The Lowest Scoring Loco | Heljan 1361 Class | Unboxing & Review 

I do design for a living, and this could not had been prototypes or tested properly. The tolerances and the construction shows no research and development went into these locos. I share your frustration Sam!

"British man politely scolds small locomotive using his inside voice"

"If I'm completely honest, I'm getting lowkey triggered at this" The most brittish frustration

Sam: “My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.”

You know it's bad when the best compliment you can give is about the brackets on the coal bunker.

When he said "Quarter-Assed" I completely died.

Heljan took Sam's review of the LNER tango, scrutinized over it. Thought long and hard and eventually, after long long hours of sweat and determination they achieved what nobody else thought possible. Some called them crazy but they did it. No longer would they listen to the LNER tango being acclaimed as the worst loco ever being produced by a questionable company. They saw the challenge, starred it straight in the eye and said, we can do worse.

This model is so impressive *if this was 1975* The most likes ive ever gotten

“Alan the Heljan, was a showoff.” “He was a lazy bum, who never pulled his weight on this railway.” “He rode roughly and constantly stopped, to prevent taking trains he didn’t want to take.” “One day, manager told him he was going to make him useful at last.” “What did the manager do with him?” “He partly dismantled him, taking away his wheels and removing his motor. They turned him into a pumping engine.” “He’s still their behind the goods shed, he’ll never move again.” “Our manager wouldn’t be that cruel, would he?” “No, you got me there. *He chucked him down the stairs and used the remains for set dressing.”*

"So, the theme today is locos that are cheaper, and better than this one" What an absolute burn.

I wish someone made an accurate one. I really like 1361s.

I nearly spat my cup of tea out when I heard the price 😂

Me: looks at thumbnail, "It doesn't look that bad" Video: Me: Dies

Me: SaM tHaT iS tHe BeSt LoCoMoTiVe I hAvE eVeR sEeN! Viewers: *Loud screeching noises*

19:36 In usual heljan style it broke off. That made me laugh so much for some reason. Also this model is probably the worst every seen, a cheap plastic kids toy made to be thrown around is probably better than this.

I think it looks good Update: after watching this one, I'll take the heljan tango

Duck the Great Western Engine: "There are two ways of doing things: the Great Western way, or the wrong way..." I would say 'the wrong way" is an understatement with this one XD

Honestly, this would be a great loco to weather. A bit of dirt and rust would hide and/or compliment some of its blemishes quite well. You could even do it up as an engine that's being sent for scrap. Then put in another consist like its being pulled, that would hide how fast this loco needs to go to not die on points.

*sees thumbnail* Oh boy

Why are we still even bothering with Heljan?

"who designed this?" Apple maybe?

Wow, Heljan just can't make great good steamers consistently, can they? Overpriced, too.

For a price like that it should be all metal looks great though- loved the review -Ollie

Wow. Those rear windows are killing me. I thought maybe they were supposed to be some sort of corrugated glass/plastic but looking up pictures of the real loco (and much better scratch builds and kit builds other modelers have made) shows Heljan was trying to simulate metal bars across the windows! Definitely unacceptable for a model that costs over $200 USD, even if it is just a small engine. Also, that middle axle looks bent since one of the wheels clearly wobbles when you were running it upside down.

*looks at the locomotive* Aww that’s a cute tank engine *looks at the title* Ohhhhh nooooo *hears the RRP* Piss off with that nonsense

Tune into sams trains next week where he runs this loco with dapols amazing egg vans he got in a sale and watch him have a massive fit

For this Summer, run the Heljan Tango double headed with the 1361 class in your paddling pool full of water

Excellent review Sam. I bought one of these at Model Rail Scotland last weekend and returned it the next day. The finish was terrible and after running in gently for 20 minutes the motor burned out. Before dying, it stuttered and stopped constantly on slow running and was really noisy. Bought a Hornby Fowler 4P tank instead and that is fantastic - plus it was £13 cheaper!

Heljan honestly seems like a scam at the moment, trying to sell as a high class (and price) model, but giving toy quality. Just an unfunny joke.

Watching this video again reminds me of something, there are models out there that are objectively being treated worse than this, if you're a hardcore Thomas fan, you'll know what I'm talking about, if you don't, I'll explain. There's a theme park somewhere in the UK called Drayton manor Thomas land, it's essentially a theme park for Thomas the tank engine, in that park, there is an exhibit called; "Discover Thomas and Friends" Basically, what it is, it's a shed that displays some the props from the TV show that they used in seasons 1-12. (Yes they used custom-made Gauge 1 model trains for a TV show. Mindblowing huh?) Anyway, getting back to my original point, the props being displayed at Drayton manor... Are treated WORSE than the Heljan 1361 class you showed in this video sam. If you want proof to show I'm not lying, here is said proof; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OFAPBZ_14VE.html What's worse is that these are models that are custom made, they are one-of-a-kind models, they should NOT be treated in such a shoddy state! They were not designed to sit in a shed with natural light and no temperature control. I imagine the recent warmer weather over there in the UK hasn’t helped. I'll stop ranting about this now because you probably get the point by now... I hope. So yeah, I've seen worse model trains than that green 1361 class, Sam.

