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The Lie We All Believe About Sustain 

Rhett Shull
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When it comes to the never ending debate about tone wood, and its effect on a guitar's sound, sustain is almost always brought up as a sign of a great guitar. But in my mind I don't think a guitar's natural sustain is all that important, heres why.
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@fundude365
@fundude365 2 года назад
Rhett: "Sustain doesn't matter." Also Rhett: Sustains a successful career in music, a healthy and vibrant youtube community, multiple adult friendships and a loving marriage at the same time.
@UXBen
@UXBen 2 года назад
😁 I see what you did there.
@joshuamichael4312
@joshuamichael4312 2 года назад
Hahah your username rings true, and it sustains for days.
@PulledPurk
@PulledPurk 2 года назад
heckin hypnocrite
@benjaminfowler4513
@benjaminfowler4513 2 года назад
Some sort of philosophical mathematics you just did there
@chrispodesta9728
@chrispodesta9728 2 года назад
Somewhere out there, Davie504 just uttered, "CHECKMATE!"
@louderthangod
@louderthangod 2 года назад
Don’t forget volume. Playing in front of a full stack up loud, even if clean will resonate the body and add tons of sustain. Add gain and it can be like sustainer pickup. The more the body resonates, the stronger the sustain gets and the more harmonic it gets as well.
@martin-1965
@martin-1965 2 года назад
I like it when it resonates not just the guitar body but MY whole body as well, but... now I'm older and the tinnitus is there in the background, plus stages are getting super quiet these days (except for drummers who are never quiet) I can't enjoy stupidly wonderful loud amps the way I could way back in my youth. Kinda miss that but also need my ears to keep working - sucks.
@louderthangod
@louderthangod 2 года назад
@@martin-1965 Thankfully many clubs that have metal bands play still let you get away with a full stack. I’m 48 and thankfully I learned early on to get the largest practice space possible and never set up near the drummer those cymbals are what kill your hearing and my ears are pretty decent still.
@martin-1965
@martin-1965 2 года назад
@@louderthangod Yeah it was the hihats and cymbals that took out the frequencies in the right ear in my case, which was the side facing the drummer. But back in the 80s and 90s we didn't know or more to the point, didn't care. Sadly my singer from back then was a maniac and he's ended up almost completely deaf so I'll consider a light whistling noise in my ears as a warning shot in comparison. Still miss playing that loud though :)
@andrijasentic9702
@andrijasentic9702 2 года назад
that is feedback, not sustain
@careerminorleaguer
@careerminorleaguer 2 года назад
Feedback is when a systems input picks up it's own out output. Ie the guitars pickup picks up the speaker. He is talking about the strings, wood, etc actually vibrating in response to the volume. That is a separate thing and a definite contributing factor to actual sustain.
@house-o-twang
@house-o-twang 2 года назад
Rhett, I found a partscaster that blew my mind the way it vibrated and sounded. That feeling hasn't worn off & I play it as often as I can.
@ramrodthenigmatic5615
@ramrodthenigmatic5615 2 года назад
Hey Rhett, your videos are the best! There's no fancy video editing, no bullshit. Relevant issues, great information for guitarists of all levels, and I can tell you are a real humble guy. You want to give back. I've learned so much from you. Thank you. Vin
@terenzo50
@terenzo50 2 года назад
There's a video interview with Stephen Stills & Neil Young from ages ago in which the interviewer expressed astonishment at their learning curve relative to their second album differing so greatly from their first. What would you say was the most important thing you had learned, he asked? They answered simultaneously with one word: "Compression!"
@slizz_detroit
@slizz_detroit 2 года назад
Want to see this!
@cnking27
@cnking27 2 года назад
That's awesome. I love what compression and EQ alone (and reverb of course) do to a clean guitar sound, it's like it makes the guitar sound "more natural" than natural, if that's possible.
@phasemod
@phasemod 2 года назад
I actually recently had to do some work to get *less* sustain on my 335. Every note was just too bright and long lived--I wanted to get more of a woodier, thuddier sound with a faster decay and, with flatwound 11s, I got it. And I love how it sounds. I could see myself even switching to a wooden bridge, but I've got everything dialed in so tight with intonation and everything, it's pretty much perfect for me right now.
@RoloTomasie
@RoloTomasie 2 года назад
Wow, phenomenal summation of guitar construction and how it effects the player. I really appreciate your pragmatic approach.
@hangaroundrecords4761
@hangaroundrecords4761 2 года назад
Haha, that intro!! I love that you are always able to keep an open mind Rhett. We guitar players all need to try to do that! I think also as an audience member at a live show the appearance of a guitar makes a big difference in how you hear it.
@KLBoringBand
@KLBoringBand 2 года назад
I was thinking for sure when that sound started, “oh, this is the plus pedal.” Was right. Very nice
@NiallCrossley
@NiallCrossley 2 года назад
Rhett, this is such a good video. The guitar is a conduit for the player to get “their sound” across to the listener. This is why so many different players love so many different types of guitars, amps, pedals, pickups etc. the true value of a guitar is in how it makes the player feel. As you say, “if you think it sounds good, then it is good”.
@carverpartin6604
@carverpartin6604 2 года назад
This was a great video Rhett. Definitely one of my favorites
@E.T.musics
@E.T.musics 2 года назад
Everytime you re making your point very well. You can use the words very well and giving lots of good information as well. Thats why im clicking on your videos even if the topic is not always what i search for . Congrats
@SorenJohnsonGuitar
@SorenJohnsonGuitar 2 года назад
That intro got me. Well done.
