I think the scariest part of Ellie is her almost death-wish like determination. She’s willing to rip herself to pieces to get what she wants. And if she can do that to herself, just imagine what she can do to others.
It's great they kept her coarse habit of speaking. *How'd you find me?* *I asked about a dude with a bitch scar across his face.* Ouch, I can almost hear the sizzle.
i was stuck trying to figure out who tf jordan's voice actor was cause it sounded so familiar and i haven't googled it but i'm pretty sure it's the same guy who voiced young sam from uncharted 4, correct me if i'm wrong 😭
that'd be true only if they would keep her like in the first game. In this, she doesn't even make sense most of the time. Neither Joel nor Ellie's character is not the same as in the first game.
@@larissamodesto3517 but how could she change so much that she hates Joel even after everything he has done for her? That isn't really realistic. Let's not forget that Joel and Tommy have gone so soft that they tell a group of random strangers their names and where they live... this game doesn't make sense
Soufian Ghalb the things are tense between J and E because she was ready to die for the world and J is an egoistic piece of shit, haven’t you been paying attention to the plot?
Ellie was a un-killable monster in this game, nothing could phase her. The first time she experienced the scars terrifying hunting skills, she killed them all and shrugged it off like nothing happened. She really had no equal.
She’s an absolute badass! She charges alone, in a foreign city with two warring factions. Yes, it’s reckless and pretty self-destructive but it is also goddamn fearless. She is a one woman army.
Adrenaline will pump you up enough where, in a situation like that, combined with your body going into survival-instinct mode, you won't notice jack sh## until it's over.
This game is so realistally brutal, I had to take a break after finishing it. Now, I'm ready to play it again. Also, Nora is the only one I didn't feel bad for, after the way she talked about Joel.
Well Its kinda true what nora said he did what he did he got what he deserved :( don't get me wrong I love joel as a charakter but yeah u know tlou 1's hospital happend and abby happend and all the other shit happend still love this game 7.5 In my opinion :)
Ellie has to be one of the most loved video game characters of all time. They finally made a normal character that’s also a woman. I love everything about this game.
@@ROCKY-yv4ed did you even play the game because I played it blind and had an amazing time. You just can't get over Joel dying and your letting it poison the story for you.
@@niall798 it's not just about Joel's death, he would have die anyway, but the plot it literally shit, unrealistic and ridiculous. Woman with a man body, stupid motivation for KILLING NPC, player don't care about Abby, her character is empty. And dont forget the cherry on top, pregnant woman doing man's job, yeah that sooo "badass". The graphics are amazing, but plot gives me headache, and If you think this game is good, you have so problems.
this game is really very brutal and they didn't even exaggerate, if you look at how pitiless and brutal people can be in parts of the world today, TLOU2 is still harmless
I love how brutal Ellie is in this game, she’s underestimated because she’s a scrawny teenage girl but little do they know she was adopted and raised by some of the most brutal motherfuckers in the apocalypse, dont fuck with the Miller brothers or the killing machines they create
Watching the Ellie scenes again it’s interesting to see smaller moments explained by what happened during Abby’s scenes. Like when the soldier asks why the power was on in the hospital, I didn’t think anything of it first time but now I realise it was bc Abby was down there first
Spoilers ahead I loved Nora's death the most imo. The way Ellie knows once she throws themselves down there, Nora will die either way. And the way she beats her to get what she wants is perfectly articulated because after she kills her, and shows up at the cinema. You can see how shaken up she is. Since we have been in the dark over the last 5 years, we can only assume the last person she beat like that was in fact David. How broken she felt once Joel pulled her off of him. The fact it shoes how much it fucked her up like it did when she killed David is SUCH good attention to detail. The ending may have sucked, but Nora's death was perfect.
Totally agree! But imo the ending worked very well. I understand the hate towards Abby, but personally I did develope a bond with her over time. Its incredibly hard to explain, but I guess , in the end , there was this cyclical loop of violence throughout the 2 games, Joel killing Abby's dad, which leads to her killing Joel, which leads to Ellie killing all of Abby's friends, which leads to jeeses death and Tommy's maiming. So they've inflicted soooo much damage to each other, physically and mentally. So I like that , as Ellie is drowning Abby in the ocean at the end, she sees that flash of Joel on the porch, and stops drowning Abby. The only way to end the cycle of vengeance is to step out of the loop. I feel that was a very mature way to end this story, and it shows Ellie's growth. That was the most that 19 year old Ellie felt like 14 year old Ellie from the first game. She never liked killing, she did it because she had to.
