Because he was. Over 46 sworn testimonies and depositions of Tumblety in the last 20 years of his life were in agreement that he spent his evenings in the slums of every city he went to dressed down life a homeless person walking in the darkest parts of the street. At no time did ANY eyewitnesses say he walked the evenings showing off a gigantic mustache. All stated that he waxed it pitch black and it was not gigantic.
This video was the best documentary on Dr. Tumblety that I have seen. I am glad that you pointed out that Tumblety died here my hometown of Saint Louis. Here is another historical tid-bit about Tumblety. The funeral home where he was embalmed and prepared for burial was located on Saint Louis' Grand Avenue; across the street from old Sportsman's Park. This was our ballpark; prior to Busch Stadium.
One thing I’m convinced of is the ripper had masterful knowledge of the Whitechapel area. I don’t think it was an American who had only had brief experience of it. He’s worth looking into though.
No one would’ve had a more thorough knowledge of the Whitechapel area as well as being able to move about completely unsuspected than a homicidal prostitute. Fights over customers and preferred areas were common among the prostitutes in that time.
Examine his movements. But also look at someone who knew the area like the back of his hand. Had a place nearby, where he could vanish for some sleep after wandering around at 4am, to be in bed by 5am.
I’ve been living in London for six years and it’s not an easy city to navigate. Some person on holiday wasn’t going to know the area like someone who grew up there. Jack was a local.
Thanks for this- I really enjoy Michael Hawley's book The Ripper's Haunts. My own suspect is Lechmere, but Tumblety is a fascinating character outside of the JtR stuff. He's one of the most colorful and eccentric haracters of the 19th century. I'd love to see a movie or Netflix show made about his life.
I'm also more suspect of Lechmere. Tumblety stands out too much. His height, accent and mustache would have been picked up by witnesses. Add the constant police attention and lack of oppurtunity and he seems even less likely.
There is so much rubbish on RU-vid it is wonderful to come across a detailed, balanced and well researched item such as this. Submitted as a thesis this would get you a first.
This is the best documentary on Tumblety I have heard. Will be listening to more. So much information that I haven't heard and loved the whole tone of it. I used to think it was Tumblety but as more questions came up I changed my mind. I think it would be a local man and if any I suspect lechmere.
Tumblety has always been my favorite contender for Jack the Ripper - if only because of his rabid hatred of women! I heard he kept a large cupboard in the US, full of medical jars containing woman's wombs and sexual organs saying "This is where women belong"! Horrid character!
Tumblety was an extremely tall and excentric man, with a very remarkable appearence. He would have most certainly been the center of attention. I think most of what is said about him seems quite is disputed. My theory is that the killer might have not been a mentally sick lunatic or even someone with hatred of women or prostitutes. What if it was a psycopath with an extreme curiosity for the female anatomy that took advantage of underpriviledged and marginalized women, that went undiscovered because he might have been a butcher and wouldn't really be suspicious with his clothes.
I doubt he was the ripper. JTR was described by witnesses as being between 5'5 5'7 in height and 30-36 years of age. Tumblety was 5'10 and was 55 by the time JTR started his killings.
Of course that could be the case. The police, the people and not to mention the newspapers were all seeking for a monster that would stand out in a crowd. What we know today is that serial killers usually don’t. Especially successful serial killers. They are more likely to be quite ordinary people and more often unconspicuous than the obvious psychopathic monsters people want them to be. One thing that really speaks for that the Ripper was a local, quite anonymous, resident rather than the Hollywood caricature with the top hat, cape and a doctor’s bag, is the Whitechapel murderers evident local knowledge. He knew the streets, the alleys, the backyards, the passage ways and the shortcuts. He knew every nook and cranny of Whitechapel. There’s very little doubt in my mind he was born and raised there. And he may very well have been someone who never appeared in any of the police reports and never was mentioned at any of the inquests.
