I know it's probably asking too much but I'd love to see the original M1 lineup (M1/Pro/Max/Ultra) in these graphs, just to see how much the advancement has been for us early adopters (M1 Max owner here)
I am wishing the same thing. I got a 16" M1 Pro at a super discount when the M2's showed. It's still more computer than I need but I love the screen and speakers and coming from an Intel I7 "campfire starter" MacBook. It is blazing fast and runs cool.
Display tuning is not as good as samsung. Samsung has faster response snd much better colour coverage and anti reflecrive 600 nits results in a revolutionary powerfull streaming machine ever to exists.
@@ehtasam2080 That is a hot take. The iPad Pro has always had one of the best displays for a tablet. 600nits is not alot when the iPad goes well over a thousand. Also when you are streaming, lower response times dont really make a difference. If anything the anti reflective coating is ALSO available on the new iPad even though it dumbs the picture quality by alot (this is why Macs didnt have antireflective coatings in the past). Though Samsung probably makes iPad displays, Apples integration of hardware and software is miles better. Its Apples greed to lock down the iPad to prevent the Mac sales from being hurt.
@@nikhildasm2352 s24 ultra display in real life is 100x better than iphone 15 pro max. Same goes for samsung tab 600nits with anti reflective and better colour tuning >>>>> apple display
The M4 iPad Pro is so powerful that the display needs to be on when connected to an external display with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Absolutely incredible.
I think there are more pilots using the M4 iPads than actual power users fully utilizing the hardware. 😂 Some pilots would just purchase just because of brighter screen and better thermal. Otherwise it’s the ultimate streaming machine.
Many people choose to buy the iPad Pro because they plan to keep it for several years and they appreciate the additional features it offers. I have an M1 iPad Pro that is almost 3.5 years old, and it still outperforms everything. To be honest, I expect it to last me for over 7 years, which is a great investment. I get features like miniLED, 120Hz display, M1 performance, great speakers, and more, which are all comparable to what current tablets in 2024 offer.
So basically the regular M4 is going to perform equally to my M2 Max Machine. Uhm interesting. Still I don’t even push my machine to the limit so that’s completely insane.
@@Jushwam4 uses 30 watts and has m1 max cpu performance M1 max also uses 30 watts. So no architectural efficiencu gains Architectural efficiency remains same since m1 to m4.
I love how sure everyone is that there will be an Apple event in October even though it's already October and they haven't announced one yet. But they did announce last year's pretty late, and it wasn't until the end of the month. I would love it if they fooled everyone and waited until November, though.
Buying a new laptop every 3-5 years. Dang, I still use my 2014 Macbook Pro. It's honestly time to get a new one, but I think I can hold off for a new generation.
@@dmug connecting third party monitors to an Apple is an inconvenient mess I don’t want to take several steps and calibration everytime I turn my computer on
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i'm on M1 Max and waiting for bigger boost in GPU, so maybe next year.
Considering they already spent the money to design a thin tandem OLED display for the iPads, would make sense for them to do the same for the MacBooks as mini LED just isn’t competitive anymore.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="98">1:38</a> -> 4 cores is actually 33% less cores then 6 cores because you have to divide 2 by 6. If you said the M3 Pro has 50% more P cores then the the M4 that would be correct.
Actually, not really. It depends on context and how you word things. When starting from 6 to 4, its a 33% reduction (Since reducing 2 from the original 6 is 33%). But going from 4 to 6 could be phrased as a 50% increase (Since adding 2 from the original 4 is 50%).
@@Eigel there is no context Luke's math and wording is wrong and you just said the exact same thing as L0p3s just with addition of actually not really, but actually, it is actually a real fuck up.
My wish list for a next generation MBP is Tandem OLED (of course) and possibly FaceID (if it can fit). Other than that im am super happy with my 2021 M1 Pro 14in MBP
Let's keep in mind that the fanless iPad M4 GPU benches higher than the full fat highest end desktop class APU graphics from AMD (8700G) that uses a softball sized fan and cooler and pulls 65 watts all by itself. I am pretty happy with M4 graphics performance so far, even if the iPad version isn't a crazy leap. The Pro and Max versions will be amazing, and if an Ultra comes out and it has a single chip design, its will be insane, as previous generations were held back by the interconnect hiccups. Please talk about Apple's APU graphics more, as a lot of the journalists seem to keep erroneously saying AMD leads the industry in APU graphics, when they know that isn't the case, but it probably just doesn't come to mind for the writers when covering the topic. This leads to a lot of the general public being misinformed. What Apple has done with embedded GPUs is almost wizardry, it is so far ahead of the competition. The CPU side always gets heavy coverage, despite x86 and Windows ARM chips catching up finally.
OK, been waiting for the MacMini.... can't say l’m too stoked about the shrinkage. The current design works, so why change it? By making the case smaller, it means that if you have (as I will) all ports with connected cables, I'm hoping that it will still be heavy enough to not want to move around on the desk if you plug/unplug a cable, or use the rumoured SD card slot for whatever reason. Also, for the Pro chip, I can't help but wonder as to the thermals of a smaller case. Will it throttle? Who knows.
Super excited to see what they do with the Mac mini (or Mac mini replacement). If we see it with a M4 with 16GB RAM at that same base price of $599 (which routinely gets discounted by retailers) it is going to be a huge hit.
One more thing is that m1, m2 and m3 all have the same IPC, the only improvements come from higher clocks. The m4 is the first time apple improves on their CPU architecture which makes a more effective improvement over time.
I have the first gen of M1 Pro on MBP 16 inch. I need two things for the next update. Face ID, and weight to be less for 16 inch variation. I know the performance will be so good no doubt about it.
