you have to realise that Quartermain is a fiction hero too, from the book King Solomon's mines, he's basically the blueprint for Indiana Jones so He's an early superhero too
Technically Quartermain is from the generation of pulp heroes that Indiana Jones was made as a homage to. He's not a blueprint, he's the original and Indiana Jones is the reinterpretation.
That’s exactly what something being the blueprint for a later more well known version means. So he is basically the blueprint for Indiana jones. And the “generation of pulp heros” you mention started from around 1900 to 1950. Alan quartermaine was published in 1885, so hes not a pulp hero.
30:10 Actually Alan figuring out who M is makes sense, since there were several clues sprinkled out beforehand. 1) During the fight at Dorian's house One of the Phantom's main henchmen says, "Run James." as he fights Alan. 2) In the audio recording a woman says "Ready Professor." Between these, it wouldn't be hard to figure out that the M stands for Moriarty.
For the viewer there's also the hat of Sherlock Holmes in a glass box when the lights go on during the first meeting. Sherlock died and Moriarty survided the fall during their final battle.
Stuart Townsend was born to portray charming, sociopathic Immortals. He rocked as Lestat the vampire and as Dorian Gray. Great actor. This was Sir Sean Connery's last big movie. RIP to an absolute Legend.
I think he made a good vampire in Queen, but he wasn't quite right for Lestat DeLioncourt. A bit too short, not blonde, and they should have enhanced his eyes a bit more. Acting was good though. I also hate Johnathan Davis as his singing voice. David Draiman would have been better, but he wouldn't do it for religious reasons. The only thing haunting about Davis, is his life choices.
He retired after this movie, it was an absolute piece of cinema trash. There is no substance, its all premise, and there's no excuse with such great source material to work with such as the graphic novels, and the stories of each individual member.
Actually, Jules Verne explained Captain Nemo's background more fully in the work, 'The Mysterious Island'. He actually is Prince Dakkar, the son of an Indian raja of the region of Bundelkhand, and a descendant of the Sultan Fateh Ali Khan Tipu. He lost his entire family in a rebellion and then devoted his life to science. So the movie invented none of this.
Nemo felt like a character from another movie that we never got a chance to see. I would've loved even a small flashback of his operations against the British in India.
@rabiin3921 Original Nemo (from "20 leagues") was supposed to be Polish, as Poland didn't exist at that time, and name Nemo means "man from nowhere". But publisher was afraid of political scandal and told Verne to change that, so Nemo became Indian. But Verne made Nemo keep portrait of Tadeusz Kościuszko (polish and later american independence fighter) in his quarters.
@@dracon2002 Wow. Thank you for that fill in! Very illuminating. So is the name in fact polish? You've closed one door while opening 20 others as I think back over all the other characters i've read named Nemo....lol
The biggest problem with this film is that the average audience is pretty ignorant of these classic characters, so without the exposition that is present in most modern movies to provide backstory, I’ve always had to pause the movie to answer questions from family watching this with me. As an enthusiast of these stories, I thoroughly enjoyed this film and always had hoped for a sequel that never happened.
You would think, but sadly not, I saw this in the theater with some friends and no one really understood the characters except me. Dorian Grey isn’t really required reading in school.
Ya, this movie doesn't work unless you have at least a basic idea of who everyone is. I knew most of the cast, I had read about half of their books by the point it came out, but I didn't know Quartermain. Not that it was super important, he was simple enough to understand.
As a kid, I had no clue who half the people were, but I loved the movie. I.e. I thought Mina was Dracula's bride (idk why), never watched Sherlock Holmes for M's reveal, didn't know Dorian/Nemo were from books, and didn't know Alan was based on someone. I knew Jekyll and Hyde from Van Helsing and I knew Tom Sawyer's name. It was just a fun movie, was cool and fun to learn these things as I got older tho.
