I've been a lifelong single digit handicapper. For the last few years have been playing TM irons. First the 09 burners, then the PSIs, and finally the P790 irons. My index was steadily rising up to over 10 and I was contemplating giving up the game, primarily cause I couldn't hit irons with a crap anymore. My club pro gave me a set of these to demo. By the 10th hole I called the pro shop and told him to order me a set. My index is back down into the 5's. Golf is fun again. These things are scary.
Great video Al. I'm usually not a big loft guy, a number one the bottom is a reference for you for what club for which distance. However, every once in awhile the "that's not a X iron that's a Z iron!" Thought pops into my head, that was happening at the end and your "who cares?!" put it in perspective again. The fact is even though these are strong lofted, they have the flight and they are stopping.
**Clubhead Speed was having a real off day. Didn’t read on occasion and gave some crazy numbers. However, the important thing is the Ball speed was accurate 👍....so it’s your fault!
Rickie Fowler had 2 of these 'types' of irons in his bag during the skins game this weekend. 3 rusty Cobra wedges, Copper PW - 5 iron blades, and then another 6 & 5 in these types of monsters as his 4 & 3 iron type lofted clubs - so even the greatest golfers in the world are doing it - nevermind that Rory and DJ are both playing the Sim Hybrid this year
I was about to say those 6i numbers (except the spin) are the same as my driver LOL. Then you started hitting it even farther so now I can't say that. Thanks a lot Al! BTW, ... T2T - T300 vs. 'this baby', yeah?
I don’t think Titleist is being deceptive as they are disclosing the lofts. I agree that the number on the club is not comparable but these clubs are serving a different market and golfer. I watched a fitting for this iron for a senior golfer and it made a huge difference in distance and dispersion. Yeah, it’s not for everyone but no need to dismiss it. BTW, I think Al could hit the 5 iron close to 300 if fitted properly!
T2T ... Hi Al I have Wilson D300 Irons which were the strongest lofted irons when they came out in 2017. The loft for that Titleist T400 6 Iron you say is 23 degrees .. well that's my 5 iron!! Simply crazy!!
The PW is 38*. That's crazy. If you want to cover your gaps properly you may need to carry 5 wedges in total.(PW, 44/45*, 50-52*, 54-56*, 60*) I guess it could be feasible if you hit the 5 iron long and good enough that you can cover the gap between your 3W and 5I with just one club. Driver, 3W, 5w/4H, 5-9I, 5 wedges and a putter puts you at 14 clubs. So I guess it's feasible but you could be sacrificing alot of potential gapping problems to chase the extra distance. Could be worth it for the right player that really needs help with distance but I think unfortunately many of the people that buy these aren't necessarily that "right player" but instead people that just want to stroke their egos and "out iron" their friends when in reality they would've been better served with weaker lofts.
Would be interesting to see a comparison do a similar and "traditional" lofted iron to see what the differences in ball flights are. Eg: why would you use a traditional lofted 3 iron vs this 6 iron.
Mark Crossfield recently did that test, strong lofted game improvement vs blade, same loft, same shaft length etc. Got 2 degrees more launch with the Game Improvement vs the blade, which is a club difference.
I play Titleist 695 MB irons. My 6 iron is 32 degrees. In fact the 3 iron is only one degree stronger than the 6 iron in T400. Nowadays they might as well just stamp the loft degree on the iron instead of assigning an iron number like with wedges.
@@_BigDiesel_ www.golfchannel.com/video/2019-world-long-drive-kyle-berkshire-407-title-winner He's the reigning long drive champ man. He's not a fraud.
I'd love to see a Ch AL lenge of you hitting your normal numbers with irons and driver using either the Channel Lock swing or the Jim Venetos golf swing. That would be fun
"Strong lofts are evil, we must protect the sanctity of the game from strong lofts, harrumph, harrumph, harrumph, harrumph, harrumph." "Hey, I didn't get a harrumph out of that guy." "Give the loft nazi a harrumph." "Harrumph!" "You watch your ass."
T2T. Wow.. that’s something else. I don’t think we can fault companies for making clubs like this , there is obviously a demand for it. I’m gaming mavrik irons and loving the distance I’m getting. Golf is more fun when you are occasionally putting for birdie.. I’ve taken lessons and they help for sure but so does technology.
Gonna have to start carrying 5-6 wedges to fill in the gaps as these irons keep getting stronger! First gap wedge will start around 40*, but people will be able to say they hit their gap 140...and isn’t that what it’s all about!
People have the ego sickness. Can't be hitting their 7 iron 150-160 anymore, it has to be 185 minimum to brag to their friends even though they swing their 7 iron 78 mph and can't hit their driver more than 220 carry. They'll pull out that 5 iron every time off the tee and talk about how they smash it 235.
Josh Lynch I still play an old set of Titliest 735CM’s with more traditional lofts. I’ve lost some distance over the years, but still hit them pretty well and score ok with them. Don’t see a need to change and don’t want or need to be able to say I hit my 7 iron 185. I’d just be lying to myself if I was hitting it further than 20 years ago. Take Care
@@brianh8801 Definitely. If you need more distance then club up! I've played Wilson FG Tour V4's for a while and I would take them 10/10 times over a massive, strong lofted cavity that hits it 20 yards further a club. Glad to see that people still value playing normally lofted clubs. Take care as well.
Josh Lynch I start clubbing up automatically around the 9th hole, and it’s helped me hit more consistently to the yardages I’m targeting. It was a pro tip I picked up on the Golf Channel in regard to one of the most common mistakes amateurs make, which was us not taking enough club as the round progresses. So I’ll go up 1-2 clubs depending on how late I am in the round, and overall fatigue. By doing so, my worst mistakes are usually close to pin high just off the green, versus 30 yards short and looking at my club like it’s at fault...like I see so many do! Ha!
Alex, what does the gap look like at the end of the range? What are the lofts and carry of the PW and GW? Basically, would you need to add 6 wedges to your bag to cover off the
The cunts who buy these aren't concerned about gapping. All they care about is hitting is past their buddy Daniel when he's playing the AP2 irons. Ruining golf, honestly.
Same. And I bet neither of us can fly a 4 iron 250, haha. I'm topped out at like 210. My point, yes it's stupid loft, but it's still pretty cool to see Al crush it.
Adam Barnett yeah Al can definitely smash a ball. My 4 iron tops out at around 210m (230y) but thats not consistent. Al is smashing it that far every shot.
Suggestion for retro review but good luck finding them. I still play cleveland ta3 gun metal irons (15 year old or so). They are a forged players iron with minimal offset.....
Okay Alexis You loved the mizuno clubs last week. Manufactures playing with degree of loft six months from now titelist will have new irons coming out that will be better. So find some instruments that you like and play them. Technology is wonderful but it costs you. Peace out brother!
Not for me but I'm sure plenty of people will buy them 👍 I have seen less sole/soul in memphis (you can have that joke for free as its not very good). And I think that was so offset that the hosel and the club face were in different time zones. For me I think the backspin with that club would be somewhere between 17+33.
T2T!!!! Because you like smashing the ball and we like watching smash the ball. At this rate you should be able to hit the 3 iron about 300yds...maybe a future Ch-AL-lenge!!
T2T. Just out of curiosity, how tall are you Al? I've seen you standing next to Matt from TXG who says he's average size and you look like an NFL linebacker compared to him ;)
I feel you. They dropped the hotel-stay requirement and fees for NCGA members to help kick-start the play. Still not cheap, but I doubt there will be a lower price in my lifetime.