also, many thanks
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for your feedback and request. I will address that in a future video! Best, John.
@jacknlor
@jacknlor 4 месяца назад
Hi John Your review and summary of the serve ball toss IS Right ON. I have said for over 55 years that a Great Serve, starts with a Great toss. Will forward to my tennis group. Thank you again And look forward to more videos. Blessings Jack
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Hi Jack, Thank you so much for your kind feedback! Thanks for sharing! I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel! All the best, John
@purplemonkeydishwasher9818
@purplemonkeydishwasher9818 6 месяцев назад
I literally haven’t played tournaments in over 10 years. I have not been watching tennis videos AT ALL on RU-vid or elsewhere. I had a dream LAST NIGHT where I was telling my friend how the ball toss is >50% of the serve after you get the technique down because if you think about it that’s the only piece that varies widely each serve. Then this video and ONLY this tennis video shows up in my algorithm. Explain yourself, RU-vid.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Wow! That's a very cool experience! I guess the Google algorithm can read minds too! In any case, I hope the video was super helpful to you! Best, John
@zhen8546
@zhen8546 7 месяцев назад
Great toss vid!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Zhen! Best, John
@detroitlionsfan21
@detroitlionsfan21 3 месяца назад
About to play tennis for the first time in my life. Glad to see a thorough explanation off a ball toss for when I get to that step. Here’s hoping it’ll help me achieve a better serve quicker than most seem to have struggled with for a long time. Thanks for the videos
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your comments and contribution to the video. Keep up the great practice and let me know how it’s going. Thanks, John.
@Ceephus-yd4sv
@Ceephus-yd4sv 3 месяца назад
Very clear, excellent guidance. Thank you!
@JLZR1
@JLZR1 5 месяцев назад
Always thought this action should have been called a ball "placement" versus "toss"...A big difference between "tossing" an object and "placing" it....great video. as usual
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
You nailed it on the head!
@mikevale1000
@mikevale1000 4 месяца назад
I tried some of his tips and it improved my serve a lot, thanks, please do more videos
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Hi Mike, I am glad to know my instruction is helpful to you. Be sure to check out all the content here on the channel, and stay tuned as we have much more coming! Best, John
@huangwee3465
@huangwee3465 6 месяцев назад
These instructions are so good!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you Huang! I hope you find my channel is helpful for your tennis game! Best, John
@user-me9ns8om1x
@user-me9ns8om1x 3 месяца назад
Very valuable step by step explanations. Subscribed.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the great feedback and welcome to the channel! Best, John
@markplumb3968
@markplumb3968 3 месяца назад
Hands down ( no pun intended ) the best serve lesson I’ve seen….
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much, Marc! I hope you find all the content here in the channel valuable to you! Best, John
@williamsannuto8239
@williamsannuto8239 2 месяца назад
Thank you John I wanted to listen to this video before going to practice my serve this morning. Excellent video.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 2 месяца назад
Thanks William! I hope you have a great day on the courts! Kindly, John
@williamsannuto8239
@williamsannuto8239 2 месяца назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis yes it was great finally some good weather in New York today. Looking fwd to today's final. Very happy for Grigor.
@gursimranbhullar7620
@gursimranbhullar7620 6 месяцев назад
What an amazing video..
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! Kindly, John
@chrisg1097
@chrisg1097 6 месяцев назад
Great lesson, any insight on holding the ball? More in palm or fingers? Thank you.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hold the ball on the pads of your fingers...whether your style is palm side or palm up. Best, John
@stanyao
@stanyao 2 месяца назад
So good!! Really helpful. Love it!!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much! Kindly, John
@user-fz4vb4tg1f
@user-fz4vb4tg1f 3 месяца назад
This is the Best Serve video - I have ever seen " . I'm a Tennis Pro Instructor and if you can't serve after watching this video nothing will help you serve.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much for your kind words and contribution to the video! Best, John
@jadawin1137
@jadawin1137 2 месяца назад
Have to disagree, this video, just as literally every other video on the topic, does not acknowledge at all how different people are. For me it's impossible to achieve a controlled release of the ball when holding it with my fingers. There's always some twitching of the fingers that makes the ball spray, even after thousands of repetitions. Only way to get a more or less predictable release is to hold the ball in my palm and taking the fingers out of the equation.
