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Their acting throughout the series has been incredible. I could practically feel Ellie’s pain when she reacted to being bit for the first time. emmys need to just be thrown at the cast
I liked how Ellie was essentially repeating the stuff Cpt. Kwong told her. She doesn't necessarily believe (all of) what she's saying. She's just trying to get Riley to come back with her.
Well Riley’s recruitment into the Fireflies confronts Ellie w/ the prospect of having to fight her etc etc; so it’s either desperately find a way to reel her back, or various terrible options as to how to lose her
There was such an element of child-like exploration for both characters. The payoff was Joel and Ellie holding hands near the end. To be fair, gentlemen, your reactions to the mall and the arcade were just so pure and touching.
The idea of Ellie and Riley staying together over the night, expecting to turn together, to Ellie promising to stay awake with Sam, brings so much more weight to the written "I'm sorry" she left on his grave. ( ╥_╥)
Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey hardly had dialogue in this episode, but you felt the tension and panic without words being said in that room. Storm Reid and Bella Ramsey also had amazing chemistry, too. Let's all basically skip school in a post apocalyptic world. I also love how at the end Ellie is nervous, but she's committed to help Joel get better no matter what by sewing his wound because she lost Riley and doesn't want to lose Joel next because he's the second person she loved since Riley. God the storytelling is fantastic.
The fact that Riley was the reason she didn’t want to give up on Joel. “I don’t want to give that up” She remembered that moment where Riley wasn’t going to give up on Ellie and stayed by her said until the end.
Both Ellie and Riley are leaning in two different directions were they both know it will end up with them fighting each other. And it's obvious they don't want that, especially when she saw the bombs, Riley knows if Ellie is Fedra they will not spare her or listen to her, same if Riley is a Firefly. They both desperately trying to convince each other, even tho they both have doubts.
Left Behind's story has always been near and dear to my heart. I loved getting to know Ellie more, get to know who she was before all this, what made her who she is, what makes her fight so hard for those she loves. It is an important bridge between Part 1 & 2 for Ellie's character. Bella Ramsey did a stellar job in this episode. Probably the best she's been in this show, and she's been REALLY good throughout. Loved the images of Ellie interlocking her fingers with Riley's hand, and then later doing the same with Joel. Everyone left her or died. She'll be damned if she lets Joel die without a proper fight.
I’m didn’t find the age-up on Riley effective and it changes the dynamic between her and Ellie as well as Marlene to a lesser extent: the wiki claims Riley is 16+ despite having no source citation and the DLC characterizing her much younger
@@hellfish2309 Riley is 15 in American Dreams and 16 in Left Behind (the official site used to have this information. But ofc, that address is now being used for Part 1). Ellie was 14 in Left Behind and in the summer chapter of TLoU. She is 15 as the game ends. Riley has always been a bit older than Ellie. So her dynamic with Ellie is the same as it's always been: a slightly older friend who protected Ellie from bullies + her crush. And unlike in the games + comics... Ellie doesn't know about Marlene until after she's bitten (really doesn't make too much of a difference. Only Riley knew her. And there really isn't much to their dynamic outside of firefly leader and new recruit. Ellie only knew Marlene for all of 3 weeks in the games. Here she only knows her for like a day. But she feels attached to her cuz Marlene knows about Ellie and her mom. And as for Marlene... In both mediums, she kept tabs on Ellie from afar. So yeah. Nothing significant changes, really.
@@hellfish2309 anywhere you look online, it'll say she's 16. The Wikia used to cite the game's official site as a source, but that site had it's content changed and doesn't have that but of information anymore (On account of the TLoU Remake being launched). I'm sure that if you look through an interview with the devs or actors, you'll find this information, too. But I'm not home look through all that rn. I've given you the info I have. Believe it, or don't. Idrc.
This episode, just like the Left Behind DLC, is both heartwarming and heartbreaking. When Ellie and Riley are having the time of their lives playing around the mall and especially the arcade I felt absolutely elated. I especially loved how this was also a first date between them, even though they didn’t really know it was a date. And then when they finally kissed I couldn’t help but hold my heart because I thought it would burst from pure joy. And after they both get bit I felt my heart break even harder than in the game. On the “Inside The Episode” after the show they talked about how even though Ellie felt absolutely defeated she still wants to savor every second of time that she has with the ones she loves. And it shows when she is stitching Joel up and the Left Behind theme is playing. For God’s sake just give Bella Ramsey the Emmy!
