Grizz reacts to Season 2 Episode 9 of The Legend Of Vox Machina: A Test Of Pride! #TheLegendOfVoxMachina #VoxMachina 0:00 Intro 1:33 Reaction 18:33 Review Check out the full length version on Patreon: / kylekatarnchannel
I think they did a kind of bad job of showing that in the show. not only do we get no explanation of who the person is, she has different hair color AND she also says "thank you for saving my grandfather" whilst pike have so far in the show said "great great grandfather" which adds to the confusion. so for people who have not seen the livestreams i think its justified to be mistaken here.
@@BayerTE1 If they had thought far enough ahead, explaining her resurrection could have fit fine in her season 1 journey to reconnect with the Everlight. Its forgivable that they overlooked it back then though. But by the time of actually making season 2, they should have worked it in before this. Most obviously around the resurrection ritual of Vex, or somewhere in building the relationship of Pike and Grog, like the moment she is stabbed by Craven edge it triggers Grogs memories of her violent death. I can only think at this point they are saving the full details for some kind of arc next season around getting her vestige? And the divine intervention? If thats the case, they should have fixed this scene to just not reference that part of her backstory. Have Wilhand heal Grog just a little to get him up and walking, and have him say come meet my grandaughter, she will fix you up. And dont show dark haired Pike.
@@BayerTE1 Well, she did call him "Grandpa Wilhand" earlier in the episode, but I agree, it wasn't really clear enough. A simple modification to Pike's dialog making it clear she was there that day would have been sufficient.
Pretty sure that was Pike's mother, as Pike didn't know this story. Pop-Pop is Pike's great-grandfather. Gnomes live hundreds of years but mature like humans in later editions, so most gnomes probably have great, great, great, great, great grandparents alive.
@@gork8468 Pike was an outcast to the rest of her family because of her connection to the Everlight. She just didn't know what happened prior to her showing up. Pike's hair turned white after she was killed and resurrected.
@@gork8468 It was pike. In her backstory her grandfather brought her to a dying half giant. Her and grog were raised together, but she never knew how he got hurt.
From the Critical Role wiki, "As a child, Pike seemed to have an affinity to heal. Whether it was animals, people, or even flowers, she felt she had a purpose in making things whole that had once been broken. She studied and learned the ways to heal through divine magic. She lived a peaceful life, quiet and simple, until one day, Wilhand was captured and almost killed by a group of goliath barbarians. One of the goliaths took a stand against the murder of the innocent gnome, and he himself was beaten, bloodied, and left for dead, abandoned by his herd. Wilhand went to Pike for help. She prayed, and healed this barbarian as best she could, bringing him back to life. When he awoke, she discovered his name was Grog Strongjaw. After that, they were the best of friends-a rather unlikely pair."
10:36 it's understandable to get this wrong but that is Pike not her mom. Her hair turned gray from something that happened that they may show in a flashback in the future so I won't go into more detail than that. As for how she didn't know I'd just assume when he came to get her to heal Grog he just told her he saved him from the raiders but didn't say he was also one of them.
Pretty sure the black haired kid was baby Pike, her hair changed some time between then and current times for reasons (honestly Im suprised they kept that as it didnt come up much in the streams and people keep being confused by baby Pike having black hair now). The "Grog used to be bad" part of the story was what suprised her not that teen Grog saved Pop-pop
A puzzling detail they included that confuses every viewer not familiar with the campaign. Worse, the current structure means they’re unlikely to ever go into the reason for the change.
For the record, they did just drop the Season 3 intro today/the release day for the first episode BUT DON'T WATCH IT UNTIL YOU'RE DONE SEASON 2 as it does contain spoilers.
It's not really a coincidence that Grog and Pike are best friends after Grog saved her pop-pop. It's that after doing that, and Pike healing Grog, well... now they're family.
Grog's herd is mostly made up of Goliaths like himself, but it also has members of other races who have joined and proven themselves to be capable raiders.
After Grog was banished from the herd for saving Pop-pop, he basically took Grog in and raised him like family with Pike. That's why the two are so close.
Thordak has no interest in the vestiges, he has his own plans, but that’s how Ripley is able to get into Umbrasyl’s ear The travelling trope on table was Scanlan’s old trope they met under different circumstances but it was a nice way to include them As the comments have noted, that was Pike. She has ‘trauma hair’ like Percy when she died pre-stream and came back (S1 showed Percy’s hair turn white when being tortured).