It is worth noting Tom Sawyer isn't just a random American Classical character thrown in for name recognition. In the books, Tom is an adventurous kid with a fairly strong sense of justice and authority. So of course he would be the one to want to join a group of superheroes to stop a supervillain. Favorite character is probably Captain Nemo but all of them are great in their own way and I love them all.
Problem is he would have been in his mid-70s. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were set in the 1840s. They were around 14 or 15 in their stories,
I do like how its the same actor playing both Jekyll and Hyde...Hyde is like 90-95% practical too. The CGI was reserved for Skinner and that abomination at the end lol
@@theoteddy9665 To be honest, i always thought the actor playing Hyde was - not Lesnar - but still a wrestler, one that was in movies back then (as the usual big bad boss) and sort of looked similar to him. Nathan Jones, should anyone remember. He was also tall, and i would guess they needed a tall man to fill that gigantic costume.
It's a metaphor for hard drugs user@junky. Junky will kill every trust with no remorse. Dr Jekyll got split personality yada, yada, yada ... 'Take the formula' ... junk sick ... and its nuthin like Hulk in Avengers
In the original Dorian Gray novel , the guy who painted the portrait was the devil in disguise and granted Dorian's wish. Dorian was also a serial killer.
In the book the painter, Basil Hallward, stated he was so attached to the painting because "he put too much of himself into it." Dorian did make a wish, but the painter himself was no devil and the painting was conceived well before this. In fact Dorian even kills Basil who begged Dorian to repent for his actions. Basically Dorian had his soul attached to the painting to a certain degree, or more specifically Basil's interpretation of Dorian's soul at the time of the paintings conception, young beautiful, and innocent. As he committed crimes/murder his soul became marred as did the appearance of the painting that displayed his soul. This was meant to depict his downward spiral and the ramifications of one's actions on there own psyche brought on by a life of debauchery. Dorian originally was just an innocent young man, curious of the world around him, and blessed with good looks. He was even quite religious. His exposure to the real world, people's lust, and a spoiled lifestyle led him down a dark path that he later fully embraced. Basically Henry's influence, and Dorian's ego were his downfall. The painting his a direct depiction of his true inner self, that his guilty conscience attempts to hide. In the end it became to much to bare, and his inability to accept his own hypocrisy led to him attempting to destroy the painting. It backfired, however, as it was basically him lashing out at his own true self, leaving the painting unharmed and Dorian himself as a decrepit old husk of his former beautiful self.
Dorian grey - Oscar Wilde The invisible man - H.G. Wells Nemo - Jules Verne Mina - Bram Stoker Allan Quatermain - H.R. Haggard Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Robert L. Stevenson Brilliant charaters and a genius move by the comic book creators putting them togheter
You missed a couple: Nemo's first mate introduces himself by saying, "Call me Ishmael," which is the first line of "Moby Dick" by Herman Melville. James Moriarty - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle M - Ian Fleming
If she has the same weaknesses as Dracula, Mina can survive sunlight but cannot transform while under it. And can't cross running water, which in this story probably just means she can't swim and that's why if the ship sank she would be pretty much dead
She carried an umbrella at Quartermain's funeral so I can guess while she can go out in daylight, she might not be fully immune to it. Not something that could kill her but weaken her.
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is one of my favorite movies ever, the whole idea of notable characters of literature all working together is one that really tickles my brain. I actually made my own League with my favorite book characters (Adam Frankenstein, Wilbur Whateley, Sandokan, Jean-Baptise Grenouille, Ishmael & Queequeg, etc) and even wrote some stories but i have lost them.
The whole crystals and radio frequencies has nothing to do with new age mysticism. Crystals really do vibrate at certain frequencies, which is why quartz watches exist and crystal radio sets.
I loved this movie so much. Still makes me laugh that apparently it flopping was why Sean Connery stopped acting. Everything I've heard about it was he passed on the role of Gandalf for LOTR thinking it wouldn't do well and when LOTR took off he realized he's a bit out of touch with what people want to see, so when he saw another movie he thought would flop he went "Clearly this will do well since I don't like it!"
