The Last Time We Talk About Jojo Siwa - Here's Why... 

The thing about what made Miley's transition so great was that it wasn't announced.. she just did it.

Miley in 2013 was not just an aesthetic change it was a life altering time for her. She didn’t change for her music her music changed because of who she was at the time.

To be clear, Brith Smith didn't release her version before Jojo's on purpose, someone found it and posted brit's version from years ago and it blew up. Brit originally was pitched the song and sang it but didn't go with it, only officially releasing it after Jojo released hers which could count as a cover. Brit didn't sell it to her, brit didn't release her version as soon as Jojo teased hers as a sort of "take backsies", people just found stuff and posted it.

This whole ass situation is just a deflection of the fact she contributed to a toxic work environment and she has continually defended known predators

Wow Hila looks literally stunning 🤩

Ethan got the whole story wrong. Brit Smith did not write the song or even sell it to JoJo. She recorded it as a demo and had a music video produced but then the studio scrapped it. Brit has never said anything negative about JoJo or even the song. I think the outlash on JoJo is the fact she would say in interviews how she worked on the song for two years with producers when really only one word was changed. The song itself was basically the same with just the background music a bit more modern. And when people came out against JoJo and claiming to do it on Brit's behalf, Brit released a video saying she had no issue at all with JoJo and reiterated she did not own or write the song. So glad the chat corrected them on the situation

I'm gay- and whilst there is music that has been associated with the gay scene traditionally - like disco and Hi-NRG back in the day- and while artists such as Madonna and Kylie Minogue are referred to as gay icons- I don't really think there's anything specifically "gay pop". I don't think I am considered part of Jojo Siwa's target audience (48yr old male me- and she ain't my cup of tea, though taste in music needn't be dictated by someone's age), I just think she's a 20yr old who maybe is just flapping her gums to be a little provocative without really thinking things through before she says them. But hey- whilst I wasn't a pop star when I was her age, I'm certain that I said a lot of dumb sh*t at the time just without the whole world watching 🙅‍♂️ I think folks should maybe ease up on her a little. But someone please take her aside and have a quiet word with her about that car with her face plastered all over it 🙄🤣

I could have sworn the "source" was JoJo herself at her "album launch listening party" - the one where she was lipsyncing and partially screeching into the mic on a small stage. I could have sworn she SAID she wrote the song about her ex. The only place I've seen any jojo content is on H3 and DWKT, so that clip must have been covered on one of these channels 🤔

She said that she wrote the song two years ago before the internet found out another artist did a cover on it. There’s an actually interview

Saying 'this is about me ex' is saying 'I wrote this about me ex'! Stop dancing around it.

Loads of famous songs aren't written by the associated artist. •Ed sheeran wrote 'love yourself' by justin bieber. •Jessie j wrote 'party in the usa' by miley cyrus. •Neyo wrote 'irreplaceable' by beyonce. •Dolly parton wrote 'i will always love you' by Whitney houston. •Bebe Rexha wrote 'the monster' by Rihanna & eminem. •Harry styles wrote 'just alittle bot of your heart' by Arianna grande I could go on.

Lol some hate in the comments already? Did yall not read the title? If you're not interested don't watch. If you aren't enjoying the show anymore, don't watch 😂

Why does she always speak as though she's telling you that the world in ending in a minute?

They’re so far apart it looks kinda weird😅 so much space in between

Lady Gaga is a gay icon whatttt Ethan 😮 every gay man I know is obsessed with her you’d think she was gay

Her "transition" is just inorganic it's so clearly staged. She walks around with the same ballet bun she's had for the last 20 years, wearing the same bedazzled clothes like??? She could have just sung the songs she wanted to without announcing it like this.

jojo needs to leave our queen miley out of this lmao what miley did was iconic and authentic. what jojo is doing is just a distraction from her being horrible to children

She reminds me sum how of a chain smoking mom meets Ellen lmao I don’t know why but that’s the vibe I get lol

LP and Troye Sivan are too openly gay icons who are amazing and its not just because the used who they are sexually attracted to as a look at me they just where showing love stories with there orientation without making it a big deal or pushing that is special because its gay as a selling point JoJo is trying to hard if she just released the song without trying to push that being gay is a huge deal she would have done better with it. Its somewhat alienating to be like this music is for gay people and it needs to be categorised as that, its making boxes where its separate which is not what the world needs, If she wrote it herself she could relate it to her personal life more too if she wants to tell a story JOJO thinks she's badass cos she said the B word in a song and wore black haha pushing the fact you like woman as special is childish lots of people men and woman are attracted to woman its normal.

