stop with history, this is Art, and really Epic, still you wacht it and feel rise your soul and encourage your life, so this is far better most impostant in art than whatever other things. Awesome film
I know it's nowhere even close to being accurate to the point to where it's almost fiction, but as entertainment, I've always thoroughly enjoyed this battle scene.
I became fascinated with Custer’s Last Stand when I watched this movie with Dad as a kid. He cautioned me the film was “pure Hollywood” but such a battle really occurred. At least they didn’t have the Cheyenne and Sioux riding around Custer’s command in circles.
Larry Bittke Disney’s Tonka has a decent LSH scene. With Custer sitting and leaning on a dead horse, shouting orders. Tonka has one of the more realistic last stand scenes until son Of The Morning Star in 1991.
Highly romanticised of course but still the best movie version of Custer's last stand. Incidentally Sitting Bull stated that the Indians all had rifles and no Bows and Arrows. Always liked Anthony Quinn. Great actor.
For the record, the Native American's never rode around in a circle to be shot at. In fact, Wagon Trains actually made a square. The Circle came about because of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. Native Americans rarely attacked Large Wagon Trains, only a handful of times that happened. Usually, if you were in a Train of 80-100 Wagons you were pretty safe. Raiding party's didn't want to have to face 100 guns or more. They would attack small Trains and Individual wagons. Because they could outrun the horses, Railroad Train attacks were also rare. The Native American's were not stupid and usually attacked 'Soft Targets'. Individual isolated houses for example. Of course, disease, battle attrition, the extermination of their food sources, and the ability of the Army to fight in Winter all added up to inevitable defeat.
Unfortunately, this was neither the first, nor the last historical event that Hollywood took liberties with to tell a story. From "Birth of a Nation" onward, Hollywod had always choose to give the Legend, rather than the truth. One day, before I leave here, someone is going to tell me what Hollywood had against the Union. P.S...I still like the way Custer's horse slid to a stop in "They Died With Their Boots On"!💀
maybe he made mistakes but he was a man and he died with the boots on, he is the american soul, the american spirit, nobody can take this land, im cuban but my kids are american and im proud of that , im americam, thats it...
UN ASESINO ES LO QUE SIEMPRE FUE,O NO CONOCES LA HISTORIA DE CUSTER,INDISCIPLINADO, ARROGANTE,,,Y SENTIA ODIO POR LOS VERDADEROS NATIVOS DE ESAS TIERRAS,UN ASESINO,ESO FUE CUSTER,DEJEN DE ADORNARLO.
The movie is more appreciated for the inner workings of the post Civil War Indian Wars politics than the overly heroic inaccurate depiction of the battle. The fact that incompetent military command and greedy politicians led to so many Native Americans (Whole Tribes), Settlers and Soldiers to die pointlessly in a violent unnecessary campaign of conquest was criminal itself.
Pure entertainment there’s something wrong with you you must think like the same Europeans that all they wanted to do was wipe out the original people, It was 100% murder
Battle didn't happen this way. Custer charged recklessly, into a trap. The Sioux and their Allies first cut off the rear of the column, and basically diced up the rest. At the end, I have heard, Custer was left with something like only 44 Men at the end. So it wasn't the whole Command.
As a Boomer, This Movie stirred our hearts with Glorious Hollywood Adventure BUT I must say "Son of the Morning Star" showed their demise in the wild Melee at the end quite accurately.........if only Commanche ould talk!
Yes. I saw a colorized version on television about 20 years ago. But I don't recall which station it appeared on. ... One of my favorite flicks, in B/W or color.
@biomedsci1 Fine, but I liked it from the first time I saw it and lack of historical accuracy won´t change that. Besides that, the film is a Classic...
It's the movies. 1941. We were getting in the war. Heroes. Sacrifice. Patriotism. If Curtiz got one thing right, he captured the sweep of it, I believe.
Historically incorrect but I always loved the battle scene. As an aside I am amused at how many of the "Indians" are depicted as wearing full war bonnets. All chiefs and no indians?
A warrior wore an eagle feather for every coup counted or enemy killed. Many would have had war bonnets; they were not the sole headr gear of chiefs. (I hate it when people reveal their ignorance)
actually NO, he had his hair cut the previous day so long gone was the flowing locks, and he was not wearing the buckskin jacket. either. Brother Tom Custer may have but that is inconclusive too.
