You may not think the upgrade is worth it or that it’s the best TV from your needs. But saying the G4 picture is bad is nothing but click bait. Do better…
Long time fan of the channel. By most accounts the biggest upgrade on the G4 from the G3 is the new cpu and the availability of an 83 inch MLA TV. Some of the perks of the G4 are, the interface is more responsive, better motion and picture processing. It's probably their biggest marketing angle for the TV since the industry seems to be more focused this year on video processing and of course brightness. Omitting this information is not fair to your audience. Is that worth the difference in price or is it actually better is another matter altogether.
I appreciate your perspective however, motion is identical. As is clarity regardless of chipset. The interface is not more responsive. It's equivalent. There's nearly no difference. The only real difference is brightness. I understand the feeling of wanting fairness. In the interest of fairness, have i ever lied to you? You've been a long time fan. I urge you to save your money and get the G3 or just wait for the G5 to show more of an upgrade than 100 nits extra with some gimmicky Ui features. Ultimately the choice is yours, but im telling you, the G4 is just not worth it.
@@Quantum_TV Didn't they also fix the brightness bug with game mode? That and the 83" having MLA are important factors to a lot of people I'm sure, myself included.
@@Daywalker78from what i understand yes, and the G4 does not thermal throttle the same way the Samsung sets have been known to do. The motion seems to be much better on the G4 than the G3 and I’m guessing it’s based on the new processor.
The G4 has the new processor that has AI machine learning so it will become more advanced with every firmware update as more images get fed into the LG database.
I had the G3 and now have the G4. I would say there is a pretty big difference. The clarity/detail is on another level. The colors pop too. Plus, the 5 year panel warranty. So far, I’m very happy with the upgrade.
I went today to look at the LG G4 and samsung S90D and S95D. The G4 is crisp and so bright. I didn’t see anything negative about the TV. Compared to the Samsung it was fairly similar. Although the S90D did seem brighter. I’m most likely getting the G4 55” as I’m a gamer and the dimming affect from the G3 really makes me annoyed.
Quantum dots are surely awesome, yet I want to put my expiriemce out there too, I've had 2 quantum dots tvs, samsungs, which caused me headaches and eye fatigue, the fira was 4 years ago, sent it back and got a sony ful array, no problems, now I got the qn90c, after 2 weeks problems started again, sent it back, got the lg c3 no problems
I have owned all major brand OLED’s and I can’t disagree more. Followed your advice and bought the C, even paid for helping calibrate it. After just over a year, it is hands down the worst TV I have owned. Samsung’s interface and processing are infuriating.
From your content, I have brought three different television, which was Hisense U8G , Samsung S90C and S90D so far I can’t go wrong with you great television THANKYOU 😊
Hello. Aren't you worried about the lack of a high-quality upscale of low-quality television broadcasting? In our region, all low-quality television and Samsung qd-oled in SDR looks bad against the background of competitors and dim.
Exactly. I can buy a 65 Samsung S95C for £1799 here in the U.K and it’s bargain compared to buying a S95D. Personally I would buy the S90C and save some money that you could use to buy other stuff with like a soundbar etc.
@@Quantum_TV all I can tell you is there is a noticeable difference in detail level and 10-15% brightness difference, that I can see quite clearly easily. And that’s from owning both said televisions, my business partner also has a G3 83 and he said the same …. About my G4
The G4 is the best oled tv in the world but for those who don't have the cash to get it they still can keep their CX C1 C2 C3 G2 G3 because all these tvs are very good, even when we know that some of them are brighter than the others but the brightness of all these tvs are not bad at all, i mean it's not like when we watch contents in these tvs we see nothing, nope... They are all bright enough to watch everything, i got a c1 and when i play with my settings i can my tv brighter enough and colorful so no need of G4 right now as i don't have the cash to get a G4... So for those who got oleds before 2020 then it's time to make an upgrade between the 2020 and 2024 oled tvs...
