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@InDeepGeek
@InDeepGeek 4 месяца назад
This is a revised and updated version of a video first published in March 2022.
@AroAceGamer
@AroAceGamer 4 месяца назад
Knew I had a sense of deja vu...
@tomspring20
@tomspring20 4 месяца назад
Wow. Perfect timing. I just watched all your other "Perspective" videos. And now i looked for the Sauron one and see this new video. Awesome
@sockdivine6144
@sockdivine6144 4 месяца назад
Do you think you could upload the original as well? for comparison purposes
@T.GLongstaff
@T.GLongstaff 4 месяца назад
Good work outta you either you. Keep it up bud
@dabaron7015
@dabaron7015 4 месяца назад
So I just watched the old version and a few others this weekend and I was genuinely confused seeing this uploaded 23 minutes ago. I like these perspective videos, they make you change perspective for a bit and getting in the head of characters like sauron and gollum make you rethink villainy. If your villain's actions fall apart when viewed from their angle, you wrote them wrong.
@RyPolecat
@RyPolecat 4 месяца назад
I want my favorite comment from the original video to persist, it was something like "I thought LotR from Sauron's perspective would just be hours and hours of an angry lighthouse staring at a blank horizon, but this is much more interesting!"
@PJMM
@PJMM 4 месяца назад
Angry lighthouse actually made it into my standard description for talking about Sauron - so I absolutely agree, haha ☺️ Thanks for preserving that comment and thank you to whomever coined that term, of course :D
@ezra3776
@ezra3776 4 месяца назад
Get over yourself, nobba.
@ryvyr
@ryvyr 4 месяца назад
"Angry lighthouse" is such excellent distilled sarcasm yet works so well, cheers for that :>
@MisterLambda
@MisterLambda 4 месяца назад
I thought I had seen a few of these videos before, does anyone know why they are being reuploaded? Or are these remakes?
@Crymetyme006
@Crymetyme006 4 месяца назад
@@MisterLambdaThese are basically remakes, Robert has said he’s wanted to update some videos with any new thoughts or theories as well as upgrading the audio, visuals, and editing
@oneeyedking3
@oneeyedking3 2 месяца назад
If only Sauron had the foresight to put a door on Mt Doom
@darktooth4576
@darktooth4576 2 месяца назад
And all you need is the One Key to unlock it.
@ThyartisDanny
@ThyartisDanny 2 месяца назад
One key to lock them all.
@markparris3890
@markparris3890 2 месяца назад
And in the darkness fumble about and try all the others first
@nickcunningham6344
@nickcunningham6344 Месяц назад
Well, like the video explained, the idea that anyone would want to destroy the ring never even crossed Sauron's mind. To him, it'd be like turning down a million dollars. Why would anyone ever do that?
@Brian-----
@Brian----- Месяц назад
“DO NOT COPY” 🙃
@Bruced82
@Bruced82 4 месяца назад
Sauron: "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling hobbitses!"
@siroswaldfortitude5346
@siroswaldfortitude5346 4 месяца назад
😂
@bennett420316
@bennett420316 4 месяца назад
Does Sauron talk like Smiegal?
@andrewthomas891
@andrewthomas891 4 месяца назад
brilliant
@joegardner851
@joegardner851 4 месяца назад
And those dumb eagles
@jamesgravil9162
@jamesgravil9162 4 месяца назад
Night King: "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling Targaryens!"
@thegreenmercenary
@thegreenmercenary 4 месяца назад
If LotR had been told from Sauron's perspective, the ending would be one of the greatest twists ever.
@robertoprimordial2633
@robertoprimordial2633 3 месяца назад
Concordo plenamente
@Zalied
@Zalied 24 дня назад
people would be so mad at it too, as a writer it would be a super fine line too obvious that the ring was somewhere else and its just waiting for it to happen, not obvious enough and its just an ass pull ending
@chablaugbzan8853
@chablaugbzan8853 7 дней назад
​@@robertoprimordial2633Valeu roberto primordial👍👍
@Toxodos
@Toxodos 3 дня назад
@@Zalied people would already be bored out of their mind at this point, just him droning on about armies and victories... would probably read like ww2 nazi propganda
@jack11643
@jack11643 2 дня назад
As opposed to the propaganda we are told re WW2. Watch Europa the last battle.