150 quid for that. XD

Well I have a proper name for this loco. "Wicked of the West".

That was the saltiest running session theme ever

24:30 “ And now some ratings for this horrible waste of my money!” lol 😆

That price for... That? Boy, has April Fools come early this year...

I'm having such a hard time thinking that professionals tested this model and decided it was ready for release. This is hurting my brain just as much as thinking that producers could have okayed the final takes for Metallica's "Lulu" I was expecting it to burst into flames as it was running

Actually, Thats My Favorite Gwr Engine

Not to be confused with the prr K4

I love my dj models 1361, very smooth and controlled when run in, though the weight can let it down a bit. Brill model though and on regular rotation on my layout.

Send it back but instead of returning the loco, just take a crap in the box and see if they notice the difference 🤣

First and last Heljin loco I got was one of these. Suffice to say, my experience was similar to yours, with the added bonus of one of the front buffers being missing. On the bright side, I took it back to the dealer and got a full refund. Even gave me a slight discount on a Hornby terrier. Best little loco I have.

Here's an idea to punish it: Go to a heritage railway, and throw it down a steam locomotive's firebox!

That was amazing sam

Matthew: Should I Take him to the Scrap Yard? Class1361: plz wait no plz I don't wanna die Plz D: Matthew: I am Sorry Class 1361: no no plz I don't wanna go in plz let me go- Matthew: [Cuffs out of the smelting shed] There The Job is Done I-I'm sorry [Puffs away]

16:00 Horseshoe and air brakes, eat your heart out. *Tightens axels to the chassi* In all seriousness though, Ever considering a refund Sam?

It does look a lot like Percy.

Funniest 30 minutes of my entire life XD

Can it survive 20 hits from a sledge hammer? That's a very good question.

Hi sam thanks for doing a good job with your channel. There might be a screw under the steam dome to get the boiler off the Heljan 1361 you probably have see this

I would like to see a re-review of this someday, because in reflection this almost seems a generous score

My two brand new hornby 0-6-0s have failed after 3 months, it'd be interesting to see how long these go for!

Blimey what a vulgar engine, did the designers and modellers even consider testing?

Another really useful video Sam, when I heard the price my flabber has never been so gasted!

I would just use the cab for a custom RWS percy

You should do a part 2 and do an interview with the designers/the boss!! :-)

Technically, for Sam, DJM is worse. He has now had three steamers from both companys. Let's add the scores up: Heljan: 02 = 5.39 Garrett = 7.45 1361 = 4.67 DJM: Beattie Well Tank = 0.00 J94 = 5.65 1361 = 6.75 Totals: Heljan = 17.51 DJM = 12.40

I have always found your assessment of locos fair and reasonable, so I`m guessing this one is abysmal. Cheers Greg

Gutted this is such a bad model as I love the loco. Seen it in action at Didcot.

Yes but which one is more of a RIP off: this of the railcar 1361 vs GWR diesel railcar

It's either the greate western way, or the wrong way, and that engine is doing it the wrong way

I mean it's technically scamming

It's a beautiful locomotive but the only thing I'll gripe about it is the way the mechanicalism in the way it works it's even worse Bachmann steam locomotive the American one like the one I have a mine has a metal chassis no split solid and it runs good and it's got steel wheels all the way through with proper bearings I wish you would get one of the newer Bachmann engines they are beautiful the American steam engines

Sam you must be the national archiver historian of model trains by now! 🤣

I am thinking of getting this model and putting the body and running board on an electrotren chassis.

Lesson learned: don't buy over-priced heljian

I'll buy one..... ..... to dismantle for spares for my baracaldo but even then I refuse to put rubbish parts of rubbish models onto my decent models

Sam that challenge with the red ruston shunter for hornby the other day did you keep the shunter

It's called Danegeld en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld The Danish have long plundered from the English, be it fish to toy trains. It is possible to get great quality out of Chinese factories, for example the German company Brawa spec. superbly finished models, not the Christmas-cracker level Heljan source...

How the absolute F they are allowed to sell this for £160 and how did Heljan managed to fit 9 screws onto base plate for an 0-6-0 year tank engine whereas Hornby fit 3 screws for an 0-6-0 j15 tender engine with better mechanism and build quality for a retailer price of £71. Heljan you are disgrace for building this and putting the price so high. Thanks for the video Sam🙂🙂 ps I concentrated more on your slippers then the loco.