@@patavinity1262 don't know about extremely high as I mean the police likely had some indications to go by like they went threw alot of people calling door by door etc lol
I have now fully watched the video. I would like to praise you for your contributions and the amount of effort to gather such an incredible amount of information about the life of Francis Tumblety. He is an incredibly interesting personality for how excentric and peculiar he was. But I can´t help but think that, just like most of the famous suspects, he was just the target of social steryotipes from back then, and his name as a suspect is overwhelmingly attached to the social and collective view over who the criminal might have been, which would vary from jewish, immigrant, royal family members and others, most of which mostly based on people´s own personal discomforts back then. The killer was most likely an unobtrusive, unremarkable working class man, who was a butcher or at least had some peculiar interest in the act of dissecting bodies. My unpopular opinion is that he might not have been a mysoginist or a woman hater. He was rather someone who had an incredible attachment for the female anatomy for some reason and would have prostitutes as his target for being vulnerable and a marginalized social group, so he wouldn´t have been caught. A local who knew the area extremely well and was either on his way to work or going back from work, therefore he had reasons to be on those areas without being suspicious. He was probably not considered a suspect back then, and the contractions about whether he had great anatomical knowledge or not was probably because he was enhancing his ´´techniques´´, which he would learn from each murder. Though an average man, probably relatively smart by how much he would learn from each murder, which might have been the most reseonable explanation for the variety and discrepancy on statements on regard to his skills. Because he was a psychopath, he wouldn´t really mind doing that over and over again. The carman Charles Lechmere is someone that is extremely suspicious to me, which I consider to be the prime suspect. I have other theories based on different interpretations of the killer by reading through the killings and making assumptions, and also giving credit to Anderson and Swanson´s claims, but the most coeherent for me is the one I mention above. Anyway, I absolutely respect your research and, even though I disagree with the view over Tumblety, I did enjoy the whole way through the video, which was remarkably well elaborated. Love your channel.
Have you read Chister Holmgren’s “Cutting Point”? It is well worth the read and it gives possible “inspirations” for Lechmere in his youth. Excellent book.
With all duo respect, Tumblety is amongst the most outlandish and unreseonable suspects out there. Tumblety, Maybrick, William Gull, Sickert .... I think the very best suspects are really lowkey average working class dudes with some somber past that is really not superficial enough for eyes to catch. Charles Allen Lechmere is the best imo. William Grant Grainger could be. Robert Mann. Regardless, I genuinely enjoy the channel. Great content every time. Gotta confess I have to watch this one. But even If my read is wrong and the killer happens to be an insane dude, perhaps Jacob Levy David Cohen/Nathan Kaminski and even James Kelly
@@JackTheRipperTours I wanna watch it carefully to judge on the video as well. Sorry If I was rude. It's mostly about the suspect himself. Your content is incredibly good.
Absolutely agree that none of these outlandish suspects are really viable, although these videos are still brilliant and well researched gold mines of info.
Great info thank you. Although I knew this guys name from watching documentaries, I never knew that he was publicized as a suspect publicly in the US and I also never knew he even did an interview saying I’m not JTR.
@@JackTheRipperTours great video, I always favoured Tumbelty as a suspect up until I did research on an unrelated topic. I have since been of the opinion these brutal murders MAY have been perpetrated by a gang known as the monkey parade gang, who were known to be brutal and pretty much ran the streets of Whitechapel at night. They had control over some prostitution and I think these horrific killings were warnings. In fact more than a few of (the ladies of the night) claimed to know who the killer was but stayed silent out of fear, in fact Eddowes came back from a hop picking holiday to say she was going to “claim the reward money for Jack the Ripper” maybe this got back to the gang? And there is also some evidence the gang had connections with the local tenant housing some of these ladies would stay in. I have a lot more that points on the possibility it could have been some of the members of this gang (something many bobbies on the beat thought at the time to). But I don’t want to just real off a massively huge comment. But I would be interested in somebody like yourself doing research on this possibility as you are very good at research and unlike many people in this field seem to keep an open mind.
Fantastic video, the amount of research you do is mind blowing ,I learn alot today watching the video,,i guess the great thing about ,Jack the ripper ,,is we will never know who he was,,,,,
Thanks to Rich and Mr. Hawley. Very interesting video! I wonder, could Tumblety have been The Batty St lodger? Also, his handwriting bears a resemblance to that of the author of the “From Hell” letter. I’m not suggesting he wrote it, just that it’s an interesting coincidence.