Reportedly, Connery was also up for the role of the Architect in the Matrix. I think he said in an interview that it wasn't because he thought the movie would flop but that he didn't understand the parts being offered. So after turning down two roles he didn't understand and watching the movies become mega blockbusters, when he didn't understand Quartermain he thought he needed to jump on it.
Speaking of LOTR, Stuart Townsend was originally cast as Aragorn before they recast the role and gave it to Viggo Mortenson. They wanted someone who felt older in the part.
I loved this movie as a kid, still do. I thought others did too until I went online and saw the reviews and also the stuff about it being the reason Sean Connery stopped acting. Whether it be nostalgia or just my personal taste, I still love this movie and watch it occasionally. Funny, it's the same thing with Van Helsing.
Kinda believable (in the context of this world) since his blood was modified, definitely could have been as a result of that. Can you really believe Dorian being immortal or Allan being revived due to an african witch doctor, or any of the other insane things, but the invisible guy with modified blood being able to withstand cold temperatures is too much for you?
The biggest problem with the Invisible Man is the fact that he would be completely blind. Any light entering his eyes would have no surface for the optic nerve to translate into a comprehendible image, it would go straight through.
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is a hidden gem glad to see it getting some love . Have you ever seen Vampires with James Wood? That's another great movie not too many people talk about.
I will unashamedly admit, this is one of my favorite movies of all time, and watching it and enjoying it as much as I did is what inspired me to go out and read, not only the graphic novel, but also every work of classical literature that these characters originate from.
From someone who read the original comics, biggest missed opportunity was not including how the invisible man dies (and I highly encourage you to look it up just so you can be extremely confused and disturbed). That'll either be the catalyst for you to read the original or avoid it like the plague xD
From what I can look up the original invisible man was beaten by a mob and then his associate Hawthorne Griffin took over as invisible man, how did griffin die?
I have a feeling that a lot of the hate comes from people who weren't happy about the adaptation from the comic book... er, sorry, "Graphic Novel". Since I never read the comics, I just had the classic characters and the movie itself to judge by, and I enjoyed it immensely! Much like "Watchmen", which drew similar ire from comic fans and Artsy critics... but was a very entertaining film!
The characters and story feels generic and ripped off from other stuff. It doesn't feel particulary special for any reason. I don't think people hate it. It just doesn't have an attracting factor that would cause a lot of people to really like it. There is no unique or original character that would make people want to identify with it and to remember it.
The thing with the mirrors actually was because of silver. Back in the day, mirrors were either made of or backed with silver, and it was believed, that silver very pure in a metaphysical way, so it would not only purify evil, but even refuse to reflect the image of such a vile, undead creature as a Vampire. I believe, the reason vampires don't show up in photographs was also linked to this, as one of the things used in early photography was silver chloride.
I saw this movie as a kid, the dvd’s been in my house since release. I loved seeing this movie as a kid and I wish they made more. I grew up on Underworld and Van Helsing and to me this was bigger than the Avengers.
This is a treat to see. My father and I watched this movie together when I was young a lot. He passed away on June 12th and watching this video brought back a lot of wonderful memories. Thank you for the video friend.
While the video was great as always one thing I have to say. When discussing the large CGI monster Mister Hyde battled, I think the point was that it isn't supposed to be like Hyde. I think this is proven by a couple reasons 1: Hyde himself says when the man was chugging the formula from the beaker that he shouldn't be drinking the whole bottle. So there is likely a reason Jekyll only drinks a small vial at a time 2: The reason the monster's body is red is likely because of how fast his blood is pumping and how high his body temperature is. The monster is constantly steaming which is likely sweat evaporating, this also pairs with what Hyde said about him burning through the formula faster. 3: In the original story of Jekyll and Hyde, there was only 1 formula. Because of an impurity in the salt Jekyll used the formula worked as intended. But once Jekyll ran out of that salt he couldn't replicate the formula, this is likely why the monster looks like a distorted Hyde, because the formula is incomplete/imperfect. These are just my headcanon theories though with the evidence we were given in the movie. Still loved the video, keep up the great content!