It's honestly breathtaking how much chemistry Pedro and Bella have with each other in this show, didn't speak a single word in that final scene yet you know exactly what they're both thinking just through their expressions and gestures, just incredible from both of them
I am so stoked for next episode, this next chapter is the full formation of Ellie, imo. Loved that The Cure's Just Like Heaven was playing on the carousel- great foreshadowing- a song about loss disguised in beautiful notes and happy beats, just what the band intended, but it hits hard here. See? I'm a nerd, too! 🤣🤣🤣
One thing I think is great is all the hints we got in earlier episodes that none of the reactors I've watched have mentioned. in episode 1 Marlene asks Ellie if she thought Riley was bad because she was a firefly. In episode 3 we saw Ellie find the mk2 arcade and going on about Mileena eating you and spitting out your bones which they showed here. We also got the clue in episode 2, talking to Tess Ellie said she got bit by going in the mall. episode 4 she tells Joel it wasn't her first time liking someone. Lots of hints to this episode
The way Bella Ramsey can just completely immerse you in a scene, she is so amazing. The chemistry, the emotions, and especially facial expressions. The look in her eye during the stitching scene reminded me so much of the scene where she is watching joel beat the guard in episode 1. Pure fear and adrenaline.
Such an amazing episode. Love every bit of it! It made me think and talk about what we take for granted. My mom and I talked about, the video stores, the magazines of games that I still have. The joy on Ellie her face as she sees the wonders of the mall. Absoluty amazing, the connection between Riley and Ellie, and Ellie and Joel. Listening to the podcast after watching the episode made me smile. This show is amazing. I love it so much❤️
Having not played the game, the dread was there all the way through thanks to them setting it up in episode 2 when Ellie tells Tess about being in the mall. I could barely watch the mall scenes 😄 I'm guessing Riley is the person she's killed when she says to Joel it wasn't her first kill in ep4?
It's a slower episode but I feel it was an important one to get a better understanding of who Ellie is and how her previous experiences have shaped her.
As someone who has played both games, multiple times, I have no complaints. They have done such a wonderful job adapting the game to show, keeping what made the game(s) so fantastic, while making the show it’s own thing as well. Bella and Pedro are doing such a fantastic job! This was possibly my favorite episode by far!
So many reaction videos to this episode where they call the infected in the mall a clicker. It was not a clicker it could see and it did not do the clicking noise.
Judging by how long it took to get to Ellie and Riley, I'm guessing Calvin nailed it with the stalker suggestion. It would have woken up and cautiously crept closer before rushing out at them, and it did look to be about halfway between a runner and a clicker in the facial area. But yes... not everything is a clicker. 😂
@@erinhaury5773 i did not think it looked anything like a clicker. It had fungus growing out of the head yes but Nothing that covered the entire top of the face. It looked closer to What Ellie found in the basement in episode 3.
It was a Stalker, not a Clicker. They are the stage between Runner and Clicker. A Stalker usually have one eye left and can still see, before the fungus destroys the eyes completely and they finally become Clickers.
The look that Ellie has when she's sewing up Joel.. pure fear and adrenaline that transitions into a manic and almost excited hope. She's pretty ruthless, and she recognizes the huge step Joel has just allowed them to make by trusting her.
I know this wasn't the point of the episode but it is a **genuine** shame that pretty much nowhere now has those photo booths with a strip of 4 different photos. 😕 I still have ones we took years ago and they are lovely timecapsules. Ahhhhhhhh, nostalgia.
I disagree with Eric about games not conveying emotions as well as live-action. It’s definitely a subjective thing to be able to connect more with a real person, but you can definitely pick up on “unconscious communication” in the game because the character performances are very much real as well as the emotional beats. To me nothing about it being a game takes away from that.
I feel like the game’s version of this episode’s events in particular are much more subtle and I personally like that better. That said, I am glad to hear that there are other people who like the show more.
Maybe it's been a while since he played the DLC because you are absolutely right. There are a lot of nuances in the acting and facial animation of the game that is left unsaid by the characters.
"I like how the apocalypse is just downtown Marietta." Nice to know it apparently hasn't changed in the roughly 15 years since I was there last. Or in the roughly 35 years since I was there first.
I've been noticing a lot of people who seem to think the show is "rushing a 14+ hour story", as if a substantial part of the game isn't just walking, killing infected/raiders, and walking some more, which is *stage dressing* for the actual story between joel and ellie. it's not a goddamn action thriller about a pair of super murderers just going on a rampage.
Thank you for getting this. It's frustrating how many people don't seem to realize that the majority of your time together in the game is during pure gameplay sections, not in cutscenes. Cut all that out and you're left with a fairly concise story.