Hi Dave. We did look at him being the Batty Street Lodger, and personally I think there is a chance he was. In the end I didn't but the Batty Street lodger in this one as I am hoping to do it as a stand alone video.
The handwriting is certainly similar. It's unfortunate that some people think handwriting can also be used to determine character traits and this IMO has devalued it's use as a scientific tool. Just for the record I think he wrote it.
Anyone know if there are any records of where he went after leaving London and if so, whether any similar murders occurred anywhere he went? I always wondered about the murders just suddenly stopping. Serial killers don’t just stop unless they’re stopped so either the ripper died, got locked up for something else significant enough to result in significant jail time (unlikely, we’d probably be aware of it) or....he left the area...one of the biggest factors in favour of tumblety being Jack the Ripper.
It was stated that the ‘doctor’ always traveled with an assistant. Who was the assistant, or assistants, who accompanied him to London during the Whitechapel events? If the good doctor was in gaol during one of the murders, it seems to be a strategy to exonerate him of any involvement. Too many circumstantial ‘coincidences’ for my liking. For various stated reasons I’d put my money on the ‘good doctor’ here. Thanks for listening.
If you did read somewhere that Tumblety always traveled with an assistant, then don't read it any further. This is a mistake. I have sworn testimony of one of his young men who stated that Tumblety NEVER walked with a person at night. Also, he was not in Gaol prison, ever. He was in Holloway prison between November 14 and November 16, but that is it.
The DNA evidence is from a shawl that may not have even been owned by the supposed victim. Also, the type of DNA test done is one that can only exclude a particular suspect, it can't identify one.
IF Tumblety was involved I don't Believe he committed the murders himself - the younger Man said to travel with Francis could have been perfect for job .
What's lacking is any connection to Whitechapel. Maybe there was, but it appears lost in time. If any clear connection could be made, of him staying there, or going there, for any relevant period, he would go to the top of my list. He ticks so many positive boxes. If the police arrested him at the time, they would have known about any connection to Whitechapel. But I've seen nothing linking him to the area.
I think JTR was hh holmes. Heres why. 1 he was a doctor. Knew anatomy and was very skilled with cadavers. 2 ship transportation is easy travel in those days. A shop's log shown a h holmes. On the boarding list. 3 all he cared about was money. But I don't blame him. That's all Anyone cares about. There is a market in Organ harvesting even to this day. My theory is, he wanted to try it in London, when he found out being on the streets could get him caught. He decided to go back to chicago build his castle. What he did in his basement with his victims. He'd have more time with them like with mary jane Kelly.
I have some problems with this one. If the letters were from JTR sent to the police and Tumblety was an American, I really do not see him calling the chief as Governor and saying "you won't fix me yet". Even as a fake doctor, he would have known that blood clots in a short time, so putting it in a bottle to write a letter with, highly unlikely. Those words were clearly written by someone from England, because we never used the term Boss for anyone else except a boss. Since he thrived on the attention of being American, he would have spoken like an American. And even if his family were Irish, he should have maintained something of Irish accent. But merely living in London as a foreigner does not mean they suddenly pick up the slang and write it.
If you were the murderer, you wouldn't be proclaiming yourself wherever you went with portraits of yourself and your profession etc so I dont think it was him.
He's way too tall and his mustache was very unique...Witnesses all report JTR suspects were around 5 ft.8 or so...Tumblety was 6 ft. 3 from all accounts and had a very signature long handle bar moustache....He would have stood out....He's certainly eccentric and a quack but he wasn't Jack The Ripper...
so very interesting and brilliantly researched. since his mustache was fake, could it be he was female, but identified (today’s term) as male? there are women with a larger than normal female part. and today, there are “men” (because they are taking testosterone) who have not had the operation yet, who are “gay”. i don’t think he was the Ripper though, by the evidence. Liking men, and not being a real doctor, i doubt he would have known female anatomy and could not have so skillfully removed a uterus. and why would want to be in such close contact with a woman anyway? sounds like that would abhorrent to him. certainly an interesting character.
Tumblety was the victim of people who believed he must have been a murderer because he was gay. I hope we as a society have advanced since the Victorian Era.