I just received my LG G4, and compared to the LG G3, the picture quality is significantly better. The G4 features a brighter MLA panel, offering superior brightness and clarity. It also has the upgraded Alpha 11 AI Processor, which further enhances the picture quality, AI upscaling, and Filmmaker Mode for movie enthusiasts The gaming performance has also improved, with 144Hz support which is a great addition for those us who loves PC gaming. Additionally, let's not forget the 5-year warranty that LG includes with the G4, offering a peace of mind for such a high-end investment. While the price might be high for some, it cannot be denied that the features and improvements in this model make it well worth it. The G4 is definitely one of the best TVs you can buy this year, period!
I have the G3 and G4 and the G4 blows away the G3 in brightness, motion, out of the box image quality, Sound. Its a big leap its even better than the Sony OLED. Its NOT a WOLED panel its an EVO MLA Panel. You got this one WRONG
Ummmm ok. It’s a woled panel. Faulty hardware masked as software firmware issues. This is why G4 is heavily discounted on partner store. Game mode is brighter on G4 but you may have hdmi issues. Also you lose atsc 3.0 tuner.
G4 is a huge upgrade in image quality, the new processor and tone mapping algorithm blows the G3 out of the water. I also demoed G4 side by side with the S95D and S90D. S90D immediately is the dimmest even in dynamic mode with active tone mapping, makes high graded content look flat and washed out. The S95D is much more competitive but the coating just takes away the sharpness when there's any ambient light. The G4 is the clear winner and the only one available in the much more cinematic 83".
I watched a video yesterday which compared the Sony A95L and LG G4. Surprisingly the gaming on the G4 was better, smoother and had clarity and sharpness. I can just imagine how LG can completely wash away the A95L if they opt for QD OLED technology!!
I believe that Samsung display which developed the Quantium Dot Oled has a patient on the technology. This makes it hard for other display manufacturers to use this technology. Apple in their new IPad Pro use double stack Oled in order to bring up brightness and color volume. I don’t know how well this would work in a 65 inch Tv.
You fail to mention that game mode dims heavily on the g3, if you’re a gamer it’s a no brainer to get the g4 instead… I feel like that’s extremely misleading to not mention that.
Hold on..those 30 year old standards are what cinematographers and movie makers adhere to. Surely when watching a film, you want to see it the way it was intended to be seen and not unnecessarily brighter or more colourful than what it was supposed to be.
@Quantum_tv change to suit who? It’s what film makers prefer to use and grade their movies accordingly. Why does a colour palette that has worked perfectly for 30 years need updating?
I agree that the G4 isn't that much better than the G3 , not worth the upgrade but is you own a TV that's 4 or 5 years old you have the option to save a bit if you can buy the G3 over the G4 .
bro can yuh pls explain or make a samll video on telling the difference between Dci p3 xy and dci p3 uv & rec2020 xy and rec2020 uv ? i was checking rtings rec2020 xy and uv table on lg samung Tvs... rec2020 uv seems to have more %age than rec2020 xy. for example LG oled has 72% rec2020xy and 79% rec2020 uv. . samsung qd-oleds were in high 80s
So I decided to purchase an open box LG G3 after LG website had crashed here in the United Kingdom I placed an order for the G4 unfortunately LG cancelled it. (Fate) I watched your video many times and it makes absolute sense why pay £2k more for something that does the same thing I saved a ton of money thanks to you. Really appreciate it Don't be the sheep be the Sheppard Thanks again Bro 👊🏽
You could literally say this about the S95D, S90D, C4, B4 and so on. Most new TV’s are just incremental upgrades from the TV’s the year before, you’re hardly telling us something we don’t already know. If you’re on a budget buy the premium model from last year, and if money is not tight then buy the newest model provided the reviews are positive.
The S95D is over 2100 nits vs 1700 on the S95C. The S90D is also substantially brighter in all the small highlights making sdr more impactful. The C4 is substantially brighter than the c3. The b4 is the only model you can say this with. But notice how most of the models in your rebuttal are lg woled tvs? Lg is outdated.
