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The Lost Stations of Norwich 

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Norwich had some lost stations - shall we explore them? Please SUBSCRIBE SHARE and FOLLOW on Instagram @rediscoveringlostrailways. Might you consider supporting my channel even more? www.buymeacoffee.com/rediscov...
Particular thanks are due to the administrators and contributors to the Facebook group 'Memories of Norfolk's Old Railways and Stations' (tinyurl.com/35z35sa4) and the ever excellent Disused Stations website (www.disused-stations.org.uk).
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@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Do please subscribe, share and follow - you might consider supporting my channel even more: www.buymeacoffee.com/rediscovering
@spankflaps1365
@spankflaps1365 2 года назад
Look at all the traffic problems in Norwich and Norfolk nowadays which would be alleviated if these lines and stations had survived. And now we have a shortage of hauliers, when we had loads of dedicated goods lines and depots (goods train - 1 driver for 50-100 wagons). Dr Beeching gets all the blame, but he only wrote the report. It was successive governments (of both parties) from the 50’s - 80’s who actually did the cuts to the network. It was all built by private enterprise, lasted for 100 years, then the government ripped it all out. The listed building station at the end - it’s common for owners of such buildings to let them decay deliberately, so the building gradually collapses and then they don’t need permission to demolish (which would normally be refused).
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 2 года назад
Unfortunately those local goods depots were a great drain on finances. They had to be manned but didn't always get freight coming in or going out on the local trip services which were also expensive to operate. When BR looked at the costs of their Speedlink services they found out that about 70% of the operating costs were from the local trip workings, marshalling and remarshalling. They also worked out that if they could cut costs by 40% then only half of the services would make enough to cover their costs. In addition to that to cover costs each supplier would need to send out 10 wagon load a day over a distance of 500 miles. You might have 1 crew to shift 50 to 100 wagons, local trip workings would never be that long. Before we had Beeching there was the Unremunitive Services Committee was looking at the removal of services that didn't cover enough of their costs. From what I have read, and there's not much out there on the internet, the lines they looked at axing and didn't get to close were the same ones that Beeching wanted to take an axe to. They were also lines that the LNER, for example as we're in Norwich, was looking at as uneconomical.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for you comment and thoughts
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Fascinating information as always - thanks for your remarks!
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 2 года назад
The issue was all the war damage, both bombs and wear&tear that never got enough investment to fix in the post-war economy. The railway had worked itself into an early grave saving the nation and was just left to struggle on after that. They never got the recognition they deserved for the work they put in.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 2 года назад
@@truckerallikatuk the war damage didn't help, but the damage started in 1918 and not 1945. The all but forgotten Salter Repott of 1933 covers in some detail the disparity between the charges the railways levied for freight compared to those levied by the road haulage industry in the 1920s/1930s. The canals were the first to be killed off by the road haulage industry and then came the rural railways. In spite of all the legal restrictions on road transport they could easily undercut the railways, as they they had access to supplies of war-surplus truck and lorries, and all those men trained to drive by the army after both wars.
@andrewholloway231
@andrewholloway231 2 года назад
I enjoy this Lost Stations series. Excellent job and superbly narrated. As you say, Trowse station is too close the current Norwich Thorpe yet I hope that one day, someday, it could be spruced up and house a museum depicting the stations and lines around Norwich.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Couldn't agree more - what a fine use of that delightful old building it would be!
@murkydepths2023
@murkydepths2023 2 месяца назад
Isn't there a proposal for thousands of homes next to it? Given a walk to the nearest station is 25 minutes and a bus about 15 mins that would suggest scope for reopening. Plenty of cities haver stations closer together than that. EDIT: Yep just googled it and more than 3k homes planned and 4k jobs. That seems enough for a serious look at reopening.
@bruceperkins4601
@bruceperkins4601 2 года назад
I travelled from the City station to Melton Constable, then on to East Rudham in either 1944 or 45. Hard to recall details, but I do remember the second train pulling in at MC, then the horse and trap that collected us at ER. Thanks for the memory.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you for your memories - fascinating - they speak of another world!
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 2 года назад
Wow, the sound of slides switching took me back.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
It's a lovely noise isn't it!