Why would a seemingly upwardly mobile man commit all of the 'Ripper murders' in a small area of East London. He could have committed these same atrocities anywhere he chose.
I can only follow the facts. At no time was he an upwardly mobil man. 900 pages of sworn testimonies and depositions (46 in total) are clear. He was antisocial and avoided friendship. The only reason why he wrote that he was rubbing elbows with the elite was to create the illusion that he was old money. This was a business decision that earned him lots of money. By the 1880s, he avoided everyone with the exception of young men and attorneys (was always suing someone). Also, in every city he went to, his evening activity was to walk the slums dress as a homeless person. By the way, who says he did not commit atrocities elsewhere?
It’s always a pleasure to take part of your immense knowledge about the case Mr. Jones, but this was extraordinarily interesting. It was also wonderful to hear Mr. Harley’s expertise regarding this particular suspect. I learned quite a few new things tonight. I often read claims that The Ripper was a sadistic killer, but was he though? The Ripper, to my knowledge, never tortured his victims, but rather killed them quite swiftly and only desecrated the bodies post mortem. Sadism is defined as the infliction of suffering for sexual gratification. A sadist will inflict pain on someone in order to see a terrified victim’s reaction. Tormenting a victim is a way for sadists to bolster their egos and self worth. Having complete control over a helpless person makes them God-like in their own twisted worlds. But did the Ripper really do any of that? He seemed to have done his deeds very quickly, mainly in the dark, and at least with no apparent sexual gratification. The only exception possibly being the Mary Kelly murder, of which we know far to little about to say anything for certain. George Bagster Phillips believed that Kelly had been killed by a slash to the throat and the mutilations were performed afterward. Is that the actions by a sadistic killer? He had her indoors, by himself, and Phillips suggested that the extensive mutilations would have taken two hours to perform. Yet he didn’t keep her alive, though he could have. From my point of view all this suggests that he had an ulterior motive rather than sadism.
He couldve achieved sexual satisfaction just by the mutilations. Well, im saying i believe that possible. This person probably didnt need actual intercourse to feel sexual gratification. The sadism part is so interesting. With Mary Kelly, it looks incredibly primitive. Like a lion kills its prey. It almost seems as though the killer has these animal instincts mixed with the complexities of human desire to kill. It really is very strange.
This is a quality presentation. I've always seen Tumblety as one of three main suspects. Why on earth are we not able to access the Scotland Yard arrest brief? Well done.
I know a lot of Ripperologists totally dismiss the Lechmere/Cross theory, but one thing i have never seen is a video by guys like you explaining - just why you are so sure it could not have been him. It would still make for a fascinating episode and to explain why he called himself Cross while signing official documents in the name Lechmere. His wife and kids were Lechmere exclusively, and i completely don't buy it that he was only trying to protect them. Minutes ahead of Robert Paul and more than enough time to do the deed. Tarpaulin my arse - no offense, i just would love this mystery solved, rather than dragged on indefinitely. I am in no way biased towards any particular suspect and i have nothing to gain other than getting to the bottom of it all. At least give your viewers some facts about him and tell me why ripper enthusiasts hit the roof when he is mentioned.
@@JackTheRipperTours I know that, but he seems to be a suspect that never gets a mention. An episode where you guys give your valuable information even to totally dismiss him being a suspect would still be interesting. When you can look at something with absolutely no bias, you can really see things more clearly and one day something might crop up that takes him out of my firing line and then i will move on! Like your videos and they are always well produced and fascinating.
He is very much on my list of suspects to do. I am hoping to feature one of those who propose him as a suspect as I like the videos to present a for and against case.
He's not the killer....but he was Aiding the killer ...probably hired dude to do his dirty work to collect fresh body parts for his weird obsession.... also think he was look out and that why killer was never caught....
