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The Magic Formula vs. The Acquirer's Multiple | Joel Greenblatt vs. Tobias Carlisle 

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The battle of the quants! These are both great reads, so definitely check them out if you’re interested.
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Комментарии : 51   
@mrditto129
@mrditto129 2 года назад
As a novice investor, If you can make a video on how to calculate both of those formulas using info on Yahoo finance, that would be awesome. I find it a tad confusing finding info there. Although there's a screening website for those stocks, I'd like to learn to screen companies myself.
@franktaber
@franktaber 4 года назад
Great video Tom I’ve been waiting for the Tobias Carlisle content! Both great reads and I consider both strategies in my investments.
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
I enjoyed reading them both!
@finsimple4396
@finsimple4396 4 года назад
These guys are two of my favourite investors. Joel Greenblatt is superior in his experience and had one of the best runs in history. Tobias is yet to have his time imo, betting on the deep value comeback. I'm currently going through Greenblatt's class notes which are fantastic. Thoroughly enjoy Carlisle's podcast too.
@scottscriticalmass
@scottscriticalmass 4 года назад
You're one of the first, if not the FIRST, RU-vidr I've heard mention Enterprise Value as an important valuation measure. More important than 'market cap' in fact. I started following you the first time I heard you mention it. While it may not be popular today, focusing on enterprise value will serve you very well long term in your investments. I for one am staying the course, as I'm sure you are too. Thanks for the great book review Tom. I've long been a fan of Greenblatt, his books part of my permanent investment library, but for whatever reason have never read Carlisle's 'The Acquirer's Multiple'. I've already added to my Amazon cart. Cheers...
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
It’s not a super common term for whatever reason, but glad to hear you’ve picked it up too
@harshrajjadhav940
@harshrajjadhav940 4 года назад
Investing with Tom here in india it’s quite popular.
@hsinglu
@hsinglu 2 года назад
@@InvestingwithTom Thanks for the video. So it sounds like yourself do not invest based on magic formula or the acquirer ‘s multiples. Is that right? Also is the acquirer multiple for the US market or is it for the Australian market only?
@vinniejackson8327
@vinniejackson8327 4 года назад
Reading the comments I feel like I need to have investor/invest in my RU-vid name somehow
@DBrianAshby
@DBrianAshby 4 месяца назад
Value investing works but when the overall Market is expensive, that usually means the value stocks are likely not a value either.
@ims7865
@ims7865 3 года назад
So, by acquirer formula the lower the number the better? (EV/ EBITDA )
@bluegtturbo
@bluegtturbo 11 месяцев назад
Neither method has even matched the S&P500 since about 2010.
@BradKaellner
@BradKaellner 4 года назад
Awesome video Tom! Apple was also a top 30 magic formula stock not that long ago. I just downloaded The Acquirer's Multiple on Audible. Will you be setting up a test account to compare the results of these two quantitative approaches?
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
I haven’t set one up, no. Have you? Would be nice if Apple turned up in the again, but I think it’s probably miles away from making the screens now!
@ankurleonardo
@ankurleonardo 3 года назад
You just got a subscriber... Very good video. Always keep it crisp to the point like this. Thanks a ton.
@kent22441
@kent22441 4 года назад
Good review, loved both books. Love how Tobias has an ETF now, way easier then doing the magic formula manually.
@modestinvestor
@modestinvestor Год назад
Bit delayed, but this is fascinating, hope it's working out ok right now for you all 🤔
@vietnamstockmarket8350
@vietnamstockmarket8350 4 года назад
Good summary Tom of a couple of my favorite books / authors / investors. I also recommend these books. Even though the S&P500 is almost at all time highs again I think there is still good opportunities for investors applying some of the theories behind these books.
@AndrewBrownInvesting
@AndrewBrownInvesting 4 года назад
Good work mate, good summary of the books. I'm a finviz screen guy myself. Do you know anyone/any book that is looking at Net Net working capital companies?
@tradingmelon1470
@tradingmelon1470 4 года назад
First things I put into my spread market cap, shares outstanding, cash, net debt, Enterprise value and Free cash flow all very important
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
Absolutely
@springb0ks
@springb0ks Год назад
I am wondering what happens if we get an acquirer's multiple that is negative? Do we just remove these from our screen? Sometimes operating income is negative where the company does not turn a profit.