@michaelward2082
@michaelward2082 8 месяцев назад
We used to take a coal train from Whitemoor to Norwich Victoria, and have to reverse the train into the coalyard there, guards brakevan leading , usually with a Tinsley based Class 37, the coal came from collieries at Ollerton, Thoresby or Mansfield, I revisited the station site in 1977 and in 2018
@epicellen7299
@epicellen7299 Год назад
My brother's and I used to stand on the whitlingham bridge and wait for the old steam trains to come through underneath. I can still smell them. Our great uncle was a train driver. His black leather hat, thick wooden black trousers, striped collarless shirt and red and white handkerchief round his neck. we'd wave to him if he was on route. It's a shame Trowse station building couldn't be reconditioned/refurbished back to a beautiful period house.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Thank you for sharing your wonderful memories
@dvdvnr
@dvdvnr 2 года назад
Great video. As a Norwich resident, I remember the reopening of Trowse station in 1986. As part of the electrification they also completely replaced the river bridge on a slightly different alignment. Controversially, the original slew bridge was double-tracked while its swing-bridge replacement was single track. There were plans around 8 years ago for replacing the single-track bridge (which keeps breaking down) with a double-track version "by 2024" - I think that date might have been a bit optimistic!
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for the info - yes I read that this single track presents a bottleneck - bizarre that the line was not doubled there!
@michaelpilling9659
@michaelpilling9659 2 года назад
Another brilliant video. Full of fun facts, historical data, old and new photographs, all of which come to gether to make a superb presentation. Should any or some of these stations have been saved? Absolutley, bearing in mind the need for moving people around without blocking up Norwich's roads.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for you comment and thoughts - very much appreciated!
@rinusvandenberg3041
@rinusvandenberg3041 2 года назад
I do like your stories on the lost railways. This video was again a fine example of them. Very sad to see how we treat our industrial heritage. Kind regards 🚂
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for your very kind remarks about my films!
@quar_tett
@quar_tett 2 года назад
What a tragedy Trowse is! Another well-narrated film - currently "binge viewing" them all and daydreaming... Thank you!
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Yes agreed! Hope the binge has left you wanting more!
@brianmicky7596
@brianmicky7596 2 года назад
Hi Very enjoyable, I left my heart in Norwich years ago(over 65years ) should not have been shut at All, All the best Brian 😃
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so - and I'm glad it stirred some good memories!
@akeho85design
@akeho85design 13 дней назад
Thanks for the great video, I've been a resident of Norwich since 87/88 - 2010 and 2022 - present day and in the last year I've learned so much about Norwich's railways! I only thought Norwich had 2 stations until I discovered Victoria, which is on the direction of the former Brazen Gate, and walking down the Lakenham Way you can see all the rail bridges in close detail from that period. Also, the station close to Whitlingham was the scene of the Thorpe Railway Disaster, which has a commemorative plaque near the sight down Girlings Lane. Also, on Marriotts Way, a short walk after the station is a bridge that saw a disaster as well! Plenty of interesting facts and a lot of other hidden stations as you continue down the Way.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 13 дней назад
Glad you enjoyed the film...I should have approached you for all the historical knowledge!
@michaelharris-gifford2414
@michaelharris-gifford2414 2 года назад
Another great video, thank you. I found the story of Trowse particularly fascinating, with it's "on-again/off-again" history. Such a pity that such a fine building can be left to slowly disintegrate.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Yes agreed. Thanks for your comment.
@RoyBT2207
@RoyBT2207 2 года назад
There is a certain irony in that, at the same time as cities like Norwich were expanding, the government thought it wise to do away with what could have been encouraged to be a way of moving all these people around. Great film as always.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for you comment and thoughts - very much appreciated!
@andrewfrancis3591
@andrewfrancis3591 2 года назад
The poor were targeted to use busses the wealthy cars. There was a shortage of staff. In hindsight it's a great tragedy. You always here Yorkshire and the west country bemoaning the loss of rail. In fact Norfolk got it worse.
@tomboychick
@tomboychick Год назад
Campaigners did successfully manage to keep the lines between Norwich - Great Yarmouth, Norwich - Lowestoft & Norwich - Cromer and/or Sheringham. The only stupid thing they did was to remove the junction outside of Cromer, so trains for Sheringham only have to first enter Cromer Station, then reverse out again onto the single track to Sheringham. The return journey to Norwich obviously being the same. It has been discussed about reinstating the junction a few years ago, so the Sheringham only service can bypass Cromer altogether, but local residents weren't keen on that suggestion. Personally, I find it rather bizarre. The number of trains won't increase, and it's a ridiculously short part of the track (it's only approx quarter of a mile). The trains already run alongside homes, so it's an odd reason to reject on grounds of sound. The infrastructure is still pretty much intact, so very little repair work would be needed. It would simple be a case of relaying the tracks, installing the signalling & restoring any pedestrian only level crossings.
@IndigoJo
@IndigoJo Год назад
The other stations in Norwich were closed well before Beeching came onto the scene, which shows that they were always unviable (quite a few of the Beeching closures were of lines that could have worked and in some cases had done before timetables were tampered with). A lot of railways were built in the 19th century railway mania that turned out not to be viable. Norwich isn't a big city like London which can support numerous terminals; it's a small city and it doesn't make sense to have three when one will suffice. The line into Victoria could have been improved by linking it to the other lines, but a whole terminal to serve small towns in Norfolk was never going to work once there were alternatives to rail.