@@erinhaury5773 i think it’s fair to expect some more bridging of gaps etc, even if we’re not following our characters across those (3) months every hour etc… I think the missed opportunities include a ‘stealth’ scene in the KC underground (admittedly hard to produce and film), a flashback of Joel putting the screws to that ‘one FEDRA captain’, a John-Mctiernan-style firefight escaping the University and a micro horror movie sequence of Riley and Ellie trying to escape the stalker I think it’s fair for some people to judge the season as slightly dependent on jumping from climactic watershed moments of drama …. FAR from the same scale of indictment of Daenaerys towards the end of GoT, but same complaint
@@hellfish2309all of that stuff is unnecessary except for the university escape. I feel like that scene would've been cool to have but really the story and the show do fine without all those parts
People mostly just want more action, it feels like. But what they're missing is that this isn't an action show, it's a drama in a post-apocalypse setting. The game has all that action and stealth for gameplay purposes, but in a show a lot of that wouldn't serve a real purpose. Every action scene should have a reason to exist in a good TV or film story other than just spectacle and excitement. If it doesn't serve to either change the character in some way or further the plot, it's unnecessary. Same with people saying stuff like "there aren't enough Infected in the show." Did you know that originally the game wasn't supposed to have any infected either, and the disease instead just killed everyone like a plague? But they changed it for the game because from a *gameplay* perspective, it's easier to get the danger of the infection across if it's an enemy you fight. (This is mentioned in the "making of" documentary, Grounded.) In the show with no gameplay, the infected don't serve that same purpose so naturally they become more of a background aspect of the story. They're mostly a framing device for the apocalypse, but Craig Mazin has openly said he doesn't really care about the infected. The story isn't about killing zombies, it's about Joel and Ellie. This isn't the Walking Dead, where it often felt like the show had a producer mandated quota of minimum amount of zombies per episode. Edit: This isn't to say that I think action and spectacle are inherently wrong to want. Hell, I love stupid action movies like John Wick that prioritize action over story. But if you want to tell a heartfelt and emotional story like the Last of Us, drama is the more fitting genre for that.
I loved this episode and how we really got to know Ellie and how tenacious she is. Terrified of being alone because she was left behind over and over again. But she finds this one person who she grows close to, who becomes a father figure to her, and she will cling to him, and drag him back into the land of the living even if she has to sew his wound with her bare hands. Such a tragic story between her and Riley but i think it was incorporated perfectly here, because it explains Ellie's motivations, and everything that we see really makes sense.
the comic book store is my wonder. I'd go every week just to look at the new issues coming in. I can't afford them at the time but looking at them felt I was connected to the thing I loved. eventually, growing up I was able to afford them and it still holds a place in me. it feels different when you actually go to a physical store and peruse what's on the SALE bin or on the display area. I just love it
We really are all gluttons for punishment, aren't we? Every week they find a new way to rip your heart out, but it is so damn good you can't stop watching.
11:47 I'm just gonna say THE TALENT, THE PASSION, THE ASTONISHING VOCALS they put into this improvised performance is beyond my comprehension! ✨✨✨ Ok no but seriously, somehow I wanted more 🤣 Great reaction, guys!💙
I’ve never played the game but this show is amazing, heartbreaking, exhausting and damn fine writing. Love watching your reactions and gotta bit more insight to the game. Love that you all don’t hold back on your emotions. 😊
This show is so good at making you think something is gonna happen and it never does. I was on edge this entire episode, thinking an infected would pop out at any moment. The fact that they gave us like 15 minutes between showing the infected and him actually popping out was so mean but so good. I was so tense and that's what makes a fantastic thriller.
I like the idea of the separation between the game and the show being the action, making the game have that extra that honestly works best at that media just feels right. This separation also justifies both versions existing, on top of making the story more accessible to non gamers of course. I'm just really curious as to how they'll handle TLOU 2, seeing as the action and violence is a big part of the theme and story from that game and I don't know how they could tone the action down without taking away from the experience, but they've been doing such a good job so far (let's see how the hospital section will turn out) so I'll try to trust them.
*Ellie's* reaction to seeing the _Mortal Kombat II_ machine in episode 3 doesn't make much sense now. I would have thought she'd see that and feel sad. But she was thrilled and excitedly told the story about how someone she knew had a magazine (or whatever) all about the game. Anyway, her excited reaction seeing that stand up console in the old gas station doesn't quite track now. 🤷🏼♂️
exactly, when she sees ''the turning'' machine in the game she doesn't sound excited, more like melancholic and sad while remebering that Riley knew a lot about the game
Might be a stretch but….. i really liked the kind of foreshadowing they did here. When ellie was on the moving stairway (dont know what its called hahah) take on me was playing ( the happy upbeat version). But she is only going downhill, even if she walks the stairs up…. In the end she will go eventually. Thats what kinda happens to her in the second game, but this time with take on me in the sad melancholic version
