The MacBook Lineup is a TRAP! M3 MacBook Air vs MacBook Pro 

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That’s exactly my spec. so far a really nice laptop

@@Retlom Agreed!

@@RetlomI know I’m an outlier, I’m taller with larger hands so I appreciate the extra space available with the touch pad and palm rests of 15+ inch plus laptops. I have only ever owned a 13 inch MacBook Pro, will the 14 inch MacBook Pro feel too small for us taller people? Thanks for any input

For that same amount of money, I bought a mint used 14" M2 Max 12/38 32GB RAM 1TB SSD with a full two years left of AppleCare.

@@trekkeruss That’s a great deal!

Same but I dreamed of an 15 inch for a long time so finally got the m2 this week. Worthy upgrade but I'd say if ur happy stay happy because there's always shinier stuff

you will still be judged whether you like it or not. 😁😁😁😁

And you’ll get Apple Intelligence

Depends on what you use it man.. I do coding for my job and 8GB sucks tight pink butthole man! I once caught it nakedly doing 12gb swap and 7gb ram

I still use Macbook Air 2013, and I only needed to change battery, working 9 hours straight.

What Ram do you have? And is it enough?

I am in the exact same situation! How did you find the downgrade of the speakers and display? I hate having to upgradeto a new computer that has some specs that are just worse

@@GlitzvsVilma I don’t play audio from it tbh. I have my iPad for that. Sorry.

So that’s your only takeaway?

​@@kas4751 Yup that's the only thing left that they can whine about 😂

@@abhisheksingh-np8yi Which is very funny to me because I have the base spec M3 air for school work and work on the go, and honestly it does a great job. It does a lot of the tasks that I do on my m3 pro mbp that has 16 gb ram with a similar level of speed. Honestly the biggest difference for me is the screen (mini LED and 120 Hz vs LED and 60 Hz). I will say that if you're not privileged like me (because I'm aware that not many people have two laptops lol) and can only get one laptop and want to future proof it, I'd go for the 16 gb for sure. But I just want to say that I'm living life just fine on the 8 gb of ram. My previous work laptop was a windows laptop that had 8 gb of ram and 256 gb ssd just like this air and it worked great for almost 5 years

It really is. At their price, it should have 16gb period. Because of it, you get a very expensive device for basic tasks. RAM is NOT expensive ,Apple is just being greedy because it has this image of being"premium" on things that aren't even luxury products. I almost made the mistake of buying the MB air base model and thank god i didn't. Any light editing is really slow on it, it gets completely overshadowed by similar priced windows device. And i said light editing because the MB air is clearly not fit for heavy workload. But on a 1000-1200€ device, i should be able to use this for very light editing tasks without getting outperformed by Windows device.

It's a shame that PC manufacturers doesn't do the decent CPU, big battery models. I'd really like to try a mac out but paying that much only for battery life makes me think twice. That said, there aren't any viable laptops in the market that competes with macs on battery currently. I wish I could just run a base model thinkpad and slap a large battery on it like the old times.

Yup. I agree. Now with more AI-driven tasks being built into the OS, it seems like the RAM will be utilized more. 8GB will probably do the tasks, but it's going to slow things down I would imagine. Apple is such a mixed company for me. They make great stuff and have great ideas, but selling 8gb at all post-2018 is just... crazy.

Agree, I'm working with 16GB and the machine is allways in yellow in the memory pressure graph, and I've had some apps crashing. For any real work 8GB is just not an option and 16GB is barely cutting it in many instances.

As a programmer you use (or recommend) MacBook Air or MacBook Pro, especially, if you’re going to run virtual machines (Kali etc)

The price of an additional 8GB of RAM is exorbitant and unjustified.

That's $350 in Canada with taxes. What could I buy with that?

its more like at THIS PRICE it's criminal. You get 300-400 € PCs here with 8gb. You obviously use these models for very basic tasks like mail, a few tabs open.... At similar price, you get 16gb PC that can do more than the mac on anything except the battery life. At 16gb, the MBA just outperform pc with similar spec, but the price is just insane. Adding 8gb of ram souldn't cost 200€. And this is with a measly 256 gb SSB. Like, come on Apple you make enough money already....

@@ThomasAndy-qu8dp yes and no ... the 16gb mba/mbp use 7.5gb just to idle ... you're just killing your SERIALIZED SOLDERED SSD with the 8 gig version

No 8gb is definitely useable for many people. You just can’t go crazy with browser tabs using

@@MultiNakir In case you were unaware, macOS uses all the RAM it can when idling. My M2 Max Mac Studio w/ 32gbs of RAM uses 15gbs idling. My MBA w/ 8gb uses 5gb idling.

I still use 4 GB Macbook Air from 2013, and it's better than professional DELL from 2018. No issues with blue screen and other weird issues as Windows has.

It's a choice; you can order 16GB or 24GB if needed. 12GB will be the new M4 MB Air and Pro base. For the record, the base M3 MB Pro 14 is not a Pro device as it uses the base chip (i5 in Intel terms). The Pros are the M3 Pro or M3 Max chips, and they start at 18GB and 36GB, respectively.

to save them money lol

8GB is surprisingly pretty usable with apple silicon. why a “pro” machine has it though is questionable. for a few more hundred bucks from the MBA, you get a fan and a better display. it’s not really targeted at pros, just everyday casual users who have some extra money lying around

@@nathanhollow0 You mean make them more money. It's a $200 bump for the 16GB version.