30:11 Actually, it makes perfect sense. During Alan's first battle with "The Phantom," one of his men tells him, "Run James!" Later during M's villainous monologue, a woman says "Ready Professor?" on the record. Putting those together with the codename M, it's not that big a jump.
It is a great comic and I adore *The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen* movie. I was so excited to see all these legendary literary figures put together on the screen. I have watched it countless times. It’s a shame the movie didn’t do better because if it had perhaps we’d have gotten another movie 👀. Thank you for the video Cogan.
Until now I was not aware this movie was based on a comic book series, I will definitely be on the lookout for it. I definitely would like to read the original source.
I agree I would have loved to see another one but a lot of the actors hated the movie after it flopped in the box office. Still one of my favorites though, and thank you for watching and being a member!
@coganLollins I adored this movie. I'm a big Jules Verne fan. I really liked "King Solomon's Mines" as well. 19th century and early 20th century literature has some absolute bangers.
Mina is absolutely gorgeous, and the actress was and still is. I love the way they portrayed every character. No one could have done Quatermain but Connery. The casting was awesomely done. I still would have liked a bit more though. Perhaps a few reveals along the way of the back stories. Excellent video thank you 👏 👏 👏
I can not believe that Ishmael from Moby Dick went unmentioned as the name of the murdered first mate. Favorite character: Toss up between Mina and Tom Sawyer. Favorite moment: Mina cleaning blood from her face in Dorian's library only to be very calmly informed that she "missed a spot."
Points 1 and 2 have my full and enthusiastic agreement. Favorite moment: Mina informing Sawyer that his chief qualities as a romantic partner are nor of value to her.
26:40 The reason why Dorian didn't close his eyes is because his curiosity got the best of him and can't help himself but look, it's his portrait after all.
Hyde in Van Hellsing was fantastic. Yeah, the CGI wasn't great, but damn what a good introduction. Jeckyll on the other hand was ridiculous in Van Hellsing, not what I pictured when I read the book. Here at least he seems more dignified.
Dr. Jekyll is represented so well in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. He's composed like you would imagine a doctor to be, but he's cowardly and anxious. It's really clear that the actor studied both characters and did his best to represent them.
@@internetmystery hp lovecrafts work was never appreciated when it first was received, now it has more of a cult following. Same is with this movie, its concepts and ideas and mix of characters are so much better than modern movies in my humble opinion. I appreciate yours as well 🗣️🫱🏻🫲🏽🙏🏼
@@livedandletdiewhat is it with people like you who just want to throw in politics into everything? All politicians suck. I don't care if they're red or blue
Captain Nemo definitely is my favourite character in this film: Quiet, introvert but when needed can bring to bear some impressive sword skills and martial arts. Not to mention his mechanical skills are the reason they can even do some of the things they do: Getting to Venice and Mongolia in time by using the submarine, saving Venice by using the automobile and a guided missile etc.
Considering the unholy ruin German U boats would do just a mere twenty years after the movie was set I'd say it's safe to say that Captain Nemo could have singlehandedly have gone to war with every colonial sea power, and won. With that homing rocket some fifty years ahead of the V-2 killed anyone he chose on land. Nemo was a great power all on his own. Which makes you wonder why he couldn't retake his homeland.
Also think they were implying that the Nautilus had to have been nuclear powered. All submarines until the 50's were diesel electric. Had to surface often to recharge the battery banks by running motors, so required regular access to fresh air. But the Nautilus could stay underwater for days. Implies that Nemo had mastered some aspects of atomic fission some fifteen years before Einstein published his groundbreaking paper. So meaning he'd twigged on general relativity before Einstein & therefore was capable of perhaps creating a full nuclear weapon that'd have paired well with his rockets.
@@PahadiSher Seems a bit of an inconsistency in the original plot. If he spend most of his life landlocked, where would he have honed his skills in crafting a submarine?