Very interesting indeed, I learned new details about Dr. Tumblety watching this video. One thing was not mentioned is the fact that THE FROM HELL LETTER (probably the only ripper letter thought to be written by the killer) showed signs of being written by an Irish person, Dr. Tumblety was originally Irish... but I still think Kosminski is the ripper. Dr. Tumblety was in his 40's when the murders occurred and the physical description does not match. The Ripper was described as a man in his late 20's, not 6 feet tall and no american accent, let alone the big mustache. Kosminski fits the profile not just cause of his mental disease (was guided by voices) attacked his sister with a knife, was named by 2 of the top police Chiefs at the time as the killer, Martin Fido came up with "Aaron". Also, Aaron Kosminski was "trained as a barber" according to his hospital admission records, barbers at the time were surgeons, remove teeth and did minor surgery; knew basic anatomy. Great video Mr Jones. May I recommend you prepare a video on GEORGE HUTCHINSON? he is very suspicious to me, was probably the lookout in the ripper murders. Thanks.
Tumblety was a Headliner, JTR is a headliner. Tumblety said, he did it for science, a great medical reform. He called them animals. "She brings on a crisis by stools, vomiting, sweat, urine, expectoration, ect. which for the most part ends in the restoration of healthy action. ...Here, then, the judicious, the moral, the humane physician should stop. But the ADVENTUROUS physician goes on and substitutes presumtion for knowledge.....Almost the last words that Senator Plumb uttered were to his landlady, who asked him what was the result of his consultation with his physician. He replied characteristically, "I have got to throw up the sponge." He meant that he had to stop work and he did not know that so soon he would have to stop altogether. ..It has been said that the man without the capacity of wonder resembles a dull pair of specticles behind which there are no eyes...These unjust and infamous, amazing in there frequency and absolute lack of foundation, have almost deprived me of the wonder capacity." Francis Tumblety. Further note, why did his file disappear?
Tumbelty fits the profile perfectly. The Polish guy also , i would say these 2 are the primary suspects. The murders stopped as soon as Tumbelty left for France and Kosminski being admitted to a mental institute
And never have any real idea who the killer was, who not only was a cunning criminal but a very mysterious character. Tumblety didn't like being around women and was far too old as well as tall not to mention being very wealthy to have possibly been JTR.
This was a good tutorial for those of us who aren't ripperologists or sleuths. It brought into perspective all the vague descriptions of Tumblety which have been mentioned in less specific ripper discussions. Maybe he and Lechmere shared grisly duties.
@@JackTheRipperTours hello. I have a book you might be interested in. A book from 1941. Called INQUEST. By S. Ingleby Oddie. He was a coroner. He talks about the ripper case too and a. Conan Doyle If you want I send it to you. Greetings. Robin Stevens The Netherlands
I agree Lechmere known as Cross sounds a good suspect ..maybe he left his signature on 2 of the bodies with Cross's carved into them .. we'll probably never know.
@@Stantheman848 Brexit voter? WTF? I think she knows more than most dude. You represent those who absolutely fall arse over tit to discredit the Lechmere theory for maybe another reason other than just disagreeing perhaps? Come on...spill!
@@Stantheman848 I mean even the reason for saying it was only that documentary it still does highlight that he 100% is the prime suspect for that murder and the police never even questioned him.
Another amazing video; they keep getting better and better. Tumblety is a good example of the danger of taking a collection of (sometimes unverified) facts and fashioning a argument around it. On the surface of the story of Tumblety it sounds like a sure bet. However, a lot of it seems to be of the 'weird type... so suspect' route. He was an hermaphrodite homosexual misogynist tall/short flamboyant/eccentric/everyday syphilitic who just so happened to collect uteri... hmm....
The Ripper strangled all of his victims before he started ripping them, so that would seem to imply he was NOT sadistic. All the mutilation was done after they were dead. He did not torture them. Nor is there any evidence of sexual gratification.
My research into prostitution in that era showed that they would lift up their skirt & bend over forward- especially since these were back alley deals-thus making it easy to slit their throats….
Out of all the suspects, for me this guy ticks the most boxes. He arrives in London starts killing, gets aressted flees back to America and the killings end. He was bonkers, hated women, had the surgical skill and kept female organs in jars. Witnesses said the killer was well dressed and medium to tall.
It would be fantastic if the most notorious serial killer known to us was named "Tumblety". Tumblety, Tumblety, Tumblety....sounds like a modifier in a Winnie The Pooh story.