Thrilling entertainment,...complete fantasy. Custer had divided his force into three elements and attacked an unsuspecting village from two sides, killing many woman and children. The warriors rallied , drove back Benteen and wiped out Custer and the men who were with him. There was no elaborate “ Indian ambush “, this was a defensive counter attack against a surprise attack on a sleeping village.
This is nothing like how it happened if you looked it up on RU-vid the army wasn't all together on a group like it is hear they were all scattered and died all over the place and this shows Custer being a hero if u look it up on RU-vid hes the one that tell people there's gold in the black hills.
This doesn’t depict the thousands of warriors that actually fought at the battle. Chief Two Moons said they swirled around the soldiers like water around a stone.
The battle is very close to how happen in reality, because the Custer's division fought with courage until the end; Custer divided his ; Custer died by two bullet wounds and his body was respected, while the others soldiers' corpses were mutilated (took their scalps, hearts and visceras) his battalion divided into 3 sub units (2 of them in pursuit for Indians which some fought bravely as they could while others trapped in despair escaped terrified but still many soldiers were killed shamefully)
That summary contains about as much fiction as this Hollywood movie clip. I'll just pick one point though; it's very 'pop history' to say Custer was respected, Lakota and Cheyenne accounts say they didn't know Custer was there until well after the fighting, and not only that but some have stated that he wasn't mutilated because he was a suicide and it was bad luck to take the scalp of a suicide.
@@Montague1428 and the one said to be custer had his ears penetrated with sewing awls by the native women so "he could hear the death cries of the Sioux women and children"
A very good fight scene and well done to everyone who was involved. However, in reality, Custer and his own force, were easily blown away by the Indians. A very shocking incident, showing the horror of this. Children were also shot dead here. :(
@@alanpeterson6224 Try not to make horrible, sneering comments like that. Where are you from? Somewhere where you think your opinion is the only one that counts? Don't be so nasty. And yes, there were children there. Custer was after them with the Native American women to use them as hostages. Two children died in the gunfire. Get that looked up.
And that's what happens when anglicised soldiers enter the fray...time for a cuppa tea lads. Well it worked against the spanish armada, along with a game of bowls of course...
Which myth? And which archaeologists? From what I've read, it proved Benteen a liar and the Lefties can't stand that. Nobody cut and ran, most died in place. That's what's been proved.
@terry waller : That are very interesting views. Indians were known for their asymmetrical warfare, that's true. Conventional tactics didn't work against them. Thank you very much 👍
I read about some bloody defeats of union troops against indians after civil war, but i blamed it to the fact that US - soldiers often were still armed with old fashioned one - shot - rifles, while the Indians already used Winchester and Revolver - rifles. I would never have guessed that the Indians were consulted by former CSA officers ! The contempt of white officers for the indians was prevalent in their behaviour against the tribes.
Very few officers were intelligent, give a Sgt Mgr or Cmd Sgt Mgr any day and I would plan battles with their advice. Great movie though inaccurate in how the battle occurred. Still a very entertaining movie.
Just to be nit picky here, but there seems to be too many Native American deaths, the U.S. was not surrounded, but charged, from my research, Custer wasn't the last to die, as at least 28 troopers attempted to escape, but failed. The skirmish lines weren't really that organized, as, having recently been to the battlefield, the dead were scattered apart. Also, there were no trees at the battlefield, and the Native Americans went back to the battlefield for looting, I think.
In the real battle, less than 40 warriors went to the Happy Hunting Ground. And the dead ones were not a bunch of chiefs, killed in hand-to-hand combat while running around wearing feathered war bonnets. The shot where the Native American wearing a war bonnet with a long train of feathers runs into the battle and puts a lance through the Brit before Custer turns and blows him away is absurdity. (No Sioux warrior could ever earn that many feathers if he is prone to doing something that stupid in battle.) This movie makes it seem as though the only reason Custer lost was because there were thousands of Native Americans who just kept coming when the first ones were killed. Far from accurate.
@@jhoff1234 reports at the time state that there were a minimum of 2,000 warriors in the camp. Custer and the men with him died on last stand hill, because they were surrounded and couldn't flee.