@piperofsimms
@piperofsimms 2 года назад
Really enjoyable and informative. Thank you Rhett.
@adehorton7287
@adehorton7287 2 года назад
Thanks Rhett, you’ve made me feel better in the knowledge that my guitar is merely an extension of the music that is inside of me and with all the components needed to give the electric guitar my voice through my fingers! 🤘🏻
@Guitarjosii
@Guitarjosii 2 года назад
Oh I loved your explanation of "resonance". Thats exactly what I am thinking about my '68 SG Special.
@lowqualityguitarvideos
@lowqualityguitarvideos 2 года назад
You make great points here. Cheers from another 65 sg junior owner.
@druwk
@druwk 2 года назад
Amen! It all has an impact, but it’s the player. How you feel playing a tone will only inspire as long as you don’t start comparing yourself to others.
@RC32Smiths01
@RC32Smiths01 2 года назад
Sustain is very cool for compositions I like to play and think up, so this is quite an interesting analysis as always man. Cheers!
@jonathanwapner6262
@jonathanwapner6262 2 года назад
My favorite guitars have also been the relatively lightweight, resonant, and loud when unplugged types. My Gibson Gothic Flying V, Billy Corgan Signature Strat, and my newly acquired Squier Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster come to mind.
@victorcampos6865
@victorcampos6865 2 года назад
Amazing video as always!
@ghosttownreview1531
@ghosttownreview1531 2 года назад
"Instruments are not just tools for making sound. They are more so designed for the instrumentalist to interactive with." Fantastic way to define the purpose of an instrument. I'm primarily a bass player and my custom shop Fender P bass sounds and looks fantastic, but feels terrible. The feel is opposite of what I hear and therefore uninspiring. Meanwhile my Fender American Elite Jazz sounds amazing, but also feels great and is a match between what I feel and what I hear. Great topic of discussion!
@mojoshopguitar6172
@mojoshopguitar6172 2 года назад
watch mojo shop guitar ,and learn how to fix that bass
@rondelio8562
@rondelio8562 2 года назад
Great points made, Rhett!! Since I build electrics, I would say that all the elements that go into a guitar make the guitar what it is. I also agree with the points you made and the use of true science to back up your points. Thank you for this!!
@Tonskiislegit
@Tonskiislegit 2 года назад
This is exactly what people need to hear! Great job.
@rodmorgan7041
@rodmorgan7041 2 года назад
You said that so well. Oh, and that jnr looks fantastic !
@mderose214
@mderose214 2 года назад
Love this video! Don't fantasize and debate about dream gear's sustain, start playing what you have and figure it out for yourself!
@ScottfromBaltimore
@ScottfromBaltimore 2 года назад
Nice exploration on the question of what makes a guitar good.
@TheJayblue1
@TheJayblue1 2 года назад
Man... you Nailed it... what a video... your take on this conondrum syndrom where nothing really is important about how we feel about what we play... man... spot on... thanks for keeping the inspiration coming... 😎😎👏👏🔊🔊🎸🎸🎸🤟🤟😃😃🙏🙏
@DavidMorales008
@DavidMorales008 2 года назад
Excellent wisdom is growing through new thought experience
@ganjafarmer1572
@ganjafarmer1572 2 года назад
Thanks for this video. I ran one of your SG videos thru my sound system, that thing SINGS. I am sure youtube compresses the signal , even so .....magic. Big up.
@whirekobzin
@whirekobzin 2 года назад
In my opinion a good electric guitar needs to have some decent sustain. I like when I (and not the guitar) get to decide when to end a note. Adding drive or compression can be limiting, because it raises the noise floor and decreases dynamics.
@cderosa1185
@cderosa1185 2 года назад
Rhett great video and I totally get what your saying about the vintage guitar being reflective. I recently had that same experience. Picked up a 335 Jim James and was a little upset that it didn’t give me that reflective feeling. It was almost too compressed. However a pickup height adjustment fixed that for me. Not I feel like it’s giving me back what I put in it
@ChristopherOrth
@ChristopherOrth 2 года назад
A thing worth mentioning is how the current aggressive use of noise gates is a sure fire sustain killer. I find this to be the case on most modelers... a majority of the stock patches have such aggressive noise gating on them that it kills off the beautiful tails of most notes. Turning those blocks off and doing nothing else will give you miles of sustain! Or at least turn down the sensitivity so you can hold a longer note. After that... every guitar has a volume knob, btw... just sayin.
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye 2 года назад
Regarding resonance, I had an eye opening experience years ago with Bass. I had a cheap 70's Epiphone Newport for my first bass (the ET-288N, an entry level import, not one of the sought after 60's Newports), and I never really thought about resonance since it was my first bass. I just thought mine was typical of how basses are in general. But then I bought a modern Schecter thinking it would be a big upgrade. It arrived and one of the first things I noticed about it was if I played it unplugged, I couldn't hear anything. I literally had to stick my ear right over the strings to hear them and there was barely a whisper of sound coming off them. Then plugged in, I found it didn't have nearly the the amount of rich, deep bass and mids as my other one, even though it had an *active EQ*! That was what really got me - active EQ, and even cranking the bass knob, it couldn't compete with my old passive Epiphone. I played a couple of shows with it because it was pretty, but then sold it to a co-worker without a second thought or any regrets.