@epicellen7299
@epicellen7299 Год назад
Government officials forget what they've said about global warming. Needing travellers/passengers to travel by public services saving the planet. Buse and train services have been rapidly cut . They will always cut their own throats. Metaphorically speaking of course. Shoot themselves in the foot. Eat humble pie. Never get it right. While they travel chauffer driven or by private plane. No different to centuries past. The rich lived in towns and cities, had coach and horses, Handsom cabs etc. The working class and poor lived miles out had to walk or if lucky ride on a cart pulled by one horse. If we don't complain when services are being cut, the government and companies will think we don't need the service. No good waiting until the horse has bolted. Sorry about the pun and sounding like an activist
@peterbustin2683
@peterbustin2683 7 месяцев назад
Ive been searching for a film about these stations, and now ive found it. Brilliant !
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 7 месяцев назад
So glad you found it!
@barrythedieselelectricstea5217
@barrythedieselelectricstea5217 2 года назад
very interesting video 👍so sad so many stations around Norwich closed 😥this what happens when there's not much passenger service i dread to think how many stations have closed in England Scotland Wales and Ireland
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you very much indeed - and agreed!
@chrismccartney8668
@chrismccartney8668 7 часов назад
As Norwich grows I bet some of these station would now be very useful.. Commuting traffic into Norwhich is a nightmare now so short sighted
@drevo50
@drevo50 2 года назад
Wonderful, thank you. The re-development of Norwich on land given up by the railways is pretty depressing. A fine historic city with brutalist buildings all over (and dull, partly empty shopping centres).
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Most kind. Yes, so many places seem to have suffered from such grim brutalism!
@IndigoJo
@IndigoJo Год назад
Shopping centres are the same countrywide nowadays.
@gordonbennet1094
@gordonbennet1094 Год назад
Correct. Whoever was responsible for knocking down the fine Bank building on Magdelan St, and replacing it with the montrous Anglia Square, Odeon, and Sovereign House, should be put on trial.
@07028
@07028 2 года назад
I always enjoy the education your films provide. Thank you.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
So pleased you enjoy them - thank you!
@tango6nf477
@tango6nf477 2 года назад
I always await your latest video which are always brilliant thank you. It always amazes me how many beautiful station buildings were either demolished or simply left to decay after the lines closed rather than becoming homes. You see examples of this all over the country and its hard to understand. I think the answer is that in the days of closure the railways were seen as old and outdated and people wanted to live in the new estate type houses with mod cons, not what they saw as dirty old railway buildings, familiarity breeds contempt?. What fine homes many have made, if only people had the foresight.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for you kind remarks, thoughts and comments - I'd love to live in a fine old station house!
@josephj9828
@josephj9828 2 года назад
Hang on babe, another Rediscovering Lost Railways video just dropped. Jokes aside, great video. I've heard that Norfolk is maybe the most barren area of the UK for remaining railways. Either way, it's interesting to see these few lost stations of Norwich, especially since it had 3 termini! I also wonder if Trowse's 1980s opening is the shortest use of a station in the UK, i.e. has any other station been open for fewer days so randomly? Can't wait for the next video!
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Hahaha! Really glad you enjoyed this one - and yes, that's a fascinating thought RE: Trowse's brief reopening!
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 2 года назад
The Midland and Great Northern Joint Railway (terminus Norwich City) was an entire network which would keep this channel in business all by itself for two years. In peak Victoriana it had made out of the obscure medieval hamlet of Melton Constable an industrial metropolis of workshops and carriage sidings, now all gone, and Melton Constable has resumed its medieval slumber. Sic transit gloria mundi.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
I have strongly considered making a video devoted to covering the whole of the M&GN... it is tempting to be sure...massive undertaking also...but I have heard about Melton Constable - like a Crewe of Norfolk - what an extraordinary story!
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 2 года назад
@@RediscoveringLostRailways It was indeed, I believe they even built engines there. Now it hasn't even got a railway station, thus my flight into Latin. I can only warmly encourage at least parts of the truly "massive undertaking", maybe the line from Melton Constable (erstwhile centre of the universe) to Melton Mowbray, the next big station a mere 5 km after Saxby on the M&GN, my place of birth, and producer of the world's most succulent pork pies. Now if that's not worth a few bramble entanglings ...
@davidneesam2626
@davidneesam2626 2 года назад
Very good video. Shame it's all gone.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Agreed - and many thanks!
