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To answer your question; fungi aren't particularly fond of UV light, it'll kill them off and inhibit growth. They thrive better in dark, moist environs.
Cordyceps actually like UV light and are extremely phototropic, growing towards it. They require a day /night light cycle of 16 hours of daylight but have been found to still grow with constant 24/7 light with no dark periods . Remember the fungus that this is based on Infects ants and has them crawl towards the highest point possible and latch themselves on a leaf
Yeah, they adapted to survive in slightly warmer temperatures- getting past the point they can survive in a human body, but not so much survive in much higher temps- like direct sunlight on pavement. It's why I don't believe the flour theory. A grain silo may have been a great place for them to grow and mutate, but for the fungi to survive being milled and baked at 350 degrees F, not so much...
Same! Though I was more afraid of Stalkers! At least with Clickers you can hear them, but it's so much more unsettling not being able to see or hear the stalkers until they're right on you.
I appreciate that comment, I had no idea. I just looked her up and she is impressive. This show has a tendency to small role huge stars because of the story lol. They made the right choice sticking closely to the game story. I was very pleased with this adaptation.
The stages of infection are (if i remember correctly from the game): 1: runners, people who just got infected. They can see you and will run after you. In the game, you could sometimes hear them scream or cry out for help, sort of eerily suggesting that they are still conscious but have no control over their body anymore. 2: stalkers, they have been infected for a little longer. They can see and they will hide from you until you are close before they attack you. I think this was the type of zombie to attack Ellie, as she said he came out of nowhere. 3: clickers, the zombies in the museum who have been infected for a while. The fungus has grown through their eye sockets so they cannot see but they have advanced hearing/echolocation (the clicking noise that they make). 4: bloaters, we haven't come across these in the show yet but they are the zombies that have been infected for a long time and are like the "bosses" that you have to defeat in the game. They are a lot bigger than clickers, have fungi all over their body, cannot see you and in the game they CAN actually throw these spore bombs at you (which is what Ellie talks about in the scene on the highway). In the show they got rid of the spores however, so I am excited to see what they are gonna make them do in the show. The zombie that infects Tess is likely a stalker that was about to turn into a clicker, seeing as half its face was covered in fungi.
17:43 yeah, bloaters don't really bite you. They rip you the fuck up lol. A death animation in the games shows the bloater grabbing your head with one hand, your lower jaw with the other and then snapping it off before the screen cuts to black
The one with the weird head the fought in the museum are Clickers. The newly infected are Runners. The dude that kissed Tess I belive is a Stalker. We have yet to see a Bloater, but I don't think we have to wait long ;)
for context, the directors said the "kissing scene" represents Tess not being able to resist the fungus, and what kills me more is how she's turning but still works so hard to burn the place down
An important thing to note: not ALL the flour in the world would've been contaminated btw. Just enough batches of it from some of the world's leading exporters.
Found you two just browsing TLOU reactions and I have to say, you are some of the best. You pick up on so much, are thoughtful and really pay attention. As someone who has played the game, I love seeing new people come into this world not knowing anything. It's a great, fresh perspective.
To your question: It was not said at the beginning of the show that the fungus prefers to grow in warmer regions, but that it might be able to adapt to grow in warmer hosts like a human body, which was not possible until then. Thisl means that it most likely still prefers dark, moist environments with lower temperatures. :)
There are 5 stages of the infected: 1. Runners (newly turned): those that you saw in the first episode and also this is the one that bti Ellie. 2. Stalker: this is what you saw at the end of this episode 'kissing' Tess. 3. Clicker (they're completely blind at this stage): the ones attacking them in the museum. 4. Bloaters (the huge one): Ellie mentioned on the road something about throwing spores at you, this is what she talked about. 5. The Rat King
I only watched the first full length trailer from 3 months ago, but Tess was clearly in it multiple times. More times than anyone other than Joel and Ellie, in fact. All of those scenes have played now, sadly.
Fungi are not plants, they don't use sunlight to perform photosynthesis for energy they feed on what they are attached to, or in this case what they are inside of. Usually fungi grow in moist dark places of suitable temperature. Light isn't needed for most of them to grow. But remember also, light is a form of radiation, and sunlight includes ultraviolet A B and C radiation, which are used as disinfectants. The atmosphere protects us from much of this radiation, but the fungi may not have as much tolerance for what gets through.
If they're fragmentation grenades, they'd be unlikely to ignite fuel (of course, her lighter realistically wouldn't either). Semtec, on the other hand...