@jackdavenport3151
@jackdavenport3151 4 месяца назад
Reckon Sauron’s faith that his enemies wouldn’t destroy the Ring lies in observation, not just power-driven ego. When Isildur cut off the ring from Sauron’s hand, the Last Alliance had the chance there and then to destroy it. The fact that they didn’t - on the slopes of Mt Doom no less - probably reassured Sauron (& led him to think destiny was on his side).
@SpottedHares
@SpottedHares 4 месяца назад
Let’s not forget that though destroying the ring is the goal the actual plan was to take the ring to the crack of doom(where they knew it could theoretically be destroyed) and just hope something happens and it all works out for them. No one actually floated the idea of destroying the ring it’s power was that great.
@pharaohsmagician8329
@pharaohsmagician8329 4 месяца назад
Yep, maybe the God of that universe really did make that little spot on the ground infront of the plumment a little more slippery ​@@SpottedHares
@kekero540
@kekero540 4 месяца назад
Don’t forget Isildur only knew the ring was powerful. He didn’t know of how corrupting it was. For all he knew it was just a super powerful object the Ring had only ever been in Sauron’s possession at that point.
@EricMustardman
@EricMustardman 3 месяца назад
@@kekero540 But Isildur must have known what all mortals know: Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@robnoel9306
@robnoel9306 3 месяца назад
Well, in the end he was correct, they wouldn't destroy it.
@rengsn4655
@rengsn4655 4 месяца назад
"it wasn't just sauron who fell; it was his entire worldview" that captures the depth of this story and why it has a lasting impact across generations
@lsu1992
@lsu1992 3 месяца назад
Was Sauron wrong? If Frodo succumbed to the ring at the end, greed won...but no! Gollum intervenes! ...out of GREED. Which is what led to the one ring's destruction. If he was wrong about anything, he underestimated the destructive power of greed, and he basically torpedoed himself.
@crusader2112
@crusader2112 2 месяца назад
@@lsu1992 In the book Gollum gets the ring yes and celebrates and he slips but in the lore it stated that Eru Iluvatar intervened and pushed Gollum. So God won.
@PelinalWhitestrake36
@PelinalWhitestrake36 2 месяца назад
@@crusader2112 TFW when god himself is like "Oh no you don't!"
@joe9611
@joe9611 2 месяца назад
Beaten by the power of friendship
@lsu1992
@lsu1992 2 месяца назад
@crusader2112 Understood...surprised Tolkien went straight "deus ex" like that.
@lmr4403
@lmr4403 4 месяца назад
Imagine Sauron shouting to the Nazgûl "Fly, you fools!" when Sauron senses Frodo putting on the ring in Mount Doom.
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 4 месяца назад
"What the fk are you looking at?!? MOVE GODDAMMIT, MOVE!" for some reason Sauron sounded like Samuel Jackson when I wrote that.
@brandon101996
@brandon101996 4 месяца назад
@@scottmccrea1873i laughed too hard lol
@spinlok3943
@spinlok3943 4 месяца назад
More like “FLY MY PRETTYS! FLY! FLY! AHAHAHAHA!”
@stevenbrooks5429
@stevenbrooks5429 4 месяца назад
"Pretty fly for a dead guy" by the offspring
@LordRambo
@LordRambo 3 месяца назад
Its like poetry, it rhymes!
@daniell1483
@daniell1483 4 месяца назад
I can't help but imagine Sauron at the very end when he knows the One Ring is in Mt. Doom. His panic and confusion at seeing his ring moments away from destruction had to have been sweet to behold.
@lukeroberson2115
@lukeroberson2115 3 месяца назад
Yep. The book describes his immediate rage at sensing the Ring in Mt. Doom, and then subsequent fear as he realized what was going on.
@jamieplatt1
@jamieplatt1 3 месяца назад
"And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dûr was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash, and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung."
@lsu1992
@lsu1992 2 месяца назад
The animators did a Hell of a job showing SHEER PANIC in the eye as it fell. You can almost see the "Wait wait no no no!"
@procrastinator9
@procrastinator9 Месяц назад
The "holy effing shit!" moment of Sauron is delicious in the book. This video does a good job of p.o.v. of the baddie and the last moment recognition of the folly of his investment in the pursuit of powah.
@Nomihc
@Nomihc 4 месяца назад
One of my absolute favorite parts of the book is when Frodo puts on the ring in Mount Doom. Tolkien gives us a glimpse of Sauron’s perspective: “And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dur was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash; and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung.”
@tvctaswegia497
@tvctaswegia497 3 месяца назад
Thanks, I could remember the summary but not the exact text. It's a bit long but this would have been great to include in the video at the end.