@johnsharp8632
@johnsharp8632 Год назад
Very informative. I did not know of these lost stations other than that the Railway from Melton Constable terminated here. Trowse station is a fine example of Norfolk flint and brick construction and is worthy of preserving, if anyone can find the money. At least it still stands unlike what looks to have been a wonderful station building at Norwich Victoria. Its demolition and replacement by a Legoland office block is sad to see.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
It seems the the answer to pleasant architecture, is always ugly architecture!
@geoffbrookes4594
@geoffbrookes4594 Год назад
Fascinating thanks. I enjoyed cycling the Marriotts Way a few years ago now.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
My pleasure! And it's a fine ride!
@martinmarsola6477
@martinmarsola6477 2 года назад
A nice video into the past. Thank you for the great video and chat. Cheers!
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for you comment - very much appreciated!
@daystatesniper01
@daystatesniper01 2 года назад
Superb as always my good man
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Always glad to get the approval of my long-term subscribers!
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 2 года назад
Reminded me of Lost Rail Services. i.e. There use to be "Asparagus Specials" to London from East Anglia/Norwich and from the Evesham area of the Cotswolds. I know the Cotswolds still grows Asparagus, does E Anglia? Fish Trains down to London from East Anglia and even North East Scotland. The Summer Seaside Specials. The Slip Coaches on the Trains down to Cornwall. The Car Train from Paddington to Europe. Now an NCP or other Car Park.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Yes, you don't get many named services anymore - that quirk seems to have died out!
@FalandodeAmenidades
@FalandodeAmenidades 9 месяцев назад
We still have some of these foot bridges here in São Paulo, Brazil. They were brought here in the XIX century when the British built the São Paulo Railway Company.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 9 месяцев назад
Wonderful to learn they are still standing!
@chrisbardell
@chrisbardell Год назад
Thanks, a fine film. The Whitlingham footbridge remains and is maintained because there's a public right of way going over it. As such, it will probably exist forever in some form.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Thank you indeed - and good to know that footbridge has a future!
@stormwell
@stormwell 2 года назад
The signal box at Whitlington Junction survived into the 2000s, but was demolished when the signalling on the line to Cromer was 'modernised'.
@stormwell
@stormwell 2 года назад
Oh and there were plans to extend the line from Norwich City further into the heart of the city, believe it would've terminated partway way between the castle and Thorpe station. If built, the line would've cut through the grounds of Norwich Cathedral which prompted much opposition to the plans and in the end parliament ruled against it.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Great bits of information, thanks for sharing 👍
@rustynailer8655
@rustynailer8655 9 месяцев назад
Trowse is crying out for salvation. What a beautiful tractor dealership it would make...
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 9 месяцев назад
Yes, just so!
@ianr
@ianr 2 года назад
Always a pleasure to watch, excellent again! 👏🙂
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so, thank you!
@dangerousandy
@dangerousandy 2 года назад
Another superb film. Expertly narrated and produced.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so, thank you!
@kevincollis4768
@kevincollis4768 2 года назад
Excellent as always 👍
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so, thank you!
@JeMappelleFrikandel
@JeMappelleFrikandel 2 года назад
The last station should definitely be restored to it's former glory. Shameful display!
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
It is a shame to see it decay in this way
@KevinTheCaravanner
@KevinTheCaravanner Год назад
I enjoy the poetic narration. Well done.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Thank you! I had to make my literature degree count for something!
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 2 года назад
Great review! Whilst the former M&GN line from Norwich City was much underused in its day, it's closure and that of the line from Wymondham to East Dereham to Kings Lynn left a very large public transport gap in Norfolk that persists to present times.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Yes, Norfolk is very ill served by the railways, which was not always the case!
@mattpackwood6737
@mattpackwood6737 Год назад
I was born in Overstrand Norfolk which had its own station of the Norfolk and Suffolk Joint Railway until its closure in 1953, The line went from North Walsham to Cromer. Please do a video on this line as much of the route of the line and bridges remain although no tracks are left and much is overgrown. Thank you.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Many thanks for the tip!
@malcolmrichardson3881
@malcolmrichardson3881 2 года назад
Fascinating survey of what once was a hub of railway activity. I enjoyed the way you contrasted 'now' and 'then' with the use of archive footage and an elegant , informative narrative.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you for your very kind remarks about my film and narration - much appreciated!
@MrAsBBB
@MrAsBBB 2 года назад
My partner comes from Cromer and like me is a history/train fanatic. This video is something we have been waiting for. It’s truly fabulous. Very enjoyable
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
I'm glad it didn't disappoint and did justice to your partner's neck of the woods!
@edwardsp1916
@edwardsp1916 2 года назад
Very entertaining, thank you.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
My pleasure, thank you!
@EM-yk1dw
@EM-yk1dw 2 года назад
Excellent once again please keep them coming.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thanks, will do!
@loyndsy
@loyndsy 2 года назад
Absolutely love your videos, thank you
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so, thank you
@timdaugherty5921
@timdaugherty5921 2 года назад
Oh good!! Love these videos! Thanks for sharing this!