@eldartop1634
@eldartop1634 6 месяцев назад
Probably the best lesson on RU-vid about the ball toss 🎾. Thanks 🙏
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! I hope you are enjoying and benefitting from other content here on the channel as well! Kindly, John
@Kevin-se6mx
@Kevin-se6mx 5 месяцев назад
Excellent! Well thought out commentary. Will definitely improve my serve.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the great feedback! I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel. Kindly, John
@Edeeeennn
@Edeeeennn 5 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot for this lesson, man! 👏
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 5 месяцев назад
You are welcome! I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel! Best, John
@jameskidner5929
@jameskidner5929 4 месяца назад
The most comprehensible tutorial on the toss iv'e seen. thanks.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Thanks James for the great feedback! Keep up the great practice! Best, John
@mikray-mf4hj
@mikray-mf4hj 3 месяца назад
Very well done video. I picked a number of pointers from your break down of the serve related to the ball toss, Thanks
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your feedback!
@mojtabadocharkhehsaz6787
@mojtabadocharkhehsaz6787 4 месяца назад
I had try Serving with different coach and different ways , i watched bunch of videos on youtube about the tips, but this video is the perfect one, it helps me to improve my tennis serve by 80 percent, really amazing, palm side and try to focus on floating the ball then start the second hand to hit the ball are the points i've never seen in other videos. i try them and yes it works.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Hi and thanks for the feedback! I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel! Keep up the great practice! Kindly, John
@gattaca5911
@gattaca5911 7 месяцев назад
thanks coach...lost some of my balance as older and can't toss the way I did when I was younger.....wits end after 2 years of trying to get it back. chasing toss all over so I will try it your way. 🎾
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Please let me know how your serve is coming along utilizing these ball placement lessons. Thanks, John
@paulwang1529
@paulwang1529 2 дня назад
It would help a great deal if you would explain all this with ball placement in mind. After all if we had all the power from the pronation but no idea where the ball would be going, we could not be confident in hitting it.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis День назад
Hi Paul, Please check out my other videos on the channel that identify the ideal ball placements. Thank you, John
@vladimirvidov6202
@vladimirvidov6202 4 месяца назад
thank you very much excellent excellent plus lesson you excellent
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the great feedback! There is plenty of excellent content here on the channel...I hope you benefit from it! Kindly, John
@mtns7036
@mtns7036 Месяц назад
A lovely intructional video. Whats your opinion about the constraints led approach that would say 'deliberate practice' ie isolating a skill by serving into an empty box or isolating a ball toss ect is not preparing you for match day. For example if i practice 100 ball tosses and 100 serves with my coach by me giving me explicit instructions one day. Then the next i step on court for a match, there is a opponent which can make me nervous or the sun is in my eyes ect ect, doesnt this make the way my body reacts totally different, its almost an alien situation from said lesson.
@lindsayanderson454
@lindsayanderson454 4 месяца назад
Great video. All excellent, except I would question the instruction of looking at the release point instead of looking at the target point. In fact, the photos of the pros actually show their eyes looking much higher than at the release point. Does a darts player look at the release point or the target?