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 2 года назад
Sustain is all about technique. And volume, too. Gary Moore is a good example. Squeeze the life out of the notes.
@3500ton
@3500ton 2 года назад
Squeezing it from an original 59 LP standard through cranked tube amp makes it even better. Gary was one of the best ever though
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 2 года назад
@Burnt Gerbil: Have you seen the Guitarist magazine interview with GM in which he talks about how to go about choosing a good guitar? He mentions that unplugged, a guitar should be loud and have sustain (i.e. when you hold a note and add vibrato it doesn’t die on you or wilt away too quickly). Yes, the volume that a player like him used live will certainly help with feedback, etc. but I think there is something to be said for a guitar sounding good acoustically. Having to hammer away at it with the picking hand in an attempt to get it to sing isn’t really the way to go.
@thecroft6070
@thecroft6070 2 года назад
Love the look of your SG Junior, especially its perfectly formed pickguard
@kevingreen3365
@kevingreen3365 2 года назад
Good stuff, brother… very well done 👍🏻
@arsethehorse
@arsethehorse 2 года назад
Really good vid Rhett and early P90 SGs are brilliant at bringing out the best in the player in my experience for the reasons you explain.
@mathiasplihal1242
@mathiasplihal1242 2 года назад
But isn’t that sustain having to do with the feedback of the speaker too?
@sohosteveuk
@sohosteveuk 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 No. It's the result of utilising an effect pedal
@mathiasplihal1242
@mathiasplihal1242 2 года назад
I know but you can make that with the feed back of the speaker, I’ve done it before with loud volume with minimal gain
@American-Dragon
@American-Dragon 2 года назад
If you are not using it for leads that call for sustain it don't matter. I have the analogman rangemaster clone, beano boost, it will make any guitar sustain forever and it's a lot cheaper than a novo but a novo is very nice
@jakestewartmusic
@jakestewartmusic 2 года назад
100%, I feel like pleasing feedback is actually what most guitarists think of when they think of great examples of 'sustain' in music
@mathiasplihal1242
@mathiasplihal1242 2 года назад
@@jakestewartmusic yea it’s a more “harmonious” feedback since it’s actually feedbacking a higher interval than the “open” strings if you just leave it feedback, they harmonize i think that’s what makes it different
@tejassingh4404
@tejassingh4404 2 года назад
Hey love your videos! I would say that a lot of folks use "lack of sustain" as a way of communicating not so well made instruments. I remember the first electric guitar I ever had. It had a dead spot at the 11th fret - no sustain. Literally like half a second. I have no clue why. It didn't matter if I put on compression or cranked the gain. To me and my fellow guitarists, that guitar had a "sustain issue".
@kevinlocke6120
@kevinlocke6120 2 года назад
Sounds like it had a fret sticking up slightly that was deadening the sound.
@MrLiftr
@MrLiftr 2 года назад
I love your sneaky sense of humor man I cracked up in the first 10 seconds of this vid🤣
@JonahKrullMusic
@JonahKrullMusic 2 года назад
Well said 👏 I’m shopping for a new main guitar now that I’m playing out every weekend, and the guitar I was gonna get had a huge price hike recently (heritage H535). But this video has inspired me to just go out and try a bunch of different ones, maybe even styles I never considered and just go with whatever feels right
@cnking27
@cnking27 2 года назад
Take your amp to play through and make a lot of noise
@john564holloway
@john564holloway 2 года назад
@@cnking27 Agreed, totally. When buying an electric guitar, hopefully your amp is small enough to go with you unless they have an exact Marshall stack there (lol)...If your hunting for an amp, ALWAYS use your guitar, not one from the store.
@mojacarflamenco6314
@mojacarflamenco6314 2 года назад
Don't buy a guitar. Buy your guitar.
@john564holloway
@john564holloway 2 года назад
@@mojacarflamenco6314 Dat's rite!
@cnking27
@cnking27 2 года назад
​@@john564holloway I'm kind of going backwards with it, I've been playing through a crappy practice amp with a crappy Squier from 1998 for almost a year. I live in a super rural area so I'm planning to get a Katana delivered, without playing through it first, because I figure I can't go wrong with that and I get to mess around with a ton of tones that way...and then I'll drag it with me to find the right guitar. I can't imagine getting a guitar without playing it first.
@bwest2010
@bwest2010 2 года назад
Great video Rhett. Your point about resonance is spot on. Some guitars, for lack of a better term, actually feel alive when they are played. The same model sitting next to may not. The same goes for tube amplifiers. The comfortability factor is also huge and an element people often overlook and should be the primary consideration for new guitarists. A $3000.00 Les Paul that hangs on the wall because it's 12 lbs of back ache is not a great guitar. It's wall art. These factors often manifest subliminally. I have a collection of guitars to pick off the wall to play including Strats, Jaguar, Surfcasters, Les Paul copy, Schecter, Jacksons etc but one day I noticed that the guitar I always picked off the wall to play, especially during free time creative noodling, was a custom 3/4 size semi acoustic Surfcaster. When I analyzed why it became clear it was because it was the most comfortable to play in any position. It also sang under the fingers, but so did most of the rest also.
