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Yeah, I found the world design actually really good. (Characters a bit uncanny, could probably use more work against that.) Shame the plot and story isn’t as good.
My guess is they wanted to make her stand out from the rest of her people, while also communicating that she was more reasonable and down to Earth by giving her more modest attire.
So basically Forspoken? But ironically if Forspoken was a mid 2000's game it probably would have been so bad it's good, written halfway decent and had some unique fun game loop. Instead of the crap Square pushed out
Here's a fun fact about Forspoken: One of its credited writers is Amy Hennig, the woman behind the legendary Legacy of Kain series -- which I consider a personal influence on my vocabulary growing up -- as well as the Uncharted series. This is the equivalent of watching Leonardo da Vinci go from painting the Mona Lisa to drawing stick figures with a lump of dried poo.
This movie simply doesn't know which target audience it wants. If it was made for kids, why go so deep into political issues? If it was made for people who like fantasy epics with political intrigue, why have a comic relief and cookie cutter characters? If it was made for fans of worldbuilding, why is the worldbuilding so plot convenient?
The bare minimum compliment I can give to this movie is that the wing severing, and having a collection of fake wings, was a cool little bit of world building.
"Remember the annoying character from the Dungeons and Dragons movie?" "Yeah. I liked the part where he died." "But what if we made a film where he _didn't_ die?" "Here are millions of dollars for some reason."
I actually managed to see this in theaters for the one week that it played. Went and saw it with my dad after a particularly rainy and miserable fishing trip. The movie only further soured our sense of disappointment.
"But after some, they start realize that letting in millions of migrants unchecked, might be causing some societal problems" I spit out my drink and had a hearty laugh
Remember that boring Dinosaur movie by Disney with the bizarre character designs? The characters in this movie look to me like if the dinosaurs in that dinosaur movie were turned into humanoid bipeds.
I'm pretty sure the monkey soldier who said "You're on your own, kid" is the same one as blue guy. The point is that the blue guy killed the frog kid's parents, but then later unwittingly ended up helping him. That's why it was thematically significant.
Whe n he helped da kid. Dat made me kry yo... I wuz like he killed da kidz mam n pops n now he helpin him? I wuz like dam yo.. dat deep. Ong no cap. I kryd yo
Let me tell you some facts about the production of this movie. Fathom Studios, the company behind this movie, began development in 1999 and animation work began in 2001. As you can tell, their in production hell for too long. This explains why Anne Bancroft and John Vernon passed away before the film was released in theaters and lost 40 million dollars at the box office. You can tell that this film was inspired by Lord of the Rings, Star Wars: Clone Wars, and that game by EA called Spore. Oh, and to end it all off, these ground-dwelling Loknis look like shellless turtles other than frogs.
Jason Maurer, one of the directors of the film, was one of my professors in art College. If I remember correctly, he got two opportunities at once, he could do this film or direct a Halo game. We all kind of laughed when he told us this, considered how things turned out, but he doesn't regret the film. Despite how things turned out. He even has tattoos on his arms that are references to the movie. I think he saw it as a learning opportunity for him, and in a way, an accomplishment, how often does one get the opportunity to direct a film. Though, I'm sure he wished things had turned out better. Hopefully, I got all that right, it was like ten years ago since I was in college.
Wow, yeah, I bet he felt like the people working at Dark City when the Matrix came out. But yeah I don't hate this movie, it is not very good but you can see the effort.
Any offer for a Halo job would have been a couple years in after the Delgo work started, a choice to keep going with the movie or jump ship. Wikipedia says that Delgo began in 1999 but by late '97 concept "art, " sculptures, 3d scanner work and rough scripts were already being written. I know because I was there, and dislike revisionist history.
@surly_mel I said straight up, if I remember correctly and that this was like 10 years ago, perhaps it was a different game, or perhaps my professor came in on the film late in production so it could have been Halo in the end. Anyway, the point of my comment was he had two choices and he chose Delgo, something that didn't pan out but still took it all in stride and respect.
Oh@@Thomagata I wasn't taking issue with you, sorry if I came off that way. I once looked to Jason as a brother, so I understand having him as a teacher was probably a great experience. A cool aside: another 3d dev who was there at the same time tried to sell the boss on doing short films at first, instead of a full feature all in one go... Boss wasn't hearing any of it. The 3d dev left for Turner and went on to do (at least) the early years of TOM for Toonami. The shorts panned out well.
So the lizard people have no guards at all around their SUPER-IMPORTANT HOLY TEMPLE and one guy can fly in and spend a crap-ton of time knocking HUGE ROCKS OVER WHICH WOULD MAKE A LOT OF NOISE... and doesn't get caught, not even seen! BY ANYONE!! This is some "Twilight Saga"-level writing right here.
The "comedic" relief guy is like, every single bad aspect of that trope all at once. He's A) Goofy to the point of being a hindrance to the group. B) Every line of dialogue is nothing short of punchable, from voicing, to the very lines as written. C) Instead of actively contributing to the strength of the party, his actions work in direct service to the villains. And D)He has a randomly undeserved "hero" moment with little to no development to make it funny, or a satisfying cap to a character arc. Like sure, we know he has a slingshot. But last time he used it, he was literally so incompetent he ended up compromising the mission. What, did he levelgrind offscreen? He should have been an annoying bumbling henchman to the big bad, as this would make the well better written (though still terrible) monkey kingdom give him a reason for his position despite being a militarized court jester, and subsequently, cut significantly down on the available screentime for him.