This waste of atoms makes the tango look like the Hornby J36. I feel bad for anyone who paid the full price for this, expecting a good model. Edit: It was actually the 2nd lowest scoring. The USA Prairie got 4.11, but I think that was probably better than this abysmal piece of rubbish

I can’t believe it. It is worse in every single objective way compared to a Hornby Peckett, even if you discard the price! What was Heljan thinking of?! This makes even the worst that Bachmann can offer, in terms if price-to-quality, look spectacular!

Like many modern models looks good in places , runs ok but is too expensive for what it is. Servicing is hard or impossible. Can you imagine it in 20 years time ! I can service my Hornby pannier from 1973 which still runs well but this would end up just on display.

The Chinese no doubt make them for £1.59 each! Bit of a markup! They certainly... screwed that one up! The same goes for Xmas cards... notice how they are still full cost but are now made in China for next to nothing! Westerners are really naive at times. Thanks for the video Sam.

I don’t like Heljan locomotives. Because they are so expensive.

Problems in the supply line from China, my daughter has had a sad email saying all the deliveries of her scenery materials to Australia have had to cease....logistical problems and the factory at GuangDong Province has had to close due to Corona.

5:29 not bad 7:25 lowkey triggered Opinions changed very soon lol

Right... So Sam, tell us what you really think! Don't hold back. 😜 WOW. I would have felt ripped off in 1980 with this. So it crawls... But is there ANY speed control between 1 and 20 mph (scale)?? That's the most utterly dreadful Loco I've seen in the past 20 years. REALLY? How much? 😖😡 Heljan can't sell anything in the Colonies either. Their US Diesel Models are abysmal at best! Now Rivarossi.... Have you tested any? We consider them amongst the finest HO Scale Trains sold in the U.S. Sorry you've WASTED your money. Carmine ✈🚂🚙

My mainline highflier is better than this it’s the same as the one you used to have I got mine working after my dad put it in the loft for 34years I’m 13 and used your old vid keep up the good content your a great inspiration thanks Theo

Just send it back, they will never get better until they are getting loads of returns that cost them sales and income (And Rails should be ashamed about selling trains this bad ) It is up to the retailers to tell them unless they sort there act out they will not stock or sell the brand any longer they are just ripping people off.

3 feet... Yer mean 3 kilometers but even that's pushing it

As soon as you got the model out of the box, I knew something was wrong. Parts just looked oily-looking (even though it wasn't oil!) and out of place, as if it had taken a bath in a deep frier! (That's probably where this model would be headed!) A poor model and a poor manufacturer.

How many poles should a motor have... Random Person: 2 - 1 for south and 1 for North Hornby: 5 pole motors are the best Bachmann: Lets scrape into the market with our mechanism and forget about the motor Heljan: You're not supposed to ask this

Is it wrong that I kinda want heljan to go bust or is that to harsh?

[English] I've Been Staring At The Edge Of The Water🎵🎵🎵🎵 (NEW LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Great video Sam it looks great personally Why do you complain about stuff that you buy when you can watch a review first and then make your decision I am just asking

Is the windmill broke? It looked like it was cutting out

Did you end up keeping it or sending it back? I would suggest sending it back, but that’s just me.

Sam, I’ve always had a question that seems silly, but what exactly wheel bearings? It would be nice to know.

Wow. Just skipped ahead and saw the scores. Not a good loco

Could you drive the S15 on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway on Train simulator please

You'd be better off Kitbashing one out of an old Mantua American 0-6-0 side tank locomotive

The next time you go to a heritage railway you should chuck it in a engines fire.

don't get me wrong I like this engine however the way Heljan have put this and assembled it together and for the most ridiculous price THEY MUST BE TAKING THE BISCUIT!!! I agree with you Sam, good thing you released this video because I was considering buying one myself since Hattons had it down to £99

out of curiosity would you ever do a comparison between this one and the Dj Models version?

Wow. But not a good wow but a shocking wow. Was considering getting one of these, glad I didn’t. An opportunity missed I’d say. I’m still hopeful heljan can produce a top quality model but it’s becoming harder to justify them. A Hornby 0-6-0 peckett would be a much better purchase and it’s cheaper! A great review Sam and keep up the great content. Clint

it's interesting that this came from the same country as lego: Denmark

And the doubleheader with the steam sentinel and J 94 is pulling ocean wagons, mail coaches, some ventilated Vans, egg vans, and all the tankers you have. The B12 and 4Mt pulling Pullman and tieks coaches along with LMS and Caledonian railway coaches.

This looks like it was designed by a child and made by an infant

The Tango finally has a friend!!! They complement each other's horridness and overpriced quite nicely.

Will you ever get another Heljan loco?