@KakavashaForever
@KakavashaForever Год назад
You make a great point about the way a guitar vibrates and feels while playing being important, I had a guitar that really resonated and I found it so distracting I had to get rid of it even though I loved the way it sounded. I took it back down to the shop I got it from and traded it back in for another identical guitar that didn't resonate the same way while being played. Both guitars were 1997 BC rich Warlocks, both were brand new, and both were set up by the same man to my specifications, Both sounded identical, but one had a tactile resonance that I found distracting and the other didn't.
@shortstack7365
@shortstack7365 2 года назад
One of the pitfalls of lots of criticisms/videos is crapping all over an idea and leaving it at that. I love that most of your videos present an alternative concept to latch onto versus the misconception you're discussing. It reminds me of the "consider the following" segment from the Bill Nye videos I watched in school as a kid. Thanks for keeping up with the great content.
@kokobily
@kokobily 2 года назад
Rhett, this is to the point! an excellent video! :) am I hearing a feedback lood on that prototype distortion??
@jamesdickinson4186
@jamesdickinson4186 2 года назад
Great video Rhett. Could you possibly talk about feed back and how to produce it and how to use it? Thank you.
@colinwallace5286
@colinwallace5286 2 года назад
My sister has two Larivee acoustics from the late 80’s that were built by Jean himself, and had the inlay work (it’s really art, no question) done by his wife. They’re visually stunning, but also great sounding instruments. She has said many times that she is lucky to call him a friend, and humbled that he gave her the opportunity to have guitars she only dreamed of. There is something special about playing what is essentially a tangible part of someone’s life’s work and passion.
@migueleespinosa2632
@migueleespinosa2632 2 года назад
Larivee are some of the most vocal acoustics I have ever played. Made the mistake of not getting one in the 1990s but the impression it left on me is obliviously unforgettable.
@piersuntersander
@piersuntersander 2 года назад
Fantastic video. The subject matter is one thing, but how you were able to rip through the majority of it without a prompter or a million takes speaks volumes on how far you've come in this YT game. Intelligent, well-articulated content motivates the viewer's intellect and , I believe, has longer lasting beneficial impact on the channel than regurgitating trending content ad nuseaum. Wurdz is hard. Well done, Rhett, loved this one!
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 2 года назад
Rhett has tremendous on-camera presence and a radio DJ voice.
@sergioserramusic
@sergioserramusic 2 года назад
There is only one thing I can say about sustain: when is the guitar that has a lot of sustain is better because creating it with compression and overdrive adds noise. My LP has the most sustain out of all my guitars, and I tend to play differently on it because of that feature
@MrBurakOzel
@MrBurakOzel 2 года назад
and this is why the anology in video is pure stupidity..
@ericwobschall8410
@ericwobschall8410 2 года назад
The feedback that the instrument gives the performer definitely affects the performance. Also, if you have the choice between instrument derived sustain and electronic sustain, I prefer to start at the beginning. Of course, it depends what you're going for. But it's the same in recording. Move the mic or change the mic before you equalize.
@tymeryder7264
@tymeryder7264 2 года назад
I agree with your thoughts. To me an important part of why I pick a guitar is the kinesthetic experience when striking the strings. My favorite is a Fender Mahogany Blacktop Stratocaster HHH. The body resonates when I play it and I feel the Mahogany vibrate against me. As you say that feedback loop. I always enjoy your thoughtful dialogue.
@ericwarrington6650
@ericwarrington6650 2 года назад
Good deep dive man...that 65 SG Jr is my favorite guitar of yours already...❤️🤘😜🎸🎶🔥
@alanturingandthetapes5575
@alanturingandthetapes5575 2 года назад
i lol'd at the "sustain demo", great video video idea: would love to see you take your pick of a fender player series or similar and see if you are able to get it to play in a way you're happy with after a few mods i did that recently with the player p90 mustang and it was a fun challenge
@jowensoderlund
@jowensoderlund 2 года назад
This is a great video/overall point. I would have mentioned a 4th type of sustain - when the guitar amp/speaker sound is reintroduced to the guitar's pickup(s).
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 2 года назад
I think Rhett should do a whole video on feedback through speakers. That Hendrix-style feedback is kind of its own instrument.
@samueljones3682
@samueljones3682 2 года назад
This is a really important point. There are so many sounds and vibrations the player is aware of that the listener is not, but that does not mean those sounds and vibrations aren’t important. They are important because they inform the player’s playing and facilitate inspiration.
@FarmKid1715
@FarmKid1715 2 года назад
My go to test on a new guitar it to hold the body up to my ear and play an big open E chord and let it ring out. That’s a quick test that gives a pretty good sign of whether I will like it or not.
@dominicijavier1575
@dominicijavier1575 2 года назад
love this explanation about a player's affinity to the instrument. it's human. a lot of people saying that video proves tone is only on the pickups don't understand.
@pd-kx4qw
@pd-kx4qw 2 года назад
Love that you use the SG for this video. They have that ring to them like no other guitar. At least any that I’ve played. If you want to see a crazy level of ‘the ring’ on a SG try using the elixir nanoweb extra long life strings in 10-46. They are pricey but whatever it’s the cost of a few cups of coffee and the difference is 👍. I started using them a few months back on a Std 61 and they just sound fantastic. I play that guitar a lot and they still look brand new. Same strings too.