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
My pleasure and thanks for your support!
@MrVxrman
@MrVxrman 2 года назад
You have done a sterling job as usual 👏🏻 Many thanks for all your hard work. All the best 😊🍻👍🏻
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so!
@joebarrett4353
@joebarrett4353 2 года назад
Fascinating. Thank you
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
My pleasure!
@snubby4624
@snubby4624 2 года назад
Another great film RLR. The thing I love about this channel is seeing stations I wouldn't normally be inclined to find out about, you make me care RLR.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you indeed!
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 2 года назад
Trowse would serve County Hall, home of Norfolk County Council, very nicely.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Yes, very convenient!
@tomcarr1358
@tomcarr1358 2 года назад
And the proposed residential development of the Deal Grounds where Colman used to store timer and fabricate its product despatch boxes.In County Council employees are entitled to car parking at County Hall and this employment right will not be easily bought out. Since County Hall was first occupied 2 car park extensions have been made in spite of the County Police HQ moving to Wymondham.
@RichardWells1
@RichardWells1 2 года назад
Fascinating journey around the former stations of Norwich - thank you! Informative...as always!
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
My pleasure, thank you
@jackie0604oxon
@jackie0604oxon 2 года назад
This a very enjoyable and fascinating video, thank you. I do like to see the old photos of the stations in their heyday, but it feels so sad to see how these lovely buildings have been replaced by ugly monstrosities. What a poor decision it was to get rid of so many lines seeing as the powers that be now want us to use public transport rather than drive.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so and thank you for your thoughts!
@oddities-whatnot
@oddities-whatnot 2 года назад
This channel is so pleasurable to watch, the narration is wonderful.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you. I always try to elevate the language in these films, not always successfully!
@Mykbyker
@Mykbyker 2 года назад
Thank you for another interesting and informative video, always a pleasure to watch! Mike
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it - and thank you for your continuing support of my channel!
@spencer_who1659
@spencer_who1659 2 года назад
Another great video :) and a great reason to go exploring these spots. I drive past the Norwich Vic site almost every day and never knew it once was a station !
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so and I'm glad it offered a surprise of sorts!
@BrianSeaman
@BrianSeaman 2 года назад
This was an interesting watch - thanks for all of the effort that you put into it - it is appreciated :)
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@paull2613
@paull2613 2 года назад
Very nicely put together thank you
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
My pleasure - thank you!
@petedemaio168
@petedemaio168 2 года назад
Very informative and well produced as always. I didn't know too much about the railways of Norwich, so interesting to see what is there and what is not.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks! Beyond its lost stations I must confess I know next to nothing about Norwich, but having visited a few times, I can say it is a pleasant place!
@vivekraychowdhury4348
@vivekraychowdhury4348 2 года назад
Well documented alongwith emotions as always 👌
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so
@BridgerNinja
@BridgerNinja 2 года назад
Fantastic video. (As always!)
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for you comment - very much appreciated!
@davidleathart7480
@davidleathart7480 2 года назад
Victoria Station the round booking office was once a circus. I manged a ride from the Crown Point area in the cab of an 03 up to Victoria - one way only! This was the end of a late night trip in the brake van of the Lowestoft to Whitemoor freight. We returned on the coal train. Now as for Whitlingham Jc station. I was told that it was making a profit and the accountants nevertheless wanted to shut it. Racking their destructive brains they calculated the cost of each train starting and stopping. To their - no doubt - positive delight it now made a loss. The rest his history and like the M&GN out of Norwich needed now to ease car pollution.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for your memories, thoughts and comment!
@ramblingrob4693
@ramblingrob4693 Год назад
Very interesting, an put together. Perfect
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Thank you indeed!
@Clivestravelandtrains
@Clivestravelandtrains 2 года назад
Interesting and well-presented. My late mother was from Lowestoft, and when we went there for family holidays I often used to hang around both Lowestoft Central (with its fine roof) and Lowestoft North (now vanished under a housing estate - although the station master's house remains). Happy memories.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your memories!
@fightersweep
@fightersweep 2 года назад
Another great video! Enjoyed this one as I have a big soft spot for Norwich. My wife grew up in Hellesdon and had no idea it used to have a station. Must travel over there for an explore.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for you comment and thoughts - very much appreciated!
@norfolksdisusedrailways4353
@norfolksdisusedrailways4353 2 года назад
Lovely video mate more places to add to my list..so well made and narrated well done
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so, thank you!
@a11csc
@a11csc 2 года назад
love these
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Most kind, thank you!