I think the moustache still is a problem. It is indeed a very obvious feature. And his accent. People would remember him more easily. It is indeed mentioned at the end of your documentary. But a bit short. More info on that issue would be nice.
I have one case where two men attempted to follow Tumblety in the streets and he vanished. I have two account, both sworn testimony, that the acquaintances stated each night Tumblety would only walk in the darkest areas of the streets. I have other accounts where Tumblety walked around at night with his collar up and his derby hat pushed down. The New York World journalist who interview Tumblety on January 30, 1889, stated that Tumblety had a British accent.
I would not trust a witness description from 1888 from far away in the middle of the night on a dark alley too much. Tumbelty fits the profile. He shoud've never been released. They shoud've kept him until he confessed. You might be an American defending your fellow American but you're wrong
Another point against him being a solid suspect is the fact that he wasn't a qualified doctor. He was a snake oil salesman and flamboyant con-artist. He would not have had the training or skills to expertly dissect a body. It seems more likely that he was nothing more than a sex tourist in London, and had plenty to conceal and draw police attention. He was as slippery as an eel though, and used the murders and bungling London police interest to draw attention away from the crimes he did commit and his actual reason for regular trips to London. He was just unlucky to fit a few parameters of the confused profile at the time.
What a character! This is the most compehensive set of information on the subject I've seen. Presented with Sir Richard Jones' outstanding quality, it might turn into the script for a really good film.
That's because we don't talk day to day it's much more easier and common going back and forward today but there would've been daily boats going too and from there and remember this man was loaded with cash lol
It was the age of ocean liners and the wealthy as well as the lower classes traveled that way. As a matter of fact it was really the only way for families from the “Old Country” to visit relatives in the United States.
He claims he was afraid of the sight of blood - extolling the virtues of herbal remedies over surgery. He was gay and he was over six foot tall and had a flamboyant moustache. Other than the womb collector theory (debunked by the taking of the kidney), he's a very unlikely Ripper. His book is fun though. : )
@@jeffreyriley8742 Post-mortem sexual assault is how I'd classify these crimes. Were he a serial killer, I feel Tumblety would be more like Jeffrey Dahmer or Luca Magnotta - killing men.
@@lyndoncmp5751 well considering the police had evidence that we no longer have access too maybe something there would've painted a different picture lol
Tumblety sounded like a real character didn't he. How many people must have fell for his false claims of being able to heal them and becoming ill over it and like poor Mr Hanratty dying. The police must have had some concern over him if they were watching him and also for arresting him several times. Such a shame that there is not much information now. The dossier if it were to be found would make for a very interesting read wouldn't it. He obviously didn't care for women but is that enough to think he could have been Jack The Ripper. But why did he skip bail and flee the country. A strange character indeed. Definetely a narcisist. Brilliant story again Richard. Thank you for all the effort you put into these stories. Look forward to your next one. Best wishes.
Pros: I really don't know if Jack the Ripper was necessarily a Misogynist, but he definitely had a hatred of Prostitutes. So the "fallen women" claim definitely holds up. It's also pretty suspicious he had those 2 rings at the time of his death. Cons: Most serial killers hold something in common with their victims. Tumblety would've been about 58 years old at the time of Jack the Rippers crimes. Far too old to have killed women between the ages of 25 - 43. This video doesn't mention the results of the handwriting comparison. Nor does it mention anything about Ant-Semitism. (graffiti) Also, there are several Suspects that left England shortly before the Ripper's crimes had stopped. Also, Tumblety showing everyone his collection of Women's Uterus's....and nobody batted an eye? That guy was full of shit.
Considering the mind of the act towards those women has always baffled the case, it certainly could fit Tumblety with lower half of his body of female form, that for sure screw him up, and being gay in those times, the more stuff is known about him, his mind fits the crimes. Really good episode.
Tumblety has been my prime suspect for the Ripper murders for many years. The evidence is compelling. However, he is a fascinating figure in his own right apart from his possible connection to the murders, as demonstrated in this excellent documentary.
Its good this one innit! Tumblety fits that theory doesn't he that Wynne Baxter aluded to as early as the 26th September. A lot with him depends on wether Colonel Dunham was telling the truth about him or not. I'd rule him out as the main culprit meself like Littlechild appeared to do calling him a psycho sexualis. Out of all the theories out there i still think Wynne Baxters fits the best. Bit like Burke and Hare about 60 years before.