Btw Grogs father’s name was Stonehaw Strongjaw. If it was going to get a reveal in the show it would have happened during this arc. So I don’t feel bad about revealing it. 😆
In the campaigns story line Grogs dad Stonejaw Strongjaw was there when Grog was banished from the Herd of Storms and did nothing as Kevedak beat him to a bloody pulp and then at some point early into him joining Vox Machina he was tricked by a Lich posing as his father so that the Lich could use Grog as a flesh and blood phylactery
Great reaction! Great to hear you talking about the Chroma Conclave. The metallic and chromatic dragon lore goes all the way back to the 1st edition DnD. Matt Mercer came up with a great twist on the evil dragons and their alliance. Each of these dragons is legendary....so nigh invulnerable. The animation team and the cast came up with dragons that are massive, terrifying, and brutal. Grog's backstory and how he has to deal with Kevdak is perfect. Seeing it play out in the series is different, but it's definitely awesome. Can't wait to see your reaction to the next episode.
Just some more backstory that's hinted at but not really said directly. After little pike healed Grog, he went and lived with her and Wilhan until they went adventuring and met the rest of Vox Machina.
I believe Pike didn't know Grog originally had been an attacker. She saved his life (her hair used to be black, that is Pike not her mom, her mom and immediate family didn't raise her long,), and Grandpa Wilhand told her Grog saved him- but left out that Grog had been part of the group that also nearly killed him, and had killed a bunch of neighbors etc.
They didn't do a great job with the scene where Grog gets healed imo. The healer was Pike, she had black hair as a kid. I guess that she didn't know the reason why Kevdak beat him near to death is because of him fighting back against his family. Maybe they never spoke of it because of his pride.
I wonder if Wilhand also wanted to raise Grog with a more blank slate while Pike was still that young. Like, it would be easier to raise them together if she didn't know her new adopted brother used to run with a group of marauders?
2:15 if im remembering correctly the herd of storms allows anyone to join if they have proven their strength so there are some humans and half-orc in there as well
Funny you mention Hold Person... (Spoilers for Campaign 1 of critical role and the NEXT ep of Vox Machina S2) The original fight with Kevdak in the campaign hung heavily on a clutch casting of Hold Person on Kevdak. They basically hacked his arm off while he spent three rounds failing his saves. Of course by now you know the show shakes out a bit differently.
Fun Critical Role Fact: Grog's player and the group's CEO, Travis Willingham, made up Boulder, Paper, Shears on a whim and the group spit-balled it into Boulder, Parchment, Shears.
Oh, found the clip. As well as some other moments that may or may not make it into the show. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EaT3nojd7cA.htmlsi=7jZOHbjW8RdLHGYJ
The combining of stories for Grog is so well done here. Groon and the whole "where does your strength come from" was mostly roleplaying multiclassing to add some fighter to his barbarian, Craven Edge was a mostly self contained side tangent that didn't have this carried after effect, and the whole herd situation and reconciling his own past … they've taken all of those elements and turned it into an incredibly powerful journey of growth for Grog. I love it, and the next episode is amazing! I don't know if they'll touch on it, probably not, but Pike's white hair is a similar stress white to Percy's - That was little Pike healing young Grog. After that Pop-Pop and Pike take Grog in, which is why they are such close friends. I love their friendship so much.
Grog never multiclassed, Nor do I remember Travis ever saying he wanted to. I can't remember the exactly episode but I thought VM went to meet Groon because he witnessed Grog fight and silently acknowledged him from the sidelines after he won his crucible fight.
@@MusicUnderMyBreath The level change from Level 15 to Level 16, Grog took a level of Fighter. His final level 20 sheet has 17 levels of Barbarian and 3 levels of fighter. I could be conflating two events, but I recall that being related, they tend to lean into roleplaying things before they happen. In the same style that Liam had Vax discussing religion with Pike as a pre-cursor to multi-classing into Paladin under Seranrae. The dice had other ideas and he instead ended up as a Paladin of The Raven Queen
@@I.Lostalim I don’t think the Earthbreaker Groon stuff was related to his fighter levels. He was a Monk so it doesn’t quite work. He was just an NPC that the players especially Travis thought was cool and wanted to interact with more.
@@MACARLIN that's very possible, it has been a very long time since I watched the tabletop version. It would suit Kord's role and maybe I just got that stuck in my head at some stage.