@thebenefactor6744
@thebenefactor6744 2 года назад
I've had a few pickups wound for me recently that inadvertently had greater sustain than any previous ones. That part was an extra happy surprise that i didn't expect. They stand out as far as the finger vibrato aspect is concerned, but I enjoy the other pickups that I own just as much because I choose pickups that impart a distinct tone that sets them apart from the others; tones that change my day and expand my tone arsenal, giving me a variety of choice from the wide palate of guitar sounds that we all know and love. I like the extra aspect of sustain, but I chose all my pickups first and foremost because of their tone. Tone is king. Make well researched choices and you'll enjoy your guitars and amps every day for years.
@marksato7986
@marksato7986 2 года назад
Interesting take. Definitely food for thought.
@justinpaquette224
@justinpaquette224 2 года назад
I disagree. Good fret work, well functioning saddles and nut, and proper setup all matter (a lot) when it comes to sustain, and the bloom of a note. Every little zing or buzz is killing the energy of the string and interrupting the bloom of the note.
@RenoLaringo
@RenoLaringo Год назад
It's a myth. Of course a very badly adjusted guitar will not produce any good sound but sustain and tone don't come from the guitar material, nor paint or frets.
@justinpaquette224
@justinpaquette224 Год назад
@@RenoLaringo Are you saying that Steel, brass and pot metal saddles all sound the same and have no effect on sustain or the bloom of the note? and that tiny super soft nickel frets sound exactly the same as big giant stainless steel frets? Contact points matter. What about a steel tele bridge plate? I've measured the change in inductance as I screw a pickup into the bridge plate and inductances changes tone and output
@RenoLaringo
@RenoLaringo Год назад
@@justinpaquette224 Yes, that is basically what I'm saying.... The timbre might slightly change regarding nut materials but that's about it. No human beeing could hear the difference anyway. Big frets or smaller ones don't make any difference whatsoever either. They make just contact on a point (frets are round so are the strings, there is no bigger contact surface depending on the fret sizes, just more surface for your fingers to pinch the string onto which can make you play out of tune more easily and more inertia on the bigger frets which in fact is actually detrimental to sustain). Also bigger frets make your guitar play out of tune the more they wear. The smaller the frets, the most accurate note pitch and sustain you get in the long run, given the frets are correctly settled, ask any serious luthier). That's the reason why you won't never find jumbo frets on classical instruments. Fret buzz is another story and can indeed kill sustain (as the neck-to-body type of fixings do) but that's part of normal guitar adjustments. So yes, I completely disagree on that. A simple experiment with any computer can confirm. I agree a good setup can make a huge difference vs a bad one, but it has little to nothing to do with fret sizes or saddle materials (or paint, varnish and guitar wood while we're at it). All the above don't change anything to the sound of an electric guitar. You could stretch your strings between two bricks and it would still sound exactly the same with the same pu's. If a spectrum analyzer and digital recorder cannot tell the difference, I highly doubt any (non-biased) human ears could. Been there, done that. Don't fall in that commercial trap anymore. We all did and it can be a costly bias. Regarding the change in inductance you measured, if it was significant, I would check the grounds wiring and contact points. You might have an issue there. In a normal situation, when your pu's are grounded correctly, there is no reason the inductance would drastically change (to the point of affecting tone and output) by only screwing them to a grounded metal part of your guitar, unless there would be some ground leak, a ground loop somewhere or if you happen to touch your strings or any metal part on your guitar while measuring. To get the most sustain, prefer a guitar with bolt-on neck (yes, Strats do have more sustain than LP's 😉 I'm not going to make me friends here lol), make sure everything is super tight at the bridge and the tuners and finally have your frets settled with the tightest fit possible which can only be achieved by a complete fret job at a good guitar shop. Hope this helps 🤘👍
@bobbyfields7359
@bobbyfields7359 2 года назад
Great analysis! The “how it feels in your hand” is a real thing! Though it may have nothing to do with what’s coming out of the amp. I was talking with a professional mechanical re: hand tools and why someone would spend $350 on a simple set of wrenches that could be purchased for about $20. He explained that the premium tools just felt so much better in your hands. He then went on to explain that he was being paid by the bench rate, how many hours of labor a customer is paying for the job. With superior designed tools this meant he’s less likely to drop them and his hands were not as fatigued so he could conceivably get paid a 20 hour bench rate inside an 8 hour day. A great mechanic and great tools makes for a great performance!
@NicolasFernandezSaralegui
@NicolasFernandezSaralegui 2 года назад
Excelente video!
@MrMd5555
@MrMd5555 2 года назад
When this video first started who else was ready to cancel their subscription to this channel when he was trying to claim that was natural sustain!! Lol then he showed that pedal & i thought thank god, Rhett hasn't lost his mind!
@stevenpipes1555
@stevenpipes1555 2 года назад
Oh Rhett, you were so close to making my point! Tone comes from the inspiration, and inspiration comes, largely from the way the guitar feels. A good sustain, in my opinion, is less about how long the note rings, and more about how strong and healthy the note jumps off of the guitar. A guitar with great sustain is letting the notes ring out stronger and with a more natural decay. If i play a bit on any guitar, then hand that same guitar to Stevie Ray, Chris Buck, or to you, it will sound different. Before the pickups detect anything, the strings need to vibrate. Every guitar lets the strings vibrate differently, so the tones frequency may come from the pickups and amp, but the tones charecter comes from the way the guitar feels and rings. I use the same strings on all of my guitars and, unplugged, they all sound different.if it was all a trick of strings and magnets alone, then unplugged with identical strings, they would all just be the same!