I'm a hard-core Last of Us fan. Both episodes are fantastic adaptations! I appreciate all the call backs and ingame references and I think the big change with Tess at the end was actually an improvement from the way she died in the game 9.5/10.
As a super last of us fan I have to say my hats off for the special effects team they totally nailed it to the core with the detail. This episode was just as great as the first episode I am still super impressed with the series so far.
Just the opposite. Remember the 1st episode. The professor said the fungus can NOT live in organisms as warm as humans, unless the Earth overall got warming, forcing them to adapt or die. They prefer cooler temperatures.
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(Me whispering to the lady reacting to the show) "why are you whispering to the characters on the show, they can't hear you" (Me whispering to myself seconds later) "wait, why am I whispering to the womans reaction, they can't hear me either"
NOT yeast. the FLOUR. ONLY the flour MILLED at the Jakarta Mill, was infected. The fats and oils, yes - flour has them, goes rancid, do you think the 20 year old 2003 flour would be edible in 2023? So any NEW flour, milled in the US, would be fine. ANYONE can eats flour products from the local networks, IF they can get them.
The flour isn't what infected them. It's just something that most fungus like to eat. You can grow real insect cordyceps on brown rice or flour right now. If you cook them (bake into bread), they aren't going to survive. You just have to be very careful with storage.
@@riley8939 It was indeed CONTAMINATED flour that infected them. And NO, baking does NOT prevent fungus from spreading. After all, ERGOT poisoning comes from BAKED Rye Bread.
@@ChibiHoshiDragon Ergot poisoning comes from the chemicals produced by the fungus while it was on the grain. The heat from baking kills all of the living fungus, but does not destroy the poison it created. Cordyceps infection is from a living organism growing inside of a host. So baking the bread will kill it.
1st stage. Runners seemingly begin to experience hair loss, discolored skin accompanied with lesions, and bloodshot eyes. 2nd stage. Stalkers can be seen with significant fungal growth around their eyes and shoulders. Skin will begin to peel from the face, sometimes causing the nose to fall off, as the fungus begins to break open the skull. 3rd stage. Clickers are horrifically mutated by the infection. By this stage, the skull has been split open due to advanced fungal growth on the brain, growing over or outright destroying the host's eyes, only leaving behind a maw of teeth. They use echolocation to "see". The teeth are rotten and jagged, and their skin is covered in mold and scaly fungal growths. 4th and final stage. Bloaters, the fungal growth on bloaters is so advanced that it begins to form armored plates on the host, while also causing the body to bloat significantly. 1st episode showed runners, the newly infected. Most of the horde were runners with some stalkers in the mix. The infected that "made out" with Tess (rip) was a stalker. And the two infected in the museum were clickers
@@Bandalil i feel like it's not another stage but more of a merger of 2 two the stages, since at the 2nd phase of that fight, you can easily determine what they are composed of
Fungus likes dark, humid environments. In this universe cordyceps evolved to SURVIVE inside warmer host creatures, e.g. the human body, not to prefer heat. Fungus doesnt like sunlight and dont grow as well with UV exposure.
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16:06 You have been misinterpreting that statement by the scientist on the talk show. Human's internal body temperature is 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit. The scientist was stating how current mushroom could not stand temperatures above a certain temperature, because there was no need to, but it is what prevented them from infecting humans. He was saying if a global rise of temperature prompted an evolutionary change where they could host in humans, well I think you remember the rest. The point being, they don't like high temperatures. .
24:09 "who's they? Who are they waiting for? Is it someone for the trucks?" Well I guess it will help with all the spoilers they saw in the preview if they don't even remember what the primary task was
It doesnt make sense to me that ellie was just told she was going west and then joel and tess werent told where to go. Unless they were supposed to go to this spot and that was what was ‘west’?
adding to the question: it is not that they grow more in warmer environments, it is actually the opposite, they can't stand too much heat when the guest in the talk show talked about global warming, he meant that the earth getting warmer would put evolutive pressure on the fungi to evolve so it could stand warmer environments, therefore making it able to withstand our body heat They grew this large because humans are a huge source of nutrients and our social behaviors and global market makes it stupidly easy for the fungi to spread
You guys are still thinking of the infected like they're regular zombies. They aren't undead. Shooting an infected in the head will kill them dead but the fungus inside them survives for some time after. That's why some of them die and stick to walls as the fungus grows out of them
Fungi in general aren't very fond of sunlight. That's why the fungus in the game/show needed human hosts in the first place. So that they can grow somewhere where direct sunlight don't touch them, like for example, inside a human body. Even non-parasitic fungi tend to grow under dead trees or under shades.