Just when I think I've decided on the G4, your video comes and sows doubt all over again. I am looking at the 83" though, which I don't believe the G3 has MLA at that size. I might just wait for next year at this point since Sony didn't really release a new OLED this year.
I have a 55" S95B and 65" Philips OLED908. This PhilipsTV uses 1st gen MLA-OLED from LG. When comparing them with HDR content I can clearly see that S95B is better with colour. There is much more colour-pop specificaly when seeing red objects. But MLA-OLED is clearly better with brightness, but it still feels kinda underwhelming because this TV lwas 2x the price of S95B. On the other hand Philips TVs are the only TVs on the market that offer SDR to HDR conversion. This works so good that I get a feeling that SDR content looks better and more colourfull than actual HDR content.
Yay, I guess trolls. Just love to be trolling, I mean an LG destroyed a quantum.TV come on, trolls. Anyway, quantum, hope to see you review the TCL QM7 or QM8 soon, thanks for the updates on this casualty of televisions, G4, no more, G3 meant to be.
So I’m no audiophile or videophile but I generally buy higher end. The last TV we purchased was about 10 years ago and it was when Ola was hot off the press (LG). My fiancé is quite the gamer but it’s mostly adventure games like BoTW (Switch) or occasionally something “twitchy” like Ratchet and Clank (PS5). My nephew visits sometimes and plays shooters. we also like to watch him play his Quest by streaming to the TV. I don’t play games but I like watching a movie on a streaming service or just keep updated on a RU-vid series. Went into Best Buy to see the G4, C4, S90C, and S95C. The Samsung definitely has more vibrant colors but they don’t look “real” to me. It was like someone gave me alien eyes. This might be good for games though. The image from LG TVs look more real to me. My fiancé loves the Samsung but I’m leaving towards the LG. Cost is equivalent at this point. Y’all have any recommendations / something we haven’t considered? It may be worth noting that we use Apple TV - I got really fed up with LGOS and the LG crappy Wi-Fi in the model I bought.
Well in my county I got an deal to get the 77" G4 for almost the samd money as an G3 is sold here. Around €3500 that's an absolute banger tv for this price, Even getting €200 cashback from Lg.
I dont have any of these tvs.... but every review ive seen on the G4, the colors look amazing and vivid compared to the ones youre showing here. Cant trust anyone nowadyas 😂😂😂
Can you buy the c4 or G4 and test it. I'd like to see what you can do with your setting because I really think you can do some magic with your calibration and setting. I owned a LG C2 and then owned a G3. I'm now going to buy a s90 d
question... I'm wanting to upgrade from my H9G... I watch tv in a darker room and primary fast paced sports Hockey Basketball and Football.... is it worth upgrading to OLED or viewing Qled Uled and saving the money is just as good?
I can get an G4 or s95D for 400 more then the 2023 models, which isnt that much. In the future the tv's wont be much cheaper then this discount. I will mount my tv. They will be used most for watchings shows, movies and some sport watching. Which tv do you recommend? Do you still recommend the 2023 models?
I think if you bought either the G4 or the G3 you would be happy. If you can get a G3 for a good price do it. I think it’s not just about brightness between the two being minimal it’s an overall improvement with the new video processor. I have owned both Samsung tvs and LG oleds and I prefer the LGs. I also have been installing TVs for 25 years and still do. I prefer the LG oleds over the Samsung TVs. Something a lot more natural about the image and colours. I also hate the newest Samsung interface. I’d much rather buy a Sony QDOLED or LG G or C series anyday. I installed a Sony last week and straight out of the box on standard broadcast TV it looked amazing. People get too caught up in specifications and brightness. I much prefer natural blacks and think the G4 is easily bright enough. Some TVs can be too bright and give you eye strain.