Still on the MacBook Pro 13 with 4 thunderbolt ports and the Touch Bar with an intel i5 and 8GB of RAM, that upgrade could be quite good. But still unclear about how the 2nm 5M will perform next year in comparison to the M4 pro this year.
Cool video and I appreciate the architecture diagrams (I studied computer architecture in grad school).The M1 Pro MacBook Pro has more than the performance that I need and would only upgrade for more battery life or more RAM I have 32 GB of RAM and could use more, say about 48 GB. I don't know whether or not Apple will make an M4 Pro with a configuration that I want but I think that having 6 efficiency cores (my assumption) over the 2 that I have on my M1 Pro, would help. I also have an M1 Max Ultra and don't need an upgrade there but I will take a look at what they have to offer. I'm not expecting a new Studio until next Spring at the latest.
Simple: Apple probably put in faster memory. That has tendency to blow up results in synthetic benchmarks. Apple should have go to non-8GB ( 12?) in M3 already and 18 GB here, thus offering at least illusion of progress.
I could see the M4 just being an iPad and MacBook Air chip and the M4 Pro, Max and Ultra be in all the Pro level and up Macs. Cause for a majority of people the M4 and even older silicon chip are more than sufficient. IMO, the Pro level chips are for those folks that wanna push their Macs to the limit. I mean, me myself, my lone “computer” is a M1 iPad Pro.
You don't need to upgrade just because the new chip is stronger. The right question is that, did you ever felt that you can use a bit more performance, but your machine "only" capable to what you get? If you never thinked that a bit more performance would be nice, you don't even need to think about upgrade yet.
m4 is actually very similar to m3 in terms of power that high geekbench score is due to increased AI capability other than that its just 4-5% performance uplift. so it's safe to say its more power efficient and very slightly powerful compared to m3 in real world
I bought an M3 pro about 2 months ago. Nothing they could bring will make me want to upgrade, this laptop will be used until it is no longer functional
I think you are wrong about no significant GPU improvement. Yes, raw compute performance improvement is not going to be significant over the M3 family, but there is 2× the performance of ray racing for M4/A18.
I really want to see an extreme chip just for the Mac Pro, so it’s existence is justified. Paying $2000 more just for PCIe slots does not make much sense
It’s probably just a matter of time until Apple Intelligence is gonna be integrated in a “Pro” way in MacOS and there will probably be a cut for which M chips can use it. Until then my M1 Pro chip is plenty. Is fast and doesn’t slow down👌
I need a desktop machine not another MBP. I want a M4 max studio but don’t want to wait a year or buy an M2 ultra. Fingers crossed Apple - release a m4 max desktop asap.
The introduction of Apple Silicon says a lot about Apple's unwavering commitment to quality. Its competitors would rather choose off-the-shelf CPUs than incur the R&D expense and risk of developing a custom one, especially for the less computationally demanding consumer market. Apple Silicon changed the computing landscape forever. Intel, NVidia, and AMD no longer monopolize critical hardware components. Moreover, Microsoft and Google are now following Apple's lead by developing their own silicon in order to remain competitive.
I was gonna buy a new MacBook Pro but I’ll wait for the M4 even if it means lower resale value on the Intel 2020 MBP 13 I use from time to time (main computer is a Mid-2012 MacBook Pro that needs to be upgraded).
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="761">12:41</a> I have to hardly disagree with you on your last statement. Most people don't buy a new laptop every three to five years. I think most people buy a new laptop after five years minimum.
How fast of a performance do we need in computers operation to get a job done, i have a Mac mini with M1 chip and that thing does everything i can throw at it with no problem.
M4 is a bigger deal than you realize my ass, it's 22% faster instead of 17%? How are people falling for this marketing talk of "It will be a beast", 20% faster makes it a beast? Huh?
almost ferrari with max speed 1000km/h but where you can use :/ those cartoon games for kids ? :D .... why never say CPU ? apple silicon , silicon was invented by apple ? :D
I am sorry that people like you totally misunderstand inherent performance, which is misleading. Apple says that people keep iPads for around seven years, maybe longer, so having the best and fastest chip when released means it will still be relevant for years. You do not have to find a reason to use that performance now, but it means you still have a snappy, fast tablet in five years. I have the M1, and it makes the tablets released by Samsung in 2020/1 look bad.
@@ehtasam2080 Samsung using Dimensity for the Tab s10 and that chip was released in 2023. That is not a revolution compared to the M3. It is embarrassing but Samsung Tabs are use to it as their tablet are always 2-3 years behind in chip quality.
Depends on which app.. because for example the Gensin Impact is limited to 60fps on all platform except Apple devices, the M1 iPad got the 120fps settings when released and in the past 4 years no other devices got the 120fps possibility.. (PC should be also capable, but the 1000+W requirements for others compared to the 20W probably said no for the others)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st once you try GOW Ragnarok on 4K with 144FPS you cannot go back. I know I am running 600W with 4070 with every fan spinning like there is no tomorrow but... how can you go back to 14 inch screen... cos I have been there...
@@TamasKiss-yk4st 1000+w? I mean the 4090 only takes an 850w PSU, I guess more if you wanna overclock, but thats entirely unnecessary and strictly in the realm of enthusiasts. the 3060 is the most popular GPU and it takes a 550w PSU, something else you might not realize is it only consumes a lot of power while under load. I don't really understand your last sentence in parentheses though, it feels like an incomplete thought.
remember, m series devices are SOLDERED, it means if ANYTHING goes wrong your going to need soldering skills very TALANTED skills, DO NOT SUPPORT THESE ANTI REPAIR PRACTICES