@tracya4087
@tracya4087 2 года назад
hooray , hooray , been waiting for this . in the interim , took my buddy on his first railway walk up to haigh junction , after fighting our way through the set of apocalypse now , he found a full ridge tile from the box and pulled a lnwr track chair from a tree , even stamped 1915 , anyway as ever , thanks for doing this for all of us , god bless from tracys husband , still in wigan . still very much part of lancashire
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Sounds like to some great finds! Glad you enjoyed the fillm!
@mikeslipper1779
@mikeslipper1779 5 месяцев назад
A great and interesting video. So much is lost.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 5 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@thurstablelane7567
@thurstablelane7567 2 года назад
A very interesting video, thank you for producing it. I volunteer on the Whitwell & Reepham Railway, not too far down the line from Norwich City, essentaily the mid-way point on the Line between Norwich & Melton.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you for your kind words about my film 😀
@davidkitchen7941
@davidkitchen7941 2 года назад
Really good video thank you. Regarding the line from Norwich City Station to Melton Constable, I have an old timetable from Summer 1958 and on Mondays to Fridays there were nine trains in each direction and a journey time of 40 minutes for the 21.25 mile route.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
What a great journey it must've been behind some fine old engine!
@pauljohnson4590
@pauljohnson4590 2 года назад
really nicely presented - thanks.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@chrishines6048
@chrishines6048 2 года назад
I don't know if I mentioned this before but there's an abandoned station not far from me which is still in pretty good condition for it's age and it can still be seen from the line once served it ( now a shared cycle route ) and you can still see a station building from the main road and if you look extra carefully you can just about see and work out the opposite platform with some ballast from all them years ago ( definitely worth walking or cycling if anyone gets a chance )
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Always happy for a recommendation!
@chrishines6048
@chrishines6048 2 года назад
@@RediscoveringLostRailways It would be something pretty cool for the channel and plus the old waiting room is now a cafe which was restored back in 2010 and you can tell if it's a waiting room as it says "Waiting room on the door"
@easytiger652
@easytiger652 2 года назад
Great video and very informative.keep up the good work.many thanks.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thanks, will do!
@paulherlihy9290
@paulherlihy9290 2 года назад
I really do love all the disused railway videos. I'm wondering if that makes me quite sad. But I don't care🙂🚂
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
It puts you in good company I'd say! Really glad you enjoyed the film 😀
@ceanothus_bluemoon
@ceanothus_bluemoon 2 года назад
That station really needs restoring, If nothing else, it would surely make a fab house. Another interesting and informative video. I knew nothing about this area at all, Thank you!
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Agreed, some sort of restoration feels essential. Glad you enjoyed the film!
@manmeetsinghmahajan6183
@manmeetsinghmahajan6183 2 года назад
Amazing.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks indeed!
@annemadison7258
@annemadison7258 2 года назад
Brilliant video.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Very kind of you to say so
@neilfranklin5644
@neilfranklin5644 2 года назад
Nice summary of developments if not progress.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks indeed!
@MattyP62618
@MattyP62618 2 года назад
Great content as always! Really nice seeing someone cover the history of my former local stations. Also kind of ironic in a way that 3 of the stations featured, when they were built, weren't considered part of Norwich. But thanks to the modern sprawl of the city they are! As a local resident, to me it would make perfect sense if Marriots Way was at least converted into a light rail system. Traffic around that part of the city is always a nightmare...
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Yes I was conscious that Drayton was pushing it a bit in terms of calling it a lost station of Norwich. Really glad you enjoyed the film!
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 2 года назад
@@RediscoveringLostRailways It's a suburb now, but it wasn't when the station closed. So, as always, YMMV.
@chrisg6086
@chrisg6086 2 года назад
It's not an area with which I am familiar, but still I found this very interesting to watch, thank you. I thought it was very well scripted, produced and presented, and very professional.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Really very kind of you to say so, thank you 😀
@philmorgan4316
@philmorgan4316 2 года назад
I used Trowse station during the electrification in 1986.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Not many will have walked on that platform since!
@davidcronan4072
@davidcronan4072 2 года назад
I think Trowse was still used after its official closure for "football specials". This is because it is located nearer Norwich City's Carrow Road ground, and it kept football fans away from Thorpe.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you indeed for your comment - yes, given its proximity, that would make good sense!
@ronnoman61
@ronnoman61 2 года назад
Glad you mentioned that. I was beginning to wonder if my memory was playing tricks. Yes, definitely used for football specials.
@craigdon3840
@craigdon3840 2 года назад
Another great video.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks indeed!