@maxpeck4154
@maxpeck4154 2 года назад
How strong and healthy the note jumps off the guitar. Perfect way to put that. 👍🏻
@mojoshopguitar6172
@mojoshopguitar6172 2 года назад
Radius the pickups, puts the strings in the same part of the magnetic field, for even magnetic pull. Also all notes must play perfectly in tune, for this to happen. learn more at mojo shop guitar on youtube.
@michael1
@michael1 2 месяца назад
You're close. Tone comes from inspiration, which comes from perspiration which comes from precipitation that derives from evaporation which comes from radiation which comes from the sun which comes from helium which comes from hydrogen which comes from the big bang. So all you need to get good tone is a big bang and that's why I use diamond picks.
@judewessel5713
@judewessel5713 2 года назад
Honestly that guitar is so cool man, first time I saw you playing it in a vid I went right to their website but couldn’t find it :,( lol love the vids man
@TheLeandroSOliveira
@TheLeandroSOliveira 2 года назад
Thank you, Rhett! I've been a believer that the whole sustain thing doesn't matter for years now, but somehow guitar players are still debating this very thing. I've never played a single guitar in my life, cheap or expensive, that didn't sustain enough for me to do my thing while playing it.
@guitfinger
@guitfinger 2 года назад
Interesting topic. Two points mentioning. first of all: sustain is the opposite of resonance. The more something (the wood) resonates, the more it sucks out energy from the vibrating string. Thats why acoustic guitars are loud, but don't have that much sustain: the string has to move the resonant guitar body and translates it's energy into the wood. On the opposite: the most sustain you probably will get out of a string mounted on a big, heavy body of concrete or steel. As the body is so heavy and stiff, it wont take any energy out of the string, so the string can vibrate with the least dampening. In my opinion a great electric guitar is always a compromise between resonance and sustain. As Rhett says: we like to feel resonance and if it feels good, we will sound better. My second point: the more resonance a guitar has, the more character the wood and the construction of the guitar adds to the strings vibration. That's also something guitar players like.
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 2 года назад
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!
@williammyers9209
@williammyers9209 2 года назад
that opening cracked me up
@kenzuercher7497
@kenzuercher7497 2 года назад
Nice discussion. I have found recently that The amp is also a big factor in sustain. about 6-10 dB below the "sweet spot" the tubes begin to compress the signal, effectively evening out the notes. The 'sweet spot' can be moved lower by using a Tube Screamer or a Soul Food type pedal. The Soul Food spot is a bit further toward clipping. Another big thing is to follow the lead of the shredders and pick lighter and turn up the amp to compensate. Hard picking gives a big transient at the beginning of the note and if the amp volume is set for that transient, your notes appear disconnected and actually have less sustain. I switched (after 50 years!) from a 1.52 mm pick to a Fender thin and its extended my sustain by not allowing me to overpack the beginning of the note. You never know! Keep up the great discussions and observations, Rhett!
@maxpeck4154
@maxpeck4154 2 года назад
Excellent points. I don't use pedals at all but letting the amp do they work and break up naturally while varying pick dynamics is satisfying and inspiring. You're bang on about picking too hard and killing a note. That frustrated me for years. Switched from .12s with an extra heavy pick in my teen years to .10s with a thin pick in my 40s. If only I had known back then...
@migueleespinosa2632
@migueleespinosa2632 2 года назад
We all develop differently. I use to play exclusively light picks for about 40 years but now play a V-pick big Fattie 5mm with a lighter attack strumming and soloing with better control of expression, and yes sustain. I use more compression now because of quieter stage volume requirements, direct to PA modeler use, and because my dynamics grew immensely with the use of thick pick.
@figueiredomarcelobe
@figueiredomarcelobe 2 года назад
Rhett, this is a very good video and I share the same thoughts. As a player I can say the link I have with each gear makes me feel and play different and this have a huge impact on the music we are playing. There is no need to anyone keep experimenting to prove that only strings and pickups matter, because it is subjective to each player and music and art are subjective. I am eletronic engineer and I love messup with my rig but I never forget the final motive is music, art and everthing is subjective.
@bartlettpsj
@bartlettpsj 2 года назад
Two things that define my sound are my pick and how I feel that day!
@Terry3Gs
@Terry3Gs 2 года назад
Well explained rhett !! Back in the "tonewood" days .. i always felt it was the sum of ALL the parts. Even today peaple will STILL argue basswood is crap ... but meanwhile for decades Ibanez has put out high end guitars with bodies totally made of basswood ... and they never sound bad or have bad sustain or resonance.
@felonyx5123
@felonyx5123 2 года назад
I see it as: wood does change tone. You can watch an A/B comparison with people swapping out the neck or body but all the same everything else, there is a difference. But it's not a big difference. If you don't have the direct comparison you'd hardly notice. But a bunch of other factors work the same way, this or that part also makes a little bit of a difference, and if you design the whole instrument so all those little differences are all pulling the tone the same way, it'll add up to a difference that matters.