@connorscanlan2167
@connorscanlan2167 3 месяца назад
I'm really surprised Sauron realized what was happening so quickly. I'd have figured he'd think, "Huh, that's funny. If it goes into the fire, it could be destroyed... I wonder what they're doing with the Ring there of all places... ... ... OH SH--"
@jovetj
@jovetj 2 месяца назад
Pretty awesome writing, really. I can really appreciate the greatness of this story.
@ApocGenesis
@ApocGenesis 20 дней назад
"...wait a second...I'm getting a signal...the Ring is in...SHIIIIITTT!!! SHITSHITSHITSHIT NO YOU FUCKING DON'T OHSHITOHSHITSHITSHIT!!!!!!!!!!"
@adamthejester9718
@adamthejester9718 3 месяца назад
This video is a perfect response to "Why didn't the fellowship just take the eagles to Mordor"; because of the necessary secrecy of the quest.
@lorentzt.5750
@lorentzt.5750 4 месяца назад
"if youre new to the channel, welcome" def a pleasantly subtle change & i love the wholesomeness.
@KulDeeSak
@KulDeeSak 4 месяца назад
well i don't.
@Gongall
@Gongall 4 месяца назад
@@KulDeeSak who asked
@ShortArmOfGod
@ShortArmOfGod 4 месяца назад
@Gongall No one. Same people who asked you.
@lucy.jba5
@lucy.jba5 3 месяца назад
@@KulDeeSakLMAO
@danrobidoux
@danrobidoux 3 месяца назад
Honestly the video was good enough that I would have subbed regardless, but I did very much appreciate not being badgered to do it.
@TrueYellowDart
@TrueYellowDart 4 месяца назад
Robert, one of your chief strengths as a writer/narrator is you have really strong closing lines to your videos. A strong conclusion that sums up the point often in a wonderfully worded way. Well done.
@YoUtUbEhAnDlEsArEgReAt
@YoUtUbEhAnDlEsArEgReAt 3 месяца назад
I wish I had that ability. It’s like…
@katemangos1705
@katemangos1705 2 месяца назад
Yeah, what he said.
@Mallarkey
@Mallarkey 3 месяца назад
Always thought the films didnt make enough of how Sauron was "helped" to think that Aragorn had The Ring. I know he uses the Palantir to show the Heir of Elendil is found, and the marching on the Black Gate is to keep the Enemy's eye fixed on him and blind to all else, but I had to explain to my kids when they watched it a lot of what Robert says about Sauron never imagining anything other than a powerful lord taking and using the Ring, and that was how he was blindsided.
@mboettcher349
@mboettcher349 4 месяца назад
I always assumed it was Caradhras itself since The Misty Mountains were originally raised up by Morgoth to hamper the first journey of the elves. I assumed that the evil he poured into the world would be especially strong in certain places, this mountain range being one. Considering how many bad things happen in the Misty Mountains, it still makes sense to me.
@PowerMadLabRat
@PowerMadLabRat 4 месяца назад
It was kind of. Saruman and Gandalf both call out to Caradhras, in Sindarin/Quenya
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 4 месяца назад
My interpretation/head canon is that the One Ring itself stirred up Caradhras, prompting it to pay attention and express its ire against the puny creatures daring to attempt a crossing.
@yomamma.ismydaddy216
@yomamma.ismydaddy216 4 месяца назад
I like that idea, im and if that’s true it would make sense that those mountains would also be more willing to “collaborate” with Sauron and help aid in his desires
@istari0
@istari0 4 месяца назад
It could be both. Sauron knew of Morgoth's works in the past and would use them to his benefit if he could so he could have reached out and, so-to-speak, egged Caradhras on.
@mboettcher349
@mboettcher349 4 месяца назад
What a delightful thread. Every idea reasonable, interesting, and polite. First time commenting on this channel. Not used to this level of civility.
@apstrike
@apstrike 4 месяца назад
Speaking as a member of a large bureaucratic organization, I find it really remarkable that whoever was running security at the Black Gate kept Gollum for further questioning. 'Oh yeah, mate, you had the boss's ring...?'
@Mallarkey
@Mallarkey 3 месяца назад
"...sure you did pal. And my warg swallowed a Silmaril. Move along, nut-job."
@DefinitivNichtSascha
@DefinitivNichtSascha 2 месяца назад
Gollum had know about Shelob and where she resided, so I reckon he didn't go through the Black Gate but took the pass of Cirith Ungol.