@@MrAlexkaysyou Exactly, all of this. There's this underlying feeling as you're playing through the game as Ellie that a part of her really doesn't want to be doing this. You can see it in the way she's shaken after Nora. You can see it in the way she hesitates for a second before killing the WLF with the Vita even though she's actively trying to kill her. You see it in the way that by the time Ellie reaches Owen and Mel, she's not even looking to kill them, even though they were at the lodge too; she just wants Abby's location. Everything in Seattle happens so fast, but any time Ellie has a chance to breathe after doing something terrible, you can tell what she's doing is affecting her and she's not far from falling apart. It starts to feel like a ride she doesn't know how to get off of. The game takes on a new light when you consider that part of Ellie's reason for going after Abby and the rest is because she feels obligated to do it for Joel. Like she said before leaving Jackson, if the situation were reversed, Joel would have done it for her. He _did_ do it for her, on two occasions. Considering how frayed their relationship was when Joel died, not going after his killers feels like a disservice to his memory and fills Ellie with more guilt over how she left things with him. It's why she has such a hard time letting go when she's at the farm later. Throughout her quest for justice/revenge you can see Ellie almost emulating Joel; her increasing ruthlessness, the torture of Nora for info, the attempt at the Joel (and Tommy) method of questioning with Mel and Owen. But unlike Joel, who learned to separate himself from his actions in the name of survival and was never too bothered by it, Ellie was never the kind of person who could inflict pain on others in a detached way and not be affected by it. That's why, like you said, letting Abby go is such an important moment for Ellie. She realizes she doesn't have to continue on this path that's caused her nothing but more pain and can honor Joel's memory by letting go of the residual anger she felt towards him over his actions and the guilt she felt over that anger. (I know I just ended up agreeing with what you said, but I kinda just wanted to talk about it with someone who got it. There really aren't many opportunities to talk about Ellie's journey and the ending positively since a lot of people didn't like it.)
Ellie was standing which would enable her leg muscles and whole body to provide support whereas the Vita girl was sitting in a very disadvantageous position.
This game actually made me want to use photo mode, and let me tell ya, the graphics make some pictures look like real pictures or professional screenshots
That was probably his reward. She shot him once and he died seconds later. A better fate then being left to bleed out or eaten by whatever infected passes you by. Hell his reward was not seeing the full extent of what Ellie can do to someone.
Love when she pushes the guy into the clicker. It makes sense that her immunity would give her an advantage against other people cus no one's expecting someone to risk getting bit or scratched.
playing the child card is useless and was too late, despite it's morally broken. If one intended to kill someone, expect to be killed. The mother's death is caused by Owen's own reckless action of not complying before anything turns ugly and chose to walk the toughest route. Things would have been smooth if either of them mentioned she has a child to protect and is willingly cooperate in the first place, which was the best timing to play the card. Who would attack a mother carrying her child? Oh wait, there's one already in the game.
@@rodrigoleija4307 this may be a year ago but nah Ellie didn't do the same thing, Abby tried shooting her first in the theatre before Tommy stopped her
I didn’t think this was as bad as people are saying. So many people love it. It’s a journey about emotional progress. Not just violence and victory. That’s not always the ending.
Illquan Benjamin Everything can be made better. That’s how life gets better, we progress in quality. That’s how we live with happiness. I just don’t think people should turn their backs or spit on it because it didn’t live up to their ideal expectations.
Nope, the most satisfying death ever is when you attack Ellie head on as Abby in the theatre fight. Ellie then blows her guts off with a shotgun before redesigning her face. I can't stop watching it
Seeing how much Ellie has been through the past 2 games is truly incredible. And no matter how people feel about how Joel ruined her chances at helpping make a cure, Ellie loved Joel and vise versa
@@MUSIC3787 I'm so done with the whole Abby thing. I didn't even want to hunt her down again in the end because at that point I just didn't care. I still hated her in the end but only because she bored me for 10 hours. And I knew that going after her wouldn't solve anything for Ellie. But you go after her and don't kill her? If there is a 3rd game I don't want her in it at all. Her whole story is already far too long
@@mrpotatocream9499 I just don't even know how a 3rd game is even possible for Ellie. I mean the whole point of her final choice was to randomly "end the cycle of violence" but if theres a 3rd game then theres obviously...more violence and revenge. Which is beyond stupid at this point
@@EmilJustinCerio why do people hate abby so much? Her motivation was much more justifiable than ellie's. Is everyone just super salty that you have to play as joels killer?