She literally just totally disregarded Sam Smith's existence

To me it just looks like JoJo has completely taken Abbys (the horrid dance teacher?) persona. Its like she might not have even developed her own personality yet. Everything she says sounds like a PR manager word for word. Theres a creepy Narssissism type thing there.

This show feels like everyone is just walking grandpa ethan through everything as he never has a handle on what is actually going on around him

Let’s not forget that JoJo is a friend of known predators like Colleen and James…I consider this whole low-rent Kiss/Miley thing she’s doing to be deflecting from that as a protective measure for when the shit goes down years from now and she’s implicated in an expose like Quiet On The Set but for content creators.

Idk why this 99 cents store Miley Cyrus is getting so much attention

I can't believe you guys are talking about f****** Jojo whatever the f*** And not Drake and Kendrick?!!... You used to be friends with rappers bro What happened😂😂😂

Ethan is for the people, love you king. 🎉

Gay Pop is not a genre. Is there gay metal? Gay folk? Gay country? Since when do we classify music based on the artist’s sexual preferences? Weird.

9:21 Elon bought twitter. He now owns it. He can’t say that he built it tho

As a gay, jojo siwa is the last person I’d want to represent us

Why aren’t we talking about the abuse allegations against Jojo?!

It seems to me like Jojo was trying to imply that she wrote both the songs without directly claiming to write them. This is EXTREMELY common in the music industry, so she probably wasn't expecting anyone to point it out. She probably really had no idea who Brit Smith was and didn't think anyone would care this much. Honestly, I think people are only this upset because 1) they don't like Jojo and 2) she's been hyping up this god-awful dance/song for a long time That being said, I don't like Jojo or her version of the karma song at all xD. I also hope Emeline can still release her version of Choose Your Fighter because I thought it sounded great in the TikTok

This is so dumb. If I sing someone else's song about my feeling, that's still about my own feelings.

For me Jo Jo saying she’s so proud of the art that she created…. What art did she create?? If it’s just the choreography she’s taking about then fine but she’s implying the song itself is her art.

In seconds, I can list three artists that are better for suited for CEO of gay pop, Renee Rapp, Chappel Roan, and MUNA.

Pls talk about Kendrick

There’s a video

Did Jojo seem drunk in that tmz video or is it just me? I'm a recovered alcoholic and from human to human... bad behavior aside, what if she's going thru it and self medicating? Anyone else get that vibe? I mean she is 20 and idk seems to have looked up to and learned stuff from bad ppl and now she's where she's at with the public. I don't know enough to say so I plead ignorance. Plz don't come for me. I'm not a fan, only thing I knew abt her was when I was 20 and my niece was like 5 and was super into her bows she would wear and her youtube stuff.

Idk why, but i was expecting something other than the same thing that's been covered for the past fortnight

Ummmm Joni definitely said in an interview “when I was writing karma”

The other girls didn’t even write the song either 😂 idk how she was able to release it too if Jojo bought it tho

This is what gay girls used to act like back in early thousands mega Butch

She looks like Bowser in that backpack

Jojo's just a kid. She's having fun. Is she a bit cringe? Yes, but you are allowed to be at that age. She'll grow out of it and if she doesn't who cares?

I can't follow this story, she's a child star and it never ends well and it's hard to watch

I agree Ethan !! Everyone just wants to hate on Jojo because people like banning together to drag people down for no reason

Jojo did not need to "come out" we already new it..She clearly has brain damage from the tight pony tails.

I mean whenever I listen to songs that remind me of someone I’ll always be like “this song is for *insert a$$ hole ex boyfriends name here*”

Ethan what happened to you ? I just got out of jail Last time I seen was u and Idubs collaboration

she has vape voice

If singing about love/relationships when you're gay is GayPop, then is everything else StraightPop? Gays have turned in tot he new vegans. How do you know if someone is gay? They'll tell you. And they'll make sure you know that their music is not just Pop, it's GayPop.

I hope she does bring more attention to the gays and their pop! I'm too old to hate on such a youngin!

Lil nas x is so gay pop

Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard.

Gay pop, bi pop, hetero pop, object pop, solo pop, everything pop, undecided pop, experimental pop, unlabeled pop, secret pop, nothing pop. #progressive 😂

Shes delusionallllllllll

She needs help

With peace and love, maybe don’t discuss a topic you don’t have all the info about? Lots of misinfo in here

I'm just here for the future mental breakdown from another classic narcissistic celebrity.

Love love but Loves takes are getting worse peace and love love

Personally, I think if she wanted to do something revolutionary she should have done love/ breakup exclusively from a women to a woman. I’m sure that exists but acknowledging that it is still done rarely and that non straight songs should be more normalized because heterosexual love songs still seem to be the most popular ones, would have been an effing great move.

she aint my queen

Good, you’re talking about drama from a month ago at this point. Jojo is a lying brat, stop defending her.