@gabe2349
@gabe2349 2 месяца назад
True, but he also looked a hell of a lot like a dude who’d been carrying the ring for a few hundred years
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 23 дня назад
Shelob is not party to Sauron. They didn't really interact beyond Sauron knowing she was there and tolerating her since her presence benefited him. It's even stated in the book I think that Shelob doesn't give a fuck about the ring, she just wants to eat.
@RtB68
@RtB68 4 месяца назад
I vividly recall reading LoTR and getting to that climactic paragraph "...And far away, as Frodo put on the ring and claimed it for his own the power in Barad Our was shaken to it's very crown...thick black smoke rose to choke him...he knew the peril by which his fate now hung" (yes, going from memory here, but it's been 40 years!). I simply loved the idea that his hubris had lead him to that moment of pure panic and fear...Sauron positively shat himself.
@rhel373
@rhel373 3 месяца назад
To be fair to him... he'd basically won. Like, it's not hubris if you're right lol. And he had absolutely zero reason to believe the ring would be destroyed before that moment.
@RtB68
@RtB68 3 месяца назад
@@rhel373 …yeah, maybe. But I just loved that existential terror he felt. He knew fear before the end.
@connorscanlan2167
@connorscanlan2167 3 месяца назад
"Sauron positively shat himself." Ah, Professor Tolkien, you wordsmith.
@RtB68
@RtB68 3 месяца назад
@@connorscanlan2167 to be fair, I did consider “shitted” but I heard the Prof whispering to me “shaaaat”
@connorscanlan2167
@connorscanlan2167 3 месяца назад
@@RtB68 It was "absolutely" that was really carrying that sentence. Le mot juste.
@BGSenTineL
@BGSenTineL 4 месяца назад
When I see In Deep Geek or Nerd Of The Rings upload a big smile appears on my face. My 2 favorite channels !
@jonashammond498
@jonashammond498 4 месяца назад
Check out Darth Gandalf, if you like those two, I think you’ll like him too
@BGSenTineL
@BGSenTineL 4 месяца назад
@@jonashammond498 Just checked it out and it is a great channel. Immediately subbed ! Thank you
@BGSenTineL
@BGSenTineL 4 месяца назад
@@jonashammond498 I checked the channel and it is great. Immediately subbed. Thank you for your recommendation.
@brunofreitas9314
@brunofreitas9314 4 месяца назад
Pitty that Nerd sold is soul to the dark forces, and was seduced by the gifts of the dark lord Jeff B.
@paulprovenzano3755
@paulprovenzano3755 4 месяца назад
Check out ‘Men Of The West.”
@curtcoeurdelion
@curtcoeurdelion 4 месяца назад
Because of him having just one eye, Sauron‘s perspective was by design always not three-dimensional.
@kod8933
@kod8933 4 месяца назад
I think more realistically it's because two eyeballs would be very silly looking. 👀 🏯
@VinnyUnion
@VinnyUnion 4 месяца назад
​@@kod8933but eight would look suddenly menacingly aesthetical.
@spacemissing
@spacemissing 4 месяца назад
Uhhh... Who, exactly, declared Sauron had only one eye? Though Tolkien used the singular term, I doubt he meant it literally. We with two sometimes say things like "I have my eye on you".
@goncalocorreia8401
@goncalocorreia8401 4 месяца назад
biblically accurate Sauron @@VinnyUnion
@patriarch7237
@patriarch7237 4 месяца назад
@@spacemissing He doesn't. Only in the films and the David Day bestiaries is Sauron a giant floating eye. Tolkein's intent was that he is a large humanoid sitting in Barad-Dur. The flaming eye is how Frodo perceives Sauron's attention and focus on the ring.
@annecarter5181
@annecarter5181 4 месяца назад
So many details are highlighted. No matter how many times I’ve read these books, the story comes alive when Robert pulls it all together!!
@sebastianschulz1950
@sebastianschulz1950 4 месяца назад
I really love the vivid way you talk about this. It could have just been a dry description but you add so much flavor and emotion - it is glorious.
@MiljaHahto
@MiljaHahto 4 месяца назад
And yet not overly vivid, which would be exhausting.