@craigdon3840
@craigdon3840 2 года назад
@@RediscoveringLostRailways does it take alot of effort to do the videos.. time ect. Do you have to stay overnight at places. I'm do it at the weekend or around work? Very entreagued
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
@@craigdon3840 Yes, a lot of time and effort. First I select a project and may spend several weeks gathering pictures, footage and information. I usually spend a day filming having consulted maps extensively, working out where I can access trackbed etc. Sometimes I take a few days for longer projects. Then I will spend several weeks editing off and on, usually of an evening. This stage it critical, trying ascertain the pitch of the film, writing the script, whilst trying to experiment with music, six, vfx and much more. Editing is definitely the longest part of the process but the most rewarding. Critically I stick to publishing once every two months, meaning I can take my time over it and not rush. Publishing weekly is not compatible with my work and would make my hobby feel onerous. Remaking my Oxford to Cambridge film this summer and would be pleased to meet with you at Bedford St John's since you know the old site to well!
@craigdon3840
@craigdon3840 2 года назад
@@RediscoveringLostRailways i would definitely be up for meeting up this summer. We can arrange nearer the time. With all thats going on in bedford with the Oxford to Cambridge line that's a good idea to remaster that. There is alot of opposition regard the newer line. Thanks for your reply
@IndigoJo
@IndigoJo Год назад
Interesting that Victoria was closed so early. It doesn't make sense that the trains from London terminate at a separate station from the regional trains so that you can't transfer easily. Trowse could actually function as a pass-through station so that trains could run straight through Norwich from east to west without reversing and terminating trains from London could call so that passengers can transfer.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Many thanks for your thoughts!
@mr.d1775
@mr.d1775 2 года назад
As always very informative and interesting video. It is difficult to imagine any of these lines opening up now as the dependency on cars is so common It begs the question though if these lines had not closed, would car use be so dominant in our transport requirements?
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for you comment and thoughts - very much appreciated!
@deauvilledad07
@deauvilledad07 Год назад
Great video, would have been nice if you'd have included the A frame bridge at Drayton.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Many thanks indeed 🙏
@jerribee1
@jerribee1 2 года назад
It's so sad that so many railway buildings of architectural merit have been destroyed to make way for purely utilitarian structures that do nothing to improve the environment, and which, in some cases, just look grim.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Agreed. It is a sad story repeated across the land!
@andrewfanner2245
@andrewfanner2245 2 года назад
Very well done. As the last station building is listed it would be possible for the local authority to serve a repair order of some form upon the owners (if not them).
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
It would be great to see that lovely building have some sort of afterlife!
@tomcarr1358
@tomcarr1358 2 года назад
Interesting view of the new short sidings in the fork between the line to Thetford and Ipswich and the line to Yarmouth etc. The sidings were completed perhaps 2 years ago and remained empty until a few weeks ago. Current stock in occupation look like the new outer suburban trains awaiting introduction for the Essex and Suffolk services out of L'pool Str. These trains have been fragmented because of the short siding capacity. The sidings compound is well built and secured by split top palisade fencing and generous flood lighting.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thanks for the details - I did not know anything about the Crown Point Depot redevelopment until recently!
@dogwoodtube
@dogwoodtube Год назад
Very interesting thanks
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
@Edwardify
@Edwardify Год назад
This is really interesting
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Many thanks. Do subscribe if you've not already done so and enjoy my other films in the series 😀
@jimdieseldawg3435
@jimdieseldawg3435 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing 🙂 I have a suggestion for a future video: the Salt Line from Alsager via Malkins Bank and Wheelock to Sandbach. Seems to have evaded in-depth coverage. Closed ‘71, lifted ‘74. Elton Crossings signalbox was transplanted to the North Staffs Railway but the crossing-keeper’s cottage is still in situ, albeit recently modified. The NSR goods shed in Elworth is still in situ, now a car body repair shop. No evidence remains of the former connection to the former Fodens Limited site in Elworth but the trackbed of the link between the Salt Line and Sandbach Station is still visible, trailing to the left when heading to Crewe. There’s even some controversy; a cutting at Malkins Bank was subsequently used as a landfill and by all accounts, some pretty nasty stuff was illegally dumped there before it was landscaped and of all things, became part of a golf course. My interest in this line? The former trackbed (now Salt Line Way) runs past the end of my garden, about 50 metres from Elton Crossings 🙂
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for this recommendation!
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 2 года назад
I used to live near Norwich and its such a wonderful city. As it's known as the "Fine City". And my parents also likes Norwich.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
I don't know it very well but I have enjoyed visiting it a few times - that title seems well earned!
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 2 года назад
I city once known for having a church for every sunday of the year, and a pub for every day. No-longer true, but it's packed with fine old buildings in odd spots. I love Norwich, and grew up near there. But it was a deathly dull place to live as a youngster. Maybe it's improved now.
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 2 года назад
Norwich railway station is my favourite. But yes the city centre is lovely. Also with the Class 379 Electrostars which are parked up and unused. I do think that they are likely to be cascaded to Great Northern.