@brianhirt5027 His family was killed & he was banished. His backstory also said he was educated in the West, just like Batman went around the world to learn about being a stateless vigilante.
In the book , The Picture of Dorian Gray, the portrait not only ages instead of Dorian it also records his sins. I don’t know why but quatermain’s line about sawyer’s shooting being very American is one of my favorite lines. Another one that always makes me laugh is when Dorian’s role is revealed on the record and he is called a wolf among the sheep. Then Dorian just says “growl”.
LXG was not a terrible movie. Neither was Van Helsing. Neither was Wolfman. It's a shame the audience wasn't there. This movie was nothing like the graphic novel which is 5 volumes that span centuries. But the movie was still good in its own way. I agree that Hyde was a beautiful effect. I kind of hated that Mina was turned into a vampire. The fact that she was a normal woman in the comic but was still the leader just because of her strength of will and experience. It was cool.
This was by far my guilty pleasure movie my dad and I watched all the time while he was alive. I haven't seen it since he passed but this has made we want to watch it again. Thank you for bringing back so many happy memories!
@@williamdunhan341 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D-6LIXlnYQY.html There used to be a short video on YT about it's design and assembly, but I couldn't find it.
Allan Quatermain - H. R. Haggard. Professor James Moriarty/Phantom - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Captain Nemo - Jules Verne Rodney Skinner, aka the Invisible Man - H. G. Wells. Wilhemina Harker - Bram Stoker. Ishmael - Herman Melville. Dorian Grey - Oscar Wilde. Tom Sawyer - Mark Twain. Dr. Henry Jeckyll/Mr. Edward Hyde - Robert Louis Stevenson. I probably missed a few, but that's due to them not being named or being absent. Whoever decided to combine characters from various works of fiction into a single comic was a genius. I love the plot, but there was some maritime terminology flubbery aboard the Nautilus. Then again, the writers probably didn't check their work ahead of time.
Love Nemo's car it's so beautiful. I wish they made cars like that today that where built to last & had style & beauty like that! They just made stuff more elegant back then!
I have to mention that Mina was seen outside at least twice in the movie. Once on the ship deck when Sawyer and Quartermain were shooting, and the next time was at Quartermain's funeral.
It's hard to pick just one character! They are all good in their own right. Especially if you are familiar with each character's story. I grew up reading their stories, and was rather excited when each character showed up! They really need to do more movies like this!
I love the depition of Dorian Gray. Often times we go crazy with all of these super powers, but his was simple... immortality and invincability. Also like how they despite this in his personality and actions. During the gun fight he doesn't get angry, mad, or even panic. He just slowly takes his time dealing with the enemies.
I've always liked the idea that the reason Dorian looked was because he had spent a lifetime giving in to every base desire. Never having to hold back. After several centuries. Something as simple as morbid curiosity made him look.
I've got the sequel graphic novel, & Quartermain was brought back, but there was no relationship between Mina & Tom, as Logan stated, as Mina said in it she only loved older men so slept with Alan instead? Anyway the synopsis of the sequel is all about the League stopping an alien menace of creeping Martian vines, so it kind of resembles the novel by H.G Wells of War of the Worlds? However it's officially now been 20 years precisely since the first film, so what are the odds?
This was such an underrated movie that was overlooked by everyone at the time. I love this movie. This was like a Victorian era Avengers movie but much better.
I never understood why this movie had a reputation of being disliked and bad. I always love these "monster menagerie" movies that bring iconic Victorian legends together.
(At 18:29) And then there's another thing about Mina, I don't think anyone's bringing up… her hair. When she's in her normal form it's all straight, but when she's in her vampire form it's all in curls.
I loved the movie and rewatch it fairly regularly. That said, IMHO the reason that the movie didn't do well was lack of knowledge of the characters.They were a collection of public domain heroes that come from old classic stories. Characters that the average person wasn't aware of or at least not enough to understand what the characters are. Oh and why M worked, was that it was easy to assume that League "M" was an early incarnation of the M character from James Bond. From that PoV it was surprising that find out that he was really Moriarty from the Holmes stories.