@@squizaaard Cause we have been attached to Joel and Ellie from a long, long time. And if a fucking hulk with "good reasons" steps in to kill that relationship... what would you expect?
The bit where she gets bit on purpose and then turns and just shreds the dudes leg was so well done I felt like it was from an actual zombie show or movie. There are some really great shocking badass moments like that in this game that were for sure not in the first one.
One of my biggest fears coming into this game was that I would end up hating Ellie (who is in my top 5 favorite video game characters of all time) because of her actions, fortunately that didn't happen.
@Arne Botha the fact that they killed him so easily is very representative of TLOU's world. i mean youre in a post-apocalpytic world, you can die at any moment, so him dying that way is realistic and expected in that world. i mean what did you all expect? him dying peacefully happily ever after when he made a LOT of ennemies wanting him dead? him dying brutally was the obvious choice for the continuation of the story, he's not invincible and can die as easily as any other character most of the hate this game got is mostly by people who cant accept joel's death. and that means the game worked on them, lol, they feel the same as ellie. the game wanted us to seek revenge for ellie, and most of the players felt that way, whether you hate the game or not. the game also wanted us to hate abby, and playing her was a way to understand that while we can hate her, she's going through the same things as ellie. their stories are similar. with abby's perspective, ellie is a sick psychopath. with ellie's perspective, abby is also a sick psychopath. if you hate abby, well congrats because thats what the developers wanted you to feel so the story worked. you cant convince otherwise lmao + a lot of the other criticism on the game is because of its supposedly "SJW" nature. i don't find that criticism valid IMO, i mean if youre a confident white hetero cis man, why are you mad about minorities being represented? youre that insecure seeing minorities? i mean ellie's been gay since 2013, why are you mad only NOW? where were you before? or are you just following a trend of hating on minorities representation because you literally have no personnality? youre not a chad. youre just an insecure individual incapable of seeing minorities being happy that they're finally recognized. its an issue we can see everywhere now, the tv show ms marvel, while having good reviews, has been review bombed just because its main protagonist is a muslim woman. you have to have a very miserable life to hate on cultural works only on the basis of the sexual orientation, race, origin, skin colour, religion or any other characteristics of a character making them different from the others. (when im saying you, im talking generally, not someone specific) so yeah the game is a masterpiece for me and i've yet to see any constructive negative review not including being mad about joel's death or the representation of minorities. (also lets be serious, even if youre mad about those two, how does the game deserve getting a 0 mark? 💀ive seen people being mad about those two but still praising the graphics and the music and yet they're giving out those 0s?? be serious, people hating only for the sake of it)
i loved this game when it came out. i’m one of the few i know, but it’s just so gritty and brutal yet beautiful and sad and even a little nostalgic. great game.
I gotta say. Despite how much hate the game gets and how bad the story may or may not be, Ellie is still my favourite game character and probably one of the most badass ever
Everyone hates on the second game but it was so brutal and realistically showed trauma and its effects. I personally really enjoyed the story and the graphics were absolutely phenomenal, replay it all the time
16:04 and that is why tlou is one of the best stories ever told. The emotions that a scene like this causes are a testament to this work of art, with all it’s flaws, even with abby’s gameplay being one of the worst things I’ve ever experienced in my life, anything that can make me feel like this is a masterpiece the way I see it.
The Santa Barbara part if awesome! With the music, Ellie all bloody and injured but still thinking on her feet. Man I wish that part of the game was actually longer
you misinterpreted the ending i see. ellie sparing abby was part of her forgiving joel and herself. abby was just getting the same type of revenge ellie was, and abby had a kid to take care for like joel once did. ellie already killed everything else abby had, killing abby wouldn't have left her content
ELLIE is one of the gratest game characters i'v ever seen her personality is like a normal person so i got more conection with her than every other characters
@@legoyoda4149 I really like the story, not liking something doesnt make it objectively bad, same as liking something doesnt make it good. Saying 'the story is ass' because YOU dont like it is very self-centered
This game is so much better than I remember, it is my favourite game of all time but I never really appreciated it when I first played it, I really need to replay it I love this game so much
Literally the only person I felt bad for was Owen because he was the only one that tried defusing the situation rather than instigating, it didn’t work since he died but it made me like him out of all of Abby’s friends.