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Hi Lindsay, Thanks for your feedback, comment and question. The look at the release is a quick glance. Even Grigor is looking at the release in this thumbnail. A lot of pros do it and some don't, but it is a good skill to control the release. All the best, John
@bmanbusee3812
@bmanbusee3812 7 месяцев назад
Hi John, great vid as usual. I’m a little confused as to where the starting toss arm position is. Is it more straight towards the net starting off and then you turn to having arm and then toss at the 45. Or is your arm just already at the 45, the latter feels static to me and a bit off in regard to momentum. Thanks!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi, Thanks for the feedback and great question! The start of the serve will have subtle differences based on your style...what feels right to you. You certainly see players that "turn-away" as they enter into the tossing phase, and you see others who start the arm at 45. Best option: What feels best to you! Kindly, John
@stephenkeye2678
@stephenkeye2678 5 месяцев назад
I had rotator surgery. My toss has suffered. I'll try these tips.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 5 месяцев назад
Let me know how it goes. If you are interested, I do comprehensive video analysis to guide you: performanceplustennis.com/performance-plus-serve-stroke-video-analysis-description/. Best, John
@NStewF
@NStewF 6 месяцев назад
This video lives up to its title! Watched it twice already. I use the side palm technique but have struggled with the actual release. John’s demo of the release shows how he fans the back of his hand at the top towards the net. Thanks!!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Neil. Glad the video lesson was helpful to you! Best, John
@AndreiBgatov
@AndreiBgatov 6 месяцев назад
Very good lesson. Thank you. I’m already doing most things that you describe but I’m still placing (not tossing 😂) the ball too far to my right 😢 Why is this happening and how can I fix it? I was thinking of practising my toss by throwing it upwards into a basketball hoop - like a target practice. Do you have some drills or tips for that please? Thank you!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
@@AndreiBgatov Hi, It sounds to me that you are releasing the ball too soon. Check your release point. It should be near the top of your head, where your tossing arm is approaching a 45 degree angle from horizontal. Yes, having a target like a basketball hoop is a good idea. Please keep me updated on your progress. Best, John
@AndreiBgatov
@AndreiBgatov 6 месяцев назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis Ah! So 45 degrees is UP from horizontal? I thought in the vid you were referring to 45 degrees IN from the baseline? Have I misunderstood?
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
@@AndreiBgatov Hi, No, you did not mis-understand.Consider two 45 degree angles: 1) The angle that your arm rises in relation to the baseline, and 2) the angle your arm is from horizontal when you release the ball. I hope this makes sense...let me know! Best, John
@tarsem3258
@tarsem3258 3 месяца назад
Place dont toss. Love that!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Glad "place" resonates with you! Best, John
@pauljohnston
@pauljohnston 7 месяцев назад
fantastic video, John. Many thanks.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, Paul! Much appreciate the feedback! Best, John
@gerrysweeney8432
@gerrysweeney8432 4 месяца назад
Really fantastic instruction!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Thank you, Gerry! Best, John
@dbk7238
@dbk7238 7 месяцев назад
hi coach john. i first thought you were paul annacone. i run a two local programs and coach a few 100 kids and juniors a year. ive been interested in creating instructional channel and videos but there's already so much content on youtube. i just came across this, your video about the serve toss and its the best one ive seen. you cover everything i tell my students, im going to reinforce my instructions by sharing your video with all my students. ~coach dudley
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi Coach Dudley, Thanks for your comments and feedback. Yes, RU-vid is pretty crowded with content these days. I am glad you found the lesson helpful. Hopefully you checked-out some of my other videos as well. Let me know your thoughts, and stay in touch. Best, John
@sunsioux444
@sunsioux444 6 месяцев назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis yes RU-vid is crowded but somehow I found you and you are in my top three of tennis instruction
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
That's great to know! Thanks for the feedback and support! Kindly, John@@sunsioux444
@mindango4092
@mindango4092 6 месяцев назад
Hi John! This is an amazing video that helped me so much with my serve. Do you have any drills/tips for dropping the racquet fully while serving? I often find I don't do it fully and I'm not sure if that is from habit or because I am not giving myself enough time.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi Mina, Thanks so much for the great feedback! I am so pleased to know the lesson was helpful to you! I will definitely produce a video on your question and concern about your racquet drop. If you want to send me a video of your serve, please contact me: performanceplustennis.com/contact-us/ I hope you enjoy and benefit from the other content here on the channel. Kindly, John.
@secondwind7322
@secondwind7322 7 месяцев назад
Great, clear instruction...but...No discussion of toss relative to the baseline for flat, spin, kick, etc?
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi and thanks for the feedback. Ball locations for various serves are covered in other videos on the channel. This one is just about the technical skill of placing the ball. Best, John
@Gwoehlertutube
@Gwoehlertutube 4 месяца назад
The best Toss Lesson I saw yet. I'm going to learn it starting today.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much! Keep me updated on your progress. Kindly, John.
@adresmiddleton4225
@adresmiddleton4225 6 месяцев назад
Wow, can't wait to use these tips. Thanks
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Awesome! Keep me updated on your progress!