@malvanlondon8683
@malvanlondon8683 Год назад
Thanks for the great overview of these two books. The Magic Formula is a buy then sell (around a year later) method. Is the Acquirer's Multiple also buy and sell - or is it a buy and hold indefinitely strategy? And do you know of any other buy and hold strategies that do well where picking individual stocks are concerned?
@vidya014
@vidya014 Год назад
Mental Models: 1. “NetROCI (ROIC) & Net Income Growth are the Left and Right feet empowering each other in moving the Intrinsic Compounding.” ~ Total Reset ~ 2. “Dharmic Trīni-Karmāni Value Investing:达摩三业价值投资 意:The Voliation of the Stock Market is NetROCI. 话:The Speech of the Stock Market is Net Income Growth. 作:The Deed of the Stock Market is Intrinsic Compounding & Dividend Compounding.” ~ Total Reset ~
@aguitarcalledchutzpah
@aguitarcalledchutzpah 4 года назад
Hi Tom. Analysing companies can take a lot of time including using Phil Towns technique tho I must say Im still working on his premise and trying to effectively learn it. Would you say using Tobias' method is better and quicker?
@vvolfflovv
@vvolfflovv 4 года назад
The Acquirer's podcast is so good. It's funny, every time I look at who is holding shares of companies I am analyzing in gurufocus, I see Joel Greenblatt scooping them up. He seems to play the market like a game of Monopoly.
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
He does own a lot of stocks!
@jj5329
@jj5329 3 года назад
Does Joel Greenblatt actually go into detail about why he specifically picks earnings yield and ROIC for his Magic Formula? Basically, is it worth buying the book when I've watched this video?
@brenthumason9347
@brenthumason9347 3 года назад
Tom, I recently finished both books per you recommendation. I really liked them, and appreciated the order you recommended reading them. Could you please do a video on West Fraser Timber (WFG)? It is the company at the top of the list for the Acquirers Multiple.
@itisimpossibleto
@itisimpossibleto 3 года назад
Does anyone know how to see the historical companies chosen by the magic formula? (Not the just the most recent quarter on the website). It would be very helpful for my research.
@ManishThanki
@ManishThanki 4 года назад
Great video Tom. Any under valued on any Nz or Oz stocks? Why is the Nz stock exchange so flat? Will a Ardern victory be good for investors?
@qazqazqazqazgxdhdvds
@qazqazqazqazgxdhdvds 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing... Sure will buy both of them next month....
@seanbanayan7273
@seanbanayan7273 2 года назад
All your book recommendations has been great Tom. Will read these ones too. Cheers
@vinniejackson8327
@vinniejackson8327 4 года назад
Another great Video mate, always appreciate a good read :) keep em coming!
@xilllllix
@xilllllix 2 года назад
you explain things so well, thank you!
@Balance3rd
@Balance3rd Год назад
I thought it was EV/EBIT
@Parcian-
@Parcian- Год назад
Yep, me too. Do you know why he changed to EV/Ebitda from original Magic Formula?
@Balance3rd
@Balance3rd Год назад
@@Parcian- no why
@M.-.D
@M.-.D 4 года назад
The titans! Tobias would be an old school Graham. Very well read across the investing literature but engaged from a business perspective too. Thanks for the video, Tom. Loved it!!!
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching
@alexinvests
@alexinvests 4 года назад
Thanks for discussing this. Never really looked deep into The Magic Formula or The Acquirers Multiple. I will definitely look into it. Thanks for the video!
@volker-meier
@volker-meier 4 года назад
Great video. Thanks!
@sheanathan3566
@sheanathan3566 2 года назад
Nice accessible review Thanks
@Neil.Denize
@Neil.Denize 4 года назад
Great video mate, I have not read either book, but they are going on list.
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
Glad to hear!
@SurajTiwari_5
@SurajTiwari_5 3 года назад
You rock🤘
@lorenac1990
@lorenac1990 4 года назад
When will we see the powerlifting with Tom channel?
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
It’s out there if you can find it! Haha
@lorenac1990
@lorenac1990 4 года назад
@@InvestingwithTom I think I found ya. Haha
@InvestingwithTom
@InvestingwithTom 4 года назад
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