@waldemarpierzchalski
@waldemarpierzchalski 2 года назад
Actually there's many types of basswood and some are expensive, not all basswoods are cheap
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 2 года назад
People who think basswood is crap simply don't know enough about why basswood is actually a good tonewood-because it is stiff and light, so it is resonant. It's also a nice wood for making objects, because it has very consistent, tight grain and machines smoothly. However, bassword is also relatively soft, so it is easy to damage.
@diegogallardo8604
@diegogallardo8604 2 года назад
Ibanez? Try John Suhr. Try EVH. Music Man. All use Basswood on expensive instruments, and have for a long time.
@EddieKingMusic
@EddieKingMusic 2 года назад
My wife has given me several guitars over the past decade including 2 for my birthday just recently. We are lucky men! Agree totally on the "if the guitar makes you happy when you play it's a good guitar" they all have personalities as well. Some days I pick one over all the others. They are like old friends sometimes and you have to pay them a visit.
@VAWOZNIAK
@VAWOZNIAK 2 года назад
After watching this video, Rhett, I understand now what ‘sustain’ really means. The original note on the guitar is no different, but it’s VOLUME can be SUSTAINED for a longer duration of the held note (or notes in the case of a held chord)..
@fullbeans983
@fullbeans983 2 года назад
I 100% agree. My second acoustic was so resonant I felt my voice in it when I first held it, I played for about 30 seconds and knew I was taking it home. The whole feeling good equals sounding good upwards spiral that starts from feeling that resonance aswell as hearing it is on point, exactly how that instrument effects me. My current acoustic doesn't have that same connection to me.
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 2 года назад
Oh, yeah, acoustic and electric guitars are entirely different things. An acoustic guitar *must* resonate according to its principle of operation.
@BanBanChi
@BanBanChi 2 года назад
My acoustic guitar is so resonant that when I cough I can hear it vibrate! First time that happened in the middle of the night I thought we had a ghost
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 2 года назад
@@BanBanChi That's the sign of a good acoustic. It wants to couple with the air around it.
@BanBanChi
@BanBanChi 2 года назад
@@Lantertronics good to know. It's a 30 year old Takamine student model that I got at a second hand shop in Japan for less than $50!
@fullbeans983
@fullbeans983 2 года назад
@Lantertronics - Aaron Lanterman I never tried saying electric or acoustic are the same. That still doesn't change the fact some acoustics are more resonant than others but thanks for the information I suppose.
@deanz9161
@deanz9161 2 года назад
I have a 1979 Ibanez Iceman ps10. Paul Stanley from KISS sold these even back then. It sustains forever before I ever plug it in. When I plug it in I don’t need alot of help from pedals at all. It sounds great!
@benhoodmusic2283
@benhoodmusic2283 2 года назад
You nailed this one man 👍
@Dexterrjoe
@Dexterrjoe 2 года назад
Loving that guitar man!
@maxpeck4154
@maxpeck4154 2 года назад
Your description of that Custom Shop SG feeling like a sponge is exactly how I feel about my 2020 Standard 61. USA Standard model, a beautiful guitar, no quality or playability issues whatsoever, but it feels like I have to fight to get sound out of it. My 2014 Firebird I just bought, a model that is not noteworthy at all aside from it's a "120th Anniversary" model is EXTREMELY resonant and every note practically plays itself, just effortless. Completely different guitars, granted. I wanted THAT SG since I was 13 and love the feel of it, plays like butter, but I've tried 4 sets of pickups (the original BB 61s, Bare Knuckle HB sized P90s, Lollartrons, Lollar Gold Foils) and didn't love the sound of any of them. Then I got that Firebird with Lollar Firebird pickups already in it and from the first minute I played it it became my #1. There's nothing it won't do, super underrated and versatile, but the resonance and ease at which the notes just pour out of it makes me even more frustrated with the SG. I lucked out with the Firebird. I'm a little bummed about the SG...
@stevenjefferies9415
@stevenjefferies9415 2 года назад
Very happy to see this video Rhett. Its about what plays good and feels good in the hand. The wood does that for sure. It has almost zero bearing about what comes out the amp, but you combine good pickups/setup with a guitar that feels great in the hand, you've got a winner. It could be that $5,000 Gibson, or that $500 Epiphone with upgraded Gibson pickups. The tone out the amp will be the same, but it also needs to pair with how well it feels to play and vibrates with you. To the point of all this, the term "tone-wood" in this case is really false nomenclature. It should really be called "feel-wood" or "connection-wood" (I know those are stupid though) because the wood is simply the connective tissue between the player and the guitar, not the tone. And that connectivity is big, but is not a tone driver. Again, very happy to see this video. Good stuff Rhett.
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 2 года назад
I like the term "feel-wood" -- and love the phrase "the wood is simply the connective tissue between the player and the guitar"
@MrLegion501st
@MrLegion501st 2 года назад
I like what you said at the end; there is too many people bashing others for buying certain brands, because they cannot afford the big names. Others bashing people for buying branded guitars and not fully 100% hand made and buying a useless piece of plastic made by a machine, according to them. Just spreading hate instead doing what they supposedly love, that is playing the guitar. Good video as always.
@andym1926
@andym1926 2 года назад
Rhett youre leveling up
@basilandrigsby
@basilandrigsby 2 года назад
Agreed. I hate fret buzz on an unplugged guitar. Even if you can’t hear it when it’s plugged in. Does my head in.