Im buying the G3 83inch in few months, you can buy the new one double the price but after one yer it will cost few times cheaper and then you will cry😅
Hi there couldn't help to comment on this due to myself being a big fan of av forums here in the UK indeed it was them who persuaded myself to go for my Panasonic oled tvs and I've not looked back since. Now Phil did say in this video if you have a g3 I wouldn't bother with the g4 did he not? he also makes the point in most of his reviews it's what you want from a TV and to get the best demo before hand before making your final decision also how little there is between all of the top tvs when looking at them with the naked eye and not on RU-vid. I've recently seen both LG g4 and Samsung 95d and although it was in a shop not the best place I can hand on heart say there was as near NO DIFFERENCE IN THE CONTENT I SAW . Also I use filmmaker mode with intelligent sensing with my Panasonic jz2000 for all content and I can say once again hand on heart the picture is superb and I'd put it up against both qdoled and mla and and even though it's old tech it would hold its own as would my previous Panasonic the gz2000. I admire the fact you point out the cost of living here in the UK it's no different but no one wether it's av forums ect puts a gun to peoples head and forces them to buy the products also am I right in saying qd oled aren't perfect.
Get the G4! Just got the 83" G4 and it's jaw dropping. Upgraded from a 65" G1 and initially got the 77 A95L and had some issues with the panel so returned it right when the G4 was released so figured I'd try it. Picture quality on the Sony was incredible but tried the G4 and it's on par or better in certain areas, especially gaming. There will always be pros and cons but bottom line the G4 is an amazing TV that's super bright with vibrant colors, unlike the washed out so called G4 images shown on this video 😂😂
I would never buy WOLED again. It’s completely pointless to go backwards in technology. I have my. C1 until I have enough money to get my S90D. Thanks as always for being so honest, my man! You make this forever earn its moniker! also I’m very glad you’re back to answering questions! I left one on the last video! 🙌🏼
the difference maker is the new processor 11 vs 9 which is a big difference and the 100 nits brighter - these two things do make a big enough difference for someone that is in the market for a new TV can you be okay and get a great deal with the G3 then no need to upgrade but for those that don't well it's not unreasonable to by the G4
Looking forward to when u check out the new Sonys, hopefully they surprise us all and actually are an upgrade, also its a shame you can't get Panasonic tvs as would love to see your views on them
I was about to get a Sony, but saw the burn in problems, I currently have a Sony & LG TV's, the picture quality of my Sony has deteriorated but my LG has stood the test of time. Maybe it's just the luck of the draw 🤷♂️
Still don’t have any videos of them side by side why is that so they not let it happen!!? Saw in a large retailer side by side no difference what so ever other than 600 to 700 dollar price lol
Some selfish agenda for sure.. Lol the comparisons pics were so hilarious.. He must have taken the shit image from samsung and later overnamed it.. Lol
If there are no significant differences and it's all just marketing, why not go for the G1 since it's essentially the same? XD Samsung is out for me because I can't stand a matte screen 🤿 Plus, I'm not sure if it's the 2024 king of TVs with Sony and Panasonic around the corner. If you've got the money, the G4 is still the best choice for now, especially for gaming and dark scenes in Dolby Vision🎬🏆
I heavily agree. There’s youtubers saying the g4 beats the qd oleds, and gives more vibrant colors. Tech with KG wouldn’t admit qd oled was still superior. It’s always just “you’ll be happy with either television.” It’s really fucking simple the only benefit woled has over qd oled is longevity. Qd oled is objectively superior and has 3-4 times brighter colors. U know how bright woled white would be without the white subpixel? 400-500 nits.
LOL, buy a G3. They are nearly the same, but specular highlights are puncher, and game mode is noticeably better, so if you're a gamer, go for the G4. Otherwise, you go with the g3. It's a shame the s95d has a matt finish. Hopefully, next year no more matt finish on the s95
100% agree. Game mode is much better on the G4 which is why I avoided a G3 as it looked quite dull and was poor compared to the A95L and S95C along with the S90C.