@crosscourtrabbitcompletetennis
@crosscourtrabbitcompletetennis 7 месяцев назад
Well done, comprehensive presentation.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you CCRCT! Best, John
@brandonvereyken4869
@brandonvereyken4869 3 месяца назад
Love the way you go through many information points on the serve as separate topics. I like it. Most kind of teach one serve, and you seem to recognize that people are different, and give them great data points to consider in the context of their own serve, and more particularly, to their mistakes. One thing though. The word OKAY is pronounced OKAY, not N-KIGH.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thanks Brandon for your feedback and contribution to the video lesson! And I will work on my pronunciation! Kindly, John
@tenniscoach
@tenniscoach 2 месяца назад
excellent serve clinic session.. covers all potential variables that a serve can go wrong.. from a fellow tennis coach
@larrybu2000
@larrybu2000 6 месяцев назад
The best ball toss tennis lesson
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! Best, John
@js4844
@js4844 6 месяцев назад
Thanks John. After you release the ball and your arm is raised are you looking at the ball along the inside or the outside of your arm? Also, for the ball to return to your hand, are you saying that there’s no need to toss forward into the court as other coaches recommend? Otherwise I don’t understand how you’d be able to catch it.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the feedback and great questions. I am definitely looking at the ball along the inside of my arm. Regarding catching: The left hand for me assists as a guideline. The reality is the ball is slight more forward, but I move into the contact and therefore the ball is more above me than in front. You will see this in the video I am releasing tomorrow morning on Holger Rune's serve. Let me know if you have additional questions. Thanks, John
@kenseewald7301
@kenseewald7301 3 месяца назад
You have the best lessons on the serve for someone who needs to improve, or fix a serve gone bad.
@pauljohanstokstad
@pauljohanstokstad 3 месяца назад
The only thing missing here (IMHO) is the timing of the leg bend. Top pros all have major leg bend engagement in their serve. The question therefore is the timing of that element in the mix described here.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your comments and contribution to the video. That topic is presented in other videos here on the channel. Best, John.
@st96dgx8
@st96dgx8 3 месяца назад
​@@PerformancePlusTennisCan you please provide a link to the video that talks about the timing of the leg bend on the serve? Thanks!
@Ken-Hung
@Ken-Hung 6 месяцев назад
I’ve noticed with a palm up style, the ball sometimes rolls off my fingers which leads to inconsistency. Palm to the side, my fingers move away perpendicular to the upward motion of the ball so there is less rolling and more consistency
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi Ken, Thanks for your perspective and contribution to the video! Spot on! Kindly, John
@karinahailova7758
@karinahailova7758 3 месяца назад
The best!!!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thank you! Kindly, John
@ernestopicazo8883
@ernestopicazo8883 6 месяцев назад
Este ejercicio es muy Antiguo, Amigo.
@hrasenspocht3530
@hrasenspocht3530 6 месяцев назад
great stuff. Thank you.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! Best, John
@stephenkeye2678
@stephenkeye2678 5 месяцев назад
Palm up is like a layup in basketball!! It's the best way to think of it!
@amritzelnick
@amritzelnick Месяц назад
Mkay got it
@rifraf170
@rifraf170 3 месяца назад
Great instructional video, I've watched a lot of content on the subject and have learnt a thing or two here. How does the putting weight on the back foot... then tossing, work within the context of a pinpoint serve? At what stage of the toss do you start to bring up and shifting forward the weight from the back foot to the front foot?
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your feedback and contribution to the video. Ideally, you will keep your weight stable, slightly on the back foot until the ball is released. Once released, the tossing arm continues to rise and that is when the back foot should come up and enjoy the front foot for a pinpoint stance. Best, John.