Historically accurate? Probably not, but a well shot and directed film. Not with the special effects of today, probably cost too much to film it the same way today without using CGI.From what I can gather it was at best a bad command decision or at worst a desire for all the glory. Having all 3 columns out of site of each other was very bad, should have had scouts out watching what was going on with the other columns. But having pushed his men and horses so hard to get there ahead of General Terry was the stupidest thing. Had they taken their time and been rested, the result might have been different or Custer might have been arrested and court-martialed for disobedience of orders. Just my humble opinion
When I watch this old movie which is only about 50 plus years after the actual battle i cant see but maybe half of the tomb stones they say 286 soldier How many actually died
How nice it is to watch movies where ours win :).They are so rare in the West.I have ALWAYS been on the side of the Indians, who, to their great grief, still could not defend their freedom from the pale-faced pigs who came to their lands.
terry waller No, Reno had the peeping tom charge. Custer went ahead with about 235 men. Benteen stopped to support Reno’s command after they’d retreated to the knolls. Grass was deep by the river perhaps, but not atop the hills.
Question Could Custer and Reno together with the whole troops withstood the attack I don't think so But Custer never had a chance The only way would have been to cut and shoot his way through A report in 1962 says he rode right in the whole group of warriors
It is probably a guinness book record for the highest number of eagles feathers seen in one day, or film for that matter, even beating Hitchcock's 'Birds', by a few thousand at least!
Have been in this history place . Do not push people to the wall .That why we see CUSTER UNIFORM hang on the wall of the museum with so many bullets holes.
Exactly!! According to historians & historical facts, it's believed Custer was one of the first killed. We don't know if that's completely accurate, but I believe some Indians who were there later said Custer was one of the first ones killed. Of course the cavalry was completely surrounded & vastly outnumbered, so there was no retreat for them, even with their commanding officer dead. The only survivor on the side of the cavalry was Myles Keough's horse Comanche, & he was wounded badly!
261 young lads fought bravley to the last man but the bloodthirsty savages were too many. This must be one of United States most heroic last stands ever.
It was poor Command and Control on Custer's Part. As per any Military engagement and or battle, throughout History, there are few options: attack, defend, await reinforcements and or withdraw. At the Deep Coulee Forge, an old Buffalo crossing, a handful of Cheyenne warriors with the Yellow Boy Henrys and Winchester repeating rifles stopped Custer from crossing the Greasy Grass. The Cheyenne had long awaited the moment. They had eagerly awaited revenge for the slaughter of Black Kettle's people at the Washita. Of historical note, Custer was shot off his horse while crossing the Greasy Grass. Troopers from his Command. They made their way to Last Stand Hill. After the battle ended, his body reflected two wounds -- one in the chest and another to the head. Perhaps he committed suicide? Today History recalls both Sioux and Cheyenne accounts. Who killed Custer? You decide.
Nobody knows. If you look into the accounts you see the meta-narrative which is that whites, hungry for an epic narrative, a last stand, a name of the killer, essentially hounded the native witnesses into taking credit. People will eventually tell you want to hear if you box them in enough. They didn't even know they fought Custer until they met up with friendly tribes who had heard it through the fort-chain grapevine. Custer's tactics were probably pretty standard when attacking a settlement, pinch it from both sides, roll through the scrambling warriors , create chaos, and then cut down people and set fire to things. The major bad decision that makes most of the play by play moot was the decision to attack at all. It was a massive village and the sheer numbers made it impossible for him to have a successful outcome. The alternate universe where he did not split his forces and both he and Reno rode on the Western side of the river or on the Eastern coulees, the best case scenario is he would have been pushed back with Reno to the Benteen hilltop, and worst case they would have all been slaughtered on the "last stand hill" it just would have taken longer. Something in between maybe where they held out in 2 pockets or Benteen's pack train gets the brunt of it, but no arrangement would have meant a victory and the burning of Sitting Bull's camp. The only right decision would have been to listen to his scouts, to attempt to skirt the Sioux and link up with the rest of General Terry's forces and then they would have stood a fighting chance. Most likely the Sioux would have headed SW toward the Bighorn Mountains and slipped between the two forces before they could coordinate, leading them to re-deploy and try to ensnare them again (which is essentially what would happen later as they converged on the Black Hills.
Бесконечные индейцы (судя по количеству вождей с белыми перьями их было миллион) победили имеющих бесконечное количество боеприпасов кавалеристов генерала Картера.
Y una mierda pa ti mona.ganaron por qué eran muchísimos más y los soldados no tenían winchesters. Y mataron indios a paletadas.en igualdad no ganaban ni de coña.valen bastante más que tu.y serán recordados siempre por su valor y gloria alcanzados.tu que méritos y gloria tienes? Mamarracho.
All americans died (more than 200). Sioux had about 30 (thirthy) deads, so I guess the battle was a little different.... it's years that people misunderstand Hollywood for history