@charliescottdouglas9378
@charliescottdouglas9378 2 года назад
Looking at all the graffiti scrawled over these disused buildings makes one realise how society has imploded since the 1950's. A great window into the past. Many thanks.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you indeed! As for graffiti, it is a real blight...
@puresalvation2009
@puresalvation2009 2 года назад
In my opinion. None of these stations should have never been closed. We have a dire need in Britain now have a decent railway system and I think a decent railway line between Norwich and King's Lynn would be a great idea and also opening up the branch line for Dereham to Fakenham would also be a great idea. Since all these lines were initially closed the population and housing a swelled inexorably. The populations of Dereham. Fakenham and Norwich have almost doubled. Along with the planned thousands of houses on both the Eastern fringes and western fringes of Norwich. Also for thousands of home plan for Dereham Fakenham and Attleborough. More Station should be planned and the railway operator could make these upgrades pay. I think we should Electrify older branch lines out of Norwich. From Norwich to Great Yarmouth and Lowestoft. Norwich to Cromer and Sheringham and also Norwich to Cambridge. With new high speed trains travelling over 100 miles an hour. This would open up the Norfolk region totally two business and passengers alike. I think we should open up original Marriotts way line as well. As I think it's very needed. With stations at Hellesdon. Drayton. Taverham. Lenwade and so on write the way to Kings Lynn. I think it's shocking that there's no direct railway connection between Norwich and Kings Lynn. This in my opinion is a must for the region. Thank you for uploading this video. Could you please do a video on the Long Melford to Bury St Edmunds branch line and also the Bury St Edmunds to Thetford railway line? Pure.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
I'll certainly look into it. Thank you for your thoughts and comment - Norfolk surely suffered more railway cuts than most back in the day!
@Hornhausen
@Hornhausen 2 года назад
Nice video.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks indeed!
@chrislaarman7532
@chrislaarman7532 2 года назад
(I'm subscribed to this channel, but I have hardly found the opportunity to watch videos. And I'm Dutch, in the Netherlands.) Me too, I feel that nostalgia. It probably started when I walked the track bed of the former Coniston branch line (in the Lake District) in 1971. But I also recognise different sides. There is the side of the "buildings and tracks" and the side of transport possibilities. The buildings (if not too big) could have been preserved, perhaps disassembled then re-assembled on a heritage line, and the tracks could have been handed to heritage lines. The buildings may also show a change in use through the years: from few people having to wait long to many people having to wait a few minutes (apart from the spiralling down that seems to have occurred both in Britain and in Germany, at least). And for goods maybe the change from parcels to pallets or even entire sea containers as the units moved. But I'm more concerned about the transport possibilities (for people and for goods). The closure of lines (notably for passengers) seems to have gained momentum in the 50s, even before Dr. Beeching got involved. (Here in the Netherlands, the process had started around 1936.) But then, should everything have continued as it was: a few slow trains per day for dwindling passenger numbers, a freight network of countless tiny wagons for companies with ever more, ever bigger, ever faster trucks, with at Beeching's time leaving a loss of (quoting from memory) a million "uninflated" pounds each day? There may come a time (or it may already have come) when it does make sense to re-create transport services along roughly former lines. Like using comfortable and frequent light-rail stock. (I don't even have a driving license.) It may (or may not) be great to transport sea containers to and from the East Coast ports, rather than have lorries (with drivers, despite a shortage!) stuck in Kent waiting to cross from Dover. And in moving these containers, rekindling some railroads could be instrumental. (I don't have specific suggestions in mind, though.) In short: "the times they are a-changing". Scenes may have been idyllic, and it's nice to have them remembered in videos like this, but it may be time to move on. (Pun accepted.)
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Many thanks for your thoughts and comments. Really appreciated. Glad you've managed to check out one of my films. Thanks for the subscription!
@Plaxton_presidents
@Plaxton_presidents 2 года назад
I live near Hellesdon my grandad lived on marl pit Lane on the hill he still remembers the railway in service god bless him
@Plaxton_presidents
@Plaxton_presidents 2 года назад
But now my grandad lives the ger but close to another closed railway the Lakenham way used to transport coal the Sainsbury’s opposite the bus station used to be coal sorting where my Nan used to work
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
Thank you for your thoughts and comment 🙏
@Jamesb944
@Jamesb944 2 года назад
The frames of Nowrich city shed were recovered by the NNR and erected at Weyborne. Some of the guttering acted at the water trough for the end sequence in the Dads Army episode "The Royal train".
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways 2 года назад
So some of it still survives, that's great news!
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 Год назад
The M&GN was a totally unnecessary duplicated railway. But so iconic and so much missed.
@RediscoveringLostRailways
@RediscoveringLostRailways Год назад
Many thanks for your thoughts 🙏
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