@markchan006
@markchan006 7 месяцев назад
thank you John. I was tossing the ball when the body weight was shifting to the front (instead of my weight on my back foot). Now I realize this is dead wrong and create all the inconsistency of my toss. I am going to practice the ball toss with all your tips and is excited to see what will happen.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi Mark, I hope your serve is coming along. Please give me an update on your progress. Thanks, John
@tonymurphy9795
@tonymurphy9795 3 месяца назад
Great tip about keeping still! Discovered it was my big mistake!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Terrific! Keep up the great practice! Best, John
@glademaster
@glademaster 4 месяца назад
I was skeptical about the video title but turns out this is a really good comprehensive video!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much! Kindly, John
@djforcefield9115
@djforcefield9115 2 месяца назад
Great lesson John. I recently determined that I needed to refine my toss in order to dial in my full power and precision potential. This did the trick as I was crushing a very high percentage of first serves with ease today. Thank you!
@MyOhMyTube
@MyOhMyTube 3 месяца назад
Like your instruction, as a righty when serving, I was taught to position my left foot toward the right net post. However, unless I'm mistaken, many of the high performance players appear to place their left foot parallel to the baseline. I didn't hear or see you address that option.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Your observation about the stance is correct. I do mention that in some of my videos, but I will address it specifically in another new video. Thanks, John
@tambanh4028
@tambanh4028 5 месяцев назад
I’m just curious…what do you think of the Sampras serve? To me, Sampras has the best serve of all time.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 5 месяцев назад
Hi and thanks your question. Sampras had an amazing serve! I would say one of the top 5 all time best serves for sure! Best, John
@mondieannan4249
@mondieannan4249 3 месяца назад
I'd like to make a suggestion as someone who has watched a few of your videos. I know you will be holding a tennis racket, and I know you will be holding a ball. I also now know that you are not going to use either of them very often. Even on this video, where it about the ball toss, I would like to see a large basket of balls behind you and every time you demonstrate something, you follow through and actually hit the ball. Not only will there be action to watch that is more interesting than standing there and talking, but I actually want to observe how you serve, and how what you are instructing works in practice. It's a little bit disconcerting to see you with one ball cos I immediately know you are not going to hit that ball away. I want to see you hit it as you explain. It will keep me engaged with the video a lot longer; what do you think?
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your feedback! I will be hitting more serves going forward!
@jasonevans279
@jasonevans279 2 месяца назад
Any remedy for a late ball release? Tendency to late ball release, and causes the ball arch too far behind me. thanks
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 2 месяца назад
Hi Jason, 1) Hold the ball softly on the pads of your fingers. 2) Know your release point. 3) Keep your body and head still until the ball leaves your hand. Let me know if this helps. Best, John
@jasonevans279
@jasonevans279 2 месяца назад
I toss the ball with my palm facing sideways....to the right. My challenge is releasing the ball at eye level versus above my head. I'll keep working on it, thanks @@PerformancePlusTennis
@kenmartinelli6134
@kenmartinelli6134 3 месяца назад
Fabulous!!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your kind feedback!
@thomasrebotier1741
@thomasrebotier1741 7 месяцев назад
I disagree on the "weight slightly back during the tossing phase". At the very initiation of the movement, yes definitely, but as your arm 45º then 90º even more, your hips are already moving forward as your knees bend. Just look at Roddick's serve again. That time when your arm ascends is also your weight transfer time. Also, this may be the reason you like a higher toss: you need extra time to bend your knees and shift your weight forward *after the toss*. High efficiency serves from Tanner to Kyrgios, including Sampras and Roddick, all do that weight transfer *during the toss*.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi Thomas, To be clear, I define the "tossing phase" as the time when the tossing arm starts to rise and then releases the ball. Once the ball is released, the body will naturally follow the tossing arm as it rises to vertical (or in some cases beyond...like Roddick). I see too many players moving during this phase which causes a poor ball placement and missing the balance in the trophy position. Best, John
@brandomaxwell
@brandomaxwell 6 месяцев назад
This may be the most comprehensive exploration of the topic I've seen on the youtubes.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Brandon! Kindly, John
@MrUlaampara
@MrUlaampara 6 месяцев назад
perfect kinetics of a perfect serve,
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! Best, John
@andronikosb96
@andronikosb96 6 месяцев назад
You are very good ! Knowing tennis and I am saying - you are good !