Well, we can tell from the clues that were given in the show that the infected prefer to stay indoors and like dark moist places. Besides, in real life, dark places without sunlight are the perfect places for fungi to grow
"Why you guys play this game. It's scary". 😆 The videogame got me hooked when Joel's daughter, Sarah, died. I was like wow, this game has a storyline. Also, good gameplay for a zombie game. Better than Resident Evil series. Part 1 was where you were invested in the mission. Getting Ellie to the Firefly Base. Part 2 was mid. Still good gameplay and visuals still very good. But I didn't like the storyline. Tess dies in the beginning of the game early on as well. The infected do not like UV light. It thrives in cold dark areas. If there are no humans to infect. Then it will just eat the body up from the inside. Replacing muscle and tissue with cordycep fiber. That one infected guy went to Tess. It sensed she already had the fungi inside her. It wanted to connect. Very good episode. It showed where the virus originated. That wasn't in the videogame.
No spoilers from me. There are several stages of Infection. Stage One is the Runners, these are the ones who look almost human, Stage Two is Stalkers, so called because they actually hide and stalk their prey. They also have some fungus growth. Stage 3 is The Clickers who have had their brains taken over and sprout growth out of their skulls covering them. Stage 4 is a Bloater. This is essentially a complete fungus covered hardened armoured monster. There are more but that’s for later. 🙂 But as an adaption. Wow!!! incredible As a very difficult task to please the game fans and stand on its own as a TV Show and for 99% of us it works. And it works on two levels, even though we know the big things that are going to happen, we are looking for those things we recognise like Ellie seeing the view or crossing the plank. The Hotel, the Museum and Capitol Building and they are absolutely nailing it. And yet we keep getting surprised like the opening in Indonesia or Ellie waking up and getting the third degree. These are great scenes sometimes new, sometimes different but they all work. As a fan and as someone who understands the process of adaption they are doing a fantastic job. Glad you are enjoying it too. 10/10 for me. Can’t ask for more. 🙂
I don't think that that horde moving around earlier in the episode was about the infected not liking the sun. In the game we encounter them in daylight MANY times. I think that it was just showing that someone or something (an animal, perhaps) touched one of those tendril things and the network alerted them all to go to that location, together.
it's the sun, fungis don't like directed sunlights, they live in dark humid areas, it's a cool detail that you can't see so much in the game, but appreciate cause it's seems more realistic
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i kinda didnt like the way they finished off tess here. i prefer what they did in the game. the scene felt way more emotional there for me than the adaptation. there was more back and forth between joel and tess to really intensify the sense of desperation from tess. i think the kiss was also very unnecessary here in the show. they shouldve ended the episode with ellie blaming herself rather than just that shot of her standing.
Please watch the video game version of this scene. It’s way more emotional. Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson are such great actors, im really finding Pedro lacking in his Joel interpretation.
Stage 1 are Runners. Stage 2 are Stalkers. Stage 3 are the iconic "Clickers". Stage 4 are Bloaters -15 - 20 years old infected). Stage 5 are only in The Last of Us Part II game. Those are called "Shamblers" .
So much confusion about the stages of infected. 1. Runner: right after turning. 2. Stalker: half way to clicker. Usually has mushrooms on head but still has a face. This is what kisses Tess. 3. Clicker: the deaf ones that echo-locate using clicks. This is what bites Tess. Face is gone. 4. Bloater: biggest and oldest infected. Covered in mushroom armor.
I guess you never played the game because you are missing 3 classes of infected. Also, the Bloater is NOT the biggest. Had you played TLOU 2, you would know who the biggest is...
I can give ya a run down of the forms real quick. Runners - The most common type. They almost look like normal people, but they still clearly aren't. Stalkers - This was the one that kissed Tess. They have a bit of fungus growing out of their head but not too much. Clickers - You know the type. The ones that are fully blind and, as you put it, "looked like they have a butt on their head." Bloaters - They haven't appeared in the show yet, but god I am gonna be terrified for when they do...
"she's an orphan" and most important (SPOILER) she's lesbian KEK For who don't know, i liked so much how Ellie interacted with the enviroment in the hotel, literally like in the game. Ellie have this thing to touch and have fun with everything she see (and sometimes this cause troubles), and i love how the put it in the episode