@@baoboba Sure it's usable but does that mean it's reasonable. I am no power user but I noticed using both a 8GB and 16GB I would hit the max on the 8GB but hover 12GB on the 16GB with just some light tasks. And like Ella said you will be swamping memory which if I plan on keeping my macbook for ten years might means the SSD might crap out on me. Which you can't easily replace the SSD if it happens sooner.

if you run light work only why get the m3 in general? Maybe the m1 or m2 would have been cheaper and worked just as well?

@@asrp4284 perhaps they use a dual monitor set up, I think those are pretty common

@@asrp4284 feels good to buy the latest model.

Yes, swap uses disk RAM, which is usually DDR4. Only on occasions will swap trespass onto flash memory, so as you say, the swap issue is a misnomer. Many with an anti-Apple agenda push it out, and it is never supported-just scaremongering.

Even though that is true, same with my IT department, MacBooks were designed to last 10 years. Less than 5-6 years is still underperforming what they were designed to do. It's like a car with good maintenance can last 15 years, but you treat it bad and upgrade from it in 8 years.

@@akin242002 I'm not defending macs lack of upgrading. I'm not a fan at all I just wanted to give a time frame for reference. One thing people should keep in mind is mac os will use as much as 80% of your memory all the time reguardless of how much you have so if you have 16 gigs you may not be saving your drive because you could be using double the swap. I've seen this on my work m2 mac pro with 16 gigs and a 512 gig ssd and my work mac studio with 32 gigs and 1TB

@@akin242002 also I'm happy with 5-6 years with traditional hard drives I was on a 3 years refresh. Refresh cost has been cut in half over the last decade and because apple devices hold their valve I'm able to resell for not an insignificant amount of the purchase price after 4 years

@@technicallymeso true. I went with an 16 GB M3 MacBook Air and the OS uses up as much or more (percentage wise) as on my M1 with 8GBs.

I watched this on my phone no issues

Simp

The same with Intel and AMD. Welcome to a mature market where innovation is nominal, and updates are usually iterative. This year, Intel pushing Gen 14 with similar performance to the Gen 13 and the same dGPU choices. AMD ditto. So stop the anti-Apple rhetoric; this is the state of PCs.

Well college freshman and 18-year-olds getting off Chromebooks benefit the most. Their first adult laptop starts off amazing. Especially if they are willing to get a refurbished one from the previous year.

@akin242002 College freshmen don't have the cash for Apple products... Maybe they should save up for a car first.

@@lbeetechI’m the US and when I was in college over half my classmates would either take out loans or max their credit cards for a MacBook. Maybe it’s different in other countries where Apple isn’t as popular

@IceBlueLugia Sorry to hear that. Apple is a marketing company, their products aren't worth the price. I'm not saying that they aren't good, but they are overpriced. Thr only way to force their prices down is that people refuse to borrow money to buy Apple products.

I am currently using an M3 Air with low power mode always on, which is so impressive😭

Does low power mode still give you 120Hz display?

@@Sakuyushi Macbook air doesn't have 120 Hz screen anyways

@@Sakuyushi afaik it doesn't, on the M3 pro

@@MsSjaakvaak Thansk!

absolutely! 99% reviewers are just trying to help Apple to upSell their products. My office: 7 out of 9 developers are using MBA M1 and pretty happy with it (with 27inch external monitors).

I have a very similar set up to you except 14 inch mbp m3 pro instead of 16. My m3 air 15inch is base spec and my mbp has the 18 gigs ram 512 gb ssd. These computers are both excellent and in most cases I couldn't tell much of a difference between them tbh. Main difference is when gaming and/or doing a lot of heavy tasks at once -- no lag on the mbp, some lag on the mba. But you'd expect that. I had an 8gb ram 256 gb ssd windows laptop before this one and that one did just fine for 5 years, so I'm not surprised that this one works well too, and obviously better at that since it's more modern and comes from a brand notorious for good battery life and performance on battery. I think a lot of the people who get shocked at 8 gb of ram are gamers, because I used to be in that crowd of people who hated on Apple for it. But now that I've gotten to try it, I think I was wrong

@@justahugenerd1278 aye for sure, I do gaming but laptops are terrible for gaming so I usually will just use parsec to game on my home desktop computer (though i know different people have different situations where this may not work).. for an excellent gaming pc + macbook air basicially equals the cost of one macbook pro lol

true but i will prob still buy money isnt a problem for me

@@spooky416Best Buy selling the MacBook Pro M3 pro for 500 less.. I grabbed one.

MBP M3 Pro

8GB is not the standard; it is an option for a cheaper entry point. I have used an MB Pro 13 M1 base model for 3y9m, and still going great and no issues with 8GB for my workload. Just because you need more RAM does not mean the rest of the world does. My 80-year-old parents barely use 5GB of RAM on their Macs!

If you think 8 gigabytes of ram isn’t standard just assume that the M3 MacBook Air starts at $1300

Nah there’s rumour about m5 mac instead since we have iPad Pro with m4 chip

is there no LP mode on the m2?

Should be enough honestly. My 2015 max is still fast with 8Gb and latest os

your chrome eats a lot of ram btw

The problem is chrome. If you use safari you wont have that problem. Safari is far better optimised on mac.