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! I hope that you are benefiting from other content here on the channel as well! Kindly, John
@FMD023
@FMD023 6 месяцев назад
Short Toss balls are better for flat serves. I found success in my junior years with that. I had a fast flat serve with good placement.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Better for you, but not the majority. Thanks for sharing your success with your style! Best, John
@FMD023
@FMD023 6 месяцев назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis yes sir also I can’t serve with a platform stance. My serve is like Nick Kyrios but I’m just a lot shorter 😂.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
We are all different for sure! Thanks, John
@FMD023
@FMD023 6 месяцев назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis just curious, the last time I played a kick serve is used with an eastern grip is that still correct? I’m seeing people saying it’s used with also a continental grip. It’s either I was taught wrong back then or it changed with time.
@FMD023
@FMD023 6 месяцев назад
@@PerformancePlusTennisthank you, I learned a new way to try to toss the ball. The “ice cream” method Forsure!
@davidtepper2290
@davidtepper2290 6 месяцев назад
This is a very comprehensive video, except for one thing. You do not address who far forward (into the court) the ball should be tossed. Looking from the side, should the ball be tossed overhead (12 o'clock) or more forward (toward 1 o'clock)? If the toss was allowed to fall down onto the court, should it land just behind the baseline, on the baseline or 6 inches in front of the baseline?
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 5 месяцев назад
Hi David, Thank you, and yes I missed that one piece, which I will address in a video very soon. The short answer is yes, in front so that you are learning in SLIGHTLY on contact. How, the rest of the details will be covered in the video soon! Best, John
@rosyjag
@rosyjag Месяц назад
At time of release, eyes look at the spot where you intend the ball to go. This is very well seen in the image of Serena used by you to illustrate this. When we want to throw at a target, we look at the target at release, not at the ball. Otherwise your video was excellent and useful. Thanks a lot.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis Месяц назад
Thanks for your comments. However, both Roger and Serena are looking right at the ball upon release...neither are looking up to where the ball will be placed. Look again. Best, John
@running2standstill685
@running2standstill685 3 месяца назад
As a kid i didnt have or worried about my toss, as a grown up i cant seem to throw it consistently
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
I understand completely! As kids, we don’t overthink things we just do it. As adults we overthink, so hopefully a couple of these tips will help you. Keep up the quality practice. Best, John .
@running2standstill685
@running2standstill685 3 месяца назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis overthink, thats exactly what ruins my game, cant wait to apply your tips, thanks!
@robmcgovern2063
@robmcgovern2063 3 месяца назад
That's succinct, to the point. 10/10
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much! Kindly, John
@GershonBenYitzhak
@GershonBenYitzhak 2 месяца назад
🎾 Ball Holding Techniques: Exploring palm-up and palm-side holding styles, the video discusses the advantages of each and recommends the palm-side method for its less spin-inducing release and smoother ball exit. 🔄 Serve Tempo and Routine: The importance of establishing a consistent pre-serve routine that sets the right tempo and ensures the ball is held comfortably for a controlled toss. 🏋 Body Movement Control: Tips on weight shifting and maintaining heel-down posture during the toss to counterbalance the arm's motion, aiming for minimal body movement for accuracy. ⬆ Tossing Arm Angle: Advocates for a 45-degree angle toss to maintain alignment, encourage proper shoulder rotation, and ensure a vertical ball trajectory for easier timing and contact. 🎯 Ball Release Point: Identifying the optimal release point at the top of the head and using visual cues to release the ball at the right area, ensuring consistency and accuracy. 🌬 Smooth Lift and Release: Emphasizes a smooth, controlled toss that makes the ball seem to float out of the hand, contrasting with the common misconception of 'tossing' the ball. 📏 Ball Toss Height: Discusses the debated topic of toss height, suggesting a slightly higher toss for more time to execute serve motions effectively, using the fence height as a practice reference. 📍 Ideal Contact Point: For a powerful serve, the ball should be hit slightly inside the shoulder to ear level, promoting long-axis rotation and maximizing power. 🛑 Discerning Good from Bad Tosses: Encourages players to practice recognizing and opting not to swing at poorly tossed balls, enhancing serve reliability. 🔄 Practice Drills: Provides drills for refining ball placement and serving technique, including exercises focusing on the tossing arm's movement, consistency in ball return to the hand, and balancing. Summary by chatgpt
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 2 месяца назад
Hi Daniel, would you mind explaining to me how you got to do this? Thanks!