@antoinemonks4187
@antoinemonks4187 3 месяца назад
This is exactly how I interpreted the books when I read them, bravo for your summation! Sauron is a brilliantly written character and a testament to how great of a writer Tolkien was that he could convey so much about his main antagonist without ever bringing him into the room.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 4 месяца назад
I've often wondered if Sauron didn't think that the Hobbit carrying the ring had been bumped off in Rivendell so that a superior master could take its place. Seeing the hobbit in Orthanc (as he believed) has a slightly different message if this is the case. Either this means that Saruman has double crossed again and has managed to get himself elected as the one who will wield the ring, which is not good news, or Sauron is just after the hobbits for news of what has become of the Ring. But he never acts as though he thinks Saruman has actually got the ring.
@Jorlem25
@Jorlem25 4 месяца назад
The hobbit who was originally carrying the Ring dying in Rivendell wouldn't be too far a leap for Sauron to make. After all, that Ringbearer had been stabbed with a Morgul Blade, making said hobbit's survival quite unlikely.
@robertoprimordial2633
@robertoprimordial2633 3 месяца назад
Compreendo sua visão. Sauron sabia que o anel estava com os Hobbits depois de Esmeagol. Teve ele tanta certeza de que um homem ou mago o teria faz dele um tolo. ​@@Jorlem25
@undercoverduck
@undercoverduck 4 месяца назад
Can I just say that I really love the green banner in the top right corner of the thumbnails? It's instantly recognizeable in long playlists and gives the thumbnails a nice visual consistency
@Havok259
@Havok259 Месяц назад
Agreed.
@EpicureMammon
@EpicureMammon Месяц назад
What I really like about your channel and these LotR videos is that you point out differences between the books and Jackson's films without suggesting any superiority among them or that someone who has only seen the movies is somehow "less than." It usually helps make sense of things in the movies that seem inconsistent or inexplicable by filling in the holes with the books. I like how they're presented as a sort of team. Anyway, I just really like your essays!
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 4 месяца назад
Excellent video. I imagine Sauron in Barad-dúr watching the Army of the West matching into his jaws. He must've exulted. "At last! Victory is mine!" Since he had a body, he must've felt a shudder in his bones when Frodo put on the Ring. "Oh shiiiiiiiiiiit!"
@rhel373
@rhel373 3 месяца назад
Yeah, basically everything is going to plan, even losing at Minas Tirith is a minor setback at worst, he can just do it again. He knows it. The enemy knows it. He's won. And then it's all gone just like that.
@powguma
@powguma 10 дней назад
This video was even better than I expected. One thing I hypothesize is that Sauron near the end was actually preparing with his full focus to fight Aragorn because he expected Aragorn could finally decide to use the Ring. Aragorn and his army wouldn't march to his gate with such a small force, even driven mad by the Ring. He probably thought the ghost army is still with Aragorn too. He probably also knew he'd still win because the Ring would betray Aragorn, but he might have expected it to be a difficult fight, so persuading or corrupting Aragorn to his side with the Mouth could be worthwhile. I think this makes the realization at the Mount Doom all the more unexpected for Sauron.
@nastropc
@nastropc 4 месяца назад
When the Nazgûl arrived back in Mordor, soggy and empty handed, Sauron should have seriously reassessed his organisation’s personnel structure, not levelled-up their company rides.
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 4 месяца назад
Well, they were OK, just a bit too slow and prone to damage by flooding. He solved both of those issues.
@vineveer4358
@vineveer4358 3 месяца назад
You never want to de-fund your security team because there's a security problem.
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 месяца назад
Goes to show what great bosses Sauron and Saruman really were. When his subordinates were bested by circumstances outside their control, he saw to it that they were more adequately equipped instead of blaming them and laying half of them off. Saruman didn’t take his underling orc foreman’s laments of their industrial incapacity for increased production as a slight on his own authority or as petty complaining; instead, he found a solution to their lack of furnace fuel in the forests of Fangorn. He ordered his foreman to cut them all down, empowering his workers with the resources that they had so eagerly needed and yearned for. No wonder so many wanted to work for these guys!
@amyelnah8717
@amyelnah8717 3 месяца назад
@@jefffinkbonner9551 honestly, that fits with Sauron's ideal of trying to "improve" a world the Valar, in his mind, had abandoned. While he was a completely evil and tyrannical overlord, there REALLY is no point to destroy or harm what can still be of use to you.
@frankphillips7436
@frankphillips7436 3 месяца назад
This is why corporate CEO’s need to rely on an HR department! One being cannot properly oversee everything and everyone, regardless of having an unsleeping eye!
@anlumo1
@anlumo1 4 месяца назад
That's a pretty impressive behind-the-scenes concept for a battle plan spanning thousands of years for a language professor...