I just ordered the 77” g4 for 2900ish in the lg member store. Seemed close enough to the g3 in cost. I really disliked the s95D at Best Buy. Sony looked worse to me. The s95c looked great in store but the one connect issues scared me away. Also I can’t stand Samsung downgrading their stuff. I shouldn’t fear software updates. Hope next time around I’ll get a Qd oled or whatever is the new thing then. I assume the only notable updates for LG is some small processing improvements over the g3
@@Quantum_TV Thank you my man. The S90D is not available for me right now. I just got a deal for 77 LG C4 for ~ $2100 including taxes however I could get the 77 S90C for ~ $1700. On paper the S90C is brighter and more powerfull colors. The biggest thing for me is that the Samsung seems to have better motion handling without as much artifacts as the LG. I always push motion Interpolation to the fullest
Si mi LG C4 es maravilloso, me imagino la belleza de imagen en el G4 que es superior. Samsang ha rebajado la calidad, la pantalla se llena de rayas al año y medio y dos años.
Makes sense in terms of no colour advancements because it’s still a WOLED! Brightness is pointless if the detail is lost at whatever nits the G4 is marketing!
I just watched a bit of dr strange multiverse of madness on my 85” X95K it looked good. I am now watching the same movie on my Panasonic GZ1000 and it looks great.
X900e. S546. Q8fn. H9f. U8g. C1. G2. C2. S95b. S95c. S90d. And the list goes on. But because lg can't compete with QD-OLED you pretend all my reviews are negative.
I can already imagine, if LG came out with a QDOLED, the people like rtings, digital trends, etc, would be like, "Finally! We have something special folks! LG has brought their first quantum dot oled to their 2025 TV lineup! Why is this important? Well, LG woled with mla are great tvs, Butttt, they lacked the color vibrancy and impact of the qdoled counterparts." And you see where I'm going with this now? Lol. I can already hear Caleb saying what I just was typing above
This is THE most real comment I've read yet. I can hear it now. "Folks i had the chance to see the new 2025 QD-OLED from lg an man is it special. LG had the G4 next to their new QD-OLED panels with mla, and you can just see how much of a difference there is." Stop me if his formula sounds familiar because its too predictable
Purchased a 55 inch g4 had to return it unless u are watching a perfect 4k source the tv was awful I know people say u buys a 2 grand tv to watch content that's not 4k but some stuff isn't and the up scaling wasn't great at all
@@preston9401 Iv gone back to my old x90f gonna hold out a couple weeks and see how the Bravia 7 is when uk gets them in stock would consider Bravia 9 but for some reason I think they only gonna be like 75 inch here and that's way to big for me
I have a g4 on vivid and the colors are amazing I had a g3 this is better yes on low quality youtube videos the videos do look over bright but not on 4k videos thus looks amazing
👆Samsung,gave up on them so long ago because of the micro stutter in all 50htz content. In Caleb Denison's review of the new flagship Samsung Oled with the "dirty matt screen" he mentioned he saw micro stutter in some content so all these years later (over 10) they still haven't fixed the issue that caused me to stop buying them. 🤪Samsung=We are LG haters that will do anything to be different to them and even put our head in the sand for years like Oled does not exist with our fingers in our ears going LALALALALA. 👆
Da der A95 zu teuer ist und nicht verfügbar in 83", so hatte ich vor den G4 zu holen, aber der G4 ist mir zu blass, vor allem rot und hat einen grünen Strich, daher wird das der S90D. Der S90D hat so wie der G4 einen glossy Panel, aber der G4 reflektiert für schlimmer als der S90D. Was für mich noch wichtig war ist, dass die kabellose Soundbars vom Samsung besser als vom LG sind, sehen besser aus und die hintere Boxen klein, grau und mit Kunststoff abgedeckt, somit katzenfreundlich sind. Hinzu hat Samsung zwei Fernbedienungen und glaube mit Solar. Was spricht für den LG G4 ? Bessere Preis, Verarbeitung, guter Halter inclusive, bessere Software, Dolby Vision. Meine Zimmer ist 40m², Entfernung 5,5-7,5m, mein aktueller TV...65" Plasma vom Panasonic.