Thank you so much! I never understood why people hated on this film so badly when I was younger...had no idea it was based on a comic series, just recognized the characters from being such a bookworm since childhood😊 glad others got it! 👍
Hi Cogan Lollins! Another detail you missed is that the movie gives you a clue about the true identity of M. During the fight in Dorian's mansion Alan chase the Phantom, who is saved by the his henchmen (who later becomes monster-Hyde), who yells at him "Run, James!". Alan seems intelligent and has a good memory. He could recall stories about the so-believed deceased James Moriarty. He could have put together the clues. My best regards to You!
@@kevinskywalker5539 Yes I know, but since in the actual movie, and the presentation of Cogan Lollins he's never named I didn't too. Actually, rather than a "Dante" I wonder why they didn't give him the identity of Sebastian Morann, right-hand of Moriarty.
@@Bluedd17 , that's not what I meant. I mean the red hyde monster form the henchman with the buzzcut transformed into is called the dante beast. I don't know his name but yeah, that's his monster name.
Man, I really do wish we get a remake for this universe (Preferably as an animated show), it has potential. PS - Any chance to explain the Vampires from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure or Hellsing Ultimate?
Tbf Doreon Grey is so vain he wouldn't be able to not see the painting, I'd presume that this would be the later part of the book Dorian, tired and bored the painting almost calls to him.
I hate to ruin the end of the mysterious island, but Nemo is in it, and they didn't change his story. You just don't get his story or whole story in 20,000 leagues. They keep him more of a mystery in 20,000 leagues they even acknowledge it in the mysterious island.
One of my all time fav movies, I revisit it every 6 months. A fabulous romp - I ignore all the negative stories because it's just fun. Love all the characters equally, but have a soft spot for Mrs Harker
Hi Cogan Lollins! I really appreciate that you decided to bring on the channel this really underrated movie (despite all the problems during filming, it easily towers over all nowadays Marvel's failure attempts). - I wanted to point out a little detail that You missed about the character of Mina Harker. She is in fact perfectly capable of walking in sunlight as shown in the first scene over the bridge of the Nautilus. I agree with you when you praise the skills of Jason Flemyng in the part of Jekyll/Hyde, and I also appreciate how they slightly rewrite the untold flirt between him and the character of Mina (present also in the novels), who could actually stand up to both sides of the man. My best regards to You!
Yes, this movie is a definite gem, there's something about it that transports me to a different place. I still clearly remember the excitement of renting it from blockbuster and watching it.
I imagine that Hyde isn't purely evil because while the serum split Jekyll's evil thoughts into their own personality, now that Hyde is effectively his own person there's nothing stopping him for developing past what he was.
I wonder if they give this a reboot Or a mini series like watchman, It makes sense because watchman, The league and V for vendetta. We're all created by the same man, Alan Moore.
I have always loved this movie. I re-watched it recently right after you said you’d be covering it. Loved just as much wish we could have got another and I would be ok with a modern remake.
Dracula takes place in the 1890s as well, so it makes sense that Mina would know Dorian from recently enough that she wouldn't have expected to him to have aged. Though it's only been a few years, under a decade, so I'm not sure where her husband is.
This is really an underrated movie, it's good, has lots of action, brings a lot of favorite characters together to form one badass team. Suicide Squad before it's time, for real.....
With regards to Quatermaine working out that M is James Moriarty, during the battle at Gray's house, the Phantom's second in command (Whether accidentally or not.) yells out "Run James." and during the playback of the audio recording onboard the Nautilaus, M's secretary refers to M using the title "Professor".
I couldn't tell you why but when i saw this back in the day my favorite character was nemo. He had a cool line like " I walk a different path" and all of a sudden revealed he was a martial artist.
great video! loved this movie when i was a kid and its one of my guilty pleasure movies🔥 just a teensy nitpick though, tony curran wasnt snowman in blade 2. that was donnie yen. tony curran played priest. 😁