"Your on your own" blue guy is a good guy because he spared a kid years ago... While murdering that kids parents, and entire village. But he did spare the one kid. So he's good. Okay?
Perhaps blue guy was the soldier that spared Delgo's life back then idk. Never heard of this movie before. Seems I wasn't missing much. Also that is the cutest goddamn Kraken I have ever seen.
This has such XSI/softimage vibes. People are giving this flak for looking like bad CG, but this is an incredibly good result to get from the tools they were using. I think it comes full circle and works really well. It's just a shame it came out during the fastest period of development in CG. 5 years isn't much now, it was an eternity in the early 2000's
You could make incredible looking stuff with XSI in the time this movie was being created wtf are you on about. Like the other guy said it’s just a hideous art direction.
Love how the dad suddenly becomes racist in the interest of stealing Romeo and Juliet, even though he was perfectly fine with them during the lore dump. 👌
@@deathsheadknight2137That occurred to me too, the warlike monkey people in ornate armor certainly share a similarity, plus they live on floating citadels and fly on dragons? And the zen buddhist turtle people can move things with their minds and shape the world, like the Githzerai...
Yeah, but Food Fight was a limited release after having been carted off to multiple other distribution companies. Delgo, inexplicably, got a 2000 theater release and the studio that made it held onto it from inception to release.
Fun fact: when Marc and Jason went to New York and drove Bridge Hampton in New York to meet Anne Bancroft and record her lines in a recording studio that became defunct where she lives after her death in 2005 in the studio they recorded her was a little cabin they have a recording booth that was small as a phone booth and she was uncomfortable with close spaces so they left the door open and they can hear construction work outside while they were toilets flushing in the background so some of lines they try to clean up because of not so best quality but they try to clean it up to do the best they could because they really want to get her voice until she died from uterine cancer
I had a fever dream when I was a kid while Cartoon Network or nick was on and I fever dreamed that I watched a weirdly abridged version of this movie I pieced together from the ad for this movie that kept playing at the time. Channels like you who cover stuff like this is the only reason I know what the actual name of the movie is.
Am I the only one that looks forward to seeing Victor Alexander in the patreon credits. I noticed he hasn't been in the past few videos, which I can't complain, but for me my head cannon was that he was a running "joke" on the channel. I miss seeing his name 😢
it was somones passion project but got tangled in studio bullshit and so the creator left ending in the studio releasing it to recoup some of the losses
Great review! I haven't seen the film, but it looks wretched. One thing though: someone has their wings cut off and starts collecting fake wings? I... kinda like that.
@@613harbinger316 Worse, because if they're not fake they were stolen from someone. I guess the thing is we have all these aliens and fantastic races who can fly or breathe underwater and all that, and it makes sense that if they lost their special ability they'd feel as crippled as a human who suddenly lost their legs or something. So getting all these fake wings is pathetic butn understandable, someone trying to deal with a rather horrible emotional trauma.
I have heard told in tones incredulous mockery the story of the epic flop, horrendous animation, and inexplicable voice cast that was Delgo, but I thought it was all just myth.
This video sure does warm my cold, dead heart. For anyone who might think that there was any spark, any promise early on... No, no there wasn't. Like an old roomate of mine Delgo just stole art/ideas from anything successful and made poor copies of them, lumpy and awful. From the very beginning there was no desire to tell a good story, no heart in its chest.
Cheap discount Master Oogway"If you wish to control the stones you must first..." Me, "Control yourself? In other words, learn self-control, which would actually be a decent lesson?" Yoda's much uglier inbred cousin,"... let go..." Me, "Wow... that could not possibly have been lamer. I've read fortune cookies with better life advice."
I think the implication is that it was Blue Guy who Delgo remembers saying that same line to him during the genocide. So Blue Guy sacrificed himself to save Delgo over feeling guilty for participating in destroying Delgo's village all those years ago. Also the movie isn't even that bad, just mediocre. It's the huge budget and long production time that makes it look like a disaster.
I have a weird nostalgia for this movie. Not because I like it or have even seen it, but because my reactions to how it looked from the trailers back in 2008 are forever seered into my memory.
Weird, I was thinking about this movie the other day. Thinking about how shitty it was, and why nobody ever talks about how shitty it was.I guess the universe agreed.
What, even worse than "Foodfight!"? That's impressive! My favourite part of Foodfight! is when the idiotic bad guys try to create a huge corporation called "Brand X", which has a big white "x" on a black background as its logo, and use Brand X to try and take over, replacing other, more popular brands with a big white "X". But that could never happen in real life, right? RIGHT?!
So what you're saying is... Elon Musk is actually a robot piloted by an old female food mascot... Wait... Aunt Jemima was cancelled a few years ago and then Elon bought Twitter... oh my god... :O
This doesn't look worse than Foodfight, IMHO. It seems like the story doesn't attempt to step outside the limits of their production abilities, and the animation, in general, doesn't look like the fever dreams of an insane coke addict drizzled in pure liquid shite.
Yes, because clearly that was a prediction of Musk taking over Twitter. You are so simply, real life does not have good guys and bad guys. And you pretend Twitter was a wonderful place full of love and community, instead of the toxic hashtagMeTwee cancel culture nightmare it was. Now we have a place where you can post without worrying about banned for life if someone takes umbrage at your opinion. That's so bad?
I need this ma... Possum, to review either The Two Towers, which could be a reañly good comparing point to critisice other movies, or Babylon A.D. that is the prime example of wasted potential