@spicekai4486
@spicekai4486 4 месяца назад
I'd say so
@thecrispymaster
@thecrispymaster 2 месяца назад
The other useful thing about Gollum for Sauron's purposes is that while he would strive and seek to capture the Ring for himself, he has never shown much interest in wielding it as a weapon in the same way as many of the human, elven or other Maiar characters might. While Gollum has used the ring, its almost always been for survival puposes. He was quite content in his relatively humble life in a cave killing fish and the odd goblin. So Gollum was someone he could trust to seek the Ring without worrying that he might try to wield it against him.
@hanneskonigwinqvist4396
@hanneskonigwinqvist4396 11 дней назад
And to add even more credibility to Saurons idea of Aragorn having the ring, nobody actually could destroy the ring. Tolkien has state this. Not even Frodo or Sam, nor Gandalf or Galadriel for that matter. So his strategy makes even more sense in the light of that. It was providence or Eru that in the end, made Smeagol fall into the pit and accidentally destroy the ring. And this was something Sauron just couldn't conceive. Awesome video man
@FogelTheVogel
@FogelTheVogel 12 дней назад
I never even considered that Sauron must have thought that Aragorn had the ring, but that makes so much sense.
@thoranderson9958
@thoranderson9958 4 месяца назад
Damn, pretty deep interpretation. Well done.
@shiddy.
@shiddy. 4 месяца назад
these 'other perspective' videos are excellent
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 4 месяца назад
After the ring gets to Rivendell, I wonder if Sauron expected that Elrond or Gandalf would take it and become an extremely powerful adversary, capable of wielding the One and the Three? Through Saruman he must have known that Gandalf was a Maia. Gandlaf +Ring = defeat Elrond + Ring = probabl defeat But he is planning for another war of Elves and Men, this time with the Ring on the other side - but he seems to be making the assumption that whoever the ring bearer was would not have the time to master it and he tries to precipitate things. Under those circumstances it would make sense to conduct an infantry War to try and make sure that at the last he would face the ring bearer and no army at all, rendering them vulnerable. I wonder if it was an existential surprise to him to find that he was up against not Elrond, nor Gandalf, but the descendant of Elendil with the same sword (and the Ring)? That's not quite as powerful as Gandalf with the ring, but it does have a subsidiary message of "the Fates are against you, boyo!"
@silfiriel
@silfiriel 9 дней назад
I don't think in any moment he is afraid of that, as this video notes, he is actually hoping for that, as long as the ring is not destroyed Sauron is alive and will eventually resurface while the ring no matter whonhas it is always working up on a way to Sauron
@chrisstrovel
@chrisstrovel 4 месяца назад
Love it when you re-issue a show. My original version is still Mint-In-Box, and will skyrocket in value. ;)
@honpolyo
@honpolyo 4 месяца назад
He might be 3'6" but that sythe charging through the corn was scarier than anything else.
@billybubba8344
@billybubba8344 4 месяца назад
This is one of your best videos, imo. And that is saying alot. The ending gave me chills. Thank you.
@henrywarmoth1792
@henrywarmoth1792 4 дня назад
This was SOOO good! I just want to thank you for making this because I've been a fan of LOTR for a long time but I've never seen someone provide this angle. I'm actually a big strategy nerd and this video really provided such an interesting viewpoint into the mental chess game the heroes were playing against Sauron. It's fascinating to see the actual strategical thoughts behind the movements Sauron made against the Fellowship and Gandalf. I never was able to see all the thoughts behind what he was doing because he's always depicted as an disembodied eye in the films.
@ts8960
@ts8960 15 часов назад
this is actually the best video on LOTR, it explains everything
@5764rich
@5764rich 4 месяца назад
Sauron just wants lots of friends and to give everyone big hugs
@Greg29
@Greg29 4 месяца назад
and rings
@5764rich
@5764rich 4 месяца назад
@@Greg29”rings of friendship”
@c.antoniojohnson7114
@c.antoniojohnson7114 4 месяца назад
Annatar Lord of Gifts,of course he really wanted to be generous.
@kenofken9458
@kenofken9458 4 месяца назад
He only ever wanted to dance the ballet, but his da called him a sissy and hit him with a piece of chain to "make a man out of him"!
@eveywrens
@eveywrens 4 месяца назад
Worth watching Sauron's Perspective again.
@indalieco4599
@indalieco4599 4 месяца назад
Love your videos mate. One listening can get a real glimpse into the love and passion you have for these fantasy worlds. I thank you for always delivering a goal with these.