@epadif
@epadif 2 года назад
As someone who was classically trained, I really agree on how our perception of the instrument influences the way we play. I have experience how a piano would sound and feel totally different when moved to a different room and how that would make it feel easier or more difficult to play (therefore having a huge impact on my performance). Even when it was just tuned, the feeling of the keyboard would change. I realized that our perception of an instrument is a combination of tactile and auditory input when I experience how the keyboard on my digital piano would feel as a different instrument regarding key weight, depth and response depending on if I was listening through a wedge monitor, built in speakers or headphones, even though mechanically it was the exact same thing.
@deanzlife
@deanzlife 2 года назад
My first guitar was a maestro sg junior & man do I want another now
@DanHomeAtLast
@DanHomeAtLast 2 года назад
I love compressors I have at least 20 different pedals rack and vintage compressors my favourite for bass is the dbx 118 119 units so squishy like a warm blanket
@harrys.5550
@harrys.5550 2 года назад
I agree with your points of view in this video and would add the following- One of the original ways to create sustain in an electric guitar is finger vibrato. Get good at it and you'll have sustain and tone for days. Also, the workbench guitar "experiment" was just a revisit to the century old Southern Diddley Bow- 2 nails on the side of a barn with wire pulled tight between them and a bottle or knife to create sounds.
@andrewbecker3700
@andrewbecker3700 2 года назад
Best video yet on this ongoing debate about what actually matters most when searching for tone. If the guitar doesn't inspire you create and enjoy music, however that may be. Mechanically or astetically, then move on. To tell anyone that "hey, this is the best, and screw the rest". Is non sensical. The best is where your at in the moment. Enjoy what you have and practice more.
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 2 года назад
I recall a well-known producer saying something like "the best microphone is the one that's closest/already hooked up when you're feeling inspired."
@nick16754
@nick16754 2 года назад
the tree outside to the left of Rhett's head is glitching during this video but still a good video as always :)
@joeurbanowski321
@joeurbanowski321 2 года назад
Brett..! I’m working on a jobsite only 6 minutes from a Guitar Center.. Not my fave music store.. but now ya got me drooling for some gear… HAHAHA..! And it’s payday..!!!
@MarcsVlogVids
@MarcsVlogVids 2 года назад
I have the Black Epiphone version of that red SG you're holding, but mines made in 2012.
@davidpekarsky2977
@davidpekarsky2977 2 года назад
I’m telling everyone to try an H9 in the loop of that Plus pedal!
@kapstersmusic
@kapstersmusic 2 года назад
Interesting. I have always been happy with the resonance of the neck of my 70's lp custom, even though the heavy pancake body sits like a brick. And its sustain has always been beyond amazing, even playing though headphones so no feedback was involved. I watched the Jim Lill video also, and in some ways that pancake body is like a workbench with two motors holding it down. The thin neck on the other hand does add resonance and haptic feedback, which is satisfying. I am really curious about hollow body electrics, because kinetic energy is transferred from the strings to the hollow body, which has to change the tone (attack, decay, sustain) and probably lowers the total output from the electronics. With amplification of course that output can be replaced. Hollow body guitars have always sounded more "jangly" to me, kind of naturally compressed as well.
@JillandKevin
@JillandKevin 2 года назад
So..one of the things that show that a guitar body, neck, etc does indeed make a difference in tone. Models of Gibson's L5's, es175's, es 335's (& variants), Les Paul models, and MANY other guitars (although these may have similar aftermarket fru-fru pickups) use '57 Classic & '57 Classic Plus in Neck & Bridge respectively. (MAYBE different tone caps, but that doesn't matter wide open). They sound vastly different, which clearly demonstrates that the construction & woods DO in fact make a difference in tone. And yes, I do agree that the feel of vibrations definitely give a positive feedback to the player. Thanks for the great videos, Rhett!!
@garyslash7552
@garyslash7552 2 года назад
Thank you so much, Rhett, for demystifying some of guitarists' beloved beliefs. As far as I am concerned, something similar holds true for notions like 'Plexi' or 'PAF'. The abuse of these terms for commercial reasons has made them more or less meaningless. Tone, as you say, is the result of many components, which makes the chase for THE ultimate sound frustrating at times.
@mikaashton2152
@mikaashton2152 2 года назад
I'm with you in the sense of just play it and if you like it well that's that.. Simple... We live unfortunately in a world where it's more about consuming...
@tristanbouchonnet1461
@tristanbouchonnet1461 2 года назад
The idea of this positive feedback loop is really an amazing idea !! Damn Rhett, do a t-shirt with "if it sounds good, it is good" I'd buy a thousand !
@DDE_ADDICT
@DDE_ADDICT 2 года назад
I agree I make all my guitars and the bodies are Sycamour which is less dense than alder and swamp Ash, and they all ring out very loud and all sound killer with A2 mag pickups
@micahjonesmusic
@micahjonesmusic 2 года назад
Just throwing this out there, but sustain does have an important relationship with noise. You can totally add sustain with compression, but you also bring up the noise floor of the signal overall. I have a Gretsch that, when I first got it, required a lot more compression to achieve the same sustain as my other guitars, and it resulted in a higher noise floor. Part of that is the pickups, the Bigsby, etc. All I know is when I changed the pickups out and got a Tru-Arc brass bridge on it, it was like a whole new instrument. Now it rings a good deal longer, which means I don't need as much compression, which means less noise.
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