@GershonBenYitzhak
@GershonBenYitzhak 2 месяца назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis There is a GPT called "youtube summarizer". If you have a chatgpt paid account you can access the GPT marketplace. You just post the link to a youtube video and it will summarize it for you. Pretty cool
@hobbyfarmer1452
@hobbyfarmer1452 Месяц назад
When I I serve, I can only focus on three things: toss high, reach high and snap my wrist. The tempo is important though.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis Месяц назад
You got the first two right, but I would be very cautious about snapping your wrist. Best, John
@sajidaziz7742
@sajidaziz7742 6 месяцев назад
The toss should really be going a bit forward over the baseline to enable better body weight transfer into the serve.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Agreed Sajid. That is the next step after simply getting control of the technique. Thanks for your comments and contribution to the video discussion. Best, John
@xndpope
@xndpope 3 месяца назад
Nice video and tips, got my like, but Andy Roddick commiting a foot fault was not a good example of a nice toss!
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Hi James, thanks for your feedback and contribution to the video! Please keep me updated on your progress, and I hope you enjoy other content here on the channel. Kindly, John.
@ronmorgan8214
@ronmorgan8214 3 месяца назад
I practice tosses using a couple of spring loaded clothes pins placed on the fence at my preferred ball toss height. No need for a racquet during that exercise.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Thanks Ron for sharing your process. How do you get the clothes pins up high on the fence? Thanks, John
@ronmorgan8214
@ronmorgan8214 2 месяца назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis Stepladder with three steel spring clothes pins placed at a predetermined spot on the fencing. Have them placed directly in line with the service box divider line on one end of the court. Most people do not notice them, but a few have done the same on their court.
@rexxengineering8333
@rexxengineering8333 3 месяца назад
Finger grip is a disaster for me. Have to take all finger action out and only use the palm and thumb or ball goes in a million directions. Finger action is very difficult to control consistently.
@bryanvo699
@bryanvo699 7 месяцев назад
Hi coach, I am in south Orange County and would like to take in person tennis lessons from you. This is a serious inquiry! Thank you coach.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 7 месяцев назад
Hi Bryan, I am out of town into next week, but feel free to contact me through this link: performanceplustennis.com/contact-us/ Thanks, John
@bryanvo699
@bryanvo699 7 месяцев назад
@@PerformancePlusTennis i just did coach. I left you my email address and phone number. If you are in NB then we are not too far from each other.
@jacksonlar
@jacksonlar 7 месяцев назад
I'm on the other side of the country. I envy your geolocation.
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
@@jacksonlar Hi Jack, The weather and lifestyle is great here...that is why I left Connecticut many years ago. Best, John
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
HI Bryan, Feel free to contact me to talk about a lesson plan. Thanks, John
@miguelrc3234
@miguelrc3234 3 месяца назад
Good video and good concepts - you should write a book
@dnisbet71
@dnisbet71 3 месяца назад
3:19 sure roddick is foot-faulting here, right?
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
Yeah, it was an exhibition match
@stephenkeye2678
@stephenkeye2678 5 месяцев назад
Not sure I'd agree w the fence? You'll have to wait for the ball to drop?
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 5 месяцев назад
You'd be surprised how little time you have when the ball is placed to top of the fence. You have enough time to load in and fly up to the ideal contact. Try it and let me know! Best, John
@SanjivShah
@SanjivShah 3 месяца назад
Basically do a million things right every time and your toss will be perfect every time - duh 😢
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 3 месяца назад
The goal is to learn strong fundamentals slowly over time, don’t give up!
@MikeSmith-go8wk
@MikeSmith-go8wk 22 дня назад
Pahahaha 😂
@djbradshaw3390
@djbradshaw3390 6 месяцев назад
regarding ball toss height.... you hit the ball in the same spot on either toss..the only difference is that with the high toss you have created another moving piece to the serve... so IMO the high toss is too difficult for anyone that is not a pro
@PerformancePlusTennis
@PerformancePlusTennis 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your opinion and making a contribution to the video discussion. Best, John
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