@antonvarhenmaa9462
@antonvarhenmaa9462 4 месяца назад
You are too good at narrating and your Voice and info is so interesting I struggle sleeping 🤙
@Mallarkey
@Mallarkey 3 месяца назад
British, ya see.😊
@antonvarhenmaa9462
@antonvarhenmaa9462 3 месяца назад
@@Mallarkey love the brits:)
@nick0875
@nick0875 4 месяца назад
Sauron: Hacks! I call hacks! I am the great deceiver, you could not have deceived me! My plan was perfect!
@CybershamanX
@CybershamanX 4 месяца назад
I especially liked this one. Thank you for diving in. 😀☮️
@jgrey8959
@jgrey8959 День назад
To me, there is nothing more thrilling in all of fiction than the moment when all of Sauron's enemies devices were laid bare and the magnitude of his folly revealed to him. From millennia of planning, to an hour of gloating retribution and soaring pride, to utter incomprehensible despair all at once.
@Rorschach.
@Rorschach. 16 дней назад
I haven't watched the LotR since I first got the extended versions on DVD so very long ago but this really has recaptured my imagination. Thank you.
@jamieparry6420
@jamieparry6420 4 месяца назад
Some much needed Sauron apologia.
@TheAmericanPrometheus
@TheAmericanPrometheus 4 месяца назад
Sauron did nothing wrong!!1!
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 месяца назад
Great word
@jonathanyaloussa
@jonathanyaloussa 4 месяца назад
​@@TheAmericanPrometheus Is this your Tookish side talking?
@paulbigbee
@paulbigbee 4 месяца назад
You try to bring some order and industry to Peoples and this is how they repay your labor and generosity.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 месяца назад
@@paulbigbee so Sauron basically colonial /imperialistic UK?
@strisselstudios3932
@strisselstudios3932 4 месяца назад
This is my favorite of your videos. Thank you for updating it!
@dhayes5143
@dhayes5143 13 дней назад
What a great conclusion. A video essay well suited for great books... and evil times.
@LoveMusic-123
@LoveMusic-123 4 месяца назад
I really loved this video. The editing, writing and narration were all excellent. Great job! ❤️
@hivesteel
@hivesteel 4 месяца назад
Thanks for all your hard work Robert, I’ve been enjoying your channel immensely as of late. Cheers.
@zombiesatethevideostar1695
@zombiesatethevideostar1695 3 месяца назад
One of my favourite books on this idea is a two part series by Jaqualine Carey, author of the Kushiel's Legacy Series, called The Sundering. Book one is Banewrecker the second Godslayer and are a LotR style story just told from the villains perspectives.
@romay2782
@romay2782 15 дней назад
I love that moment at the end when suddenly Sauron realises the game is up. Breathtaking in the books and jaw dropping in the movies. It’s what makes ROTR the best movie ever made.
@PaulTheadra
@PaulTheadra 4 месяца назад
I teared up at the end, solid story telling
@chuckinshanks
@chuckinshanks 4 месяца назад
I love finding active channels like this!
@tahirsanli
@tahirsanli 2 месяца назад
Very insightful indeed. Many thanks for this!
@kevinelsken4275
@kevinelsken4275 4 месяца назад
Great stuff. So well presented. Thanks.
@rickythe2nd63
@rickythe2nd63 2 месяца назад
You've done a masterful job as always!
@samuel5591
@samuel5591 4 месяца назад
That was a beautifully presented, interesting analysis. Some of that artwork was amazing.
@OmNeOmega
@OmNeOmega 4 месяца назад
Well, the ring does possess people and changes their thinking. Its not like he couldn't comprehend someone planning on destroying it, he thought the ring would do its job and corrupt them. They then would want to use it.
@JayDKay2608
@JayDKay2608 9 дней назад
When he said "if you're new to this channel," I was waiting for 'don't forget to like and subscribe'. Instead he just said "welcome" and so I immediately liked and subscribed haha.
@AgonKLetsPlay
@AgonKLetsPlay 4 месяца назад
I love listening to your videos while I work
@gerardskippon3099
@gerardskippon3099 4 месяца назад
Thank you Robert, showing a new angle in this Epic which is always a good thing. Fascinating Cheers.
@johnmorris1009
@johnmorris1009 Месяц назад
It's interesting that despite the fact that good and evil are strongly defined in Tolkien's work, the powers of Evil were still ultimately corrupted powers, who had once been good. The likes of Sauron and Morgoth did not see themselves as being evil or necessarilg doing evil things. They believed they were right and acting in a reasonable way against their foes. It's a form of evil that resonates with real life evil that we see in today's world, and is far from being just a classical and unrealistic representation of "Biblical style Evil."