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Hey JOJO……ummmm do you even know what is going on in PALESTINE RIGHT NOW!? Free Palestine! 🇵🇸 but nah all you care about is yourself and your attention.

Stop talking completely please

Well her flip wasn't severe enough to be a significant change and also Miley didn't hype her change or her flip or her transition before she did it. Miley just came out with wrecking Ball and her new look and attitude and everybody was gagged

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She should’ve just said ‘I dedicate this next song to my ex’ then it wouldn’t have sounded like she was trynna take full credit for writing it.

Isnt it funny the moment she tries to rebrand and " grow up" that she starts a fued with a litteral child

✅ "The world is angry at me for my art" ✅ "Pioneering" a genre while just being a sub-par artist and just not looking for other people in the genre ✅ Obsessed with celebrity image instead of art; using art as a vehicle to greater fame ✅ Name drops celebrity "friends" ✅ Exposed for plagiarizing material ✅ Somehow forgettable despite being extremely socially grating ✅ Weirdly straight teeth, round forehead, and obnoxious sunglasses combo ✅ "Gay" wordplay (KPop➡GayPop, Vacation➡GayCation) Jojo Siwa 🤝 Jimmie Lee

The song where JoJo said, “This is a song about my EX is a different song - also one JoJo did not write - called “Choose Your Fighter by Emeline. Emeline had previously posted the song on her Tik Tok but not PUBLISHED it. After JoJo played the song for an audience at her pre-release party, Emeline’s friend posted a video saying that it was Emeline’s song and Emeline’s voice was actually on JoJo’s track 😫 Emeline posted a video saying the song had been sold to JoJo without her consent but it wasnt JoJo’s fault The next day Emeline’s explanation video, the original performance video, and the friend’s video, all were mysteriously taken down

There should be a boundary for artists to publicly speak about songs if they didn't write it themselves. Jojo is old enough to know what she is doing and it's unjust to the label that created the song and brit Smith who recorded the song previously and did a music video for it

miley cyrus be distancing herself from this ay

5:04 gay pop before siwa: Lady gaga 100 gecs Dorian electra Chester lockhart Sam smith Kim petras Ashnikko Charli xcx Rebecca black Prince Miley cyrus And so many more. Lol. I do kinda like her backpack tho ngl

there's no harm in buying someone's song. famous singers do it ALL THE TIME. what makes it weird is that she's talking about this whole self-transition and then using someone else's art to express that self-change. immediately makes the change feel empty and meaningless in this scenario

Ethan do you know how music labels work 😭 also the original singer (not writer) didn’t just release it after Jojo. Internet did. Only then she released the old record. Dude pls at least have actual info when discussing 🙈🙈🙈

Hila sneezed and no one said bless you…. Rude 🤣🤣

Ethan would tare her apart if it wasnt for his psycho new fan base

I feel like Olivia is almost distractingly beautiful everytime she's on the cam it's just like 😮

Disagree Ethan. Originality or honorable rejuvenation is everything in art. She totally implied that it was her creation hoping nobody would research.

she is so out of touch with the current sapphic pop genre. if she witnessed the beauty of those songs then she'd sit down and start taking notes.

Hila was the hero of this segment at 7:10 when she said JoJo should let her art speak for itself. Love you, Hila!!😎

To be fair, it's not just about what she said it's about what she didn't say too. She said in a interview that she started writing her own music and couldn't wait to show it to everyone. THEN she released those songs, without saying that she DIDN'T write them or create them. That's the issue, if she wanted to have no scandals, she should have said that these are not the songs she wrote. Simple as that. Jojo is truly following Hollywood's path of having controversy one after another, but in her case people don't support her and won't come back to her after that. This whole 'all publicity is good one' doesn't work for the new generations anymore. So her best chance of getting on the new gen's side again is for her to just apologize for misleading everyone. As we've seen how fast they forgive pred*tors, after a silly little apology.

The real tea is jojo and her mom and their dance companies accusations against them

I try to give new generation props for their music but I just can't stand this kid. Giving Jennifer Lopez vibes.

“JOE JOE” - President Joseph Biden 🇺🇸 (wake up 💤🍳)

9:07 People sell songs all the time, they still generally get writers credits IIRC

The Grimes panic noises are so good 💀

why is it relevant if someones into the same gender in relation to a genre of music??

is Jojo's behaviour and attitude a glimpse at what she endured from Abby Lee - the behaviour is so similar

This crew feels like a slow death...........

Anyone think its weird how the one guy talked about his new album & he wasnt allowed to plug it ?!? And like ethan didnt say anything?

Love the new background

Gotta agree with Ethan on the song

Claire’s AF - AB

liv saves this podcast ❤