With all due respect….Hawley needs an education in psychology and criminal psychology. And sounds like perhaps basic biology, as well. That being said, much of the literature regarding gender dysphoria as a potential motivator for serial murders is wildly outdated and entrenched in 1970s concepts about criminal behavior. Aside from the fact that I don’t believe Tumbelty is even remotely a reasonable person of interest, I find much of Hawley’s concepts about conflating hermaphroditism and gender dysphoria to be bizarre at best, and his complete confusion about either being a motivating factor for serial homicide frankly absurd. As a matter of fact, I would argue with any criminal profiler from Quantico about the subject lol. Gender dysphoria is NOT what some of these offenders thar have been classified as such were or are suffering from. The VERY rare scenarios where someone with that issue does commit homicide, it is always a single event. Never serial. They almost never meet the criteria. Violence is more often a problem on the receiving end, as opposed to a deeply rooted sadistic motivator that makes them the offender.
Interesting enough for me to listen twice! I've had a browse about the internet though, and can't find anything about Francis Tumblety being 'a hermaphrodite'. And if he did have syphilis, he could hardly blame female prostitutes - possessing an incredibly tiny male member. The point about him not being unusually tall, because of his hat, was odd too. At a time when just about everyone wore hats, surely the police and witnesses would be able to judge heights? Also, his age in 1888 would have been 55, and that counts him out too. I liked Mr Hawley's enthusiasm though, and it's great to hear about a man who lived a very unusual life.
LOL I'm glad I'm not the only one that watches these over and over. He's second to none as a storyteller and researcher. at times he sounds like he was there.
In each major city, when there was a problem with syphilis amongst the female prostitutes, syphilis also spread throughout the young male prostitutes. Every young man who Tumblety maintained a sexual relationship later got married and had kids. Point - most the young male prostitutes had sex with both males and females. Tumblety clearly contracted syphilis from a male prostitute, but remember, women were the root cause of all disease. He not only blamed female prostitutes for the syphilis outbreak, he blamed female prostitutes for "decoying" young males into a life of heterosexuality. ...based up Tumblety's own words.
People with micro penis father children, therefore it follows they can get STDs. Indeed the gross indecency charges against him all point to the various sodomy laws of the time. That is normally suggestive of acts against receptive partners.
Yes,,he claimed to have been a Dr during the Civil War. The book Suspect (shown in the clip is quite gd & in depth). Also, if true, a collection of pickled wombs isn't really what most keep around the house.
I do now, I suspected lechmere but only on the basis the he was there for the first victim and didn't want to move her, but I just watched a different episode showing he was not described by anyone in connection with any of the others, and most of what's known about him is pure guess work, because he was a man his reluctance to sit this woman up and see if she was ok seemed very odd. Finding out more about the era and the behaviours maybe he was a germaphobe, I guess that would have existed then aswell, or maybe he was responsible for that woman, there could have been a different guy for each woman part of some sick club, because they all come across as very suspicious, and it wouldn't be the first kind of twisted arrangement I'm sure, or sadly the last, so many men to claim one women each, I shudder to think about it, Tumblety made me think of the fictional buffalo bill as I listened though. It's sooo frustrating, excellent work 🙂✌️.
Being in Tasmania Australia I know as much as everyone that's looked up whitechaple, I did just say though what if Jack was Jackie meaning female, but that was based on the neatness of the handwriting was more feminine, and someone mentioned other serial murderer's one being female, I thought maybe it was female, I never considered him being both 🤔.
Whatever the true nature of Tumbletys relationship with the Fenians I am pretty sure it came to an end when he was arrested. As is common for a lot of things ripper related not everybody is being entirely honest. Not then and not now. I'm pretty sure his frequent trips across the Atlantic were Fenian related but for what purpose I am not sure. Those police files if they still exist are unlikely to ever see the light of day. There's a lot to this individual but I don't think he can be seriously considered as Jack even if for a short time at least he seems to have deliberately inserted himself into the investigation. His usefulness as an asset to anyone ended then and there.