@Randomcorpse
@Randomcorpse 3 месяца назад
Wonderful video and commentary. Though, I thought with the mentioning of Unfinished Tales, there'd be mention of the freshly dispatched (by water) Ringwraiths arriving at the gates of Orthanc. One of my favourite scenes. Saruamn putting his voice on the gates and telling the Nine that if he had the ring they would be calling him Master. Then a wonderful moment where they, while invisible, accost Wormtongue on his way from Edoras. Questioning and terrorising him. Unfinished Tales has a few wonderful 'deleted scenes' from the books,
@linkzy2507
@linkzy2507 4 месяца назад
Watching your videos for a while.. like the new intro! Keep up the work bro!
@MVNG0
@MVNG0 Месяц назад
Masterwork of a video. Thank you for sharing!
@djny25
@djny25 22 дня назад
What a sharp and wonderful analysis. Bravo.
@madcow3k
@madcow3k 21 день назад
Well done. Thank you.
@DavidCodyPeppers.
@DavidCodyPeppers. 4 месяца назад
I truly enjoyed your essay. 🕊️
@lunzie01
@lunzie01 4 месяца назад
I love your analyses of LOTR.
@jaykaramales3087
@jaykaramales3087 4 месяца назад
As always,, Robert, your insights and analyses are very fulfilling.
@wolfen8622
@wolfen8622 4 месяца назад
Love all your content! I always wondered what would happen if Sauron would get the ring back… Keep it up! 🤍
@NowUndefined
@NowUndefined 4 месяца назад
I love these videos, thank you
@Donathon-qx8kq
@Donathon-qx8kq 4 месяца назад
You do know IDG. Your channel is incredible
@macwade2755
@macwade2755 3 месяца назад
Great video In Deep Geek!
@owen4535
@owen4535 4 месяца назад
This is an incredible video, nice one
@ThatBernie
@ThatBernie 4 месяца назад
Really interesting character study, the broader point about Sauron simply failing to understand that not everybody wants to take power for themselves is very perceptive, and definitely lines up with the cynical worldview that you typically find espoused by dictators and their lackeys around the world.
@jonathanakehurst4489
@jonathanakehurst4489 2 месяца назад
A very inspiring conclusion. 🙏🏼
@jonathangagne_tenor
@jonathangagne_tenor Месяц назад
Lovely video! Thank you.
@boat1280
@boat1280 4 месяца назад
Super interesting idea for a video actually. Love it
@darrengallagher1134
@darrengallagher1134 2 месяца назад
Great video. Thank you so much. Cheers from Australia
@JackRackam
@JackRackam Месяц назад
Mordor dark lords and maia: What did they know, did they know things? Let's find out!
@mitiere27
@mitiere27 Месяц назад
Stay weird man
@DsignMediaUK
@DsignMediaUK 25 дней назад
I really enjoyed this, thank you!
@Funzelwicht
@Funzelwicht 15 дней назад
Beautifully made!!!
@WrinkleRelease
@WrinkleRelease 4 месяца назад
I frickin love this channel!
@GamesbiteRtDL
@GamesbiteRtDL 3 месяца назад
From all the villains I know, Sauron fell the deepest, literally and figuratively
@WhoIsCalli
@WhoIsCalli 4 месяца назад
Great vid Robert, thanks for
@garycarter6773
@garycarter6773 2 месяца назад
Excellent!! Thank you!! ❤❤❤❤
@ProxxRoxx
@ProxxRoxx 4 месяца назад
Thank you for all this awesome Content! 👍
@jasonwarren9279
@jasonwarren9279 26 дней назад
Bravo! This is by far your best video.
@12classics39
@12classics39 4 месяца назад
Never stop making these videos! 🎉
@lknanml
@lknanml 4 месяца назад
I think WOW about covers it........ Nicely done!
@AW_DIY_garage
@AW_DIY_garage 2 месяца назад
This was a great video. Thank you
@ACOLBTHUMIONS
@ACOLBTHUMIONS 3 месяца назад
This video gave me so much more appreciation for lotr, thank you!
@IBVevo
@IBVevo 4 месяца назад
Great video, as always.
@Neero_90
@Neero_90 18 дней назад
the artwork used in this is amazing
@eylam9690
@eylam9690 16 дней назад
That was bloody aweeeesoooome!!!! Damn.
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